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What mega got the longest end of the stick?
X is by far the more interesting and exciting of the two. Y is probably the more useful overall though.
Kangaskhan and Mawile. From NU to OP.
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Mega fug as it is allowed to carry an item.
>>25972498
nah
Blaziken went from Uber to Doober
>>25972497
X best to use in battle for that type switching. Y looks the best and truest
>>25972504
this
We talking all megas, or just between the Charlesman megas?
>>25972504
/thread
>>25972498
>/threading your own post
>>25972497
X is made to appeal to literal retards. Y is Charizard's only true mega evolution.
>>25972514
yes
>>25972473
>yfw Megazard Y is the Raichu to Megazard X's Pikachu
>>25972507
Mega Blaziken is more like a different playstyle than a straight upgrade. Megamom is much better than it.
>>25972556
>megamom
>better than mega Blaziken
???
>>25972512
Y is a tremendous wall breaker, x is a tremendous sweeper. They both are great
>>25972556
in what way is Mega Blaziken a different playstyle
>>25972562
I guess they're pretty much on the same level in Ubers, both being strong B's.
As for VGC or any other Doubles format megamom beats the shit out of it.
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>>25972568
>wallbreaker that loses to wall.bmp 100% of the time
>>25972581
I might have been exaggerating by saying different playstyle, but Mega Blaziken isn't strictly better than the regular. Sure it faster and has more bulk, but the hits are weaker.
>>25972617
the additional bulk makes it better
that makes it better for setting up boosts to embiggen its strength and/or baton passing its boosts
>>25972756
Do you really want to waste your mega slot on a glorified Ninjask though?
>>25972765
yes
>>25972617
I agree, mega blaziken is the same as mega garchomp in the sense that there regular forms are already top tier and their Megas are a waste of a mega slot.
>>25972473
>X
>Mixed stat spread even though base Charizard is a special attacker.
>Weak to Fairy
>Weak to Dragon
>No Ice resistance
>Shit ability
>Y
>Gets Sp.Atk out the fucking ass
>Gets Drought on top of that meaning a fire blast from this fucker can 1-shot everything ever
>1 turn solarbeam for any faggot water types
>Ice and water don't do jack shit to it anyway because he's just too hot to handle.
>Only fags use stealth rock
The winner is clear.
>>25972805
X isn't weak to fairy and zard y isn't resistant to ice.
>>25972805
Tough Claws is a great ability since nearly all physical moves make contact. You know aside from Rock and Ground ones, which is why M-Aero struggles.
The ability completely outclasses things like Iron Fist and Reckless since it affects far more moves in addition to giving a bigger boost.
It isn't among the top 10 abilities, but it is for sure among the top 20.
>>25972805
>X
>Mixed stat spread and a plethora of uses even as a mixed attacker
>makes use of Charizard's physical attack pool as well as dragon dance
>Neutral to Fairy
>Neutral to Water
>130 base attack + 33% contact move boost through Tough Claws
>Not as vulnerable to stealth rock
>Y
>Only one use easy to predict and force a switch
>No type change
>drastically lowered defense susceptible to physical priority moves such as sucker punch and Extreme Speed
>Ability was nerfed giving it a five turn limit
>SE to water
>Neutral to ice
>extremely vulnerable to Stealth rocks
>No speed boost despite the slim body
Very clear
>>25972554
This is so sad.
Atleast Y was in Super's Cover and it has an statue in Japan
>>25973005
For every good thing Y has X has about three more one more well known and anticipated games.
See, Pokken and Smash.
It's sad but they both couldn't take the spotlight and only one was what the majority wanted.
>>25973003
>>SE to water
Not under the sun you dumb fuck.
>>25973092
see
>>Ability was nerfed giving it a five turn limit
>>25973098
Literally nobody leaves a wallbreaker out for 5 turns
>>25972537
>its black i cant say i like it or people call me edgy
>playing X
>already think Charizard X looks 2edgy4me
>roll a Charmander with Modest
just fuck my up senpai
>>25973144
It is pretty lame that the mega is black and blue, kinda spits in the face of anyone who was lucky/dedicated enough to get a shiny Charizard.
>non legendary megas
Either Kangaskhan or Salamence. I'd go with Salamence cause it can still wreck shop even in Ubers which neither Big momma or Mawile can do.
>legendary
mega fug, not even a contest.
>>25973210
I argue that Salamence is more dangerous due to how it can just trick someone into feeling safe, only for their pokemon to die to either a Hyper Voice or a Double Edge. This doesn't factor in that it can just Substitute and Dance as well.
Truly, it's confusingly dangerous.It's a shame that the most used sets are the boost and kill ones. I mean, that's fine, but it just means your Salamence is predictable.
>>25972473
Shiny Mega Charizard Y (god that's a mouthful) is the best looking charizard.
>>25973035
Better than nothing, I guess.
>>25973274
What else do you want? You could do a defensive Mega Mence but that's fucking stupid since Altaria exists
>>25972473
I wish Y would have gotten a boost to it's speed instead of a slight boost to it's attack stat. Would make it way better I think.
>>25973144
>contrarians on 4chan hate it therefore I must be counter-contrarian to them
Kill yourself.
I just a made a mega pidgeot and it's pretty cool. No miss hurricane, heat wave and hyper beam is great fun for an otherwise useless nostalgia bird
>>25972537
nice meme m8
>>25972473
Kangaskhan by far.
Charizard is one of my favorites, and I'm glad it got two megas, But I have to say I wouldn't mind if Megazard X didn't exist.
>>25972617
>Sure it faster and has more bulk, but the hits are weaker
Yeah but that would mean you'd have to run an adamant regular for stronger hits which is easily checkable. The damage isn't weaker by any meaningful margin else you'd notice more regular Blazikens in the meta.
>>25972790
>Megas are a waste of a mega slot
Bad analogy. You clearly don't understand anything about stats or sets. Most people that run Blaziken in singles have the mega slot utilized for it.
Mega Mom and Mega Mawile boosted some NU Pokemon well into OU and Ubers, so I'm gonna go with them.
>>25972595
>he doesnt run surprise Flare Blitz Charizard Y
git gud
>>25976475
>he runs "surprise" ELOzard Y
Thanks for the free points
Definitely Mawile.
It went from never used total trash to top tier threat in one swift move. Also the Fairy typing was a huge factor but without the mega's ability it'd be just a gimmick mon which would need tons of support.
Mega Mom had somewhat of a niche before getting a mega, having lots of tricks up her sleeve and all.
>>25976475
I think surprise Overheat CharX is better.
>>25976571
What doe Overheat kill that Fire Blast doesn't?
also not every shitmon has gimmick, what gimmick does mawile have? the fact that it's shit?
>>25972617
It's bulk and speed makes all the difference. The Mega is objectively better.
>>25972805
>being this retarded
>>25973003
Zard X also has more than one set too, so its more versatile.
Rayquaza for obvious reasons.
Mawile because it became a God of Destruction.
Kangaskhan, same reason as above.
Mewtwo because guess what.
Lucario because really.
Those are my candidates anyway. Rayquaza is definetly the strongest if you want to go by that, but Mawile and Kangaskhan got the best buffs.
The problem with X is his drooling fire looks fine in 2D art and as a particle effect in 3D, but silly as a cel-shaded mass, which is how it's depicted in the game.
>>25976475
>recoil moves against Chansey
>>25977061
You need to lern2read.
I said Mega Kanga had a gimmick with support moves before getting a mega, therefore in my opinion Mawile is the mega that got "the longest stick" because it was as useful as Sunkern.
Also, I quoted the anon that said surprise Flare Blitz CharY was good, so I said Overheat CharX was better. I was at no point debating which move is better, but the surprise factor of having a special move in a physical set pokemon (and vice versa).
>>25979813
Particle effect fire like the stuff from an Ajin regenerating would look glorious. Now I'm sad.
The big question is why Charizard and Mewtwo have two Megas and not Lucario, especially when they use two Lucarios to introduce mega evolution.
It seemed like an obvious decision for you to get one and she gets the other.
>>25980084
what do you KO with Overheat on M-Char X that you don't with Fire Blast
>>25972473
Design-wise I like Y, but X is better for if you actually want to try and use a Zard competitively
You're not allowed to have both its seems
>Fire Blast
>Solar Beam
>Roost
what's the superior 4th move?
>Focus Blast
>Dragon Pulse
>Tail Glow
>Air Slash
>>25982368
Substitute
>>25982368
>not Air Slash for STAB
>>25982368
>Tail Glow
>>25982481
sorry, my son's wife was distracting me
>>25982475
Air Slash doesn't do anything aside from hit Mega Venusaur super effectively, which doesn't even matter since Mega Venusaur takes more from Drought boosted Fire Blast anyway, even accounting for Thick Fat
name 3 things that Air Slash hits that aren't hit harder by one of it's other four coverage moves; even earthquake has more merit by virtue of it cleanly OHKOing Heatran and doing SE damage to Volcanion
