Create a Mega for a Shitmon (Nothing higher than RU) without giving it a new ability or creating a new move for it. Don't use abilities that are obviously signature abilities like Parental Bond. Try to avoid the usual suspects like Huge Power, Magic Guard, etc.
Can you do it?
Let's see...
Mega Ledian
Type:Bug/Fairy
HP:55->80
Sp.Atk:55->90
Sp.Def:110->150
Gains the pair of arms out lost when it evolved and becomes a real starlight kind of fairy creature. Gains Aerialate. Also learns Moonlight for fucks sake.
>>25904190
>special attack boost
>has iron fist and punch moveset
Holy shit, you're retarded
>>25904190
You clearly didn't read the post did you?
Mega tangrowth
Regenerator
+20
+40
+20
+20
+0
>>25904256
>Moonlight ladybug
>Punching
The entire physical move set confuses me, it's spatk is almost twice it's atk.
>>25904257
Fine, no new ability. But moonlight stays, you fun killer.
>>25904257
i think new ability means novel ability, as in special snowflake ability, like what Stingulor got recently
>>25903227
Klinklang
Steel
Technician
Attack +25
Defense +15
Special Attack +10
Special Defense +15
Speed +35
Mega Ninetales
(Regular Ninetales can now learn shadowball through level up/TM)
Type: Fire/Ghost
Atk: 76 - 46
Def: 75 - 95
Sp.atk: 81 - 161
Sp.def: 100 - 115
Spd: 100 - 115
Ability: Intolerable Flames
(Fire Type attacks are not affected by ability or resistances under the sun.)
No new shit?
Solar Power: sp.atk raised by 1.5 under the sun at the cost of HP.
Basically a better version of Zard-Y, but still balanced since T-Tar can shit on it pretty easily.
Clawitzer
Adaptability
Water (/Ice?)
HP- 71
Atk- 73 (0)
Def- 110 (+22)
SpAtk- 180 (+60)
SpDef- 110 (+21)
Spe- 80 (+21)
Give it access to Flash Cannon, Aurora Beam, Breath, and Hydro Pump as well. Why the hell didn't it already have Hydro Pump as a Water Type Special Attacker?
>Wheezing-Mega
>Ability: Levitate
>HP 65
>Atk 90
>Def 100(-10)
>SpA 165(+80)
>SpD 60(-10)
>Spe 100(+40)
Already gets a good few special moves, including a lot of Fire moves, Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, and T-Bolt. Keep Levitate to prevent 4x Ground, raise SpA and Spe to make a special sweeper.
>>25904507
Shit, also meant to put
>Type: Poison/Fire
>>25904502
I just remembered it can already learn Flash Cannon.
>>25904190
Mega Ledian:
Type: Bug/Fighting
Ability: Iron Fist
HP: 55
Atk: 35 > 115
Def: 50 > 70
Sp.Atk: 55 > 25
Sp.Def: 110 > 90
Speed: 85 > 135
Now learns Fire Punch, Shadow Punch and Sky Uppercut
Escavalier
Does the poke lose the mega stone when evolving? If so, Unburden. If not, Heatproof.
Stats stay almost the same but +100 Speed.
Learns some recovery move, maybe slack off because it's a snail.
Might be too good.
Mega Chimecho
SpAtt +75
SpDef +50
Psychic/Fairy (0x Dragon, .25x Fighting, .5x Psychic, 2x Poison Ghost Steel)
Chimecho now learns Moonblast naturally and Overheat from TM
Similar appearance, but four scarfs instead of one. Gold bell, white body leading into gold trim instead of pink.
>>25904556
You've made him into a slightly worse Scyther. Bravo.
>>25904190
>boosting hp
>boosting special attack on ledian
You gotta learn some shit, man.
>>25904276
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>25904502
>loses mega launcher
>adaptability on a monotype
Haha holy shit, that's bad.
>>25904579
>plus 100 speed
>that's it
Try to be at least a little realistic, my man.
>>25904643
Alright, +60 Speed, -20 SpA, +30 Defense, +30 SpD
>>25904630
Bug/Fighting is leagues ahead of Bug/Flying.
>>25903227
Mega Steelix 2.0
Atk: 85->145(+60)
Def: 200->220(+20)
SpD: 65->85(+20)
Magnet Pull
Mega Golem
Atk:110->130(+30)
Def:130->90(-40)
SpA:55->105(+50)
SpD:45
Spe:45->105(+60)
Gains Shell Smash
>>25903227
>Without giving it a new Ability or creating a new move for it
How bout go fuck yourself?
>Mega Heliolisk
>Electric/Fire
>Generate (Electric -ate)
HP: +0 (62)
Att: +0 (55)
Def: +33 (85)
SpA: +35 (144)
SpD: +10 (104)
Spd: +22 (131)
Learns Overheat
Mega Vespiquen:
Ability: Conquest
"Automatically puts the opponent under an 'infestation' status."
HP: 70
Atk: 90
Def: 142
SpA: 90
SpD: 142
Spe: 40
The idea is to lock the opponent in an infestation and spam Defend Order until you become a near impenetrable wall together with Heal Order.
How the fuck do you save a PU Ice Pokemon?
>>25904827
Alternatively Shadow Tag or Arena Trap if you want to play by OP's gay rules.
>>25904838
Give them Sniper and a nice speed upgrade to let them dish out high power Frost Breath that penetrates defense upgrades.
>>25904879
Technician would be better, it gives the same boost to Frost Breath in addition to boosting Water Pulse and Hidden Power, which are its only coverage options
>>25904678
All you did was cover his rock weakness. He still has a 4x weakness and unlike Scyther, he cannot just use an Eviolite.
>>25904643
Making Ledian a Physical attacker is like making M-Flygon a SpAtker. It goes against what we already know about the Pokemon and might as well be a new one.
Mega Sandslash
Ground/Rock
Sand Rush
HP: +0 (75)
Att: +40 (140)
Def: +10 (120)
SpA: +0 (45)
SpD: +25 (80)
Spd: +25 (90)
>>25903227
Mega Lumineon
Water/Fairy
Ability: Storm Drain
Atk 69 -> 59 (-10)
Def 76 -> 116 (+50)
Sp Atk 69 -> 99 (+30)
Sp Def 86 -> 146 (+60)
Spe 91 -> 61 (-30)
Gets access to Moonlight and Dazzling Gleam
>>25904954
literally excadrill
>>25905003
I didn't know Excadrill could beat Rotom-W and has 90 base Speed.
+2 252+ Atk Sandslash Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 261-307 (86.1 - 101.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Even if you don't have Rocks up it switches in on the Swords Dance and takes about the same amount of damage from one turn of Sand.
>>25904975
You're gonna dump 30 points into a stat so that it can have a whopping 99 SpA? Besides U-Turn does it really even have that good of a physical movepool? It's probably best to stick to just Att or SpA buffs. I'm leaning toward SpA for Ice Beam.
Also I saw this pretty cool concept art for M-Lumineon on here a few days ago, it looked like a rumble fish. I'll try and find it.
>>25904975
>>25904756
This is plain stupid.
>>25905106
Excadrill CAN beat Rotom-W. Easily. It has a thing called Mold Breaker. And the only thing you gain with the extra points is the ability to outspeed other Excadrill
Basically it's a less versatile Excadrill
>>25904616
Why exactly are you giving this thing +125 to its stats? You need to at least remove 25 from somewhere else first.
>>25905178
Explain why.
>Partially based on a solar panel, which use the sun to, wait for it, generate electricity
>Evolves by Sun Stone
>Design looks incomplete and has a Normal subtyping for no discernible reason
>>25905180
Stupid me, naturally I thought you were referring to Sand Rush Excadrill seeing as you said it's literally Excadrill. You're aware pokemon can only have one Ability at once, right? It's either losing its ability to go fast or it's hitting pokemon with Levitate and Multiscale.
>>25905193
it's normal/electric because it doesn't have any electricity generating organs like pikachu does, it has an electricity conversion system that works like photosynthesis. this takes 30 seconds of critical thinking to derive
>>25905204
that's why it's less versatile, with vanilla excadrill you have three viable options for abilities (and items), whereas your theoretical pokemon not only has just the one ability, but is 90% similar to Excadrill, that would be like me making a Mega Flygon with Rough Skin and literally making it Garchomp, which I guess could work if you wanted to run get around species clause for whatever reason.
I'm all for Mega Sandslash but as it is, you would be much better off just making a Mega Excadrill.
>>25905220
I was just pointing out how silly it was of you to compare a Sand Rush Mega to Excadrill, and then when I point out a pokemon that counters SR Excadrill, you bring up its other Ability.
And the cherry on top of the whole thing is that the Mega Sandslash above has the capabilities as BOTH Mold Breaker and Sand Rush Excadrill. That is, going doubly fast under Sand AND being able to beat Rotom-W with a high BP neutral STAB attack.
>>25905205
I might have dignified this with a counter argument if you hadn't only addressed like 1/3rd of my argument.
Mega Kingler
Type: Water
Ability: Mold Breaker
Atk 130 -> 155 (+25)
Def 115 -> 125 (+10)
Sp Atk 50 -> 50 (+0)
Sp Def 50 -> 85 (+35)
Spe 75 -> 105 (+30)
Now learns Dragon Dance
>>25905321
dragon dance is a move for crayfish, not crabs
>>25905332
If Tropius, Scrafty, and Wishcash can learn it, so can Kingler
>>25905353
those are all crayfish
>malamar NU
Type: dark/ghost
Ability: contrary
Stats: attack, Sp.D, and speed
gains access to some ghost-type moves like shadow sneak, shadow claw, astonish, and confuse ray
>>25904827
That might be too strong.
Infestation is in a weird place where you don't want to waste a turn on it, since it would only work well on a tanky bug and there's a grand total of 1 of those, but the move itself is actually extremely good.
Getting it for free might be too powerful, especially if it's permanent.
What if it applied it, but it only lasted for 2-3 turns instead of the usual 4-5 or the possible infinite? That might be less absurd. Otherwise, it's basically a better Shadow Tag that lasts after Vespiqueen faints and also deals quite good DPS.
>>25905404
it's not that it might be too strong, it's definitely too strong
every time it switches in it activates Shadow Tag on top of DoT
Mega Emboar should either become a fucking tank, or bullshit stromg
![250px-154Meganium[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/HtysqhM.jpg "250px-154Meganium[1].png")
Mega Meganium when?
>>25905557
in the upcoming johto remakes
>>25904363
move the mega symbol to be coming out of the smokestack and that design would be perfect
>>25905392
>tropius
>>25905321
Why Mold Breaker? I like what you've got going, but I'm not sure how useful that would actually be?
Forgive me for minmaxing to all hell but it's fucking luvdisc. Cut me some slack.
Mega Luvdisc
Type: Water/Ice
Ability: Regenerator
Atk 30 -> 30
Def 55 -> 35 (-20)
Sp Atk 40 -> 140 (+100)
Sp Def 65 -> 45 (-20)
Spe 97 -> 137 (+40)
A cold heart.
>>25906579
> 35/45 defenses
> Regenerator
atleast it wont die to hazards
>>25906441
What do you think would be better? To be honest, I kinda picked it because I was drawing a bit of a blank.
Just kinda seemed like a decent thing to default to.
What if Hustle instead, take a few points off attack and def and put them in speed, then give it hone claws instead of dragon dance?
>>25906612
that's the point.
A fast special attacking ice type that can routinely check things.
>>25906622
Tough Claws or Intimidate
>>25906622
>>25906655
Second in Tough Claws. Kingler needs love. And not only does it not have a secondary typing to justify Adaptability, I don't think anyone wants two Adaptability crab-esque pokemon. Crabhammer all day, every day.
>Mega Torterra
>grass/ground
>dry skin
95 -> 95
109 -> 139
105 -> 145
75 -> 85
85 -> 105
56 -> 56
Basically a souped up version of what it is now. It'd at least break into RU since it's slow enough to work on a trick room team which are pretty common there to my understanding. It's a consistent hazard setter that's a hard counter for mega Steelix as well as a check for mega Camerupt and a good answer to most variants of Sharpedo. Doesn't provide a whole lot of opportunity cost to use either, considering most megas are locked away in higher tiers.
Mega granbull
Fairy/Dark
Sheer force
Attack+30
def +10
Spdef +30
speed+30
>>25903227
Mega Unfezant (Top 3 mons)
Type: Normal/Flying
HP: 80
Attack: 115 ----> 150
Defense: 80 -----> 105
Sp. Atk: 65
Sp. Def: 55
Speed: 93 ----> 133
Makes it useable, despite it not having access to a good fucking Flying-type move.WHY GAMEDEVS
>>25907001
just do like in blazeblack/voltwhite and change its physical and special stats
>>25906655
>>25906667
I did this months ago
>>25906987
I don't even think the speed boost is worth it, going from 45 to 75 should be a lot, but it's really not unless you can pack a choice-scarf and that's not an option here.
How about....
>Mega Granbull
>Fairy/Ground
>Adaptability
>90/145/100/20/90/105
Adaptability will let it hit like a truck and Fairy/Ground is an incredible STAB combo and fits his current movepool pretty well. Granbull fixed.
>>25907100
Granbull is actually pretty good as-is as a physical wall though
>>25903227
>Try to avoid the usual suspects like Huge Power, Magic Guard, etc.
fuck you man, those are the most fun
>mega anything
>+100 atk
>-x spatk (where x is current spatk-5)
>+x speed
>ability huger power
I really can't think what to do to make it better other than a speed boost. Really speed is what holds it back for me but it can be patched up by team support and speed control.
Maybe someone more creative can try?
>>25907118
In RU maybe, but as a mega, with no access to recovery and no intimidate on the switch-in, he's not going to be taking many hits from any higher tier attackers.
>>25904939
>Making Ledian a Physical attacker is like making M-Flygon a SpAtker. It goes against what we already know about the Pokemon and might as well be a new one.
Mewtwo and Charizard X both become primarily physical attackers despite being special attackers before. Pidgeot got a massive boost to special attack despite it being its lower attacking stat.
That's just switching attacking stats. there's other examples where defensive mons turn into offensive mons.
Also, Ledian and Flygon both have plenty of options for there lower attacking stat.
these need megas
>>25904643
>100hp 165 defense with regenerator
>it's fucking nothing
>>25907130
Tyrantrum only really needs
10-20 + in speed Dragon dance can Cover it and the rest into Attack and Defensive stats
Until they make a rock and Dragon Bite move for it Rock heads is the most logicak
>>25907130
Mega Tyrantrum
Atk: 121 - 141
Def: 119 - 149
Sp.atk: 69 - 69
Sp.def: 59 - 79
Spd: 71 - 101
Ability: Sheer Force
Speed lets him outspeed base 100's, and outspeed anything non scarfed after a DD. Dragon dance becomes more viable with the added bulk, and sheer force adds more power to rock slide, crunch iron head and the fangs.
The added attack somewhat makes up for the lack of a band or life orb, but the stats should at least make him a decent sweeper now.
>>25908642
Or you put more in Attack, so that you have a mon, that only needs Rock Polish to demolish your team. Would be a nice change, if we had a mon, that doesnt use the old "Compine stats buffs to win". This would also open up Speed Boost baton pass for smogon players for this sweeper.
Mega Lanturn
Type: Electric/Water
Ability: Intimidateor any defensive ability like regenerator, I'm open to suggestions.
HP: 125
Atk: 58
Def: 58 -> 108 (+50)
Sp Atk: 76 -> 106 (+30)
Sp Def: 76 -> 96 (+20)
Spe: 67
>>25906579
>hair on a fish
Why
>>25907130
>>25908642
Sheer Force doesn't do anything for Tyrantrum. None of it's moves: EQ, Head Smash, Outrage, Dragon Claw, Superpower, not a single fucking one gets boosted by Sheer Force. Not even Stone Edge. Even Strong Jaw would be better than Sheer Fucking Force unless you're in love with Rock Slide.
It doesn't need a new ability, just let it keep Rock Head
I would just put 30 in its Atk, Def and Spe and the last 10 in SpA (if we're being realistic) or SpD (if we want to do it a favor)
>>25909100
>Has two defensive abilities that give it useful immunities
>disregard both for the sake of voltturn intimidate boners
literally why
>>25905184
Because it suuuuuuucks
>>25911687
so does your mom's vagina
>Mega Magcargo
>Type: Fire/Steel
>Ability: Heatproof
>HP: 50 -> 50
>Attack: 50 -> 50
>Defence: 120 -> 160
>Sp Attack: 80 -> 120
>Sp Defence: 80 ->110
>Speed: 30 -> 20
Mega Accelgor
Bug/Dark
Learns a few more dark moves
Ability: Subterfuge: All attacking moves done by this pokemon are calculated against the defending pokemon's speed stat instead of their defense and special defense stats.
+40 SpA
+20 Speed
+20 defense
+20 special defense
>>25911908
>heatproof
for what purpose
>>25911976
I thought it would be a logical ability for a lava monster. It's not meant to make Magcargo OU just to give it a nice boost.
Mega Donphan
Ground/Steel
Speed Boost
HP: +0 (90)
Att: +40 (160)
Def: +40 (160)
SpA: +0 (60)
SpD: +0 (60)
Spd: +20 (70)
Gains a few hundred pounds.
I guess it's movepool would be something like:
>Earthquake
>Iron Tail/Heavy Slam
>Stealth Rock/Rapid Spin
>Seed Bomb/ Gunk Shot/ Superpower/ Ice Shard
And you can either give it a bulky spread to slowly rack up Speed Boost buffs or an all-out speedy attacker.
Escavalier:
Bug/Steel
Ability: Honor: No non-attacking moves can be used by any pokemon while Escavalier is on the field.
Attack +40 (175)
Defense +30 (135)
Special Defense +30 (135)
Mega Muk
Ability: Simple
+30 Attack
+35 Defense
+35 special defense
Makes him into a pretty gnarly Curse booster.
You can even have him learn some things like Agility or Nasty Plot (Muk has great special coverage options).
>>25912100
why in the everloving fuck would muk get agility?
I might dump a few of these I've thought of because it's just fun!
Mega Drapion
Dark/Poison
Iron Barbs
HP: +0 (70)
Att: +40 (130)
Def: +25 (135)
SpA: +0 (60)
SpD: +25 (100)
Spd: +10 (105)
A bulky attacker with a built-in Rocky Helmet and a balls-to-the-wall defensive Typing.
Mega Escavalier
Ability : Tough Claws
HP : 110 (70 before)
Attack : 170 (135 before)
Defence : 130 (105 before)
Special Attack : 20 (60 before)
Special Defence : 130 (105 before)
Speed : 20
It would be very scary if you can set up a trick room.
Mega Dunsparce
Normal/Fairy
Serene Grace
HP- 100
Atk- 70
Def- 70 + 40 = 110
SpAtk- 65 + 45 = 110
SpDef- 45 + 30 = 75
Spe- 45 -15 = 30
Can now learn Poison Fang, Ice Fang, Fire Fang, Thunder Fang, Moonblast, Moonlight, Misty Terrain, Fairy Lock and Geomancy.
Mega-Forretress
+90 Special defense -> 150 Special Defense
+10 defense -> 150 Defense
Ability: Unaware
Mega Exploud
Ability: Aadaptability
104/91/63/151/73/108
B O O M B U R S T
>>25904190
How do people still not realize Megas don't increase HP?
>>25912386
God,I forgot about that one.
>>25912209
Soo.....
180 Attack and 140 Def and Sp. Defence?
![BagkjNLIcAAOETT[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/z4QE9Fs.png "BagkjNLIcAAOETT[1].png")
HP: 75
Attack: 60 (-30)
Defense: 60 (-80)
Sp. Atk: 170 (+110)
Sp. Def: 60
Speed: 140 (+100)
Ability: Flash Fire :^)
>>25906751
I think a better angle would be to give it a huge Attack buff so it does a shitload of damage unboosted, and give its Mega Multiscale. That way, barring Ice Shard users,Talonflame, and Will o Wisp users, you can pretty much get off a guaranteed Rock Polish and just wreck shit.
ALRIGHT MAGGOTS, THIS THREAD NEEDS A DOSE OF LIBERTY
PRESENTING MEGA BRAVIARY, THE FREEDOM BIRD OF FREEDOM
IMAGINE PIC RELATED, EXCEPT IT'S A BRAVIARY COSPLAYING UNCLE SAM
FIGHTING/FLYINGTHE SECOND MOST POWERFUL AIR FORCE IN THE WORLD IS THE UNITED STATES NAVY
CONTRARYAMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM
100 HPSOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE
143 ATKMORE POWER IS MORE POWER
125 DEFTHE UNITED STATES SPENDS MORE ON DEFENSE THAN THE NEXT EIGHT COUNTRIES COMBINED
57 SP. ATKLOL
105 SP. DEFALSO, BULKY = FAT
80 SPEEDTHIS IS WHAT TAILWIND IS FOR
>>25904337
Man fuck Stingulor.
>>25904838
Make its mega ice/ghost
Mega cacturn
Moxie
+40 to atk and sp atk
+20 to speed
>>25913485
That is the ultimate in terms of OC that you could make for mightyena, just short of "Manifest Hearts"
Im not bitching at your build idea, I'm bitching at the image.
Mega Nidoking
Poison Ground
Ability: Sheer Force
HP: 81
Attack: 127
Defense: 87
Sp.Atk: 130
Sp.Def: 85
Speed: 95
Total: 605
Thoughts? Some people wanted to change the ability for Adaptability or Huge Power, in which case they wanted to boost Sp. Atk. more and decrease Atk (so that with Huge Power both Attack and Sp. Attack paired up), essentially buffing my original stats/idea.
>>25914813
I think game freak want it to be a Physical attacker
Judging from the Attack buff in XY no matter how superior special king is
Adaptabilitys good but to easy
>>25914936
Well he was originally supposed to be a Physical Attacker. Honestly, Gamefreak could just fix that issue with either giving him more Physical moves with secondary effects.
Thought a pokemon made of ice consistently covered in snow should evolve into a glacier pokemon. The ice cream shape is easy to change into a mountain shape by changing how much snow is covering Vanilluxe.
Made the cones look wider and mountainous, so that Vanilluxe looks like an iceberg or reflect how mountains change isostasy.
The ice cream theme can still be applied with this new mountain theme by making the heads look partially melted and having the snow look old and muddy. I tried to down play how Vanilluxe looks like ice cream while still furthering the concept, so that both people that dislike and like Vanilluxe can enjoy the mega.
But most importantly, the mountain idea also opens up the possibility of Vanilluxe getting coverage moves (Muddy Water, Mud Shot, Power Gem, Earth Power, etc.) and a second type.
For an ability, perhaps Snow Warning because >muh orographic lift
>>25913370
>2016
>still disliking stingulor
>>25917334
Love it
>>25906579
I think luvdisc needs an evolution before you give it a mega
