So now that the dust has settled, what is /vp/'s opinion on this?
Get rid of Garbodor's ears.
Get rid of Vanillite and make Vanillish/Vanilluxe a 2-stage.
What's with all the rapid fire half-assed bait threads tonight?
I'm personally not a big fan of trubbish/garbodor
but vanilite (sp) is cute!!
>>25887061
>So now that the dust has settled
No.
>>25887082
who gives a shit about evo levels
>>25887061
I'm indifferent to the Trubbish line, but I love the Vanillite line! Easily my favorite Ice-Types
>>25887061
Suffer from what most fakemon suffer. Great early form with lackluster evos.
anyone else kinda wanna lick vanille haha
>>25887061
DELETE THIS.
Trubbish is my favorite Poison type because it's cute and garbage, just like me. Garbodor is OK but definitely uglier. I like the Vanillite line a lot, but I wish the stat spread wasn't so unfocused.
They're from my favourite gen so I have a soft spot for them. They're not that great, though.
>>25887061
I think for what it is, the Vanilluxe line is pretty well designed and looks good, I just think it's subject matter is fucking dumb.
Garbodor is irredeemable
>>25887061
>>25887061
Love em
>>25887061
Pokémon that, I added to my collection.
>>25887238
What does, a comma do?
>>25887238
Richard pls go
Garbodor is a good idea done kind of lazily considering the blank space on its body, vanillite is great design imo
>>25887153
you know cause it's an ice cream haha
>Garbodor/Trubbish
If they were going for a repulsive trash monster unaware of its own repulsiveness, then spot on. I notice the mouth is unnaturally high on Garbodor's face for some reason.
>Vanillite/Vanillish/Vanilluxe
I don;t have a problem with an ice cream Pokemon, because I love ice cream and Pokemon. That said, all three of them are desperately looking for another theme they can merge themselves with, like some sort of animal. Maybe Tortoises or Snails.
>>25887061
Garbodor is great and a welcome addition the the Pollution 'Mons (Muk line, Weezing line).
I'm not a big fan of Vanilluxe, but I like Vanillite and Vanillish, especially once I learned what they look like without the snow.
>>25887276
i wonder what itd taste like seriously haha
>>25887153
>>25887276
>>25887327
It's made of snow and ice, so I'm guessing it would taste like snow and ice.
>>25887290
>That said, all three of them are desperately looking for another theme they can merge themselves with, like some sort of animal.
Fuck that. They're ice elementals in the vein of Cryogonal, but based on icicles. Snow then collects on their surface and makes them look like ice cream cones. They've already got two things going for them.
>>25887061
I don't really care about Garbodor but I think the Vanillite line is cuteand tasty
>>25887061
Trubbish line is ok as it continues the mutated waste theme. Just wish Garbador didn't look like shit. The face in particular, it doesn't look grotesque, just bad.
Fuck Vanillite and its whole line. Being living icicles that just "happen" to look like ice cream. Vanilluxe is the worst with its fucking straw.
>>25887290
>That said, all three of them are desperately looking for another theme they can merge themselves with
Snowman? With 3 snowballs stacked on each other so it also looks like a 3-scoop ice cream cone.
>>25887396
At least it's implied that in the Pokemon universe, ice cream was inspired by the vanilluxe line and not the other way around.
>implying they are not the two best single designs ever
>>25887396
I bet a realistic drawing of Trubbish and Garbadour by the right artist would make them look much more grotesque and artful than their official sprites/portraits.
>>25887441
here you go
>>25887461
Does the Klink line get less hate than Vanillite and Trubbish because
>it has a better design
>gears are more acceptable as "living" creatures because they already made and it can be interpreted as a robot
or
>people forget it exists
?
>>25887534
>already made
already move*
>>25887061
Shit designs, but there are 716 other Pokemon to choose from.
>>25887061
I have nothing against the idea of a ruptured trash bag golem, I'm just disappointed that it doesn't even look like garbage. Damn thing looks like plush stuffing and candy.
Vanillite is cute but in any other generation it would have been left as a one-stage gimmickmon. Vanilluxe is like taking a joke that was barely funny the first time and just dragging it out until you hate the original joke.
>>25887486
>dasutodasu
Is it's Japanese name supposed to sound like "dust to dust". It seems pretty appropriate for a garbage monster.
>>25887534
I personally really like the Klinklang line. But yeah I think people just forget they exist. And I guess they're not as offensive.
>>25887114
SKELTAN! BEHIND YOU!
>>25887534
Klinklang should have been single-stage.
>>25887651
Klinklang should have been single stage and Vanillite should have ended at Vanillish.
>>25887534
>>25887588
My problem is that they're cute gears. Gears aren't supposed to be cute. Gears should be the grinding indicators of the high-power, slow-moving march of industry in a war-machine.
Not a bunch of cutesy children's toys.
Klinklang should be a sinister steel and dark/ghost type that hides in abandoned factories doing sinister things.
>>25887702
You are literally me.
>>25887238
Did Gamefreak really make two sprites for asymmetrical Pokémon?
>>25887790
Why wouldn't they?
There are times when they are facing the opposite direction, so it makes sense.
Trubbish and Vanillite are ok. They should have been single stages, their evolutions were mistakes.
>>25887829
But Garbodor is great.
>>25887702
which stage?
>>25887061
They are both fine imo
I think Garbador is actually pretty cool although I kinda wish it was part steel. Maybe in a future mega evo
>>25887061
Trubbish and Garbodor are some of my favorite mons. Not huge on Vanillite's evos, but I like the soft-serve.
>>25887303
L-lewd!
>>25887855
>>25887061
Ice cream line looks kinda cute at least.
I don't like anything about garbodour though
>>25887704
>Cold Steel the Klinklang
>>25887858
>When your trainer takes nude photos of you while you're passed out.
>>25887061
Both lines are ebin
>>25887845
The final one is pretty much perfect. It just needs an expanded movepool and a Mega where it's a component in some big combat machine.
People also forget about Chandelure and Cofagrigus. Why the fuck do they get a pass when they are object Pokémon too? And then there's Aegislash. In fact, every generation has Pokémon that arent animals. Fuck this double standard
Garbador is just one of those Pokemon I can't see myself ever using.
Kind of like Muk and Weezing to be honest so he fits right in.
>>25887916
Will 'o wisps, poltergeists, and mummies are all established "spooky" monsters, and more importantly, they don't look fucking stupid.
>>25887916
Those are all objects possessed by spirits, which is a fair justification, although a bit repetitive nowadays.
Trubbish being mutated trash is also alright.
Vanilluxe is not.
>>25888058
I like to think that the Pokemon world was the aftermath of a world-shattering supernatural war where most of the animals and many objects were posessed by spirits meant to be used as weapons- hence their ability to heed commands, destructive powers, and their frequent similarities to real-life animals.
Humanity was then knocked back into the stone age by the war, and remade their lives with pokemon by their sides. Legendaries like Arceus and Mew were simply spirit-remnants of superweapons that may of may not have been used at the war's end.
>>25888058
Why is Vanilluxe not okay?
I only mind the objectmons when I think too much about them. Like, the Trubish line is cool and all, but the idea of raising and loving mutated waste? It having emotions and loving me back? That stuff is just odd in my eyes.
It's off because magneton line is one of my favorites. I guess theres enough of a difference.
I don't get the hay for Vanil, the line is cute in all three stages.
The gears are also cute, and cool, and i want a choo-choo mega ever since that fake.
>people will defend this
Vanillite hit like a fucking truck in B/W. That thing carried me to the end of the game. Gen V bro
>>25888425
Never seen the big problem really. They're seeds.
And even if you insist on them being eggs that's still something biological, not a man made object.
>>25888425
Yes, they're pretty cool.
>>25888325
Vanillite and Vanillish are tolerable. But Vanilluxe runs the concept into the ground by looking just like ice cream, even down to the straw. Without any particularly good in-universe reason for such a striking resemblance.
>>25888488
yes
>>25888488
And this is bad because.. ?
>>25888488
It uses the "straw" to suck up large amounts of water to convert into ice and then blow it back out again as a blizzard.
>>25888488
>he eats ice cream through a straw
Faggot.
>>25888446
And the vanillish line is snow resting on top of icicles, whats your point?
>>25888694
That Exeggute doesn't look exactly like a man made object, despite "definitely" not being one.
>>25888749
fair enough
>>25888433
>>25887061
I know 2 people whose favorite Pokemon is vanilluxe.
I have yet to meet anyone who likes Garbodor
>>25888768
Voltorb are heavily implied to be mutated pokéballs. Not just looking like them for no reason.
>>25888799
You need to hang out with more people then.
>>25888808
>an inanimate object spontaneously comes to life
>nothin' weird about that
>what? garbage comes to life too?
>too far.
>>25888859
Never said I had a problem with Trubbish being animated garbage. Stop putting words in my mouth.
>>25888808They're what happens you leave you're pokemon inside a pokeball long enough
>>25889133
Oh shit. I gotta check my Emerald...
>>25887061
I liked Garbodor from the start.
I hated Vanillite's line, but I warmed up to it.
Related: Boo-boo keys are still the fucking worst pokemon. Every other "something came to life" pokemon comes from something incredibly common and with potential to appear. Klefki, while not actually "something came to life," is associated with a SINGLE FUCKING HOTEL HAVING LOTS OF KEYS SO KLEFKI SHOWED UP. Jesus Christ, what a retarded concept.
>Klefki, while not actually "something came to life," is associated with a SINGLE FUCKING HOTEL HAVING LOTS OF KEYS SO KLEFKI SHOWED UP.
I'm pretty sure Klefki as a concept is based on the extremely common problem of people always losing their keys.
>>25887114
SKELTAN! BEHIND YOU!
>>25887061
Prevo trash is pretty cute.
That thing is stupid looking.
Ice-cream was pretty useful in the game but in general still a pretty lame idea.
>>25887327
haha
>>25889216
In-universe, not out-of-universe. Klefki's native habitat is a hotel
>>25888859
He literally said that was fine?
>>25889193
Klefki looks very soft and malleable in its animations. I figure it can take on different shapes to hide and steal metals to feed on, but keyring became the most common shape because of humans' tendencies to lose their keys.
>>25887114
SKELTAN! BEHIND YOU!
>>25887089
/tv/ is here
>>25887061
The only reason I dislike the Vanillish line is because, like Glalie, pretty much only learns ice type moves. Garbodor is cool.
I really don't mind the trubbish line. They seem like pokemon to me.
The ice cream line is something completely out of left-field for me though, even for pokemon. Not a fan at all.
>>25892054
>>25892054
>Ice/Ghost
>The cursed frogurt pokemon
>>25888160
>spirit weapons
Makes more sense then nuclear mutations/nanomachines.
>>25887114
SKELTAN! BEHIND YOU!
>>25887082
Garbodor is a reference to Totoro, the ears are a reference to Mickey Mouse, and in turn, Disney owning Ghibli, which is garbage.
>>25887303
sauce? got any more of these?
>>25892288
It was a 4koma manga published shortly after BW's release. I used to have a link to an imageshack album that had most of them, but following the link it looks like it has been deleted. This is the best I can bother to find:
http://pkmncollectors.livejournal.com/8346795.html?page=2
>>25887114
SKELTAN! BEHIND YOU!
>>25887588
Of course there not offensive, they're defensive.
>>25887061
Liked Trubbish and Garbodors designs from the start, never got the hate. Not every pokemon needs to be cute or cool looking, weird Pokémon are good too.
Vanilite and it's evolutions grew on me over time.gen 5 is best gen
>>25887114
SKELTAN! BEHIND YOU!
I like Garbodor's unique shape and color scheme. I'm sad the design doesn't integrate a garbage can, but it's nice and creative otherwise.
Snow-cone's fine, but I still hate that third evo.
Both are okay in my mind, I like the idea behind Vanilluxe line a lot, but the execution could be more subtle.
>>25887114
SKELTAN! BEHIND YOU!
>>25895290
I agree. I'm personally not a fan a Garbodor, but I don't think it's a bad design.
I really like Vanillish and Vanilluxe, but Vanillite never hit with me.
>>25887061
I very much like Ice Cream's line from both design and concept standpoint.
Garbodor is just ugly. It has never really looked like a Pokemon to me. Trubbish is fine, though
>>25887061
>So now that the dust has settled
Kill yourself
I still dont like Garbodor
not the idea behind his design, but the appearance itself
Vanillite is shit forever though
>So now that the dust has settled
>>25889261
im going to take my own life if it continues to have no meaning haha
>>25888058
How is a snow covered icicle any worse than a walking plant or floating glacier?
>>25892054
>>25895930
At least follow the chain to see my response.
Vanillite and Vanillish are tolerable, and being icicles are not a problem. However Vanilluxe runs the ice cream theme into the ground.
>>25887061
Get rid of them both so I can finally have peace. Christ, what were they smoking when they made these two?
Garbodor is great. Vanilite is pure crap. If at least it looked good, but it's just an average japanese "cute" design. Those always look the same.
