/vp/ will deny this just for the sake of being contrarian
>>26025570
How the fuck is feraligatr supposed to be a knuckle duster?
I never realized how much Gen 6 starters suck
>>26025570
Not feeling Venusaur (might just be a poor comparison picture) or Feraligatr or Swampert
Swampert is some nip fan?
>>26025570
There's a flaw.
Serperior is a snek. What is also in the Chinese zodiac? Hmm anon? HMM ANON?
The water type starters are animals that are both on land and in water, dumbus.
Turtle
Aligator
Mudskipper
Penguin
Otter
Frog
>>26025594
>doesn't know about fans of death
>>26025570
Okay what does these two have to do with each other?
>>26025570
Venusaur is a toadlike monster, not a synapsid.
Feraligatr doesn't have anything resembling brass knuckles.
Typhlosion is a badger/bear thing, not a rat.
>>26025624
Mouse Pokemon
Chinese use the same word for mouse and rat
>>26025624
>venuSAUR
>not a dinosaur
Ok senpai
>>26025570
I want to believe in the "zodiac" theory, but i always feel that it is a bit of a stretch.
The grass and water types theories are stupid.
>>26025624
>Toad
>Amphibians
>Permian period
>>26025633
And blastoise is a shellfish
>>26025633
Proof
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/Zodiac/RatOrMouse.htm
Is it Rat or Mouse?
The Chinese word 鼠 can refer to either rat or mouse - there are no distinctive words for them. The illustrations in the Chinese Zodiac scripts depicted a common look of the two, or some look more like rat and others more like mouse. So the English translation “Rat” or “Mouse” is fine either way as both are common unisex nouns. We use “Rat” on this site because it has been widely used for Chinese Zodiac.
>>26025624
>Typhlosion is a badger/bear thing
Proof?
>>26025570
Where were you when OP was flawed as always?
>>26025570
The other thread touting the forced Water pattern said Swampert was torpedo. You guys can't even agree with each other about what you want to pretend it is.
>>26025570
>forcing the zodiac meme THIS hard
>>26025633
Yeah but typhlosion is not a rat, nor mouse. It is a fucking badger.
>>26025653
Fucking looking at it
>>26025653
Where is my proof of Serperior not being a snake and feraligatr have anything in common with brass knuckles, also a prehistoric walking plant or giant toad?
>>26025587
better than V, but yeah
>>26025676
I see a giant yellow rat.
>>26025570
Delphox isn't a dog. It's a fucking FOX.
>>26025653
Fox = dog,
New meme.
>>26025636
it's not called that in any other language. english translators kinda suck
>>26025692
You see your mother as your future wife too.
Sicko, learn animal anatomy.
Do you also believe cats are dogs? Or birds are fish? For fucks sake anon, go to /an/
>>26025570
Ahh OP being the incorrect faggot as always. Nice dog = fox meme, really liking it.
>>26025695
the difference between dog and fox in the Chinese pictograms is that the fox has 1 extra square...
>typhlosion
>a rat/mouse
It's clearly a yellow human.
>>26025692
I see a short yellow human.
Water starters are based on semi aquatic animals, the whole weapon thing is a HUGE stretch.
>>26025676
Then blaziken is a man with pants with your logic. Just look at it.
>>26025636
Its Japanese name is literally just "Mysterious Flower." -saur was added to make it slightly more appealing to Burgerclaps.
>>26025570
No, we deny it because it's fucking stupid.
/thread
>>26025727
Well it's certainly not a Zodiac rooster.
>>26025668
Cyndaquil is the "fire _____ pokemon"
Why dont you look it up?
>>26025739
Blastoise is a shellfish
>>26025709
With that logic, it doesn't matter how many dots there are it is exactly the same.
You just litterally said the zodiac system is shit and doesn't work.
>>26025709
>Oh boy, the pictograms are similar! That MUST mean they're the same thing!
Listen to yourself.
>>26025739
Yeah why don't you look it up retard?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Typhlosion_(Pokémon)
It is a really nice looking volcano ehh faggot?
>>26025570
The pattern for the water types is that they're all invertebrates.
>Blastoise
Shellfish
>Feraligatr
Coral on its back
>Swampert
Swamp plants
>Empoleon
Shrimp/krill
>Samurott
Clams and other shellfish
>Greninja
Based on Nincada and Accelgor
>>26025570
>dat Typhlosion (an echidna/hedgehog that turns into two mustelids)
>dat Feraligatr (a crocodile that in no way shape or form resembles knuckle dusters at all)
>dat Venusaur (that doesn't even come close to resembling whatever that thing is)
>g-gotta make up patterns!
>>26025769
I love parodies.
>>26025707
>a gecko can be a raptor and a turtle can be an ankylosaurus, but a fox can't be a dog!
Why'd you focus on the fox you furry
>>26025767
He was talking about Cyndaquil, who IS called the "Fire Mouse Pokémon", but nobody knows why since it is not a mouse or a rodent.
>>26025752
>>26025751
>this denial
>>26025785
Exactly my point. Dont read the dex entries and say they are what they are. Cause honestly typhlosion which is in the op. And NOT cyndaquil, doesn't look like a fucking volcano to me.
>>26025791
>thinks Japanese is the same as Chinese
kek. I bet you call Pakis Asians, too.
>>26025570
By this logic Ted Cruz is next Fire type starter.
>>26025801
>it's about the Chinese Zodiac
desperation
>>26025668
>>26025676
Have you considered that GF is loosely interpreting the zodiac? Just like they loosely interpret other mythologies and influences.
The only way zodiac theory could get disproven outright is if they make a starter off of something clearly outside of the zodiac like an arthropod or an animal that was already represented, like another bird or dragon.
>>26025803
He evolved and is now a #CruzMissile.
>>26025791
Still not the same signs fucktard.
>>26025778
I hate furries , scalefuckers.
I am sorry I didn't mentioned your lizards you fap to everyday.
Still the same problem, op and half the thread are insufferable cancerous autists and furries, scalefuckers and mlp fans.
canis lupis
canis vulpis
canis painis
>>26025813
It's either ted cruz or the firestarter
>>26025803
Snake confirmed.
>>26025808
Gamefreak is Japanese. What the Chinese think doesn't matter. In fact that probably means they'd do the opposite because gooks all hate each other.
>>26025811
Too farfetched. Then explain the fucking knuckles.
Or fucking answer my question, why our GRASS snake is not in the FUCKING ZODIAC ?
>>26025827
Serperior is an eel not a snake.
>>26025636
The Japanese names just means strange flower.
Even then, the creature in OP's picture is not a dinosaur at all. And at last, saur literally means lizard.
>>26025834
Right and charizard is a snake with wings taped on it.
Or blaziken is a human male in a bird costume. Get real.
Hell emboar is ganondorf , which is a legend of zelda monster and not a pokemon.
>>26025570
the theme of weaponry is that it just gets more and more weeb
>>26025570
SOMONE POST THIS TO REDDIT. LET'S MAKE A NEW MEME.
>>26025587
Here's your (you)
>>26025827
Oh I was just referring to the fire starters.
I'm also curious about the brass knuckles. And If there is any pattern or theme to grass & water starters at all.
>>26025599
there's no such thing as "otter" you fucking pleb
>>26025851
My favorite zodiac sign is the human male in a bird costume.
>>26025834
Close enough, they're both serpents
>>26025742
Thats a translation error. Its country of orgin classifies it as the "Shell Pokemon"
>>26025570
>serperior is a titanboa
>who's only defining trait is its massive size
>serperior is smaller than several extant snakes
yeah sure
>>26025599
This.
Which begs the question, what animals are left?
>>26025867
This is probably bait but eels are fish.
>>26025881
Elephant, hippo, any water birds.
>>26025864
>implying otters are not real
>>26025884
And fish are animals, so?
>>26025881
Bear, Hippo,Elephant, Iguana, Seal.
>>26025834
>japanese name is a pun of one of the readings for snake in Japan and a french aristocrat
stop
take your fucking medicine
>>26025881
Salamanders?
>>26025885
>bulky water elephant or hippo
I kinda hope not. There's already enough of those.
>>26025884
That's a common misconception.
They belong to the serpent class along with snakes, caecilians, vines, and worms.
>>26025587
The only one that sucks is Delphox
>>26025907
You kinda can't make them slim.
We should have threads where we trigger /an/ more often
>>26025924
We have them all the fucking time.
>>26025902
>water/fighting bear
>iguana that evolves Godzilla like monster
>water salamander
This is why I love the water starters barring gen 4 and 5
>>26025570
While I suppose all the others, at a stretch, could be considered matches, Chesnaught and Feraligatr are absolutely wrong.
There's simply no way Feraligatr is even remotely implied to be wearing knuckle dusters. It's not even part Fighting and those ridges on the arms are simply there for design purposes to show it has tough skin.
Chesnaught is also quite a big stretch. It's a large, armored hedgehog based on both the sturdy nature of a knight, and the resilient shell of a chestnut. It's a mammal that clearly is it's own thing, and it's really hard not to think that the Glyptodon just happens to resemble it.
>>26025570
>Badgers are totally rats guys
>Feraligatr is based off of a fucking knuckle duster because... fuck you that's why
>Venusaur looks nothing like the prehistoric animal it's based on
>Swampert is based on a fucking FAN, the most terrifying weapon.
>Foxes are dogs now, must have missed the memo.
You are a literal fucking mongoloid.
Please remove yourself from the gene pool immediately.
>>26025881
Sea lion, pelicans, water snakes, land crabs, turtles, loons, platypus, carbivara
>>26025881
Seals, polar bears, crabs, lots of seabirds, some snakes, hippos, capybaras, beavers, octopi.
>>26025931
There's no disctinction between rat and mouse in Chinese
>>26025924
>>26025929
Especially in those weekly "animals that should be pokemon" threads.
Wolfaboos just can't seem to handle the concept of dogs being technically wolves.
>>26025966
There is no distinctive line btween a black guy or a white guy. Why anon?
>>26025933
>can't understand loose interpretations
What if I told you real badgers DON'T have fire on their backs.
>>26025966
Obviously. That's why I put the Fire Mouse classification and the shrew similarities as positive points toward it. If you just looked at the chart you could see that.
>>26025966
The "Rat" being in red just means that overall it doesn't fit based on the overwhelming evidence AGAINST the idea it's a rodent.
>>26025979
What if I told you dragons don't breather fire... ohh wait you fucking retard. Or do you wanna pet fire monkeys in zoo ? Or fire pig?
You are a huge retard.
>>26025932
>and it's really hard not to think that the Glyptodon just happens to resemble it.
Why, it looks exactly like a glyptodon. It's more of a stretch to think that they took the specific elements from all of these inspirations and they just happened to look like a glytpodon.
Totally agree on Feraligatr.
>>26025742
But that name is flawed.
Look at a blastoise
[X] shell
[ ] fish
Look at cyndaquil
[X] fire
[X] undeniably mouse like
>>26025873
That, and it's a mistranslation.
The people who bitch about how cyndaquil not being a mouse and "fox =/= dog" are pretty dumb, desu. First of all, the chinese use the same character to mean mouse and rat, so cyndaquil is soundly in there as >>26025652 said. Even without using the dex, which I understand is unreliable, cyndaquil still looks like a rodent. And who ever said that foxes were the same thing as dogs? If anyone has ever said that exact statement, "dogs and foxes are the same animal," then they are an idot. But it is undeniable that the two are very similar.
>>26025800
Nitpicking ass, it symbolizes a volcano, that doesn't mean it is literally a volcano, but read my post above on the pokedex section.
Of course it isn't one to one, but the similarities are certainly there. As some anon, whom's post I cannot find, said "it's loosely based on the chinese zodiac." I agree with him, and I also don't understand why you meanie anons try so hard to disprove this theory. It's not like it's some super cringey fan theory, so I don't understand the point. I'm not even a zodiacfag, but the people who so blindly try and refute it are much much worse than those who post it. It's not even like they constantly make threads day in and day out like waifu fags, there's just a surge in threads because it's a hot debate topic, so a shit load of bait is tossed into the water. And anons on both sides are in a god damn feeding frenzy.
>>26025931
Did gamefreak make this chart?
>>26025570
Foxes belong to the Vulpes genus, not the Canis genus that dogs, wolves, and coyotes belong to.
Foxes are caniens, but they are not dogs. These are the only "dog" Pokemon.
>>26026001
It's because the threads like these are super autistic. What do you think will happen?. Autism or waifu? Hmm... right I guessed so.
>>26025979
All right, fucking tell me how a crocodile that's main trait is biting people is related to a fucking knuckle duster.
Or how Swampert, who uses strength and uses it's fist is related to fucking fans
>>26025570
I can't wait for the next fire starter to be a triceratops so people will try to argue it's a snake.
>>26026011
Hey, the cupcake looks like a dog as well
>>26026002
What?
It made the names for Cyndaquil and Quilava that reference porcupines (in both English and Japanese).
It made the designs for the Cyndaquil line that resemble either weasels (for Quilava and Typhlosion) or porcupines (for Cyndaquil).
And then it also made the classification for only Cyndaquil that refers to it as a mouse.
>>26025910
Maybe under a medieval body type classification system but genetically, they are fish.
>>26026030
>it's a cold-blooded archosaur, so clearly that's the same thing as a reptile
>ANTI-ZODIACFAGS BTFO
>>26026035
Ahh yeah pugs.
>>26026011
>African wolf
Whenever I see this it still confuses the hell out of me. African wolves look nothing like Riolu or Lucario, so why add it to the chart? They're clearly just based on Anubis.
>>26025570
THE ONLY FUCKING PATTERN IN WATER STARTERS IS THAT THE ANIMAL THEY'RE BASED ON ARE ALL AMPHIBIOUS JESUS CHRIST
>>26026011
>foxes are not canines
Then what the fuck are these, genius?
>>26026011
SMEARGLE IS A DOG???
>>26026053
oops forgot pic
>>26026046
Probably because Anubis was most likely inspired by African wolves.
>>26026049
and even then, that's not really an intended pattern rather than something that has to happen since gamefreak wants water starters to be able to fight easily on land
>>26026024
Dont go into the thread then?
>>26026035
>>26026045
Never mind it is a Bicton frise
>>26026046
But Anubis himself is based on an African wolf, so by proxy, so are Riolu/Lucario
>>26026037
is it trying to prove or disprove zodiac theory? because it doesn't do either
>>26026053
He literally stated in the second line that foxes are canines. They do not belong to Canis though.
>>26025791
Holy shit could you be more literally illiterate? Other than being flat up wrong, that's not even how Chinese etymology works, so even if it wasn't blatantly wrong, it'd still be retarded.
EVERYBODY HOLD THE FUCK UP FOXES CONFIRMED FOR ANIMAL[犭] PUMPKINS[瓜]
Pleas enlighten us, Borges, what do you make of the relationship between these?
>>26026067
Nahh, I love to argue, but I am not autistic.
>>26026057
>Smear
>Beagle
>Smeargle
>>26026073
If you want to take that to mean that Cyndaquil represents a rat, then fine. If you want to take that to mean it doesn't, then fine.
>>26025881
Tardigrade.
>>26025885
A new water starter that goes
Nutria -> beaver -> platypus
would be neat
Maybe it can pick up poison along the way for the platypus part
>>26026076
>Borges
scary
>>26026072
No guys, it is based on a pharaoh hound
>>26026083
/thread
>>26026081
>implying english names are always accurate to the species
Do you really think eelectross is an eel and that zigzagoon is a raccoon?
>>26026091
Nice samefagging.
>>26025570
Water is actally fedual japan
Blastiose: muskettier
Feraligatr (my bro)/swampert: Sumo wrestlers
Empoleon: emporer
Samurott: do i even have to say
Greninja: really DO I EVEN HAVE TO SAY IT
INB4: My spelling is horrible because mobile, i know
>>26025803
Ted Cruz Fire type Starter Confirmed!
>>26025570
Foxes are bit dogs. Feraligatr is not more of a martial artist than any other pokémon. You know this, you're just willfully trolling.
And newsflash: the only reason why there are so many reptile grass starters is that reptiles look good in green.
>>26026098
Wasn't me. Sorry.
>>26026099
Explain blastoise and musketeer
>>26026085
Water/Electric with Poison Touch as a Hidden Ability.
>>26025594
He's just baiting. Or severely autistic, it's hard to tell sometimes.
>>26025993
What did he mean by this?
>>26026098
sorry bud.
>>26026111
*cough* guns
>>26025860
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but GEN V!
>>26025617
Nothing.
>>26026077
>picking fights online about a game about fighting technicolor monsters
>not autistic
>>26026125
Why do you put those together, it has no similarities in either it's name, nor its looks.
>>26025570
REMINDER TO THE DENIALFAGS THAT THE FIRE STARTERS DON'T HAVE TO BE THE EXACT SAME ANIMAL, THEY JUST HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME FAMILY
That's why the Fennekin line fits perfectly into the dog part of the Zodiac.
>>26026096
Are you illiterate or just classically stupid?
>>26026117
Nah, He's just pretending to be retarded.
>>26025651
That's a mistranslation, in japanese it's the shell pokemon.
>>26026131
Last time I checked, musketeers used swords, or rapier, not musketeer guns.
Also it is cannons, not guns.
Cannons are heavy duty artillery.
>>26026150
I just woke up.
>>26026142
Surprise asshole exist, welcome to the real world.
>>26026093
It has paws, hanging tongue and hanging ears. Of course it is a fucking dog.
>>26026148
Yet Cyndaquil and it's line has nothing to do with mice or rats as they are hedgehogs. Hedgehogs aren't even related to them or nay rodent for that matter
check link
http://mentalfloss.com/article/27862/rodent-or-not-rodent
>>26026114
But why electric? To draw a similarity between beavers and power tools? Thats kinda lame desu
>>26026148
That closes down why Serperior is not a fire type. So that is void.
>>26026027
Still waiting for your proof.
I agree that fire starters follow the zodiac, but if Typhlosian is a rat, why doesn't it have a long Raticate tail? Not saying he's not, but what rat-like characteristics does he have?
>>26026176
Failing at logic this hard
>>26026184
Nothing.
It's just a forced meme.
So what would it take to finally shut up the zodiacfags? If there would be yet another fire starter that has nothing to do with the zodiac, they'll just try more "foxes are technically dogs", "bats are technically chickens", "bears are technically rabbits" bullshit.
>>26026167
Hey look, a dog!
>>26026156
>A musketeer (French: mousquetaire) was an early modern type of soldier equipped with a musket. Musketeers were an important part of early modern armies
You where saying
>>26026147
>dragons have to breathe fire
/tg/ says hello
And the second half of your post was nonsensical
>>26026184
>literally a fat rat
>h-how does it look like a rat?
>>26026186
What logic? That foxes are in family with dogs a dog zodiac, and that snakes are in family with serpents? Which funny enough is a snake. Long story short you are failing at logic.
>>26026161
The latter, then.
>>26026194
A cat that does not in any way resemble a tiger.
Ah, who am I kidding? They'd make that work too somehow.
>>26026202
Badgers aren't rats
>>26026201
Have a you retard.
>>26026175
>Monotremes (for the other species, see Echidna) are the only mammals (apart from at least one species of dolphin) known to have a sense of electroreception: they locate their prey in part by detecting electric fields generated by muscular contractions. The platypus' electroreception is the most sensitive of any monotreme.
>>26026194
It would take a fire starter that is not rabbit/rodent-like, reptilian/serpentine, cat-like in any way, or any kind of ungulate.
>>26025966
it's also just generally not a species based category. it just refers to vermin. any fuzzy animal that people don't want around. "rodent" might have been the better translation if there was a way to denote it being used as a slang or colloquially rather than scientifically.
>>26026184
>Pokemon has to keep every characteristic of the animal they are based on
Just because Typhlosion is a rat pokemon, doesn't mean that it HAS to have a rat tail.
>>26026148
Moving the fucking goal post. What's even the point of calling it a pattern anymore, then? And what would it take for an animal not fit into your bullshit definition? What if it's a turtle? Are they technically snakes?
>>26026215
It really was, though
>>26025993
>Or do you wanna pet fire monkeys in zoo ? Or fire pig?
>>26026207
how does being tired and making a mistake translate into me being stupid?
>>26026216
but that's not as cool as getting STAB Poison Jab
just give it No Guard as a hidden ability to simulate the electroreception
>>26026200
That cannons are heavy duty artillery and not guns.
Are you deaf? Last time I looked, musketeers didn't ran around with cannons on their back, nor in their hand.
And even if musket balls look like baby cannon balls, they are still in the low tier gun ammo.
While cannon balls are in the heavy artillery ammo.
Touche game is lost.
>>26025907
There's only one elephant and one hippo line
>>26026177
Just answer him, dumbass. You're being a child.
>>26026236
That would also work.
>>26026230
>Moving the fucking goal post
protip: you don't know what that means
>>26026226
>Dragon has wings
>Rooster has crown and talons
>Monkey has primate features
>Boar has tusks
>Dog has ears and tail
>>26026231
It was to make an example of how retarded your comment was.
Fire monkeys and fire pigs don't exist. And using an excuse to turn a badger with fire into let's say.. "hurry durr real life badgers don't have fire on their back" that was you. And I replied with that monkeys with fire on their back, nor pigs with fire on their back are neither real.
>>26026216
Huh. I did not know that. What a neat factoid.
>>26026211
If foxes count as dogs for some retarded reason, then cats are tigers. It's nonsense, all of it.
>>26026230
Nope, it's not moving the goalpost when you know that a musketeer like D'artagnan can be turned into a horse when it is pokemonified. Pokemon take inspirtation from many things and sometimes it's subtle.
>>26026237
Meh, my theory is now edited
Blastiose: musketier/Canonner
>>26026253
>everything with ears and tail is a dog.
Flawless logic.
>>26026262
How does Feraligatr look like a sumo wrestler?
>>26026242
Oh, you must be from the universe without Hydrophant. It's fine you're not missing much. We don't have Krookodile.
>>26026197
Rabbits are not among the very few animals that pant, nor are they known for sticking out their tongue at all. Judging by your picture you probably looked exclusively up a picture of rabbit tongue.
Also their feet do not have pads as seen on Smeargle's feet and the quite big mark on its back.
>>26026226
Mice and rats are rodents.
Cyndaquil is a Hedgehog.
Hedgehogs are not rodents.
Cyndaquil line is not rat or related to zodiac at all.
>>26026194
Slippery slope fallacy
Dogs and foxes are so similar that the Chinese basically had the same pictogram for both
>>26026257
First off, wasnt me, just saw a retarded post and decided to drop a sick nasty meme.
Second, your explanation only makes you sound dumber
>>26025864
>>26026249
You're trying to change the subject of the argument after the fact, since you don't have the balls to stick to your own definitions.
>>26026270
"Mouse Pokemon" - this is canon
>>26026267
*facepalms*
>>26026262
That's much better.
A canon er was a force not to be reckoned with.
They beat up foes by their semi long range combat. They were amazing . Certain pirates then made the first handheld cannon's , later to turn into bazookas.
Now the theory works, good work anon.
>>26026266
Yeah, I should have used a more distinct feature like a long snout or canine teeth.
>>26026285
That's not what moving the goal post is, please kill yourself. Also not the person you are arguing with.
>>26026261
That does not have anything to do with my question. Please try again, and try using your eyeballs this time.
>>26026270
And where's your proof that Typhlosion is a hedgehog? Huh? You don't have any proof?
Meanwhile, we have the zodiac as a concrete proof that Typhlosion is a rat. The fact that Typhlosion and its line looks like rats (And Cyndaquil being a Fire Mouse Pokemon) further proves that.
>>26026293
Yay, someone agrees now
>>26026273
>sick nasty meme.
>nasty meme
>meme
Yeah we are done talking. Fucking g 9gag gers.
>>26026286
cyndaQUIL.
Looks like hedgehog and has no tail.
Not a mouse.
Also dex isn't canon or do you believe Slugma can melt the planet's surface.
>>26026286
"Shellfish Pokemon" - this is canon
>>26026305
I've never been to 9gag nor reddit, buddy; i was being facetious
>>26026308
>pokemon can't have more than one inspiration
>>26026308
>>26026314
poorly translated, Japanese version doesn't say either
Guys I've found the real, undeniable pattern
Water starters are all aquatic creatures, fire starters are always associated with fire and grass starters are always part plant and useless
>>26026308
>info stated within the game isn't canon
how do you know pokemon universe physics is the same as ours?
>>26026337
Nigga Ima beat you up with my Woodhammer
>>26026314
Shellfish is a mistranslation from the Japanese version, which is just "Shell". Cyndaquil's Jap dex actually states it's a mouse.
Never seen this image before. But how would you place the gen 7 starters in that?
Like we already know their names. I really fail to see how they at all going to fit this pattern, even if some of it is pushing the boundries already
>>26026300
This is a rat.
Yeah when comparing it, it's almost like a mirror.
>>26026349
>moon moth
>>26026337
>implying tortoises are aquatic
>>26026344
>physical grass types
good luck with that
>>26026329
Obviously. I wasnt saying it should be taken literally, I was mocking his logic for being unreliable and wrong.
>>26026354
I'm not talking about the legendaries, whether they're lions or whatever. I'm talking about the starters
>>26026362
Jap dex is canon
>>26026356
Squirte isn't a tortoise.
There are tons of aquatic turtles/terrapins with legs.
>>26026308
>Slugma can melt the planet's surface
hyperbole and lie aren't synonyms
>>26026269
Rabbits are known for panting-like behavior when they are stressed. With those bags under it's eyes, and the busy life of an artist, Smeargle could easily be a stressed rabbit.
>>26025570
grass even a 5 year old could see that the rest are asspulls
>>26026384
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
>>26025570
If you want to count Cyndaquil as a mouse because of its species names, then you must accept that Charmander is a lizard, not a dragon, that Chimchar is a chimp, not a monkey, and that Fennekin is a fox, not a dog.
>>26026368
Yes, and the Jap Dex is ひねずみポケモン, as in Hi Nezumi Pokemon. NEZUMI is a general term for small fuzzy things that live in holes. Literally that's the distinction between it and other similar animals, it lives in hideyholes. Nezumi is a broad term that happens to include mice, rats, voles, hamsters, gerbils, and others. It is not literally nor explicitly denoting a mouse.
>>26026420
>being this delusional
You're literally denying that Cyndaquil, a pokemon that looks like a mouse and is stated to be a mouse by the dex, is a mouse.
>>26026392
Rabbits don't have long tails though, and Smeargle's tail is probably the most important part of its design. You could make a case for a viscacha though, although not technically a rabbit.
>>26026441
It doesn't look like a mouse, and it's not stated to be a mouse by the dex.
>>26026420
>Nezumi is a broad term that happens to include mice
>>26026405
No.
Take the red-eared terrapin for example, probably one of the most commonly known ones, which lives in rivers and has legs, not flippers.
>>26026465
Yes, including half the other things more similar cyndaquil than mice.
>>26026466
>still baiting this hard
>>26026465
>all rectangles must be squares logic
IQ of a 1st grader
Feraligator isn't a cocodrile cuzzz it doesn't ahve a long tail!
>>26025570
Let's say this is a thing and let's also assume the supposed leaks about starter names are real.
Fire cat would evolve into a tiger.
Grass bird based on a post dinosaur era.
Water seal thing would be a morning star/mace.
It's not the worst thing in the world. I am completely neutral on the pattern thing but I think the above would make sense.
>>26026487
>any unidentified rectangle may be a square
I bet you aren't even STEM
>>26026491
Nigga wut
>>26025931
Where is this from?
>>26026501
>Grass bird based on a post dinosaur era.
Birds came into existed before the non-bird dinosaurs died out.
>>26026365
yeah. I was saying that Greninja was speculated to be a moon moth. We don't have a good idea of what the starters will be without at least silhouettes.
>>26026365
We have no idea what animals or themes the starters are yet
>>26026480
Here, have a picture. It obviously have legs.
>>26026524
>nyabbi
take a guess.
>>26026441
>looks like a mouse
It doesn't though. The only similaries between Cyndaquil and a mouse is that both are small and furry, which are things that apply to hundreds of other animals.
Cyndaquil doesn't have big ears, a long tail, large incisors, or hand-like paws. Mice don't have long, toothless snouts, or quills on their back.
>>26026531
this is autism
