>Edit @ 00:27: Masuda confirmed on the show, jokingly in response to Shoko Nakagawa's question, that there will be over 10 Pokémon in the games
GEN FUCKING 7
jokingly
New Pokemon does not mean new generation.
will be about 12 megas
>>25808904
Yes it does, you fucking retard.
>>25808904
Another 6.5 fag
>>25808904
why not?
New Generation = New Pokémon
not the other way around, retards
>>25808904
It has always meant this.
>>25808904
Idiot confirmed
>>25808904
Yes it does, that's literally the definition.
>>25808969
give me an instance where new pokemon =/= new generation
protip
you can't
>inb4 new forms
>>25808904
>>25808983
My definition of a generation means new region :^)
>>25808911
Fuck mega evolution.
New Pokémon only matter.
>>25808904
This.
>>25808942
because mechanics could be the same and it could battle with XY and ORAS, meaning gen 6.
>>25808904
AYYYYYY
>>25808969
shut the fuck up and get over it its gen 7 faggot
>>25808877
he didn't even say 10 "new" pokemon, just 10 pokemon.
>>25809011
gen 3 remakes
new megas
>>25808904
>this is what sunfags actually believe
>>25808877
>jokingly
He said more than 10.
Get fucked.
Gen 6.5 is on its way.
>>25809052
megas are forms, not new pokemon
>>25808969
>A equals B but B does not equal A
Go and learn what transitive logic is you retard.
>>25808911
>>25808938
>>25808941
>>25808942
>>25808974
>>25808977
>muh pattern
Generation = overworld graphisms
Masuda said he wanted to surprise, and introducing a dozen of new pokemon in the middle of a generation does that
10 confirmed.
Pikachu in game confirmed.
And Masuda is a sunfag.
>>25809043
How are they gonna battle if there's new Pokemon.
>>25809011
See >>25809052 and things like Hoopa Unbound / B2/W2 Kyurem forms.
Literally whole new designs, whole new stats, whole new in the code, yet you're always denying it saying "it's not a new mon lmao retard!!"
>>25809066
Yes, jokingly more than 10.
Which means A LOT more than 10.
>>25808904
When has a new generation not had new Pokemon
>>25809098
FORMS
ARE
NOT
NEW
POKEMON
>>25809074
Then why aren't they in rbygscrsedpptbwb2w2xy fagget
>>25808877
He's merely bracing us for disappointment when there's only 30 new Pokemon, anon.
>>25809052
New Megas =/= new pokemon.
>>25809049
>Masuda confirmed on the show, jokingly in response to Shoko Nakagawa's question, that there will be over 10 new Pokémon in the games
>over 10 new Pokemon
>>25808904
Depends.
Generation is a fan term, but if they add in new starters/new professor, it'll be a new gen.
If it is a new gen, I hope you can battle against your ORAS/XY trainer like how you could battle your RBY character on GSC.
>>25808877
Look on Serebii, the "?" is gone.
6.5 FAGS BTFO
>>25809080
We haven't seen the overworld, pleb.
>>25809075
>new mons
>expected new gen
>isn't new gen, but still new mons
>new generation
>expected new mons
>is new gen, but no new mons
Which of these are more realizable? I bet you're gonna think the latter is more logical because that's what retards do.
>new region
>new pokemon
>new characters
>new legendaries
>new starters
>IT'S NOT A NEW GENERASHION
It was asked for which edition the developers would decide. Shigeru Omori called Pokémon Moon, Junichi Masuda and Shigeki Morimoto chose Pokémon sun.
>>25809049
She asked if there would be new Pokemon
He said yes
She asked how many
He said more than 10.
>>25809052
>megas
>remakes
kys
>>25809097
People honestly think they are going to cuck all the new pokemon just so it can battle with a three year old game
>>25809156
Serebii isn't law. He's just going to be BTFO later.
>>25809075
That's actually not what transitivity means. You mean symmetry.
>>25809097
Same way ORAS battled with new megas
>>25809176
Confirmed
Confirmed
Confirmed, most likely
Confirmed, most likely
Not confirmed
>>25809156
WITNESSED
HE WASNT JOKING YOU FAGGOT
HE CONFIRMED THIS IS STILL GEN 6
FUCKING FAGS EATING ANY SHIT THEY HEAR
>>25809221
Megas are different from new Pokemon. You couldn't battle Gen V with Gen IV despite being on the same system.
>>25809269
ARRRRITE
>>25809293
>Megas are different from new Pokemon
Not really. Either way they're incompatible things you have to remove from your party before battling. SM will be the same with new Pokemon.
>>25809156
>>25809269
SEREBII IS ALWAYS RIGHT
GEN 7 CONFIRMED
>>25809191
You fools.
I don't get it. Why would you guys assume this isn't gen 7 after 3 years of the previous gen? This would be entirely normal.
>>25809315
>SM will be the same with new Pokemon
Proofs?
>>25809080
Gen 4 and Gen 5.
>>25809292
You do realize that there are a lot of numbers bigger than 10 right? It could literally be anywhere from 11 new Pokemon to 12 million and beyond.
What if 10 new legendary pokemon?
>>25809293
>You couldn't battle Gen V with Gen IV despite being on the same system.
System isn't really what matters, it's the battle mechanics of a generation.
>>25808877
Are you retarded?
Gen 6.5 is the only logically conclusion to the revealation that only a dozen of new pokemon will be in the games
We already knew there would be new pokemon (the bird)
Now we also know that there wont be enough of them to be a new gen
>>25809315
>Honestly believes GF will fuck over all the new pokemon like that
>This retarded
>This delusional
>This desperate
>>25809315
>Introducing entire new Pokemon and making it impossible to battle with them
Yeah, no.
>>25809191
cry moar
>>25809367
is wireframe bird a legendary?
>>25808904
you're an absolute retard and should probably rethink suicide
>>25809386
Tell that to X/Y.
They're going to reveal 10 new mons today.
>>25809367
Unlikely..
Does Masuda piss anyone else off? He goes on his own fucking show and doesn't say anything, even when they ask him for questions. He gives hurr le funny answers. Why even go on it? He basically just sat there and refused to answer, like he didn't want to be on his own fucking show.
>>25809315
Even if you can battle them, how is a new set of Pokemon not the next generation of Pokemon? They can be compatible all they want, but if there are new Pokemon, then it's a new generation to me. There will be Pokemon (not just mega formes of exisitng Pokemon) in SM that didn't exist at all the time of XYORAS. They didn't come into being at the same time as the Gen 6 Pokemon, so they are--by definition--a part of a new generation. It sounds better; it makes logical sense--why do people want to call it something clunky that makes it sound like garbage?
>>25809423
[CONFIDENTIAL FACE]
>>25809347
Because this is the youngest board on the site along with /pol/ and is very easy to bait.
>>25809423
Nope. I'm neutral about all that.
>>25809379
>only a dozen
>jokingly said more than 10
Youre fucking retarded, theyre not just going to release 10 new pokemon
itll be around 70 again
>>25809098
Do either forms or megas have their own pokedex numbers?
ANSWER THE QUESTION.
>>25809408
>megas are entire new pokemon
>>25809121
Same reason giratina origin form isn't in DP.
>>25808904
>new
OP did not say anything about new pokemon.
>>25809474
Masuda did.
>>25809451
I dont know what retard translated it for you but I am Japanese and he saids "around 10" (not "more than")
>>25809381
Fuck them over how?
>>25809454
It's the same. fucking. shit. Either way it's a new thing with new type/stats/abilities everyone wants to use. It's the same consequence but you gen 7 fags are getting too hung up over semantics instead of what it actually means.
>>25809156
>trusting serebii
>>25809080
\So does starting a new Gen before a story is over :)
>>25809498
You're not Japanese. He said more than.
>>25809518
cry me a river
>>25809516
>Here is 70 new pokemon, but if you want to play people online, you can use them because think of the XYORAS crowd
>>25809516
Formes aren't new Pokemon. Do you understand how stupid it would be to create an entirely new Pokemon from scratch and not be able to battle with it? In a fucking Pokemon game?
>>25809474
New generation = New Pokémon.
>>25809453
>>25809454
>>25809572
>not knowing the file structure because you don't have an exploted 3DS
It's only your fault. Not gonna explain how they're new because they are in the same kind of slots that all other mons are all over again.
Besides, your argument is limited to the dex, mine's limited to every single crook of the romfs.
Ah, see >>25809516
>still implying Black/White Kyurem weren't new when B2/W2 came out
>still believing that Hoopa Unbound existed in X/Y
>still clinging on to the delusion that assumes OR/AS megas are in X/Y secretly or something
>>25809565
wha
>>25809498
Wrong.
>>25809518
Joe has only posted wrong shit on SEREBII, like what, twice? He's very accurate most of the time, why would someone not trust him?
>>25809498
pretty sure he said 以上
>Serebii: Wow, actually seeing some people try and blame me for this?
Hahaha could he be any more retarded? How the fuck does he manage to run an entire website?
Serebii edited in "new Pokemon" instead of just "Pokemon".
>>25809590
It's way more than twice.
>>25809597
None of your f#### business.
>>25809572
>Do you understand how stupid it would be to create an entirely new Pokemon from scratch and not be able to battle with it?
Uh...you mean like every new gen game? This time you'll just have the option to battle with XY and ORAS still.
>>25809565
You can still use ORAS megas on ORAS online retard
>>25809580
Only idiots would believe this.
>>25809580
/thread
>>25809597
What do you mean?
>>25809635
Backwards...
Only idiots wouldn't believe it.
>>25809635
Here is something has been true 100% of the time everytime for the past 20 years
>You believe it your an idiot
Huh?
>>25809584
>datamining
New Pokemon are determined by dex. Not coding.
What's in this thread?
Oh, gen 6.5 fags STILL getting BTFO. It saddens me that some are holding onto so much hope.
>B-but my pattern breaking!
>B-but my 3DS!
>B-but my mechanics!
Most autistic thing I've ever seen. It's a new gen faggots, get over it.
>>25809647
6th generation of Pokémon is dead and gone. Move on and accept reality.
>>25809635
prove it otherwise then
Look at all these 6.5 retards changing their own rules.
>>25809670
By Pokédex numbers.
Actually..
>>25809692
Nobody's changing rules. It's compatibility and battle mechanics that decide a gen.
>>25809635
>>25809670
>>25809703
You're not really the one to decide that, but if you're so goddamn cool
Dex is in code
Dex is also just a tool of convenience
Grouping doesn't matter
>denying the fact that Hoopa Unbound is new
If Magearna was a form change of Diancie, you would cry "NOT NEW, NOT NEW", correct?
It's confirmed between Gen 6.5 to Gen 7
>>25809635
Are you the smogon elitist who thinks mechanics make the gen because smogon said so?
Pls go 6.5 fag, very few people agree with your philosophy
>>25809710
>this retard again
>>25809723
>very few people
>most of this board
>>25809723
>THE DEFINITION IS ON SMOGON'S SITE
>H-HE MUST BE A SMOGONFAG FOR USING IT
HOLY SHIT, anon are you a fucking retard
Assumptions are exactly what gen 7 fags are going at, you're basically proving that at this point
>>25809710
No please, really it's THE GODDAMN POKEDEX.Really, go fuck yourself with a shovel
>>25809710
>>25809710
You heard it here first guys! GS are Gen 1.5 and ORAS is Gen 6.5!
>>25809692
>changing their own rules.
What are you even onto?
We knew there were new pokemon since SM were announced
The presence of new pokemon is the very reason why people call it 6.5 insted of just 6
If anything, Masuda hinting that there will be only around a dozen of them confirm 6.5
>>25809718
A new forme will function as new Pokemon due to coding as this is a video game. It doesn't mean formes actually are new Pokemon.
If it has the same Dex number than it isn't a new Pokemon.
>>25809756
well, technically of GS is 1.5, ORAS would be 5.5
>>25809756
>"GEN SIX POINT FIVE"
Wish this meme could FUCKING DIE
It's "GENERATION SIX", god fucking damn
gen 7 fag logic
>if they release Z version but added one new pokemon it's a new gen
>if they ever decide to do DLC and add a pokemon it's a new gen even if it was already established as another gen
>WHAT? THE ACTUAL PROPERTIES OF THE GAME AND HOW IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER GAMES? NAH THAT'S RIDICULOUS, THAT ONE NEW POKEMON MAKES IT A NEW GEN
>>25809768
He said over 10, not around a dozen.
He also said Pikachu would be in the game.
>>25809768
>only around a dozen
He said more than 10. Not around a dozen.
>>25809723
I'm a Smogonfag and believe that this is Gen 7.
>>25808877
New Pokemon were confirmed a long time ago. I don't see how that says anything.
>>25809074
They've called megas/formes new pokemon in the past. Mewtwo Y was referred as a 'new pokemon' before the release of mega evolution. Origine Giratina when only its art was first shown was said to possibly be giratina or a new pokemon entirely before being revealed as a new forme after platinum was officially shown. Not saying this couldn't still be hinting actual new pokemon but Gamefreak has pulled this shit before and I can see people feeling suspicious till they see these 'new pokemon' for themselves.
>>25809756
No because GS has different battle mechanics and it can't battle with RBY. Fuck off.
>>25809796
Not "one" new pokemon, A NEW FUCKING POKEDEX.
Is there gonna be footage or what?
>>25808904
>6.5 fags are this retarded
>>25809718
Diancie and Magearna look nothing alike look.
>>25809796
None of that would ever happen. Especially
>Gamefreak releasing DLC
>>25809777
>what the game says game =/= what the game says
Okay, reply to this and then I'll draw some conclusion I just realized I've not posted in a while
Is the gen 6.5 thing just a joke or are there actual autists who genuinely believe in it?
>>25809823
Why doesn't one new Pokemon count as a pokedex?
>>25809796
Gen 6.5 fag logic
>make a new game that is the exactly the same as the last one except you can't trade or battle witht the old games
>Omg a new gen
>>25809796
My logic is new Pokemon and New Region means new Gen.
>>25809799
>>25809805
Keep grasping at straws
He could have said more then 50 or more than 100, or even "many" if he wanted to evade the question.
He said more than 10
>>25809819
But it's partially compatible, so it's partially Gen 1 by YOUR FUCKING LOGIC
>>25809156
>serebii removed question mark
Um, ok. Who cares? What does that mean?
>>25809834
>If it has the same Dex number than it isn't a new Pokemon.
So you're saying that I missed out on a whole fucking generation because I skipped X and Y because of Z and I didn't buy ORAS because I only picked up my first Pokemon game, Emerald, in 2010?
After all these years I'm STILL on Gen V?
Fuck you, Gen 7 fags.
>>25809831
>None of that would ever happen.
Yeah just like adding a couple of moves mid gen would never happen too, am I right?
>>25809830
Of course they're not really the same in looks, but that's not what the argument is.
>>25809844
Not in battle mechanics, son. That's literally the strongest consistent thing and has always been.
Wait, is it over? I just got home.
>>25809843
Because there will be more than 10
>new Pokemon
>new game names
>new region
>new mechanics (vehicles)
>3 years after the previous generation
>not a new region
>>25809844
>partially compatible
But not battle compatible. AND the mechanics are different. Notice how I put compatibility AND mechanics there bub?
>>25809838
Do you know what's a regional Pokedex? It's what was added every new gen. It requires several new Pokémon and it's been the only real requirement for a new gen since 1996
>>25809843
He said it as a joke. As in "of course there's more than 10 Pokemon!"
>Keep grasping at strawsLOL
>>25809844
Your "counter" logic is that
>FRLG is Gen 3.1
>Emerald is Gen 3.2
>DP is Gen 3.3
>Platinum is Gen 3.4
>HGSS is Gen 3.5
>BW is Gen 3.6
>BW2 is Gen 3.7
>XY is Gen 3.8
>ORAS is Gen 3.9
>>25809867
>new pokemon
>new game names
Yeah confirmed
>everything else
Not confirmed m8. We will have to wait.
>>25809853
>new moves and new pokemon are the exact same thing
>>25809877
>It requires several new Pokémon
Says who?
It's funny how you gen 7 fags are pulling this shit yet you're accusing gen 6/6.5 fags of changing their rules when they're not.
>NEW POKEMON = NEW GEN GUISE!
>so if they made Z with a new Pokemon that would be a new gen?
>D-DOESN'T COUNT!
>>25809873
and you know that XY & ORAS are battle compatible with S&M, how?
>>25809898
>>new moves and new pokemon are the exact same thing
They don't have to be the same thing to invalidate your patternfagging.
>>25809895
So a new region, vehicles, and being 3 years after the previous gen is wrong? All of that is verifiably true.
>>25809900
Dude, it's been LIKE THIS SINCE 1996. Now you half-fags arrive and decide all by yourselves our TWENTY-FUCKIN'-YEARS pattern is going to change. WITHOUT ANY PROOF.
Gen 6.5 fags are now arguing just because they don't want to admit they're wrong. Its over. I'm not going to rip on you for being wrong, just shut the fuck up from now on.
>>25809852
>So you're saying because I haven't bought any of the 4 games that have released over the last 3 years you aren't going to make a fifth because I lack the capacity to go out and purchase one of the 4?
Yes anon, that is the case here.
>>25809924
They do to prove your theory true.
>>25809906
pentagon and zygarde moves
>>25809900
You're assuming this is 6.5 based on nothing. Literally nothing. Like
>HEY GUYS WHAT IF
And then believing yourselves.
>>25809928
Just ignore them. They're in denial.
>>25809946
God stone
>>25808904
This. Why do you retards think it's called gen 6.5 and not simply gen 6? Because we knew there would be new Pokemon, to fix XY's suspiciously low Pokemon count. baka senpai
>>25809946
You'll need to explain yourself better, anon.
>>25809851
Okay
Remove the "Pokémon" and everything that it implies from "New Pokémon"
Are you saying that, as the same example again, but still; Hoopa Unbound is
>not a new design
>not introducing new moves
>not having different stats
>not different from regular Hoopa
>not new
Are you claiming all of this?
If you're gonna say like "Oh, but it's a new form, not a new Pokémon", then I gotta ask you this:
Is a form a Pokémon?
Don't argue about "new" if you're gonna argue what and what isn't a Pokémon, but seriously. Is a form a Pokémon or not? We're talking about the core fundamentals of what is a Pokémon here.
>>25809946
Pentagon only makes sense if sunmoon will be able to send BACK pokemon, which didn't happen since gen2. Since they said VC games will not be able to trade with gen6 but only with sunmoon, your argument is invalid. Pentagon doesn't mean shit.
>>25809961
I know, but ... it's SO HARD :(
>>25809926
>vehicles
We don't know if it's going to be a new mechanic or just mere decoration
>new region
Again, not confirmed.
>3 years
I wasn't including that part actually. My bad.
>>25808904
>Being this much in denial
>>25809946
Both literally, actually, and in entirety mean nothing
>>25809936
The thing is that literally nothing has changed compared to before we watched this
New pokemon were confirmed since SM were released, 6.5fags think SM will have few new pokemon to "complete" the current Gen 6 dex
>>25809978
>Remove the "Pokémon" and everything that it implies from "New Pokémon"
But that's the entire point.
>>25809098
Masuda said atleast 10 new POKEMON not 10 new Forms you thick cunt
>>25809938
How did you feel when you bought Ruby or Sapphire then you found out that Emerald came out two years later?
How did you feel that you bought either Diamond or Pearl and found out that Platinum came out two years later?
You could've had a way better experience on a better game. That's why I waited out.
>>25809074
Except Masuda literally just referred to Megas mentioned by the hosts as "more than 10 new Pokemon". Stop being retarded.
>>25809980
They won't see logic. At all.
>>25809996
Read the post.
>>25810005
get_on_the_point.wav
>>25809796
gen 6.5 fag logic
>if they release z and change one mechanic its a new gen
>if they ever decide to do dlc and add a new weather type its a new gen even if it was already established as another gen
>WHAT? THE POKEDEX AND HOW ITS ALWAYS BEEN USED TO DEFINE GENERATIONS? NAH THATS RIDICULOUS, THIS ONE NEW MECHANIC MAKES IT A NEW GEN.
I blame TyranitarTube for these Gen 6.5 fags he was spreading it on Youtube
I know he likely didn't come up with it, but still ]
Funny thing is even he says this is Gen 7 now
>>25809978
A form is part of a Pokemon. Most Pokemon have only one form, some have several.
No matter how many forms you give Rotom, it's still only one Pokemon.
>>25809453
zzz
>>25809315
Megas don't have their own Pokedex slot
>>25809980
>Since they said VC games will not be able to trade with gen6 but only with sunmoon,
This doesn't confirm trading SM<->XY. It only confirms RBY->SM.
Dream Radar only works -> BW2 but that doesn't mean I can't send Dream Radar mons using DR->BW2->BW.
>>25809991
They mean plenty.
>>25810024
>>if they release z and change one mechanic its a new gen
Yes, because that means compatibility will break and it won't work with XY and ORAS. Makes sense to me.
so how would the 6/6.5 people feel if there was new region, new pokemon, no new mechanics, and looks the same as gen 6 but gf or masuda confirm that its gen 7
>>25809858
Mega evolution is just the Super Saiyan of Pokémon Universe.
It's a old Pokémon with new abilities and just a limited time transformation.
Before we shitpost further, we gotta actually define what a "Pokémon" is because of these amazing arguments over definitions.
>b-but megas are new Pokemon, since ORAS introduced new Megas then new Pokemon means Sun/Moon is still gen 6.5
No, they're forms. From a programming perspective, sure, they take up the same amount of space as a new Pokemon. But new forms have been introduced in the middle of a generation since gen 4 and it was never considered to be a new generation then. No-one said that Origin-Giratina meant Platinum was gen 5. No-one said that Kyurem-Black meant Black 2 was gen 6.
>>25810046
So what? The consequence is the same.
>>25809966
God stone is for Kygrem
>Literally new pokemon
>It's not a new generation
Explain this shit. I cannot possibly grasp the logic behind this
>>25810048
THEY LITERALLY MEAN NOTHING!!
Pentagon slots are "just in case" codes that's in everygame and unused content LITERS Pokemon
>>25810046
So? They're referred to as "new Pokemon" in all official media. Only dumbass fanbases like /vp/ believe they aren't because of some arbitrary condition they chose on random.
>>25810048
Not the same thing since it involves the bank.
They clearly stated VC > Bank > SunMoon. If something is in the bank, you could trade in all games bank-compatible, right? Unless bank get updated for gen7. You can't send back pokemon to gen5 via bank, but the game is bank compatible.
>>25810080
>Explain this shit. I cannot possibly grasp the logic behind this
Mechanics. Gen 6 people argue that if the multiplayer mechanics are unchanged and it can still battle with XY and ORAS then it's still gen 6 because ORAS already added megas and moves mid-gen.
>>25810079
And the unused moves are for Zygarde.
Yet the God Stone was never used.
>>25810075
>tfw localisation never
>>25810020
I don't have to. To remove the Pokemon and everything it implies from new Pokemon means you're not talking about about new Pokemon.
>>25809946
>muh pentagon
I bet you think there was actually a Mew under the truck too. All games usually leave unused/unfinished content in the final release and Pokemon is no exception. Hell, did you not see how much shit people datamined from the ORAS demos?
>>25810107
I already have a Zygarde with It's signature moves
>>25810049
They'll kill themselves.
>>25810005
new forms are also "new Pokemon" from gamefreak's/TPCi perspective
fucking kyurem forms were called new Pokemon before
is this your first pre-release hype season or what?
>>25810135
Because you injected it, faggot.
>>25808877
But it's called Gen 6.5 exactly because there's going to be new pokemon, but still in the same gen.
You people shout "RETARD" at any moment you can but you don't even understand the arguments of the other side.
I honestly don't understand the whole Gen 6.5 thing. First they say since it allegedly takes south of Kalos, it is part of the same region and thus an extension of XY a la B2W2. But G&S takes place immediately west of Kanto, yet is its own region and is Gen2. Even so we are teased a new pokemon, the bird, and then they claim it is still an extension of the gen6 pokedex and as such is gen6.5. Now they're arguing that since Zygardes moves are related to S&M(???) and there is a similar icons for the pokedex(???) that means that it is possible to battle against XY &ORAS and as such is gen6.5? Did I cover everything?
>>25810080
If it has the same overworld graphisms and models as XY/ORAS and is a direct sequel to them but has like 15 (to stay within what Masuda hinted) new pokemon, is that a new gen to you?
>>25810104
>They clearly stated VC > Bank > SunMoon
No. It talks about "direct" transferring. It literally says >"Note that Pokémon cannot be moved directly from Pokémon Red, Pokémon Blue, and Pokémon Yellow to Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, or Pokémon Y via Pokémon Bank."
>cannot be moved directly
>directly
That part implies you can just leave it in Bank and THEN put it in XYORAS or somehow you're forced to put it directly into SM via something related to Bank and you can trade with XY and ORAS later.
>>25810129
I have no reason to assume the data is unfinished right now.
>>25809980
>Since they said VC games will not be able to trade with gen6 but only with sunmoon, your argument is invalid.
Gee, I wonder why. It's almost as if they're trying to get people to buy their newest rehash instead of actually patching in shit for players convenience.
>>25810104
They stated RBY(VC) can't directly connect to ORAS and XY, only transferable to Sun and Moon.
>>25810080
If new Pokémon is enough to make a generation despite the games the new Pokémon are in, then events like Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion are new gens by your defintion.
Let's define what constitutes a Pokemon.
To do that, let's ask a simple question:
How many Pokemon are there?
>>25810162
New regional dex=New gen
>>25809080
>muh pattern
>every single fucking game that wasn't a remake
here's your bait
It's the 20th year of Pokemon.
It's not going to be Gen 6.
It's not going to be just Gen 7.
It's going to be something more special.
>mfw gen 6.5fags keep moving the goalposts even further and further and further until we're in gen 8
>>25810196
Diance, Hoopa and Volcanion were in the games from day one you autist
>>25810182
No, they clearly stated VC > Bank > SunMoon.
>>25810192
This is exactly my point, actually
>>25810196
Diancie Hoopa and Volcanion are all in X&Y.
>>25810157
faggot?
I don't like males.
>>25810227
>No, they clearly stated VC > Bank > SunMoon.
But they didn't clearly state VC > Bank > XY or VC > SunMoon > XY.
>>25810220
Nobody's moving goalposts. Nothing has deconfirmed compatibility/mechanics yet. When it does I'll admit it's gen 7.
Reminder that ORAS had new Pokemon and it was still gen 6
>>25810248
New Pokémon = New generation.
>>25810220
Except literally nothing as changed
Gen 6.5 fags are Gen 6.5fags and not just Gen 6 fags precisely because we knew there would be new pokemon since the very moment the trailer was revealed
>>25810220
What goalposts.
We always knew there would be new Pokemon, that's like the main fucking point behind gen 6.5.
>>25808877
well its official gamefreak couldn't be bothered to include all the pokemon so they just used the 11 most common ones at vgc.
>>25810255
ORAS didn't have new pokemon, you dipshit. Just new forms.
>>25810248
You can't transfer VC to XY.
In X&Y there was 721 Pokemon.
In ORAS there was 721 Pokemon.
>>25810255
Mega evolution are transformation forms of Old Pokémon.
>>25810261
We already knew there would be new pokemon since february
Has it ever ended a 6.5/7 debates before tonight?
What exactly is different now?
>>25810269
Wait that's a good point. Did his response specify _new_ Pokemon or just Pokemon?
>>25810286
6.5 has been deconfirm.
>>25810278
Except this was never said
All we known is that we can tranfer from VC to SM and from XY to SM
Nothing says we can't from VC to XY/ORAS
Sun & Moon are so clearly Gen7 it's amusing people actually defend Gen6.5 at all.
>>25810289
He specified "over ten new pokemon"
>>25810304
If anything that's the contrary
6.5 relied on the fact there would be few new pokemon
Masuda said around 10
>>25810289
Yes, they were explicitly talking about new Pokemon.
She asked how many new Pokemon there would be.
>people unironically believe its gen 6.5
>new pokemon, new region, new adventure
>trailer shows all GENERATIONS AND it ends with "It all comes together in SUN & MOON!"
absolute delusion and fuck you faggots for wanting XY AGAIN with some shitty extra post game for $40
>>25810310
Except it was fucking confirmed right on the official site you fucking clueless-
just fucking look
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-sun-and-pokemon-moon/
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/#pokemon-sun-pokemon-moon
>Note that Pokémon cannot be moved directly from Pokémon Red, Pokémon Blue, and Pokémon Yellow to Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, or Pokémon Y via Pokémon Bank.
oh what the fuck is that?hurrrrr
No, it didn't. It assumed there would be enough to compensate for the low amount in X/Y. That would take about 30.
>>25810265
Why, people the gen is "incomplete"? The reason why there's so few Pokemon is because of megas, I though that was obvious.
>>25810326
It's over. 6.5 theory has been deconfirm.
Accept reality.
>>25810278
>You can't transfer VC to XY.
But it didn't confirm if you can VC to SunMoon then XY.
>>25810335
Yeah why the fuck do people even *want* more of X/Y? It was shit just like Gen V.
>>25810339
>BUT MUH POKEMON COULD BE MOVED BETWEEN SM TO XY, THEY NEVER SAID THEY COULDN'T
denialfags at their best. damn, i hate them so much.
>over 10 new pokemon
>the 3 starters and their lines + plus robot + plus bird
>11
how about that
>>25810335
>new pokemon
yes
>new region
southern kalos (under a different name)
>new adventure
yes
>absolute delusion and fuck you faggots for wanting XY AGAIN with some shitty extra post game for $40
don't buy it if you don't like it
oh wait, you still will
Since everybody is shitposting why not help me
does anyone has a icon for pokemon sun like this one on the same size and everything and maybe the 3 second sound of pokemon Y
im working on something
>>25810339
lmao
