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>Single stage Pokemon that will never have an evolution because
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>Single stage Pokemon that will never have an evolution because it has a mega
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>What is Snorunt
>hurr they made the mega after giving two evolutions

Doesn't matter. They proved that one thing doesn't cancel out the other automatically.
Chill.
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I don't mind single stage Pokemon getting megas when the mega is actually GOOD and there's a benefit from the non mega ability. Sableye and Mawile did this perfectly.

They shouldn't do more trash like Audino though
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>>25764921
Aerodactyl
Pinsir
Heracross
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>>25764945
That's completely different. Snorunt doesn't have a mega. Glalie does.
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>>25764921
Rip audino you deserved better
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>>25764921
explain slowbro
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>>25765024
You need to try a diferent bait m8
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>>25764921
why are megas a thing
so stupid
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>>25765015
Maybe they will make the mega a regular evolution , but we all know that won't happen.
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>>25764921
>tfw you wish mega absol was just its evo
;_;
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I`d love if single stage pokemon had a mega and a regular evo, so its a choice between power and versatility, although sadly this will only happen with some special snowflake pokemon
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>>25764921
>tfw i fist saw this and though it was a regular evolution
>10/10 design
>Turns out it's a mega
>"th-that's cool, maybe it'll be good"
>It's shit
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Basically all the 1 or 2 stage Megas need to be retconned into actual evolutions EXCEPT
>Gyarados
>Mewtwo
>Scizor
>Sableye
>Mawile
>Rayquaza
>Lucario
>Diancie

Actually I wish Carbink, Diancie, and Mega Diancie were retconned to be a regular evolutionary family tbqh
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>>25764921
>Single stage Pokemon that will never have an evolution because it has a mega

>Single Stage pokemon that used to not evolve, but through some horrible MONKEY PAW CURSE Gamefreak decided to give it an evolution and it's some horrible fucking down-syndrome abomination.

You should be careful what you fucking wish for, Anon.
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>>25764961
There was a 0% chance aerocdactyl and pinsir were getting evos, if gamefreak wanted to do that they would've done it in the 20 years since those pokemon have existed
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>>25765556
For all the shit gen 4 evos got, I think I like more of them than I dislike
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>>25764921
>cross gen evos are hated
>"alright lets add megas"
>"wah, we won't get cross gen evos now"
Make up your minds you twats
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>>25766221
>/vp/ is one person
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Mega evolution needs to be retconned.
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>>25766257
Nice meme, cunt
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>>25765556

Well, at least it opens up the option of Eviolite.

>cross gen evos are hated

>Crobat, Bellossom, Politoed, Slowking, Steelix, Kingdra, Scizor, Porygon2, Porygon-Z, all the Eevees past the original 3, Yanmega, Gliscor, Weavile, Mamoswine, Roserade, Froslass, Togekiss
>Hated

The only ones that are constantly mentioned in the negative are Rhyperior, Magmortar, Probopass, Lickilicky, and sometimes Electivire. And the babies I guess, but I hardly even count those pointless fuckers. The others range from likable to "don't care about" for most people.
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>>25766305
thanks
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>>25766221
we like the IDEA of cross gen evoloutions
doesn't mean that the execution of them is 100% flawless all the time.
just because (gen 4) has a lot of turds in regaurds to cross gen evoloutions, doesn't make the concept as a whole bad.
also see >>25766257
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I do like how with megas single stage pokemon have a shot at becoming retardedly powerful.
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>>25766315
>gen 4 had turds
Literally only Ambipom and Lickylicky. Most the gen IV cross evos are great. I feel the same for megas. I don't hate either and think they can coexist easily. What I hate is /vp/'s contradictory bullshit that they pull all the fucking time.
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>>25766369
Literally
>/vp/ is one person
It turns out, different people on this board disagree, you fucknut. Do you want this to be a fucking hivemind or some shit?
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>>25765363

on the other hand mega mawile and sableye are stronger than any conventional evo they would have gotten. meanwhile cross-gen evos like magmortar and rhyperior are still garbage.

it can always be buffed in the future. mega is far from a death sentence.
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>gamefreak will never retcon the single stage pokemon that got megas into regular evolutions with reasonable nerfs to make them more balanced
>they will never nerf the eviolite boost or even remove it entirely with this change so that faggots will stop complaining about the possibility of Sableye and Audino being able to use one
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>>25766397

>Wanting Eviolite nerfed or removed.
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>>25766408
Why do people dislike eviolite? Because it makes some prevos more viable than full evolved shitmons?
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>>25766507
There's Chansey, Dusclops and I guess you can count Porygon2, even though it and Porygon-Z occupy different niches

That's prretty pathetic considering the amount of NFEs
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>>25765577
>if gamefreak wanted to do that they would've done it in the 20 years since those pokemon have existed
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>>25764945
The fuck are you babbling about?
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>>25764945
Snorunt was never a single stage pokemon.
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The only problem I have with most cross gens and mega evos is that they just got really fat.

For example, Crobat. Ultra awesome.
Togekiss, fat piece of lard.

Basically, any of the Pokémon that got obesity through either evolution look like shit and fight like shit.
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>>25767215
But your fat example fights better then your non-fat one.
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>>25764921
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>>25765545
Are you fucking kidding?
Do you know how many Pokemon would break the game if that happened?

Did you learn nothing from Mega Ray?

Also the horrors of eviolite.
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>>25767162
Unfortunately, the 4th-gen evos were so widely maligned at the time that it'll probably never happen again besides Eevee.

Which is a shame, since although there were some bad ones (rhyperior, magmortar, etc.) there were also a lot of great ones (roserade, yanmega, etc.)
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>>25766307
>The only ones that are constantly mentioned in the negative are Rhyperior, Magmortar, Probopass, Lickilicky, and sometimes Electivire
And Ambipom
And Tangrowth
And, apparently unknown to you, Mamoswine
And Probopass
And Dusknoir

Pretty much the majority of the complaints are with the Gen 4 evos either doing nothing to make the pokemon better or making it better at the cost of a hideous design.
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>>25767485
>Tangrowth
Well its not like you can do much with ol spaghetti shoes.
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>>25767505
Doesn't make it any less lazy
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>>25764921
I really like what was done for Mega Absol. Taking a pokemon with a heavy physical offensive bent and shitty bulk, trying to make it mixed, giving it an ability that works best on a pokemon with high staying power, and then neglecting to increase its defenses at all.

Actually I don't like it at all. It's rather telling that most Mega Absols don't even bother with special attacks.
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>>25767457
>Rhyperior
>Bad
Bruh, Give that guy Solid Rock with a Weakness Policy and use Rock Polish first turn. If you live a hit which you most likely will and it's super effective the other team is fucked.
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>>25766507
They think eviolite is why we don't get crossgen evos anymore because the prevos would be "broken".

Even though we already have the literal worst case scenario when it comes to things using eviolite, chansey. Only thing I can think of that would come nearly as close is possibly clefable.
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>>25767485
>Lickilicky
>Electivire
>Tangrowth
>Mamoswine
>Probopass
>Dusknoir
>Bad
>Even unpleasant
Fuck you, nigga.
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>>25767485
I've never seen anything negative about Mamoswine, that guy's a bro.
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>>25767515
>Hating based vine sasquatch
Vine sasquatch is a treasure, for one the vines are actually bundled together making it look more natural, it also has actual feet.
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>>25767706
Finally! Someone with taste!
It's great in my RU TR team.
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>>25767722
>RU TR team
kek
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>>25764921

How about we just be happy that they got a mega since they were likely never getting an evolution?

I'm tired of this "le megas ruined pokemon" meme....
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>>25764945
But what would Mega Frosslass look like?
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>>25767485
i dont understand all the hate the gen 4 evos have, i mean i guess they shouldnt have released so MANY all at once, but most of them were fucking awesome, Magmortar happens to be one of my favorite pokemon even
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>>25767485

I already mentioned Probopass right there, are you blind? Forgot Ambipom though, but I almost never see Tangrowth mentioned. Who the fuck hates Mamoswine? Only "hate" I ever see for Dusknoir is more in the disappointment that it's not as useful as just slapping Eviolite on Duskclops.
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>>25767706

My nigga, Tangrowth is literally my favorite Pokemon.

>>25767515

I have never really understood this argument. I assume you mean this in the "It just gets bigger!" sense? I like Tangela a lot. If Tangrowth had taken its design in a completely different direction, or worse, ruined it completely by having the vines retract and reveal the entire body underneath them, I wouldn't like it. Sometimes more of the same isn't a bad thing.

It's kind of like the whole Scyther/Scizor thing. Scizor is pretty cool, but I hate the fact that it changed nearly everything I liked about Scyther. Change isn't always for the better.
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>>25765015
Mega Audino successfully made Audino one of my favorite pokemon to one of my "eh," favorite pokemon. Yeah it deserved better.
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>>25765271
Look I like Mega Absol, I really do, but I wish it were designed slightly different. I mean, there's just too many curvy lines and it looks a bit too different from regular Absol.

I like the concept I just don't like how it was actually drawn.
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>>25770503
I don't hate mamoswine, but I see very often people lamenting that it dropped the covered-eyes look that piloswine and swinub had

mamoswine is functionally a good enough evolution though that most people appreciate it even if they have that complaint
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>>25767432
Most megas are shit, m8. And they could always get rid of Eviolite or nerf it to x1.25.
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>>25771266

>And they could always get rid of Eviolite or nerf it to x1.25.
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>tfw no Farfetch'd evolution
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>>25768557
>everything I don't like is a meme
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>>25767558
The real problem is that doesn't fix how shitty he looks.
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>>25770484
>Magmortar
>favorite
There's all kinds of people. Some of them, like you, are the worst kind.
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If getting rid of or needing Eviolite meant getting more cross gen evos, then bye bye Eviolite
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>>25770767

Mega Audino looks a hundred times better than normal Audino.
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>>25770813
>Mega-Absol should be edgier
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The real problem is thinking that Mega evolution precludes new permanent evolutionary stages.

Think of Mega evolution more like Armor digi-volutions - temporary increase in power into an alternate form. Mega Absol just represents what happens when an Absol has the potential and the power to evolve, but doesn't have the right catalysts for normal, permanent evolution.
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>>25774838
yes

yes it should be.

Absol itself is pure edge, it should have ascended american box art kirby and gone straight to devil may cry. Fuck you
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>Everyone forgets that Honchkrow is a cross-gen evo

Is this a good this or a bad thing?
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>>25771266
>nerf eviolite
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>>25764945
Why the fuck do people on /vp/ not know how to read?
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>>25774421

>If my argument is green it refutes his by default

By not having a point you just prove mine further
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>>25767485
I loved Dusknoir since I first saw it but Eviolite Dusclops is fucking bullshit
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