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So when does this get good? 80 episodes in and it's just
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So when does this get good? 80 episodes in and it's just so fucking BLAND.

The last series I watched in its entirety was DP, years ago. I watched the first 30 or so episodes of BW, but stopped due to personal stuff. I heard it became shit, so I jumped straight into XY, since everyone said it was superb compared to everything else. But holy shit, everything feels so fucking lifeless and uninteresting.

The animation and battles are great, that's for sure, and the Mega Evolutions specials were some of the best episodes I've seen in the whole show, but I simply can't get into the main series. Even the BW saga who everyone hates didn't leave so bored when watching, probably because it tried some new things in the beginning.

I'm trying to keep going to at least see if it improves in XY&Z, but so far I'm not impressed and it's just frustrating. It's like I'm failing to see something that makes it so good to other people.

tl;dr - Does this actually get good or do people only like it because the main girl canonically wants Ash's dick?
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>>26026834
>thinking the ashnime ever gets good
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>>26026834

It is pretty bland. Gets better in XYZ, aside from some fillers like the Quilladin episode. You're not too far so you might as well finish.
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>>26026834
Sub or dub?
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>>26026847
>Alan Wake
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Go back to your general you autist
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Only shipfags like it. And there's a lot of them here, sadly. I think the anime is "okay" no matter what saga its in. It's always fun to binge-watch. But I just can't wait until Serena fucks off so everyone can stop overrating it.
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>>26026855
That's good to know. I'll keep watching it then, it doesn't hurt to try.

>>26026859
Read the filename, anon.
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>80 episodes in

This is a joke right
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the braixen is hotter than any of the so called "waifus" ever will be
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Most of the people who like it are retarded amourshippingfags.

I agree that the show itself is rather boring. The characters are so fucking stale they as well be cardboard cutouts.
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>>26026930
This tbqh family

Even if Ash is admittingly very competent right now, his personality just seems more boring outside battle than before. Serena is just boring in general.

I like Citron though.
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>>26026862
>Super Duper Sumos
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>>26027070
>kancolle
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>OP didn't like the Clemont v. Ash episode

XYZ is better though.
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>>26027104
>Osomatsu-san
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>>26026834
>80 episodes in
>Ash vs. Korrina
>Ash vs. Clemont
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>>26027191
>Disappearance of Yuki
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>>26027153
>>26027200
>listing battle episodes
>when the OP says the animation and battles were the show's only saving graces
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>>26027239
Listing them again because OP seems to miss part of what made them what they were which wasn't just the animation.
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>>26026886
I started watching it almost two months ago, so with just one or two episodes a day it didn't feel tiring.

>>26027257
>OP didn't like the Clemont v. Ash episode
But I never said that.
>>26027153
Again, I never said I only liked the animation. I liked the battles themselves.

I just didn't see them as something as amazing as you probably think they were. I suspect that was because I'm not really invested in any character besides maybe Bonnie.
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>>26027209
>fire emblem
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You're watching an anime aimed at kids and expecting it to be good?
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>>26026834
Is there an edit of this with an assortment of dildos?
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Meh, i liked sometimes the filler, it was funny
Maybe it isnt for you, you probably like memes so...

Really liked the haunted house episode
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>>26027680
Fuck off, mewtist
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the fact that people keep listing the same two
>muh clemont
>muh korrina

episodes over and over again is evidence that it's shit.
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People just like it because Ash is at least somewhat competent and there's actually an animation budget
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>>26027978
his competency peaked in Hoenn and it's been the same since then except for BW. He's still the same retarded kid who can't explain things properly or clue in on TR's scams in XY.
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>>26026834
So basically, if I wanted to just jump in now, I should watch the Mega Evo specials, the gym battles, and then just move on to xyz?
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>>26026834
>or do people only like it because the main girl canonically wants Ash's dick

That's the impression I'm getting. I feel the same way you do, so I tend to pick and choose episodes based on whether or not there's likely to be anything I want to see in them. For instance I watch the idol episodes because the background idols are hot.
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>>26027394
>Dat Trails and Estelle pic

BEST TASTE
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>>26026834
The anime stopped being good as soon as best girl left and the original creator Shudo got BTFO.

It is absolutely worthless to watch now; people are only excited about this season cause of the waifufaggotry and thinking Amour might possibly hint to Ash finally winning the league and getting replaced next season. (Which will never happen cause no more Shudo, they're just falling for the bait.)
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>>26026834
Anon, I'm sorry to say, and I normally don't like using this word in this way, but you fell for the "XY is good, you should watch it!" meme. My condolences for the ~26 hours you wasted on it.
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>>26026834
It's not worth watching at all. Ash is such a Mary Sue this time around in the anime. It's like the writers acknowledged the criticisms about Best Wishes, but went way too overboard and instead of making Ash look like an incompetent jackass, gave him a bunch of overpowered Pokémon and make him hardly lose any battles while everyone just sucks his dick. His "rivals" are a complete joke, and Serena has been one of the worst companions for him. If Misty was still around, she would at least give Ash a backbone and not just blindly worship the ground he walks on. Bonnie is one of the most worthless characters in the show and only serves as filler material. You could take her out of the show and absolutely nothing would change.

tl;dr: Ash is too perfect in the XY saga and has no noticeable flaws. The travelling companions suck ass as well.
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>>26028648
XYZ happens just right after the megaevo specials. Just watch the 4 specials and jump to XYZ.
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>>26028910
I agree with everything you said except the Bonnie being worthless part. Bonnie episodes are typically the only good ones because they tackle adult themes in an often feelsy way.
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>>26026834
I like watching XYZ just to see how the zygarde/alan/mega story ends up
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>>26027394
>Nekopara
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>>26028891
GTFO gennwunner
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>>26028935
>Not being a "genwunner" when it comes to the Ashime
>Applying game terminology fandom terms to the anime

No u~
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>>26028910
Serena doesn't worship Ash
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>>26028910
I like the way you think ma nigga and this is exactly the reason why Pokeshipping will always be best ship and Amour is nothing but a soulless husk of a ship in comparison designed to only appeal to the manchild crowd who can't handle a woman that doesn't fully submit to them cause they know they can't get a girl any other way
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>>26028946
>A-Ash sempai p-pls notice me~!
>"He's my inspiration, he's just so inspiring!"
>Literally goes on her journey after seeing him arrive in Kalos just to stalk him

Its fucking NaruHina all over again
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>>26028957
>unsourced quotes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGDpuxuBByE
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>>26028944
ANIME GENWUNNERS ARE GENWUNNERS!
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>>26028957
Literally the only good thing about Serena is that her quest introduced us to qts like this. Aside from that she's a completely useless excuse for a character. All she does is fawn over Ash like a fucking beta whore and give him more praise despite him already getting it from all his supposed 'rivals'.
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>>26028971
No, Genwunners are retarded autists who say shit like "I ONLY ACCEPT THE ORIGINAL 151 POKEMON AS BEING REAL TWUE POKEMANZ~"! not anything else.
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>>26028980
Its because the neckbeards wouldn't be able to handle another girl like Misty who would dare criticize their precious self-insert and thus offend their "feels." They know they wouldn't be able to get a girl any other way then her being a pleasing robot with no mind of her own who exists just to suck their dick.

Girls like Misty who have actual personality and opinions threaten them.
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Well at least Serena actually did something, unlike Misty who did absolutely nothing in Johto!
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>>26028998
She didn't do anything in Kanto either.

I'm sensing some of these replies being done by that one sperg from /a/ that does the whole Misty shtick.
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>>26029009
>>26028998
Misty, at least in Kanto had the who tsundere thing going, and she gave Ash shit, just like Iris. The difference between Misty and Iris is that Ash gave Misty just as much shit back which made for good character interaction, unlike Iris where he just took it like an omega faggot.
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>>26029014
Tsun rather than tsundere. She gave shit to everyone.
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>>26028998
>>26029009
>Misty not doing anything

What is learning how to be a competent Water trainer and eventually stopped running away from her responsibilities and stepped up to the plate as the Cerulean Gym Leader?
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I couldn't give less shit about Serena and Ash.

I'm here for good battles, Flare subplot, gay subtext, Bonnie and intense hatred for Serena's subplot.

But then, I enjoyed BW until Plasma got butchered so I'm easy to please.
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>>26029024
Yeah but Ash more often then not deserved all those callouts she did on him back in the OS, he was a whiny, egotistical spoiled little bitch and most of the time she was actually in the right, albeit I admit she could've handled things a bit more gentle, but she's just not a gentle person overall (when it comes to people anyways) so it wasn't in her nature.
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>>26029026
>What is learning how to be a competent Water trainer and eventually stopped running away from her responsibilities and stepped up to the plate as the Cerulean Gym Leader?
Nothing she actually did until her very last episode when they made her go back because she sure hardly did anything about being a water trainer, let alone a competent one.
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>>26029033
That's also kind of it, she'd still do it in Johto when Ash essentially stopped doing as such.

Hell, by the the time Kanto ended after the league she still did it but Ash had pretty much stopped being any of that.
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>>26028929
>Gravity Falls
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>>26029014
that's why Iris is better than Misty.
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>>26026834
You fell for the amine is now good meme. The show is garbage, Ash is more retarded and predictable than ever and everyone is lifeless and "nothing bad is happening or will ever happen " levels of ignorance. I can't stand how irresponsible and stupid the main character is after they flanderized his traits and made it the only character.
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>>26029030
>gay subtext

WTF!? THIS IS POKEMON! NOT YAOI!
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>>26029037
>What was the Whirpool arc?
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>>26029063
Showing how shitty Misty was training water Pokemon.

Don't you get tired of spamming /a/, /vp/, and other boards?
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>>26029063
The only good part of Johto.
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>>26029051
Not really, by Johto she had mellowed out quite a lot; so much so that was it seemed like she was actually invisible like Brock in DP more often then not.
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>>26029073
>Only good part of Johto
>Not the league and Ash's epic facedown with Gary
>Not the emotional goodbye episode with Misty
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>>26029079
She was still doing stuff like that in early Johto. Once early-mid Johto hit she mellowed out.
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>>26029081
>Not the league and Ash's epic facedown with Gary
To be fair that was pretty good. Misty's goodbye wasn't as hype since she had been useless for 95% of Johto.
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>>26029092
Misty's goodbye wasn't even a Misty goodbye but a group separation. Then 4kids jazzes it up as Misty's goodbye.
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>>26028957
>Naruhina

NaruSaku got BTFO just like Pfokeshipping will by Amour, its time to accept and let it go anon.
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>>26027986
but Ash is better in XY?
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>>26029054
>Battlefront
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>>26029102
If by better you mean he turned into a lifeless Gary-Stu who can do absolutely NO wrong and had the personality sucked out of him, then yeah ok.
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>>26027968
People are listing those because OP talks about battles.

Bonnie episodes with her and Pokemon, some of the Serena episodes. Then there's Viola's gym battle.
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>>26029126
I don't know how I confused Viola with Olympia.
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>>26029111
well yeah, once you have a character who has already gone through years of development that tends to happen
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>>26026834
XY is the worst saga of the anime by far. Ash is now a soulless Gary Stu with all of the personality sucked out of him. He can do absolutely NO wrong and everyone just loves to suck his dick. Serena, in particular, was only created to be mindless waifubait and make suckers fall for the amourshipping meme, praising Ash at any opportunity she could because he's just so amazing and perfect, right? Bonnie is a worthless character who only exists to star in pointless filler episodes. His "rivals" are absolute jokes and, once again, just love to suck up to Ash. He also has a bunch of Smogon-approved Pokémon for his Kalos team because reasons. Sure. The anime wasn't enjoyable when Ash was an incompetent moron, but it's not enjoyable when he's a flawless robot with no faults either.
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>>26029199
Nice copypasta.
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>>26026834
Did you not like the Bonnie episodes? Those are always fun/heartbreaking. (>tfw she will never get a Tyrunt)
The whole Ash Greninja thing is interesting as of now, but they barely touch upon it for a good while after it's introduced.
And did you really not like that pic's episode about Braxien's stick? It was certainly one of the more interesting ones. Looks to me like you're expectations are more in line of what the previous seasons have accomplished, and how XY fails to reach them. Try just watching it as a time waster, nothing is ever fun if you're forcing yourself to watch it.
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>>26029109
>Robo Cop
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>all those anons that fell for the bait
You'd think people would actually drop a show BEFORE reaching 80 episodes if they found it SO boring.
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>>26026834
>falling for /padt/ memes
thanks for the laugh m80
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>>26029604
You would be surprised. It's like people who play an overhyped video game for dozens of hours in hopes it will eventually get better I should know, I was a victim of this mindset way to many times
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>>26029109
>the old republic :^)
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>>26028997
>another girl like Misty who would dare criticize their precious self-insert and thus offend their "feels."
So Iris?
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>>26029894
>Overwatch
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>>26031180
>league of legends
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>>26026834
The anime is terrible. It hasn't been good since the early 2000s, and even then you need to watch it with rose-tinted nostalgia goggles.

The only people who defend XY are amourshippers. If you have half a brain, you'll stop now and watch anything else
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>>26031221
It's fun. Fuck off.
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>>26026834
That episode was so shit.
>boring cotd
>forced conflict
>the James reveal wasntneven important/she never realized it even though he changed right in front of them
>the group literally disappears
>boring/no music
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>>26029604
I've done shit like this before to spite people who won't stop recommending a thing to me after I say I'm not interested. Probably not 80 episodes of anime, but games of about that length definitely.
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>>26029604
>start watching expecting something good
>it wasn't as good as it looked
>preview for the next episodes look awesome
>keep watching
>it wasn't as good as it looked
>preview for the next episodes look awesome
>rinse and repeat
I've done that more times than I'd like to admit.
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