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Can't watch webms on my iPad, lel.
Fucking apple
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>>25917365
Why the fuck does this shit look so good!?
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>>25917401
fuck i need to rewatch that episode.
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>>25917453
>there are people who think this isn't the best fight in the series
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>tfw the English voice sucked ass
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>>25917502
>tfw it's been a year since it aired

Too bad the only fight to look forward to these days is Alan vs Ash
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>>25917290
This is triggering me to no end Jesus Christ DELETE THIS
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>>25917533
>Wulfric
>Alan
>Diantha
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>>25917590
>Diantha

Probably not going to be a 'fight' per say but more of look how strong the champion is.

>wulfric
Has potential but in the match ups we have seen Ash has type advantage which immediately makes it less interesting.
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>>25917592
>Blastoise beats Jolteon
>Charizard beats Blastoise

See, this shit is why I can't take this seriously, they made Red's other Pokemon job to ridiculous choices while other things job ridiculously to his Charizard
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>>25917698
>we have seen Ash has type advantage which immediately makes it less interesting.

When the flying fuck has that ever mattered? Emphasis on flying because both of Ash's flying types got fucking wrecked by Ramos, and he won with his water starter. If anything Wulfric has the advantage because Talonflame gets buttfucked by Avalugg, and Abomasnow wrecks all of his other mons.
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>>25917698
Well he forces her to mega evolve because he was too strong otherwise.
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>>25917266
God damn the ashime is so gay
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>>25917335
Fuck Apple
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>>25917333
Why is it with the anime that it is either cringeworthy poorly animated and child-like or cringeworthy over the top dragon ball z edge?
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>>25917997
Not sure what you mean by any of this but the anime is probably the best it ever has been and the way it's looking the future anime (if there is one) is only going to get better in animation, lighting, etc..
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>>25917997

>dragon ball z
>edge

is this kid serious
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>>25918062
Animation is fine but the battle scenes look like dragon ball z
It used to be too boring and too much talking and announcing moves but now its going full edge.
Explosions and pokemon flying into walls breaking them at mach speed is a bit over the top desu
At least its better but then the story parts of the ashime outside of battles is the same shit
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>>25918096
>dragon ball z
>not the beginning point of edge elements in children's anime
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>>25918166

please stop posting
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>>25917428
The sad thing here is that the main anime got better animation for this move than the movie did.
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>>25918166
Dragon ball, pokemon and sailor moon. The beginners intro to anime. As well as the first ones I watched.
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>>25918133

>battle scenes look like dragon ball z

Are you seriously implying this is a problem?
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>>25918219
Yes your point? Bleach is very entry level and I would hope we could both agree that its full edge.
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>>25918247

Bleach isn't edgy for its fight scenes you stupid fuck. It's edgy for its characters and writing.
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>>25918228
Yes. How old are you? This is like g gundam or gundam seed vs 8th ms team gundam or the 0079 ms gundam.

I should also point out that despite the overall better animation, these scenes often have incredibly bad orientation and trajectory for characters flying around or when the camera pans.
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>>25918247
Yes but we don't see pokemon getting cut in half Like how what often happens in Bleach now do we?

Also fight scenes are way more dialog heavy.
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>>25918277
Its both. Try not to get too emotional or you might have to turn on some linkin park amvs
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>>25918282

What fucking Pokemon season is like ms gundam? Old Pokemon was just stock animations on flashing backgrounds. And Seed was absolute garbage, never compare its fights to DBZ, or any of its qualities to numerous shows that did them better.
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>>25918288
No they wouldn't do that in a children's show. All I'm saying is that the over use of explosions, power ups, imma charging muh laser, and flying from attacks all the way across the battle field at high speed crashing into solid rock and leaving a crater is over the top. Overall the animation has gotten a lot better and the battle scenes are more action oriented, I'll give it that.
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>>25918298

>fights having the slightest bit of seriousness or direction makes them "edgy"

Please eat a fucking dick.
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>>25918318
Why do ashime fafs get so defensive? I never said the old seasons were like gundam. I'm pointing out the difference in over the top lazer shit fest wow solo crazy style action vs more grounded action scenes. 08th ms is a great example of how grounded battle scenes can be thoroughly engaging without leveraging over the top super hero or dragon ball esque battle choreography.
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>>25918382
>pokemon flying into concrete and creating craters and explosions from every attack is serious
>eat a dick
Nigga grow up and cut the straw man bullshit.
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>>25918400
Sounds like someone is just using "edgy" to describe anything they don't like.
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>>25917452
classic
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>>25918341
Yeah apart of me still wants to watch the show and movies again. Seeing as how the animation improved so much. Then I remember how much time I spent watching the show when I was young. It grew on me and after a while I sort of burnt out on it. Plus the games too.
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>>25918418

Serious as in genuine you dumb fuck, as opposed to comical like when Team Rocket gets shocked and fly away covered in soot.

Suddenly impact in fights is a bad thing and "edgy."
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>>25917375
I was trying to figure out why this guy makes me have nightmarish flashbacks... then I remembered...
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>>25918341
I really can't see what's the problem here, lots of other anime do this dbz thing you call with the craters and lasers, naruto for example a show hat was supposedly be about ninjas now it's just a clusterfuck of fillers and dbz tier battles. Then again I have no problem with these dbz tier fights without them anime would be boring ass ugu~ kawaii shit.
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>>25918433
I think we both know what edge means ands I'm using it correctly here. Over the top action shit with explotions everywhere and people flying into rock creating craters is edgy. But never mind that. Let's just call it over the top. I don't like it being so over the top.
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>>25917266
why do i suddenly want to quit pokemon forever
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>>25918382
>I have the high ground!
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>>25918512

It's fucking Pokemon. It's always been over the top. They just didn't have the budget to give the fights impact, so it was all stills on LSD backgrounds.

Moreover it's fucking anime. MS only got away with grounded fights because the animation budget carried it. Otherwise it wouldn't just be grounded, it would be fucking boring.
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>>25918492
Its not sudden. Its how edgy has been applied in 4chan culture for a long time now.

I'm not interested in arguing semantics. You say serious as in genuine. I'll take that as your argument. The anime has had genuine fights dating back to the first season. It hasn't all been goofy team rocket scenes. That hasn't changed at all. You still get the same mix. Its just that the coreography has changed. Back then they intended some fights to be serious...they just sucked. Now they are making the fights over the top to make it more exciting.
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>>25918512

"Edgy" doesn't mean jack shit. Edgy is another way of saying you don't have an actual criticism, so you'll imply that this thing appeals to a lower denominator than you.

Attacks having a satisfying impact isn't fucking edgy. Not in a series about magical monsters who trade attacks.
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>>25918511
OK that's fine. You like that style, I don't. IMO, the best anime action is more grounded. I'll invoke my 08th ms team vs gundam seed example again to illustrate my POV. Of course I wouldn't expect pokemon to be as gorie or feature the same adult themes as 08th ms but I'd prefer intense but still somewhat grounded battles.
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>>25918492
>he never watched the first movie
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>>25918597

>if it's not 8th ms team it's shit

you're trying too hard to look mature. very edgy of you.
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>>25918546
Well pokemon has the budget now. They can afford intense but grounded fights. Its just a matter of stylistic choice at this point
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>>25918588
Actually by definition it can mean tense, excessively defined, provocative, qualities of intensity or excitement. Depending on where you get your definition. The term has a loose definition but there's a common meaning its used here on 4chan. Semantics asside, I definitely has definitive criticisms you can attack like the excessive explosions, charging up supa saiyan style, every attack sending the opponent catapulting through the air at ridiculous speed into rock forming craters. You've chosen to take issue with my use of edgy and draw that out instead of those points I made.
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>>25918615
>Well pokemon has the budget now

No it doesn't. It has a higher budget, but it's still stretched out over 200 episodes. Their budget isn't even much higher, the just learned to use a 3D camera.

MS team was "grounded" because everything moved slow as fuck, because everything was a 10 story robot. That doesn't work for this series about small magical creatures who have literally the same over the top powers in the games.

You sound like some fucking kid who just saw a gundam ms ova for the first time and now you think you're an anime connoisseur, claiming everything should be like that.
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>>25918612
Now you're misusing the term. Also a logical fallacy as I never said it had to be 08th ms. I'm simply invoking it to illustrate my points.
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>>25917452

>Two nukes weren't enough
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>>25918683
What the fuck are they sing with the budget? With all the money tpci is racking in they should have the best animation and quality for anime at this point. My theory is they're holding back until they finish the6th gen anime and then they're going all out with their budget next anime season.
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>>25918680

I'm not defending excessive explosions, I'm just saying it's not "edge," it's budget management. Charging up is build up and the attack is release. It's satisfying. It sounds to me like you don't watch the show and are just drawing conclusions from webms, because not every attack is like that, the attacks that are just tend to be the most satisfying and get made into webms.
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>>25918683
You're being emotional and attempting to attack my character, intentions, and credibility because I have a varying opinion. Calm down.

A few posts back someone, I assume you, mentioned pokemkns higher animation budget has allowed them to make more intense action scenes and now you say better 3d motion. There's no legit reason IMO why they can't use those resources to make good 3d action scenes with a bit scaled down on the explosions, over the top blasts, and sending characters into walls. I think you're making excuses instead of just saying you like this battle choreography, which is fine. Its a personal preference. I don't like gurren lagan for example while many on 4chan love it. I'm not a fan of that kind of action style. I've seen a lot of anime BTW, let's just stop the dumb "you've just seen the 08th ms ova" bullshit
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>>25917392
Some chapters get more budget than others.
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>>25918768
Sending characters into walls of rock creating craters is over the top. No way around it. These aren't even legendary battles. Its becoming more and more common. I understand its animals shooting fireballs and shit and there should be some suspension of believe. You and I just disagree on how grounded it should be.
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>>25918806

>higher animation budget has allowed them to make more intense action scenes and now you say better 3d motion

It's both you dipshit. The budget is higher, but not high enough to consistently deliver ova tier animation, which is where techniques come into play.

Why SHOULD they scale down the action? What you're implying is that over the top action is inherently bad, because if it's not appropriate for Pokemon then when the fuck is it?
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>>25918768
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>>25918888

Over the top =/= edgy.

It's a series where creatures fucking regularly hurl boulders, lightning bolts, tornadoes and meteors at each other, or just smash into each other at mach speed. And at worst they get briefly knocked out. What fucking part of that is supposed to be grounded?
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>>25918941
Why are you sperging out and throwing out ad hom?

So my criticism is that the scenes are over the top to which someone brought up animation Budget being better than the past when they couldn't afford to make action scenes with as much 3d and intensity. So I argued that point. Now it seems you're saying its the budget is neither here nor there. Fine.

So your latest point; that over the top intensity isnt inhetently bad. OK.jpg. its not inherently good. Are you implying it is?
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>>25919096

Because you're an insipid faggot and your posting style reeks of reddit.

The budget was brought up to point out that the show has always been over the top, but now has the budget to really run with it. That doesn't mean the budget is unlimited, just finally sufficient for their purposes.

I'm not saying it's inherently good, I'm saying it's good in this show. And my original point is it isn't "edgy" but thankfully you've dropped that idiotic notion.
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>>25919005
The part where not every pokemon is arceus or rayquaza. They can't all have super saiyan abilities.

That argument I hope has some level of limitation in your mind or does it not? Should pokemon descend into throwing galaxies at eachother because they already can spit fire at each other?

I know ashime fans won't concede anything to Origins but I preferred the battle scenes in it. The Pokemon were drawn better and it was sufficiently intense without going way over the top. Never mind the type matchups and such fuckery. Try to compartmentalize the argument.
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>>25919154
But Eevee doesn't have a Mega yet, still a fucking qt though
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>>25919154
>reddit
>ad hom
Typical sperg outburst here.

OK so now your point is they've always been or intended to be over the top. OK. I don't like that its as over the top as it is now. What emotional response do you have do you have now for me criticising the beloved ashime?
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>>25919165

>Origins
>this >>25917653 is "grounded"/not over the top

You gotta be fucking with me.
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>>25919220

Sounds to me like you just reduced your entire argument to a meaningless "I don't like it," which is clearly all it was in the first place. Come back when you have an actual criticism.
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>>25919225
You notice how this is a battle between a legendary and a mega. That punch sends mewtwo flying,not even as fast as the pokemon sent flying in the scenes from the ashime between less powerful mons. The rock has no crater and mewtwo looks very fatigued/hurt from what just happened. I'd admit that this is bordering on what I've been talking about and even then, this is more grounded than what happens in the ashime. Never mind this being the series finale.

The battle between charmander and squirtle was perfect in scale for first stage low level pokemon. It was still very intense because it was gritty.
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>>25919314
I don't like the over the top action scenes in the ashime. That's been my argument since the beginning. Were you unaware that these were opinions? Why'd you get so worked up? Both of our arguments boil down to I like it/ I don't like it. Welcome to every thread ever, welcome to the human reality of differences of preferences and opinions. Try not to get so triggered in the future.
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>>25919339

What exactly are you referring to? Greninja vs Sceptile? Two fully evolved Pokemon, with one using essentially a mega form? Maybe you mean the battles with the legendary birds? Please point me to the webm that's too over the top.

>the rock has no crater

You need to get your eyes checked.
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>>25919380

My argument is that it's an over the top series, which warrants over the top battles. Your argument is it needs to be 08th MS team grounded because you personally think so.
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>>25917551
Fuck this episode. How could they ruin a god tier scene from the manga like that?
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>>25919386
Those are cracks. If you want to be smug, why don't you look up the definition of crater.

>>25917453
Case in point.
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>>25918228
Please tell me the Kanto legendary track from XY plays here.
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>>25919429
So your argument is that it is what it is? Thanks for reminding me. Yes my argument is I don't like the over the top battles. Yes it is an opinion. Never have I framed it as an argument over scientific fact. Its silly IMO that this often becomes the argument of people on here that don't like someone else' opinion
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>>25919475
>High jump kick
>Coming off stab
>onto a normal type
Makes perfect sense to me.
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>>25919475

It's a fucking dent on the same level as the one you linked. Again, those are two strong mons, one using his most powerful attack, super effective, against a small opponent. The animation is perfectly warranted.

And attacks can look dramatic no matter how powerful they are.
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>>25919589
There is no dent just a crack.

In the ashime example, you have low leveled, not very powerful mons sending their opponents at high speed flying into walls. I don't care about the type advantages. Its just a way to make the battle more intense. Same with the zard mewtwo scene but again, at least that's between a mega and a legendary.
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>>25919519

If you're going to assert your opinion you should substantiate it with more than just the fact that it's your opinion. You obviously care enough to keep arguing it, but you don't actually have the means to convince anyone.
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>>25919589
Maybe I'm a faggot but I couldn't help hearing Naruto sound effects.
>Kunai deflecting
>Rasengan
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>>25919655

>low level

What the fuck are you talking about? They are not low level at all. You're just further proving you don't watch the show.

>I don't care about the type advantages

And now you're proving you don't even know or care about the source material, which makes your argument even weaker.
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>>25919706

No that's definitely what they were going for.
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>>25919663
There's no convincing people here. You said I'm from reddit but only a newfag would think people argue opinions with the assumption they are going to change hearts and minds.

You think I need facts to back up whats purely a preference? Im not the one who brought up budgets BTW. I was always just stating my opinion and backed it up with observations of how the anime battle scenes are.
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>>25919713
OK what level range are we looking at? They should be around lv 35 going off of the in game levels. No I don't watch the anime
>watching the anime

The type advantages are just a contrived excuse for why some level 35ish mons with not particularly high bsts are sending each other into walls at high velocity. Zard vs mewtwo should be in the 70s BTW, its post game
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>>25919800
I was going to say game mechanic=/= anime canon but then I remembered Origins was weirdly trying to play by the game's rules.
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>>25919748

If you don't care what people think then why are you still arguing? You're obviously trying to convince someone but all you have is "in my opinion" with nothing substantial to back it up, such as context or source material. Your observations of how it is in no way serve your argument of how it should be, according to you.

>>25919800

Who the fuck says that a Pokemon can't slam another Pokemon into a wall at level 35? What kind of arbitrary bullshit is that? They are both strong and their attacks are strong. Both shows only loosely interpret levels.

Hawlucha's HJK against a Heliolisk would do way more damage than Zard's mega punch against a Mewtwo. What the fuck is your logic here? That higher BST means a Pokemon slams into a wall harder?
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>>25919981
Why are you arguing back? Same reason. Do you think you're going to convince me to agree with you? Doubt it.

Hawlucha does more damage or relatively more in this case? I think it make sense to have more intense effects if the battles are between high level pokes, megas, or legendaries, pokemon with higher stats in general. I prefer lower level mons have fights more in line with origins charmander v squirtle

Now your logic: who the fuck says a pokemon can slam another pokemon into a wall at lv 35? What kind of arbitrary bullshit is that?

>opinion not being arbitrary
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>>25919981
Mate, just let it be. It's clear that you have already won this argumentation and these kids are just damage controlling. They barely even know how to have an argumentation by the looks of their posts.
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Sure stinks of fedora in here.
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Why are you arguing so strongly about what you've already recognized as opinions? One thinks over-the-top animation is appropriate for Pokémon battles, the other doesn't, there is no need to try and convince each other about either viewpoint.

Anyone got a webm of the end of Ash vs Olympia? That shit always hypes me up.
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>>25920162

I try to make my arguments convincing regardless. An opinion that's purely arbitrary is fucking worthless. You should learn that before posting on 4chan, or defaulting to "muh opinion" when you're clearly trying to be convincing.

Hawlucha and Heliolisk are not Charmander and Squirtle, who were babies fresh out of Oak's lab at that point. The former are far beyond that and there was nothing unreasonable about that fight going by either ashnime or origins standards.
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>>25920307
I'm the one arguing that I don't like the over the top style and I completely agree. Only reason I'm arguing at this point is that the other anon still is and has consistently used ad hom and still wants to pretend he has some high road because I'm stating my opinion and he's stating that its just an opinion. I know its juevanile but I'm waiting for my clothes to dry anyway.
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>>25920162
Not him but when legendaries battles and they blow up whole islands it's fair that a SE stab HJK makes it fly into the wall...

You really don't have anything to go with since you're trying to argue against a source material you clearly have very little knowledge about and chose to hide behind your opinions since you actually can't back it up with examples. Opinions that are based on very little material. Why do you argue against something you CLEARLY know very little about outside of a few webms? It's idiotic. How immature are you to not understand this?
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>>25917353
>>25917290
triggered
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>>25920368
>there's nothing unreasonable about...
Arbitrary statement. You're just trying to maintain some notion of arguing from a higher tier but ultimately the other anon is right, its just muh opinion vs muh opinion plus go back to rebbit and you should learn x before arguing opinions with me kid.
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>>25917702
>>25919981
fuck the origins

how do you fuck up this bad?
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>>25920411
I never defended legendaries blowing up islands.

What do I not understand. Eluscidate me.
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>>25920466
Better than the ashime for what it's worth. Bretty good for a 4 episode montage IMO. The Giovanni battle though is full of Gen 1 mechanics wizardy they should've left out though.
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>>25920499
There is no wizardy, it's all bullshit. Being supposed to buy that Red went directly from being 5-1'd by a gym leader to defeating the E4 is worse than everything the anime has ever done.
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>>25920499
>the 4 part mega charizard x commercial is better than ashime
yeah nah
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>>25920555
When Origins came out there was a lot of arguing over the battle. Most of it is explainable by gen 1 mechanics and like I said they should have left it out. I think they wanted to make a point about being true to the games but it just came off as even more ridiculous than if they would have stuck to more predictable sensible moves and matchups
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>>25920624
Mega zard was the last episode. Yeah origins was a promo. Still better than the ashime. Even the cubone episode did the story part of the anime better than the ashime.
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>>25920449

I fucking explained that it's reasonable based on their relative strength, the context, and the battle style in both shows. You're arguing they should just be wriggling around and bitchslapping each other like two level 5 starters, despite Heliolisk fucking up a minimum level 50 Goodra. Apparently small Pokemon = weak. Apparently you don't even play the games.

>>25920468

>I never defended legendaries blowing up islands

You mean like how Rayquaza shatters a meteor in the games? Which you don't play?
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>>25920629
How do you explain a Rhyhorn one-shotting a Jolteon with Thunderbolt by gen 1 mechanics?
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>>25920693
Relax. So then they should lie somewhere in between. They aren't lv 5 but they aren't high bst competitively trained lv 70s either.

You think their relative strength of attacks should dictate their effect in anime. I think a component of their relative strength compared to higher level mons should count too.

Rayquaza being one of the utmost strongest pokes. Also not blowing up an island. Also not anything I advocated.
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>>25920697
Shit man. Level difference. Crits. Its a stretch which is why I didn't like the fuckery they did with that battle. They should have stuck to common expectations.
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>>25920887
>>Level difference.
Then level difference the opposite way to justify how Charizard defeated Rhyhorn with Seismic Toss?
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>>25920887
Cont:

For instance, I think its way too convenient that his rhyhorn knows thunder or thunder bolt.
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>>25920932
*Rhydon, sorry
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>>25920932
I guess. Red seemed to be the kind of trainer who has his starter at lv 65 while his other pokemon are at lv 40. We agree that battle was dumb. The ashime does shit like that often too. Its lame to me in either case
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>>25920868

Slamming a small lizard into a wall is not a huge feat of strength, especially when Pokemon already have inhuman strength. It's completely in line with the source material. As is legendaries blowing up giant masses of land.

>anything I advocated

You mean advocating something different from the series entirely.
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>>25920977
That's hyperbolic like my criticism of the fights. I don't like over the top action scenes so I don't like pokemon at all because its animals shooting fire and shit. I just think there should be some grounding. Especially in the anime where lower leveled weaker mons don't look right pulling off feats god like pokemon are doing. I don't think it makes good world building and it tends to power sink in nearly every series I've seen do these kinds of things. They always gotta up the ante
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>>25920965

It wouldn't work at those levels either. Neither would Charizard taking a Hydro Pump to the face. The whole thing shat all over Pokemon mechanics despite marketing itself as faithful to the source material. The ashnime at least embraces the freedom from rigid game mechanics and does interesting things with it, instead of just adhering to them half-assedly and thus failing to deliver as both an adaptation and an original show.
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>>25921014

They don't. I showed you a webm of lower level mons here >>25919589 The attacks are dramatically animated, but they're not disproportionately strong.

You said yourself that you don't watch the show so you are arguing about something you clearly don't understand.
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>>25917290
I don't get it

Buizel?
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>>25921074
That battle is fine. I never said all the battles are like that.
>>25921028
Agreed the zard x shilling is real. Happens to greater degree in the ashime
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>>25921106

>greater degree in the ashime

Are you joking? All of Origins was a big Charizard circlejerk. Zard shat on everything and none of the other mons mattered or got attention. It was built around shilling one mon.

The ashnime at least shills other Pokemon equally or more.
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>>25917453
so...what was heliolisk's plan?
making a spooky face, screaming and win?
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>>25918166
This, also Yu Yu Hakusho and Ken.
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>>25918492
fucking lucario
when will it be banned from the anime for some controversial episode
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>>25918768
but moltres has won :^)
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>>25921076
Ash already owns buizel. Same with Ash already seeing a Gardevoir above.
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>>25919154
charizard's such a manlet kek
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>>25920965
>implying overlevelled starter babies using evolution stones on just caught low levelled pokemon isn't the most common thing that happens
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>>25923968

He tried to cop a feel on Audino
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>>25917266
>mfw Bamco could do a Pokémon Idolm@ster game and sell gorillions
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>>25923840
it was going to use flash, but ash realized because of heliolisk's frills that it takes a second to aim before using any attack, so he waited for heliolisk to get close and used hawlucha's speed to attack it in the right moment
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>>25917266
what has pokemon become
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>BW got better ratings than XY
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>>25920887
>Level 100 Rhyhorn Thunderbolt vs. Level 34 Jolteon on a critical hit: 103-122 (87.2 - 103.3%) -- 23.1% chance to OHKO
Level difference is an understatement.
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>>25924197
Now I want this
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>>25925128
Plus Jolteon has Volt absorb, so did they just decide to ignore that or pretend it had Quick Feet?
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>>25917525
>swift
>missing
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>>25925151
We're talking about gen 1 here, so it has nothing.
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>>25925171
But Mega Ev... you know what? You're probably right.
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>>25917353
How the fuck doesn't Ash know what a Charmander is by now?
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>>25925206
B/W anime sucks dick.
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>>25917266
Elle's performance was such bullshit. I know this meant to be Serena's bif event but they should have at least made her opponent's be as well animated as hers to justify her loss rather than glance over it like some bullshit.
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>>25925206
Just because he checks what the pokédex has to say about a pokémon doesn't mean he doesn't know it, anon, pokédex entries change over time.
He actually recognized it in the episode.
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>>25918512
You are not using the word edgy right you dumbshit
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>>25925180
>gen 3 designs
>gen 1 battle mechanics
>but gen 6 mega evo
:^)
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>>25918282
>g gundam or gundam seed

both look like shit, what's your point?
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Anyone got the kunoichi ninja Bonnie/Eureka ones?
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>>25925129
Yeah, I bet you do, faggot.
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>>25917266
All this good animation
Wasted on contest bullshit.
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>>25927853
Face it, Anon. This is the era of Idolshit : Cincerella Girls, Love Live, Aikatsu, PriPara... The list goes on.
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>>25927937
They could at least have done a decent choreography. The animation is well done but the showcase itself looks like shit.
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>>25917266
jesus christ
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>>25927955
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>>25917290
>Ash owns both Buizel and Corphish
>Still needs to use Pokedex

He also used his Pokedex on a Charmender
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>>25917698
>Type advantage
Only with Talonflame and it seems Wulfric's mons know Stone Edge.

>Greninja
Abomasnow
>Pikachu
Abomasnow
>Hawlucha
Weak to Ice
>Noivern
lel

Wulfrice even said it himself, this match is either going to be very difficult or a cakewalk
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>>25919165
>They can't all have super saiyan abilities.
I hope you don't think anything we've seen here reaches that level. I mean, compared to Dragonball as a whole that's probably kid goku tiers of power.
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>>25919800
>Zard vs mewtwo should be in the 70s BTW, its post game
>gen 1
>70
You'd be lucky if Charizard was 50 let alone 70.
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>>25925168
>>missing
It got deflected back.
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>>25927937
What a great time to be alive.
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>>25927937
Eh, they're the shovelware of anime so they aren't indicative of a generation.
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>>25928341
Hawlucha has a massive advantage over Abomasnow as Flying Press inflicts STAB x4 damage on it.
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>>25928224
It's more a BW problem than an Ash problem. May, Dawn and Serena all have pokedexes, so in cases like that one, where Ash would have no reason to scan it, they would get the new girl to scan it instead. With BW, the only person with a pokedex was Ash. It didn't matter to begin with, since Ash doesn't know anything about Unova pokemon, but then the old pokemon started reappearing, and Ash was still scanning them, because nobody else could. If they had given Iris or Cilan a pokedex, it would've made sense for them to scan the older pokemon, since they wouldn't know much about them, but they didn't, so you end up with stupid shit like that, instead.
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>>25917266
>the socks on Braixen
Fuck you OP, i don't wanna be a furfag!
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>>25917266
episode?
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>>25929446
XY&Z16.
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>>25917452
>paycheck tiiiiime
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>>25929485
>XY&Z16
thanks
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>>25919738
When did the anime get so damn GOOD?
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>>25929868
Two years and a half ago.
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>>25917290
It's for the kids obviously, and his new pokedex.
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>>25919713
Jesus Christ, just shut up and suspend your disbelief, you fucking numbskulls. It's a TV show about supernatural cockfighting, it's not worth arguing over.
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