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Useless member of the team edition. Old thread >>25855762

SPMD .cia http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw

Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.

Blue, Sky, and an emulator (now comes with rom editor so you can have custom starters): https://mega.nz/#!TUEBhRQY!mfpcugVQp_aVbNVNDoJjElo3c__57V0s6O45ftnMSHQ

/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u

PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-

Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA

Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
REMINDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as American.
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First for breaking the 255 statcap.
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This is one of my favourite generals!
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>>25878852

Never played any of these games apart from a few minutes of the first, and one of the demos for the 3DS. The battling and the dungeon crawling seemed really boring to me.

But im so thirsty for some more pokemon content that im considering giving these games a second chance.

Is there any easily emulatable game that would be good for a beginner?
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HOLD IT! I remember someone who asked if I could use a move Tutor on Lucario to teach her Drain punch
turns out, there's a TM for it in DP, which means there's also one in Sky
where I could find it.... not idea
I mean, I've been having trouble even finding Attract, but this....
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>>25879333
There's a link to download the first two games, Blue Recue Team and Explorers of Sky, in the OP. They're both DS games, so if you have trouble emulating those, then try finding Red Rescue team, which is the GBA version of Blue RT. Sky is the better of the two, but if you can't play it then RT is just fine.
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>>25879333
>The battling and the dungeon crawling seemed really boring to me.
It gets better later on. You know, it's a Pokémon game, they need to make at the very least the beginning as easy and accessible as possible.

Though I don't really get when people say PMD is boring. What they end up criticizing it can also be said about the main Pokémon games if not most RPGs. Maybe the issue is that they compare the dungeon to the routes and cities instead of the battle scene?

>Is there any easily emulatable game that would be good for a beginner?
The first two games (Blue Rescue Team and Explorers of Sky) are perfect to start with and easily emulated. You can get them from the "Exploration Pack" download in the OP, which also includes a randomizer for EoS and a rom/save editor with some nice features.

Adventure Squad on the Wii basically has the same gameplay, but not good story/graphics/music. Also it isn't translated.
Gates to Infinity on the 3DS has everything Adventure Squad lacked. And it lacks the only thing Adventure Squad had. They tried to make it a little different by doing some small gameplay changes from the other games, but it doesn't matter much after all. This is also basically a prototype of the newest game, Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon sold as a full game.

I'd suggest you to play BRT, then EoS
AS if you're interested to try it out, but not necessarily. Then maybe check Gates to Infinity's plot if you liked the DS ones.
And then play Super.
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>>25879382
>giving Luxeris attract and drain punch
Such a lewd combo. Sucker someone in, only to "suck" the life right out of them with her FIST.
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>>25879333
The games take a little bit to get going, which can turn people off.
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>>25879466
is it possible to teach her Sucker Punch as well?
this one I doubt
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>>25879526
Attract
Drain Punch
Aura Sphere
and I think Espanon wanted to give her Focus Punch?
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>>25879559
well you know, she could replace focus punch with drain punch
as great as the ONE PUUUUNCH is. it's not very practical to wait a turn, even if there is an IQ that nulls that effect in return for 2 PP instead
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>>25879599
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>>25879333
I think it would be great if you posted about your experience with them while playing, I'd like to see how it turns out and what you like or don't like about it or whatever.
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>>25879599
or you can abuse that enmies with no ranged moves will always try to get near you to charge the punch aiming at an empty tile, knowing that the enemy will move to that tile and unles the punch after it moved
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Can I get a rescue?
Galvantula's Signal Beam cross-room sniped me...

American btw
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>>25879599
Who cares if it's not practical?
It's fucking FOCUS PUNCH!
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>>25879701
>Just about to go to bed
On my way! Just sit tight!
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>>25879466
>that gif
LEWD.
Are there any more?
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I WANT TO HOLD SWIRLIX' HAND
AS I SHOVE MY HARD COCK IN FOR SOME BACKDOOR ANAL ACTION[/SPOILER]
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>>25879760
>>25879701
>Tfw stole from a Kecleon shop
>Tfw got two rainbow TM's from it
>And saved someone from a dungeon
Yep yep
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>>25879877
Thank you so much anon! Sleep tight!
Also, what was your loot?
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>>25879311
same
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>>25879906
Anytime, Anon. T'is what I'm here for
Got Volt Switch and Power-Up Punch- I LIED! I got three rainbow TM's
I also got Safeguard. I thought I left that
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do x-ray specs not reveal items in walls?
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>>25879976
nope, unfortunately
oh god, think of how much more broken that would be
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>>25879976
everything in walls outside 7 treasure dungeons, barring Sky Stairway, is money
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>>25880030
thanks for the heads up
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what is the complete maximum my attack stat can go as Lucario, using the Riolu card for plus attack and the..... uhh, the one that basically combines two and stats with the first Riolu card
plus the BEST attack boosting item, with all those, how far up can it go?
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>>25880105
oh... and throw in a violent seed for maximum boost
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>>25880105
you'll have to factor in the Orange/Iron silk, and whatever the Dust equivalents are
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>>25880150
oh yeah, type specific items too
but the biggest question with all of this...... could I one punch any boss?
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>>25880170
well I just checked.... and both type items would give 10 each, and Lucario himself...... has no items that boost Physical attack
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>>25880170
If you Focus Punch+Vile Seed+Violent Seed, yeah
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Mudkip pls, don't make this harder than it already is.
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>>25880252
>RRT

Can you actually save or does it just say Save FAiled?
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>>25880275
Not that anon, but it's possible to save normally in RRT while emulating it, though I forget the process.
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>>25880285
you need to set save to something like Flash 128x or something. If he cant save the it'll be impossible to get past Sky Tower
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>>25880275
Some online guides said to fix it by going into VBA's Options -> Emulator -> Save Type and then clicking "Flash" and "Flash 128K". Even then it didn't work right away, so I had to reset and play through Tiny Woods several times before it finally did.

>try to pull the same stunt the partner tried to do
>he immediately calls me out on it
what a dick
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>>25880306
Alright, just making sure you dont get fucked over. Why Red instead of Blue?
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>>25880315
My computer's pretty weak, so emulating GBA is a lot easier than emulating DS. Besides the different controls, I'm not too bothered by it.

Also, time for one of the more memorable music tracks in the game.
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They're really bringing out the big guns this early in the game, huh. Reminds me a lot of Super.
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>>25880391
>Ampharos jumping for joy
Ampharos is meant to be a lovable, clumsy buffoon.

This clashes with my headcanon. Delete it.
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>>25880315
In terms of emulating it, the music on Red is way, way better.
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>>25880398
Ampharos is getting FIT, you fool

it's such a shame Ampharos didn't get all those neat moves until gen 4
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>this setup with Mudkip in the middle
uh oh

>>25880398
Nothing wrong with a buffoon jumping for joy.

>>25880409
Yeah, nothing from Blue's OST's impressed me besides the vs. Legendary theme.
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picked this up from a job on the wanted board. also carvanha is ready for evolution
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>fight immediately starts with Mudkip pressed up to Zapdos' face
>throw a Sleep Seed at it so I can close the distance before it wakes up
>Zapdos wakes up on the same turn it fell asleep and IMMEDIATELY destroys my partner with one Thundershock
COOL FUCKING GAME
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>>25880306
fuck you partner
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>>25880444
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>>25880453
shoulda made it mud slap
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>>25880469
He did. For 10 damage.

I'm probably not going to be able to win this fight without some Reviver Seeds, so I'm going to have to take a few jobs to get more. Still better than exiting the game and grinding on Pelipper Island.
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>>25880478
>For 10 damage.
And? The point is to nuke their accuract
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Is there a way to add custom pokemon icons to the game? (I mean Sky)
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>>25880521
portraits? Yeah, but it's extremely specific, and the only non starter that has them is Wooper
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For Terrakion in SMD, which is the better fighting move between Close Combat, Double Kick, and Sacred Sword?

I'm leaning towards Double Kick because multi hitting moves deal a busted amount of damage.
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>>25880522
what if i made some myself? would i be able to add them?
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>>25880601
Furthermore, how does Return work in SMD?
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>>25880798
I think Pokémon have a hidden stat based on how much you've used them and it bases damage off of that.
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>>25880828
>hidden stat based on how much you've used them and it bases damage off of that.
>SMD forces pokemon to take breaks
LITERALLY fucking Einstein right now.

I briefly entertained the idea that perhaps it was determined by connection orb completion, but I've got no idea.
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Deepest lore.
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I finally picked up my copy of SMD this week but haven't started playing yet (because of Hyrule Warriors Legends).

I think I'm gonna pick Riolu for my started, but who should my partner be?
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>>25880896
I saw that the other day when I was playing through RRT for the first time. The PMD world is fucking weird.

>>25880934
>inb4 everyone just says Fennekin
pick ur favorite anon kun u no just follow ur heart n shiet
Fennekin is a supreme choice tho
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Fights are a lot easier when you bring friends.

>>25880934
Fennekin. Best sniper starter with Psybeam/Ember, plus they fit the partner's hyperactive personality well.
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>>25880934
Your starter should be Chespin and your partner should be Chespin.
More seriously, your partner's personality is very similar to Naruto (NA-RU-TO), so consider picking a partner pokemon with a punchable face.
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Time for the best track in the game already?

>>25880991
I kind of like that the human world relationship is kept vague, it makes for some amusing speculation.
also way to inb4 me like that
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>>25881064
And of course I forget the picture.

Might as well post the track while I'm at it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p30ABixmhyA
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After what this TM's done to this general, I'm not sure if I really want to wield this thing's power.
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>>25881081
>RT Greet Cannon
>Better than SMD Best Dune of Best Spirits
;;;;;;;;))))))))
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>>25881101
Do it.
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>>25881101
Don't do it.
You'll only destroy yourself and everyone you love.
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>>25881131
>>25881142
We Star Wars nao.
Espanon Wars?
Poke Wars?
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>>25881105
They both rad as fuck nigga back the fuck off?!?!
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>>25880896
i think maybe they hadnt really thought this through too well
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>>25881101
Where have I seen this before?
You should totally use it
But if you don't you can always give it to me
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>>25881322
aren't they both the same place
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>>25881665
Great Canyon's on the Wind Continent and the Sand Dune of Spirits is on the Sand Continent
It's a shame, I'd like to have seen many more returning locations.
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>>25881105
>liking the equivalent of passing a MIDI through Garageband, adding a rattle, and calling it a day
Something about the new instruments just doesn't capture the magic for me the same way. It's the same reason I don't like the La-Mulana Remake OST.

>>25881131
nah
But I'll give it to my partner, since this simpleton will need all the attraction he can get for me to like him.

>>25881663
But don't you already know the move???
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m/m fennekin x snivy faggort here for my daily report
I started working on a new picture today. I haven't finished the first, but I had an idea and I wanted to run with it, so here's a peek at that
i hope u rike it im going to bed now
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>>25881731
Oh it's not for me
I'm still looking for one to corrupt that cute little Riolu right now
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Tickle.
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http://youtu.be/V9oPdT1aX58

>things typically calming down after reaching the satue
>be me climbing towards the final battle
>music excelently express this
>reach statue and go on
>prep for the minutes of silence before the storm like always
>suddenly things accelerate instead
>mfw
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>>25880679
Yes, as long as you keep them indexed with 16 colors
and have them dynamic enough instead of just simply changing the expression and BG
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Back for the intense feels
>Inb4 this is not the right song
>even though it would fit like a glove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBgpQJtPgYg
0:00-Grovyle's parting speech
0:25-Grovyle starts slowing pushing Dusknoir into the portal
0:49-One last tear falls before Gorvyle enters the portal and it closes
0:52-PC and partner are left alone to mourn Grovyle's sacrifice
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>>25881859
feels, you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHtBKL0sh7U
loved this scene
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>any trainer pets their Ninetales
>disaster ensues
Living in this PMDverse with the world frequently on the brink of destruction must be terrifying.
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https://youtu.be/WFIJFPepVts
My favourite song in the entire series
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Are there rips for the starter portraits from RT? That way you could increase the amount portraits for Explorers.
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>>25882018
Explorers already has all of RT's portraits
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>>25882024
really? Guess I should've looked though the previous starters portraits
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>>25882038
Yeah, a lot of resources were carried over.

Speaking of portraits, looks like Spriters Resource was finally updated with gens 5 and 6.
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>start playing darkness
>start with Chikorita for difficulty
>garbage attack
>garbage moves

should I stick with it or just restart? I feel like Chikorita is the worst possible starter
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>>25882103
>Picking Chikorita
>Ever
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>>25882120
wanted to try playing through with a grass starter and I've already done it with turtwig and didn't want treecko since grovyle has a big role in the story. bulbasaur is the only other choice but I don't know what it's like
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>>25882103
>>start with Chikorita for difficulty
>complains it's hard
???
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>>25882083
I wonder if they'll ever update the starter sprites for Explorers; there's a few missing sprites such as looking up at Fogbound Lake and falling into the Quicksand.
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>go through the entirety of Sky's main game dealing with Eevee's Run Away shit
>get to make a real party in the post-game
>except for these last few dungeons in the post-game
I am so sick of this bullshit
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Men down! Men Down! This is team Bluestreak requesting backup! We are hit on Showdown Mountain on floor 10. We are in pursuit of story mode and need more provisions of reviver seeds, oran berries, and reviver orbs! Again, this is Bluestreak down and requesting backup! Follow the sent cordinates!
Over. (Khrr)
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>>25882550
Don't worry, Mate! I'm on my way! Just sit tight!
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So how different is Rescue Team's Gummi system from Explorers'? Do I still eat these things in dungeons for stat gains? Are there IQ groups, or can anyone learn every skill? etc.
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>>25882601
You only get stat gains if you feed them to Pokémon in friend areas.
Everyone gets the same skills, but the skills are grouped and you can only enable one skill from each group.
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>>25882584
>>25882550
Yep yep
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>>25882614
>You only get stat gains if you feed them to Pokémon in friend areas.
So how would that work for the MC/partner since they don't live in a friend area?

>Everyone gets the same skills, but the skills are grouped and you can only enable one skill from each group.
So I can use anyone I like, cool.
Why wasn't that in Explorers, it would've been so much better.
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TIL: don't ask for a rescue then give up because youre embarrassed when you're carrying 50,000 Poké
TIAL: the bow you get from the personality test cannot be taken when you wipe
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>>25882739
>So how would that work for the MC/partner since they don't live in a friend area?
You'll be able to feed it to them during the postgame.
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>>25882772
Ah, okay. I guess I can sacrifice a few stat boosts for some IQ skills until then.
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>>25882760
>TIAL: the bow you get from the personality test cannot be taken when you wipe
I'm pretty sure mine got wiped when I was playing darknes
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>>25882823
I got everything but the bow taken from me. It's the only thing I have left.
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>>25882855
>just realized I lost the IQ booster
The money hurt but wasn't too big of a deal, but this is too much. I guess I'm just gonna cheat. I'll be sure to ask for a rescue next time. I'm such a fucking idiot.
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ThAnK yOU
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>>25883490
You're welcome.
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OK, I swear this time, it HAS to be the One Punch Man theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4bHBNXHxGI
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>>25883490
I don't care what you shitters say, it was the best final fight in the series.
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>>25883608
well, I think I found something to replace the worthless bone rush
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>>25883969
oh... lucario can't learn dragon claw here... could have sworn he did
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>>25883932
Oh, definitely. That shit was crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5jpdiv1718
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>>25883932
>Dark Matter slowly getting broken more and more as the fight went on
It's the little things
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>>25883932
It absolutely shat on the bittercold fight
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>>25881740
it looks cute so far
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Oh no, I understand completely, me and Weavile/Kira have a strictly platonic relationship too
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>>25882007
good taste

song very goodbad feels like bad but good, and good but bad
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aha my first wall treasure that isnt money. i mean its only purpose is to sell but at least its a lot...
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>>25884293
ah yes platonic relationships, complete with platonic snuggles and hand holding and no situational embarrassment whatsoever

what if you're just dense and she really wants your red rocket
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>>25884293
>>25884335
GIVE
HER
THE
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>>25884293
Vegeta? Is that you best buddy?
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I just finished the game, thanks for everyone who helped me out about 2 weeks ago. But what the fuck was that ending?
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>>25884694
rushed shit.
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>>25884694
It was different, but even, I as someone who liked it, can admit that it wasn't done very well.
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>>25884694
>But what the fuck was that ending?
The worst scene in the entire PMD series
The epilogue is almost as bad
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>>25882103
>playing darkness
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>>25884694
A rushed ending followed by the worlds longest unskippable credits
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>>25884790
That's one big exaggeration.
In the Future of Darkness's ending was worse.
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>>25884818
It was a blatant deus ex machina, but at least the first half on its own was good

Super's ending scene had so many different flavours of bullshit that it became fascinating. Every problem the story had, from the pacing to how the characters were used, came crashing down on this one scene
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>>25884850
Most of Explorers' problems get left behind by the story and its fans. Super's problems are more obvious, and the impact of the scene being dependent on whether or not you like the character was risky. Not a flaw in and of itself, but then you get most of the people here who vehemently hate this game partly because they didn't like the characters (not the whole reason, but definitely a part of it from these posts).

But even with its problems, if you can like the characters and what goes on, it's still an enjoyable experience, at least to me it was. I seem to be in the minority that like the school section, even in retrospect and on my second playthrough.

This is probably the worst and unreasonable case of "stop not liking what I like" I've ever had, since most of people's problems with the game come from opinions rather than actual flaws. Not saying they don't exist, this general has opened my eyes to a lot of them, but

TL;DR I just don't agree with most of you guys.
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Sorry for the wall of text.

When are the Tunnel Snakes gonna make an appearance?
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>>25884960
Explorers's problems was with the characters in general. I just didn't like any of them. The partner was both bland and annoyingly clingy, the guild had the exact same problem that the PC in Super did (lots of screen time, but did fuck all), Dusknoir was Mr Obvious Bad Guy and Grovyle felt like every stoic anime character ever. I would say Explorers's and Super's story was about on the same level. Explorers's was a flat ok, while Super's was up and down.

Gates had a much better story than both of them. It had problems too, but they were way smaller.
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>>25885049
>Explorers's was flat ok, while Super's was up and down
I agree, and I think this is the best way to phrase my feelings when comparing the games.

I've been meaning to get Gates for a while, have some Amazon credit I can put towards the digital version. I'll probably get it soon, but I'm just now getting around the Sky's post-post-game so that's gonna occupy me for a while.
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>>25885129
I guess Super's story annoys me more since it had the pieces of a pretty good story there, but fucked up the execution. That stretch between The second Revelation Mountain visit and Prehistoric Cave was pretty damn good, especially the scenes just after escaping The void

I'd say Gates is underrated among the fanbase as a whole, though this is coming from someone who thinks the core PMD gameplay is merely servicable (once all the post story events are done, I usually stop playing). Also helps that it has the best story of the series, and probably the only story in the entire Pokemon franchise that I thought was good, due to having a smaller side cast that was used pretty well and had their own developments. I think most people disagree, but I liked how they downplayed the partner a bit. Made him feel less in my face all the time, which helped make me like him more than the others.
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>>25885250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n632do7Whnk

I love the song so much. What a nice song to start the day with.
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>>25885250
huh, never thought an Absol could be a mentor.... especially to a fire slug.... wait, do you know this Absol, Hoppip and Slugma, Anon?
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>>25885332
>>25885334
oh I guess now it's Jumpluff and Magcargo.... still, do you know this Absol?
again, I forgot the image on the last post
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>>25885334
who's a cute little elephant baby
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>>25885371
ah yes thats slugmas sensei. slugma wanted to be a ninja before he became an explorer but eventually gave up because its hard to be sneaky when you are a slug made of lava...
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>>25885049
>>25885232
Different anon here, but see, for me it's kind of the opposite. Explorers' partner has always been the most true-to-life for me mainly because I used to, and still somewhat, share their lack of self-esteem and need for companionship, and the guild and characters are all more background dressing to get you invested in the world. The guild isn't an ensemble cast like what Gates attempted; they're your fellow guildmates. Most of the time they aren't helping you out or getting screentime because you and them are fulfilling separate roles. Loudred and Diglett are always on lookout duty, for instance. That sort of thing. They're more there to help ease you into the world and get attached to it, so you'll want to save it later. If you're expecting the guild to be an ensemble cast with development and everything, you're going into the story the wrong way.

It's likely personal preference, though. Gates has never ever worked for me simply because I never got invested in its characters, but for the opposite reason you dislike Explorers - I wish they would just have player/partner development duos, rather than trying to implement a side cast that's too big to handle. Nobody in Gates really had any personality to me outside of Virizion, or any real dialogue voice, either.
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>>25885405
>Ninja Absol and Ninja Slugma
..... I dunno, I think it could work
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>>25885405
>>25885416
uhhh, was that suppose to happen?
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>>25885371
>>25885441
holy shit, that's hilarious
how is that even possible?
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>>25885441
slugma's sensei's evil twin lured him out with promises of secret ninja techniques even a slug could do. while his guard was down evil twin absol stole his max elixer... which he thought was ginseng... evil twin later realizes his mistake and is upset he made such a foolish mistake
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>>25885491
>Evil twin
you mean every other Absol in existence?
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>>25885516
i didnt realize absols were evil. i dont have any knowledge on their characters in pmd, but i didnt think they looked like evil pokemon
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>>25885516
>>25885546
They're not, but Anon is literally asking for a death sentence by calling Dark Types evil, especially Absol
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>>25885546
They're not evil, just misunderstood, they tried to warn people of disasters, but they instead became an omen of them.
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>>25885469
That's the power of random missions, my friend

I remember way back when I first beat Drowzee the entire outlaw board was full of missions to arrest Pokemon on Mt. Bristle, and even though it was because I just unlocked that dungeon, I liked to think that Drowzee getting arrested left a hole a bunch of small fry tried to fill

Maybe it's dumb, but that's kind of why I miss random missions; Super's connection orb really doesn't have the same spark to it
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>>25885413
I'd say Super was far worse for it though. I think it both had too few characters yet too many at the same time, if that's not confusing (Too few main characters, too many side characters). Super only had one main character - the partner. The player has too little impact on the story to be a main character, in spite of his screen time. Since, as a player stand-in, he had zero personality, he's struggling to warrant his existence in the story (Same with the Rescue Team partner to an extent). What also hurt Super's story for me is that the Super partner is just not the sort of person I'd ever befriend, which really took me out of the experience. The Explorers partner got a bit iffy for me at points, but he never got me to think 'why am I supposed to be friends with you?'

Super in general soured me to the player/partner set up. I'd like for them to make a different dynamic for next game, such as maybe two partners or just go for an ensemble cast of about 5 main characters. The main problem with the dynamic I found is that the partners in general (aside from Gates to an extent) remind me of that friend, who might be a perfectly nice guy, but does not know when you give you a bit of space from time to time, so as a result, I got a bit sick of him. It's a great set up if you get attached and really like the partner, but for a single character to carry an entire story, they have to be really well written AND be someone I'd want to be friends with, and I just don't think the PMD writers are capable of doing that.

I would disagree with what you said about the Gates cast. I'd say Dunsparce, Emolga, Partner, Hydreigon and Munna had more personality than Virizion.
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>>25885674
>ditch player/partner duo
DUDE

WE COULD START OUR OWN GUILD

It would be like MGS Peace Walker or Mass Effect where you have the player and a few supporting characters and we make our own way.
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>>25885709
>you, your partner, and a couple other pokemon get turned down from a guild for one reason or another
>you all decide to group together and start your own guild
>those other pokemon become a large part of the story

I'd be down, if the other pokemon were good at least
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>>25885674
If it weren't because it would effectively lock you down to one starter, it would be interesting to see a PMD game where you do the quiz as usual but no matter the choice the MC becomes a Zorua, with the chosen pokemon as a disguise to use out of dungeon for plot reasons.
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How would you feel if they removed the personality quiz, but had every starter from every pmd game to compensate?
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>>25886251
>to compensate
>implying the removal of the quiz is a bad thing
Honestly, it's lost its charm, and its always flawed so you'll never actually get the Pokémon that would match you. Maybe if the quiz asked you every question it would be more accurate. "But it would take too long!" Make it shorter or optional, but I'm just gonna cheat to get the starter I want since the quizzes aren't that great for actually matching you to the right personality. Nice the first time, though.
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>>25886251
I'd be perfectly fine with it.

Why wouldn't they use the personality quiz to do something more interesting though? Like, different dialogues based on what personality you get, and not necessarily assigning it to a Pokémon.
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>>25885674
Oh no, yeah, I definitely agree on that. Super had the weird dilemma of trying to do too many things at once, and it suffered heavily for it. I actually liked the characters at first - the schoolkids were alright and the partner was rambunctious, albeit annoying (and I didn't sugarcoat it when I told him lol) - but in the back of my head I always knew we'd be joining Amphy and the society eventually, and so my connection to the characters dwindled and eventually snapped and never came back.

For me I've always been the opposite - I'd prefer to have a friend to do everything with like that, so the player/partner setup usually clicks with me pretty well. Heck, the only reason Super didn't click with me was because of the reason I just mentioned. That's part of why Gates never worked for me: the partner left a really bland impression, the town felt more generic than compelling, and the story just kind of dawdled because it had to juggle all the characters. Plus the localization. Someone mentioned this before, but between the text speed and the way a lot of the dialogue was written, it was just a pain to get through.

I'd just like them to get a different writer altogether, personally. Rescue and Explorers had two, and then one left and Gates and Super were left with the dude who stuck around, but either way, whether you like Explorers more or Gates more, it's always just one good fluke, a couple decents, and Super.
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Hi, /hbg/ here. I just wanted to share some numbers with you.

0004000000174600 ae10a66dac0a880fdb2daefa95df43c6

It's American.
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>>25886921
What does it mean?
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>>25886946
You can download stuff directly from Nintendo's servers using PlaiCDN.

I just posted this now >>>/vg/138225169
(EU) Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity DLC
0004008c000ba900 62eb6761a6591d05193be11e67210658

I wonder if the other anon is here.
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>>25886967
... How?
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>>25887013
You just install them with CFW like always, this just makes them easier to find and prevents some random guy on 3DSiso to make money out of piracy download link.
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>>25887032
Oh. Cool, thanks.
I still haven't set up CFW.
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Just maxed Jirachi's IQ and I'm wondering who I should boost beside my starter and partner. I've got pages of berries, seeds, and drinks that need downing. Does Drifblim honestly need the boost? I don't have any other Pokémon in mind, just wondering if those three are good.
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>>25887267
make sure you have lockon specs. Also, what starters?
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>>25887305
Riolu and Torchic.
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>>25887324
If you really want to keep using those two despite the mediocre IQ skills they have, go for it. Might want to make Drifblim the leader because of Trap Seer
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>>25887347
Yeah, I didn't know about IQ groups and all that when I first started this game, I just picked Pokémon I like. I just keep using them because it feels weird not to. I've been making Drifblim the leader for most operations though since a rogue grime trap fucked one trip to Marine Resort.
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>>25887398
Hey i can respect using your starters all the time. Always sucked how some mons got fucked over like that though, those two don't even get Trap Avoider. The only way to get them to never trip traps is a Trap Scarf, but look where they are.
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>>25887347
Mediocre? I've never found Riolu/Lucario to be bad at all. Intimidator, Quick Striker, and Pierce Hurler are fantastic; I can clean out entire rows in Monster Houses and the like with a few well-placed silver spikes. Traps aren't an issue because in the dungeons where traps actually matter, I always end up A-button-ing every tile anyway.

I mean, if you're talking about having them as a partner, then sure, no Trap Avoider is pretty damning. But that's why I'm never the partner lol
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>>25887849
Oh I'm glad I have Intimidator. I can't believe how often it seems to activate.
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>>25887849
Really, i just think that if the lead mon doesn't have Trap Seer, why bother? It's just too good.
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At what point does PMSD get hard? I've recruited like 600/720
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>>25887913
wanna try out sacred ruins?
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>>25887913
Have you boosted your stats at all? Then probably never.
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>>25887930
I'll head there now then
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>>25887896
Fair enough, hah. The few times I actually have swapped my partner (Ninetales, in the same group as Drif) into the leader role, traps were even less of an issue.

Part of it for me is the fact that most of the IQ set is supportive skills, and that seems to be better off in the hands of the AI. I wouldn't trust the computer to do any of the item throwing or whatnot with Lucario, for instance.
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>>25885049
>Dusknoir was Mr Obvious Bad Guy

I thought nothing of him until he pulled the player and partner into the future with him. Heck, I thought he was good since he helped them several times.
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>>25888029
Same here. He honestly seemed like a genuinely nice guy. That grin on the beach kind of tipped me off that something was up, though.

Looking back, there's actually a bunch of subtle little things that tip him off as fake. He never once smiles or expresses any genuine sort of positive emotion, he's a giant ball of vague pleasantries and stoicism.
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>>25888214
Not him, but that's not necessarily indicative of a villain, though. In fact, that's how I would expect someone who's the best at something to act. That just stems from my own insecurities, though. He didn't act any different than how I thought he would, so I didn't think anything of it.
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>>25888274
I didn't suspect a thing, either. But when you replay it, definitely pay attention to his dialogue.

I like that they chose Dusknoir. He's a big, friendly-looking fellow that's humanoid and rounded without too many edges, yet looks capable enough to be in the position he's in. Perfect balance of non-supsiciousness, if it was any other ghost-type, I'd be tipped off immediately.
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>>25888339
>if it was any other ghost-type
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>>25888359
Well, you definitely wouldn't expect the role it and its evolution have in these games.
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>>25888400
>final boss of next game is a monster house of drifblim
>all with ominous wind
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>>25888339
or if it was a dark type
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This is not the first time you have done this edition and I am here again to say Swirlix was the best member of the Society
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>>25888359
I suppose I should've said balance of powerful-lookingness and non-suspiciousness. It's ironic, considering Drifloon/blim are the most powerful pokemon in the game.
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>>25888455
Spellcheck, am I right? Looks like it autocorrected Swirlix from Archen.
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is the story anon still active?
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>>25888505
Swirlix, the chef, is the best member of the society

Jirachi, the genius, is also the best

Ampharos and Archen are alright

I don't care for Buizel or Mawile

Pretty sure I covered everyone
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>>25888706
Everyone of note, yes. Though I disagree with your ranking:

Ampharos>Archen=Buizel>Jirachi=Mawile>Swirlix>sack of apples>>>>Bunnelby
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>>25888706
>implying amp isn't the best

He actually does stuff. What does Swirlix do, other than "eat everyone's food?"
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>>25881731
>Unironically preferring an inferior version of an identical song
I, too, feel like the pinnacle of gaming is tetris.
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>>25888765
>implying it isn't
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>>25888765
Tetris Type A a best
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>>25888762
You just explained why the chef is the most likable character, I enjoy that cliche, and she's simple and cute

Also I don't really care for the "comically bad sense of direction" cliche, Amph is more important to the story though
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>>25888765
>>25888777
Of course it's not. How come you guys are forgetting about Pong?
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>>25888897
Still going to disagree mainly because the "oops i ate everything again" gag is all she's there for
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>>25888934
Hey, >>25888777 has the trips.
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>>25888969
>>25888777
>777 trips is a shitpost about Tetris
Of course.
Also, teehee 69
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i didnt know they had floors that were just literally clear open rooms
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>>25889185
forgot image
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>>25889206
>one-room orb
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>>25888686
which one?
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>>25889258
the one who was gonna write about the espeon and the lucario
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>>25889206
i was suppose to capture a pokemon on this floor but it never showed up i dont get it
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>>25889277
There was someone who was going to do that? I mean, you guys named the Lucario after MY character, so it'd be a little weird for me. I haven't seen Espanon around recently, though.
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>>25889329
it was actually my characters
definitely not espanon
speaking of which, where'd they go
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>>25889329
sorry about all that mess

for the record i was against that name, not that it matters on an anonymous site. I'm not going to start using a name either, that's for sure
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>>25889329
>>25889375
Ask and you shall receive
I was bored, just been lurking
But you know, the name is not THAT bad
honestly, if you can make up something much better for my corrupted apprentice, go ahead
I'll wait
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>>25889487
not that Anon but Lucina
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>>25879333

Play Explorers of Sky for DS. That was an amazing game. Gates to infinity, (which you played the demo for), was boring and Super Mystery Dungeon was cute, but not as fun.
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>>25889382
>Giving pokemon names in fanfics
This is the greatest cringe
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>>25889592
>People unironically believe that Sky had better gameplay than Gates or SMD
/pmdg/
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>>25889604
>People actually liked Ears despite the fact that I named the MC and partner the game I had
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>>25889604
>not giving individuals names that makes them individual
this is the greatest COMMUNISM
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>>25889719
To be fair, no other Pokémon in the PMD universe has a name. Nicknames, sure, but not NAMES.
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>>25889711
Do you REALLY want me to stop using the name Luxeris? Like, really, be completely honest, yes or no
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>>25889604
>not giving Pokemon names
the Ursaring pair taught us of this danger
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>>25889617
Gates had less mons, SMD had no IQ/Team Skills. Each game has their merits, though
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>>25889730
What's the difference?
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>>25889733
I dunno, I'm not the guy who cares. I'm referring specifically to Ears, I dunno who Luxrayman is.
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>>25889767
How I see it, NAMES are usually given at birth, and are usually stuff like John or Alissa. Nicknames can be stuff like Ponyboy, and are usually given by someone like a friend or something and symbolize something related to the person's character or an event related to them.
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>>25889812
I'll bite. Why do you think a name wouldn't be given at birth to Pokémon who can talk and make a community?
Without saying "that's how it is in the games."
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>>25889743
>Gates had a smaller roster
True.
>SMD has no IQ/Team skills
I prefer it this way.
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>>25889842
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. All Pokémon can talk, unless that's the point you're making.

But yeah, "that's how it is" is pretty much what it comes down to. Why, when no other Pokémon has a name, should one be so special? Unless you go out of your way to name everyone, naming one Pokémon doesn't seem right.
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>>25889883
In the Mystery Dungeon universe, they speak English (or whatever, a common language) and have developed a fairly advanced society. Coming that far without coming up with the idea of giving something a unique name seems pretty out of the question. What I'm saying is they'd ALL have names.
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>>25889929
Yes, they SHOULD have names, but they don't. If you're writing a fanfiction and you name everyone, that's great, that's how you should do it if you're gonna do it at all.
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>>25890009
Alright, so the only reason you have for them not to have names is the game developers being either too lazy or unwilling to confuse the people who will end up playing the game.
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>>25889883
Heh, the partner in GtI asks you which name they should go by. They don't generally have names unless they want to, I guess?
It's kind of like like using a name/trip here I guess.
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>>25889929
They might have names, but you only know yours and your partner's because those are the only relevant ones.
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>>25890040
Lazy, maybe. Confusing, no. In fact, it would lift some ambiguity as to which characters are actually ones form past games.

It's not like they can just suddenly give them names four/five/whatever games in.
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>>25889604
i think i gotta disagree just because i don't think it's a big deal
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>>25890093
"i luv u ShadowRazorX u r suc a cool Zorororak"
"no i lub u evin moar Jezzika u r da greetest"

Maybe I just have shitty taste in fanfics.
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>>25890120
oh, well when they're like that then sure, but when they're normal names i don't see the problem

though i seriously saw someone on a site use a name like that in a story and it completely ripped me out of any illusion of a story that might have happened
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>>25890120
you're comparing a 9 year old meme kid to what I assume to be real human adults with at least some form of brains
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>>25890399
Cringey Mary Sues don't have an age limit.

Even reasonable names make me feel like I'm intruding on a private affair.
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>>25890702
not the character's the 8 year olds who think they're cool when they make them
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Aw fuk ye my copy of EoS and GtI came in the mail earlier today. Now I can finish the series. I'll play Sky first, of course.
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Just started Super Mystery Dungeon. Never really got into this series and I've tried a few times but for whatever reason this one has my attention.

Still in the early game (about to go to Glittering Mountain with Deerling and Espurr, should I be clearing levels completely for XP or is it okay to just go straight for the stairs? I'm at level 10 so far.
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>>25891142
>Tfw remember having Red Rescue Team on my GBA SP
>Tfw remember it being my favourite game
>Tfw I'll never forget how it was stolen
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>>25891157
Clear floors for EXP
Every single floor just go to every single room, then the stairs
Seriously, you're going to need it for the long run
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>>25891157
Levels aren't a big deal in Super, you can clear the game at a pretty low level (I did at 23 the first time). Later, you'll be getting points for doing missions and stuff, and you get points for ever floor you reach the stairs for. The amount depends on the dungeon, but it's worth it more for the items you can potentially get. Inventory is limited, but deposit box storage is unlimited, so stock up on as many items as you want.
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>>25891157
Clearing every floor takes way too much time, and I would always find items that I didn't have any room for anyway, so unless I had room to spare or wanted to stock up a little on Emeras, I would just head for the stairs.
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>>25891338
Clearing floors only matters in the Sacred Ruins if you want to actually survive in my experience.
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>>25891381
>360 noscoped by bellossom
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What stats should I have when I attempt to clear Mysterious Geoglyph? I've got around 90 Sp. Def and these Genesect are cleanly two shotting me.
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