Would you be ok if Pokemon S&M are just like Fire Emblem Fates? Two different sides from the same game with different story/missions/characters?
>>25960458
D-Didn't we just get ORAS?
There are ways it could be done poorly and well. I think the best way to do it is one game has less gyms or no gyms because it focuses on the villianous team. The other game has no villians but a lot of gyms and more rival development.
>>25960458
I considered this possibility for a second, actually.
Sun would be targeted to the same group XY was, while Moon would be targeted to the same group BW2 was. Sun would have a standard pokemon story while Moon would have a more complex story, which fans would think means better but ends up meaning absolutely horrid.
>>25960458
So Ruby and Sapphire then?
>>25960566
>>25960482
Nah, Ruby/Sapphire are equal in so many ways. They just switch teams doing the same thing on the same locations.
>>25960458
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>>25960458
>Pokemon is famous for the two versions thing
>Differences between each version has always only been a bunch of exclusives and some other minor things
>FE tries the two versions for the first time
>Gets it right
Why is GameFreak so horrible in every way shape or form?
>>25960458
so they're getting rid of pokemon amie?
>>25961195
Ruby and Saphire's Hoenn should have had more permanent side effects as a result of the Groudon/Kyogre awakening.
Like in Ruby the water could recede allowing Pacifdlog Town rest alongside a newly formed Island. The desert north of Mauville Town could expand in all directions, and the Volcano could erupt (causing rockslides and geographic changes to happen in Meteor Falls, Fallabar Town, etc.) And more stiff like that----perhaps land bridges could arise throughout the ocean routes, making it possible to bike between the 3-4 Island towns.
Stuff like that-----or for Sapphire where everything is flooded, Slateport is partially flooded and it's beach is now a marsh, much of Lilycove City has fallen into the rising sea, and it's 50%+ more likely to have thunderstorms/rain in any point in Hoenn after the main campaign.
Graphically, I wouldn't expect that from R/S/E/, but ORAS should have done so much more with their remake of Hoenn. (Also no Battle Frontier. Wtf?)
The only reason Conquest exists is because the Fire Emblem developers wanted to be greedy and thought that they could make a little more money with the villainous faction designs and reel in the Dark Souls audience.
>>25960458
I'd like that actually.
Sun could be for more beginner pokemon players, while Moon could be more difficult like those voltwhile/blazeblack mods.
Too bad Gamefreak is full of cucks
>>25961573
>muh difficulty
Without the waifu fags that ruined Fire Emblem? Sure, I'd be down.
>>25960458
i sure hope they sell a limited quantity Special edition with dlc that's locked for 3 months
>>25960458
fuck off
Fates was how you DON'T do paired games
>>25960458
I'd be perfectly fine with it. Fates has so much content in it it doesn't feel like a waste of money to get both games.
>>25961597
Imagine Conquest without Azura. So many things could have been improved.
Also, Felicia as your main rival in Pokemon Moon. "WE'VE GOT TROUBLE!" before every battle.
>>25961650
>Thinking Pokemon handles paired games better than Fire Emblem
Cancer at its finest. I prefer not to get both games if I want to complete the dex years after a generation has gone and passed away.
>>25960458
Fuck you and fuck anyone who would support this garbage practice. Literally the worst.
I'd rather not pay $40 for an incomplete game, and I don't ever want to spend $80 on one single game. I don't know why weeb faggots think that's acceptable, or why they throw their money away like that. Nothing short of a 50%+ sale could convince me to buy that piece of shit Fates.
>>25961650
No, Fates was a solid idea but the way it was sold was completely asinine. The idea of a game split into two separate stories could work if both games were 15 dollars but I would never pay 40 extra dollars to get the full story of a game I just planned, regardless of how good it might be. Revelations also crushed any sort of willingness to purchase the game as well due to being an essential purchase to completely understand the story.
I want to fuck Takumi
>>25961538
Actually, it's the third route, Revelations, that was the greedy add-on. The original script had two routes with neither being "canon" or strictly good vs evil.
But then they added the third route which has an objectively good end and less moral relativism.
I've been playing around with this idea for awhile, and I've had ideas on how GF could do it.
>Both versions start in the same hometown
>you meet the professor, get your starter, make it to the first gym town that has two paths leading out of it, one left and one right
>you beat the gym and something happens with the villainous team/natural disaster that breaks a bridge in one direction or blocks off a cave/damages a boat/etc. that prevents you from going the other direction
>each version takes you to a different part of the region where you either fight the gyms in different orders, or there is a completely different set of gyms to fight in each game
>assuming they aren't jews and hold off to the third version of the game, after you beat the E4, you can journey into the other side of the region which is now balanced for the post-game in level scaling
>the 16th gym is always the same at the end of the region where you then are able to fight another E4/gain access to whatever battle facility they have
>>25963076
>Fuck you and fuck anyone who would support this garbage practice. Literally the worst.
GF have been doing it for 20 years already
>>25963657
I'd be down for this but it's too ambitious for GF to put in the work needed to essentially produce 2 regions
>>25961477
Underrated post
>>25961124
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>>25960458
>2 connected regions sharing an E4, like kanto/johto
>each version starts in a seperate region
>different professors, same starters
>each region has its own pokemon/gyms/evil team/ect
>major differences in plot and progression between the two versions
>after E4 is vanquished, you travel to the opposite region from the other version
>get access to their monsters/gyms and fight their evil team
it will never happen because gamefreak is lazy and will never make two regions for one gen, but something like this would be the perfect way to make duel-version games going forth
>>25966711
>different protags in each verion
>final boss is the protag from the other version
Who /hinoka/ hereHer WEED retainer is cute though
>>25966731
>there are hoshidans in this thread RIGHT NOW
>>25965051
How fucking retarded can you be? The versions were always the same game. One full experience with extremely slight differences. The fates model is one full experience split into half. This shit doesn't benefit anyone and just serves to stroke the ego of fags who try to justify buying both versions anyway.
No, because then I'm inclined to buy both rather than have a friend buy the other version
>>25966731
>He didn't S-rank Hinoka
>>25960458
Probably, in the past the joke about the different versions were the exclusive Pokémon but nowadays thanks to the internet unless you're the biggest autist to have ever existed it isn't a problem.
>>25960458
I wouldn't mind it and I'd be happy to buy both, but it would suck for the kids.
However, we all know GF are too lazy to ever do that. The reason there are 2 games is to force dipshits to buy both out of FOMO whilst creating what is essentially one game with a couple different pokemon and a slightly different script.
>>25961195
>Gets it right
For the record people loathe the way it's done with FE
>>25961195
>>25967612
The fact that all three routes were available on a single cart on the LE was a thing contributed to the salt on the matter.
>>25961522
None of that makes any sense especially the desert.
Groudon and Kyogre lack the kind of power to do such a thing that quickly, hell the reason they were feared is the damage they caused while fighting rather than the damage done solo.
>>25963316
The problem is that you're thinking of it on terms of story rather than play time and content. In that sense they're well worth the money due to the fact that it dwarfs previous FE games.
>>25966787
The game was always designed in two parts like that anon.
It's literally the full experience x2 as opposed to being split.
>>25967640
Ah, so you think Birthright and Conquest are each it's own experience and not a part of something whole. Alright then, no use trying to convince someone who enjoys getting fucked in the ass so much to the point where they're this deluded.
>>25967612
That is not true at all, you must be used to /v/'s vocal minority shitposting
>>25967766
They are completely different games that are worth the full price individually, no content was split or removed, have you actually played the game?
CENSORED SHIT
>>25967799
So you'd rather have 2 diffferent, mediocre games than 1 good one. Gotcha.
>worth the full price individually
80$ for that piece of crap? Damn, I guess they don't even need lube when you have an asshole that loose.
Pokemon games have been declining in quality enough lately, no need to make them even worse by having them develop two games simultaneously. If you think you're going to have two different games made in the same amount of time one game made without some sacrifices in quality, you're delusional.
>>25967852
>So you'd rather have 2 diffferent, mediocre games than 1 good one. Gotcha.
Good thing I can choose between two good ones huh?
>>25967852
>mediocre games
They are each full games with just as much content if not more than the rest of the series, all you are doing is proving you have no idea what you're talking about. Fuck off
>>25967852
The problem is that you're thinking of the game as one when it was designed as two with the content of two games.
I mean, fuck, one game alone has more content than Awakening which was already pretty meaty as it is.
Of course it would help if I was talking to someone who actually played the game rather than shitposting about something they have touched.
>>25967883
Haven't*
>>25967860
>>25967872
>>25967883
Holy shit you people are delusional. You're the type that justifies a games worth by how long it lasts you, never taking into account the filler crap they add in that takes minimal effort to make to bloat the time it takes to beat it. Pure fucking cancer of the gaming industry.
>>25967906
So you mean we can't like a game because it has more gameplay than the last because you don't like them?
And you're calling us the cancer, are you even aware as.to how many good series have died because of this line of thinking?
You're the reason why shit like Sticker Star happened you don't care about the quality of the game at all.
>>25967906
>filler crap
Tell me, what part of Fates falls into this?
>>25967929
He can't, he hasn't played it.
>>25967906
Did it ever occur to you that filler content can actually be good?
On top of that there's nothing wrong with having more content in the game.
The only cancer in this thread is you and you're the reason why games nowadays have short campaigns and mediocre gameplay.
Fucking kill yourself.
Quality > Quantity
Fire Emblem Fates was a shitty cashgrab and litmus test
>>25968057
>cashgrab
>all 3 routes of Fates are unique and better than its predecessor
>Conquest specifically is one of the best games in the whole series
wew
>>25968068
>best games
Yeah for IS' Dark Souls audience
>>25968076
Conquest isn't good because it's hard, it's good because the gameplay is fantastically designed from start to finish with only a few small humps along the way
You can have both quality and quantity at the same time
>>25968057
Quality and quantity is preferred and possible.
Good thing we have both with Fates especially since the hard mode is actually hard this time.
If you took five minutes to play something other that AAA releases you would realise you can have both.
>>25960458
Yes, absolutely.
I was talking to a buddy of mine back when Sun and Moon was first revealed.
