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So there's been talk about Jackie 4chan possibly lifting the 18+ rule on some boards, and its a well known fact that /vp/ has the youngest userbase on this site.

This survey was created to give a rough idea of the demographic age of this board to determine whether the decision should be to keep it 18+, change to 16+ or to remove age restrictions altogether. Remember to answer truthfully as this is anonymous and may affect the future of this board.

So /vp/, how old are you?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10087785
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>>26117503
>So there's been talk about Jackie 4chan possibly lifting the 18+ rule on some boards
I heard about this too, curious to see the results
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Honestly, the only thing keeping me here is inertia at this point. Things have been circling the drain for awhile now and I can see the writing on the wall. Maybe it's time I shuffled on and found a new anonymous safe haven.
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I don't think it would change anything. No 15 year old who wanted to post would be deterred by the 18+ warning
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>>26117503
>and its a well known fact that /vp/ has the youngest userbase on this site
I can believe it especially lately with the leak posters, but I assumed I'd be a board more well know and accessible for children to shitpost in like /b/ or /v/ or even /pol/
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>>26117503
It's more the rule being enforced properly on an anonymous imageboard that is the problem.
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>>26117755
>I can believe it especially lately with the leak posters
And avatarfags. Don't forget avatarfags. Like your bitch ass, for example.
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>>26117805
I just have a lot of Black reaction images, no need to get mad anon.
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>>26117755
It's actually confirmed, according to site tracking, we're about 75% underage.
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>>26117829
>believing stats whenever anyone can lie

For what reason?
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Keeping Pokemon safe for the young 'uns is probably a very good idea. I know it sounds very Moral Guardianish, but no kid should have to run into the more bizarre stuff that shows up here, especially if they are the sort that doesn't know such things exist yet.

On the other hand, at this very moment I can go find a post asking about what would happen if you jizzed on a Glaceon, so honestly not much would change. Do what you gotta do.
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>>26117834
>Keeping Pokemon safe for the young 'uns is probably a very good idea
Do you not realise that it is possible to NOT enter an 18+ website?
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>>26117834
>but no kid should have to run into the more bizarre stuff that shows up here, especially if they are the sort that doesn't know such things exist yet.
Are you serious? This is the kind of place where they should be learning about this stuff in the first place.
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Uh... we got a 14 year old in here I kinda feel like I should watch what I say on this board now...
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>>26117889
>Believing in a poll where anyone can make-up their age.

Okay, Anon.
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>2 people under 13 on this board RIGHT NOW

Time to tone shit down for the young'uns. though they could be joking
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>>26117889
I'm ok with 14 year olds being here. After all, we were all 14 when we found 4chan, weren't we?
The only problem is that 4chan doesn't have the kind of atmosphere that makes 14 year old faggots grow into non-faggots anymore. They'll just become faggier.
But oh well, I gave up on 4chan long ago, I get my anonymous memeboard dose from other places these days and I'm only here to funpost.
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>>26117889
>>26117909
>catering for children on an website for adults
You should bring up this point at your local strip club anon
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Age is just a number.
Mine just happens to higher than most of you little shits.
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>>26117503
It's not like anything would change. Age restriction has never actually prevented anyone from coming here. I knew children as young as 14 who visited /vp/ back when I was still posting on Pokemon forums. And if making the board 16+ means posting pokelewds becomes a banable offence than I'm all for it.

Also, pic related.
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>>26117853
Yes, but it is also possible to inadvertently end up here. Someone randomly looking for pokemon stuff on the internet has a reasonable chance of stumbling their way here after following a link or two.
Imagine, for instance, that someone wandering around the internet saw something about this "Roothoot" business that has been storming for the past few days, and followed a source or two back here. Lo and behold, the 18+ rule has been lifted and they quickly make new discoveries in the field of human-pokemon relations.

It isn't an everyday occurrence, of course. And I'm not the sort to suggest all the more questionable content be cleaned up either. A good pantyshot or breasted Braixen has never hurt anyone. But at the very least keep the most explicit stuff stashed elsewhere in that uncommon case that someone follows the Pokemon here and ends up with more than they bargained for. The adults here can go track down their own Pokeporn just fine. Maybe someone unwittingly finds something like this elsewhere, but at least it wouldn't be on this site's hands.
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>>26117959
Fuck that shit, it scares them off instead of inviting them in and leads to a more quality board overall.
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>>26117921
most sensible thing ever said on 4chan
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>>26117921
>After all, we were all 14 when we found 4chan, weren't we?
No. You were and probably still are cancer to this board. Delete all your current posts and don't post ever again
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OP here. None of the OP was true, I just wanted to see whether the cancer and cringe on this board was caused by an influx of kids or just embarrassing excuses for adults. Seems like about a fifth of this board is underage which doesn't add up with the 90:10 cancer to quality ratio of this board, so it looks like the problem is more of a mix of both kids and retards rather than just kids like I thought and kind of hoped.

Oh well. In conclusion, you're all embarrassing losers and no one irl will ever take you seriously. Stop posting.
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>>26118404
have you considered 90% of shitposts are perpetrated by 5% of users.
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>>26118412
Yeah but its not likely, otherwise there'd be certain parts of the day with less shitposting since 5% of people wouldn't be here 24/7. What's more likely is that reddit/tumblr/facebook/9gag tourists come in and see all the shitposting and think "lol this is my kind of place" and join in. Then they tell all their shitty e-friends about this hilarious new pokememe website they found that has the "same humour" as them. The more they flood in, the more tourists take up the board and eventually the result becomes what you see today.
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>>26117503
I feel like changing the age restriction does nothing, because people can be way underage and still post here.

However, I feel like 4chan as a whole would benefit from being entirely NSFW. I mean, it kind of baffles me that each and every board isn't red already. It might help deter the normalfags that infest this place.
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>>26118463
It's probably some stupid logic like "Oh every thread would be porn and no discussion would happen," as if there was any discussion in the first place.
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>>26118463
>>26118476
Not everyone on here is a degenerate desperate to see drawings of pussy in literally every thread. Most people want to actually discuss things other than which chinese cartoon girl they like to pretend is real the most
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>>26118487
>/pol/tard
You realize almost nothing would change in the long run, right? Yeah at first there would be porn spammed everywhere, but it would quickly settle down into its own threads and the regular shitposting would continue business as usual. All it really means is the occasional porn reaction image and a few more threads for your sensitive eyes to hide.
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>>26118463
If you browse 4chan in front of your family, you deserve the humiliation.
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>>26118510
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
I don't even like /pol/

>You realize almost nothing would change in the long run, right? Yeah at first there would be porn spammed everywhere, but it would quickly settle down into its own threads and the regular shitposting would continue business as usual.
You mean the same way it happened to /gif/ and /r/? Both of those boards started as sfw, but once they became nsfw they had to make new sfw versions of those boards because they literally just became nonstop flooded with porn. Making all boards nsfw would the be the final nail in the coffin for this site
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>>26118549
You're weird if you think 4chan is suitable enough to view in front of your work or school. Maybe this isn't the place for you, kid.
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>>26117928
This
>>26117889
Kill yourself or get out, I don't care.
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>>26118487
Tell that to the anime general
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>>26118579
I don't think he means NSFW as in actually ok to view at work, just moderated as a blue board to rein in people rather that being just another porn dispenser with a pokemon focus.
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>>26117815
Avatar fags are subhuman scum on the level of furfags.
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>>26117503
Does it matter? Of course it doesn't. This is a children's board regardless of if the rules say it is or not.
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>>26118487
>people want to actually discuss things

No you don't, you just want to e-bully everything everyone else says.
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>>26118846
>4chan is one person
The reason you get "e-bullied" so much is because youre fucking stupid, anon. People would irl bully you too if they thought they could get away with it, but because people arent anonymous irl they just say it in their head. Stop being stupid and maybe you can join in when grown up try to have a conversation
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>>26117503
>Implying the rule stopped children in the first place
Who here is ready for summer?
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>>26119013
I'm sorry you feel that way, because I can tell you that there are people that are decent without needing society to tell them to be so. Here, there is nothing but arguing for the sake of arguing. I may not believe in altruism, but I also do not believe the only recourse is to let the people who do nothing but disrupt things run rampant. That is what this site has become. No one can be happy because no matter what, mayhem ensues. And by the way, yes, 4chan IS one mind when all that I've seen here has been nothing but what I would describe as childish behavior. You wanna bully me? Go ahead, I am not afraid of you. I push back.
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>>26119477
>And by the way, yes, 4chan IS one mind
This is the basis of your entire argument and its just not true. People wouldn't argue about things if it was all one mind so your argument doesn't even make sense. You should learn to think about things before you say them out loud, then people probably won't bully you so much.

Also
>You wanna bully me? Go ahead, I am not afraid of you. I push back.
is cringy as fuck
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Reminder all those babbies below 25 didn't even experience pokeboom in all its glory. Sad desu
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>>26119564
I'm 21 and yes I did
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>>26117909
I voted Under 13 for shits and giggles. /vp/ has become pretty shitty, so why not pook people out even more?
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I was like 14 when I first came here, the babbies are fine. Anybody who wants to visit the site will visit anyway there's nothing stopping them.
The alternative sites are all terrible, let them come here. Every other Pokemon board has bias or even more autism than us.
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>>26119499
I'm sorry, but no amount of dancing around will ever justify treating people like garbage to me. I'm doing the same thing? Maybe so, but I won't make like my opinion is the only thing that exists. I doubt many here will say the same. You might say it's pointless for me to reason with those that outright refuse it. Good point, but if you claim to be reasonable, then this argument wouldn't exist either. There is a point to the matter that you can't both, too.

I do not expect arguments themselves to not exist. What I do expect, though, is to at least be allowed to say my peace on it. Here, you will be ousted simply by saying anything differently, and you are not allowed to be anything but what "board culture" says you MUST be. Wasn't the entire reason this was made was to BREAK the expectations of society? To be able to speak freely without someone telling you you can't do that? Instead, you ended up doing the same. It's human nature, I suppose. I could've equally insisted on plugging my manner of thinking, but I can't even pretend to be that petty. (I would've been well justified in doing so, though)

So what is to be done here? This is precisely why I think majority rule does not work. You end up with someone that has been silenced and dissatisfied. If you want to allow anything, then allow anything and stop telling people they can't. I don't care if a lot of people don't like it, that is why this particular board came into existence, is it not? Nobody else wanted to deal with us, so here we are. People cry on and on about being triggered. The same question always occurs: Why are you here if you don't like it? True, I don't have to come here at all if I don't like how it's handled. Still, it claims to be something else that it can't live up to. How far is too far, though? No one really has an answer, but it is plain that not everyone is satisfied by the situation, and to pretend it's fine is also a mistake.
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>>26117921

I was like 15 when I first discovered 4chan, but I feel like I'm alone in that I lurked for three years straight until I was actually 18 before posting for the first time.
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>>26119790
I would speak my mind anyway, but the mods themselves seem to insist on pushing their own agenda. Frankly, it seems to me as if this site was never conducive for what I seek. If that is how it is, then so be it. At least /b/ is advertised as being total fiction, this place was not.
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>>26119790
>>26119838
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>26117503
What's up with strawpoll these days not showing the options with the highest votes on top? Did they seriously fuck up something that simple?
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>Removing the 18+ rule
Mo, if anything it needs to be me enforced more (although the problem of this rule is being able to determine if a person is under 18 as it's an anonymous imageboard).

>>26119564
>under 25
I'm 23 and I did, though it basically died around the time of Johto.

>>26118463
>Every board should be NSFW
Why would I want /biz/ to be NSFW? Blue boards are fine, and it removal of them would likely encourage even more people to post porn outside of the current boards designated to porn and the like.
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4chan's death knell.
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What we have is a Last Crusade problem. You say you want to talk, but then, you can't think of anything. Or do you believe that you can't speak of it? There's only a couple things I can think of off the top of my head that the mods will shut down even if nobody really finds a problem with it (as long as it's contained).

1. Furry discussion. Underline discussion. Porn is outright not allowed.

2. RP threads. Apparently, they even hate you if you comment in them.

The other thing that I would say is more a common trait of the people here, and that can vary at times. That being personal interpretation of the pokemon world, particularly if it defies the main series' portrayal. (even if nothing else official follows it at all)
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>>26119564
21, Very much did, started with gen 1 and everything.
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>>26117503
>15% of /vp/ is apparently too young to post on 4chan.
I honestly expected more.
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>>26119790
>peace
Is this pasta?
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>>26121547
All these people who didn't exist when the original games came out. I find it very hard to believe.
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>>26117829
I don't really believe that
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>>26121565
Me too. Some of the votes are probably not honest.
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>>26117503
I mean I kinda get how the blue boards don't really need to be 18+, but I don't want to know how bad this place will be if we openly allow people under 18.
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>>26118463
There's a reason not every board is NSFW. There are people on here that aren't sexually repressed teens who want their porn everywhere.
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>>26119830
I've been posting since I was 14. I'm 22 now.
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>>26120280
>letting underages who are already on here say that they're underage and not get banned for it will kill 4chan
How dumb are you
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>>26122278
But you can't even be lewd, and expecting adults to not be lewd is insanity.
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>>26122369
Because there's no NSFW boards, amirite? Fuck off kid. You're clearly not an adult.
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>>26118722
You know, funnily enough that really falls more to the Pokegirl threads more so than the anime general.
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>>26119830
Nah I also waited until I was 18
Now im 20
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>>26121565
>>26122100

That's what I said above. People are probably lying on the poll.

>>26119790
Everything about this post reminds me of true autism.

> say my peace

You mean piece.
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