>Gen II is on very similar hardware to Gen I
>Gen V is on the same hardware as Gen IV
>Gen VII will be on the same hardware as Gen VI
Literally the only reason I'm hyped for Sun/Moon. They don't have to rush it and get used to new hardware.
>>25759589
Y-you're right!! But it remains to be seen
I think both gen 2 and gen V had a pretty awful region in terms of geographical design.
We'll never get games as good as V's again, OP.
>>25759589
Honestly I fucking loved Gen2 and 5. Yes Unova was this, yes it was that, but I still enjoyed the hell out of it and really dug the idea of an entire region of new Mons. And I for one love the cover legendaries, and feel like they're refreshingly minimalistic after Gen 4.
So it will have good mechanics but a shit region?
>>25759753
>gen 1 + 2
basic region (lets blame hardware) (habitats still made sense)
>gen 3 + 4
great region design thanks to hardware advancements
>gen 5 + 6
random region design > forced diversity (habitats make sense)
>gen 7 + 8
???
>>25759777
>Hoenn
>great region
>>25759589
Gen I = GB
Gen II = GBC
Gen III = GBA
Gen IV = DS
Gen V = DSi
Gen VI = 3DS
>>25759815
Hoenn is a diverse, natural region with nice long routes. There are also a ton of shortcuts that make traversing the world interesting. Sinnoh is similar in that regard too. Unova and Kalos are very limited regions in comparison.
>>25759859
What if I don't give a shit about linearity?
>>25759844
And
GBC is incredibly similar to GB
DSi is just a DS with more features
>>25759873
It's not about linearity, it's about making sense from a geographical standpoint
>>25759896
None of the regions make sense in that regard.
>>25759923
Wrong. reread >>>25759777
>>25759873
Then you're a minority. One of the core aspects of RPGs is exploration. If you have no interest in that then you're better off playing other genres.
>>25759934
Read this again. >>25759923
>>25759896
>it's about making sense from a geographical standpoint
No one gives a shit about this except for you and other autistic retards.
>>25759953
Unova still had a lot of offtracks while been linear, though. Still felt like you were exploring.
>>25759964
>no true scotsman
>>25759961
I did, and you're wrong.
>>25759976
It was still a huge step down from the previous two generations. BW2 fixed it a little bit, although you still pretty much only went forward throughout the whole game. I'm struggling to remember any optional areas in Unova that weren't locked behind post-game. I know that Kalos at least had Lost Hotel and Terminus Cave.
>>25759977
>I did, and you're wrong.
You haven't said why he's wrong though.
Especially given that Unova is an incredibly industrialized region compared to something like the boonies of Kanto.
>>25760091
>You haven't said why he's wrong though.
Because his statement is false.
>industrialized
Ah yes, that's why the random desert and snowstorms make sense. It's just NSMB all over again, forced diversity that doesn't make any sense. I've said it before. Don't think a common-knowledge recap is a substitute for an argument.
>>25759964
When most people play through a region, the question or concern "This region is geographically incorrect" doesn't come to their mind. Because it's a fucking video game. It isn't meant to be realistic.
Also, if you want to bring up fallacies, yours is a classic strawman.
>>25760160
Meant for >>25759977
>>25760160
>>25760177
>ad populum
>>25760197
>the fallacy fallacy
>>25760227
Nope. Neither is anything I've said a strawman.
But I humored you twice. I've given you two chances to redeem yourself. I'm positive giving you more chances won't result into the desired outcome. So I'll just leave you be in your pool of retardation.
>>25760252
>Exaggerating a claim that doesn't matter to attack a region
>Only thing you can say to defend yourself is bring up "hurr your argument is this fallacy!"
Whatever you say, anon.
Also
>ad hominem
>>25760332
>Exaggerating a claim
Stopped reading there
reread >>>25760252
>>25760122
>that's why the random desert
You do know that applies to literally every pokemon game including and after gen 3 in fact it's more reasonable in gen 5 rather than 3 and 4 due to the fact that both are within the vicinity of a volcano. The reality is that there should be a lush jungle there due to the extremely fertile soil rather than an arid desert.
As for gen 5 you do know that there are several deserts like that in places like America right? It's not exactly uncommon to see a desert like that in fact it's most likely based on the nevada desert given that Nimbasa is obviously meant to be an analog to Vegas.
>snowstorms
You mean the snowstorms that only occur during the winter?
You're right, it totally makes sense for it to be blistering hot during that time of year.
You really need to check over this information before you decide to shitpost.
>>25760341
And yet you're still replying to him thinking your obviously broken argument is correct.
>>25760509
>You do know that applies to literally every pokemon game
Okay, name your examples from gen 3 and 4.
Both scientifically and lore-wise is the placement of the desert in Hoenn on purpose and sensible. Groudon's location and it's in-game ability (being the polar opposite of Kyrogre (rain maker) is knowledge publicly avaible.). Here's the map of Hoenn. tell me about it.
>>25759844
Gold and Silver can be played on GB and Black and White can be played on DS. Your post is meaningless.
>>25760536
>>>25760341
>>25760545
>>25759844
And the games were better on GBC/DSI
Gen 7 will have N3DS features
It makes sense. Even gen 6 with overclock plays much better than the originals.
>>25759589
This. The only good pokemon games GF have made have come from years of experience with a console. I just wish they had made it N3DS exclusive so we would be guaranteed at least a steady 15 fps this time, but maybe they've finally learned to optimize.
>>25760544
>Okay, name your examples from gen 3 and 4.
I just did you idiot.
The desert literally right next to Chimney and the desert within vicinity of Stark.
Also route 113 isn't treated as a region with very rich soil like an area constantly being covered in ash should, in fact, if anything there should have been the very tall grass in that area instead of the smaller variant. If anything it should have been more reminiscent of route 119 in terms of plant life.
It's more like the volcano sprouted up overnight than it being there all along
Come to think of it the fact that there's no snow or anything of the like on the battle island is extremely ridiculous as it's further north than snowpoint, a city covered in snow due to how far north it is and the region is already a particularly cold region as shown by the snow dotted around the region in Platinum and the protagonist's clothing.
>Groudon's location and it's in-game ability (being the polar opposite of Kyrogre (rain maker) is knowledge publicly avaible.)
None of this has anything to do with the conversation at hand and even if it did it would only explain Hoenn and not Sinnoh.
But just to humor you, Groudon has been dormant for thousands if not millions of years in the middle of the sea the effect of his power on the landscape has long since been repaired. Also it's power has a very limited range of effect outside when it's not in it's primal form seeing as it didn't cover the region.
You really need to really need to think about what you're talking about before you post anon.
Oh and you're the same anon that was saying this shit in that other thread yesterday weren't you? Haven't you been BTFO'd enough?
>>25760752
If someone can translate this in English I'd be willing to read it
>>25760768
It would help if you had more than a grade school level of education.
But hey, I'll just accept this as you having no argument.
Also don't talk about someone's spelling when you failed to spell "available" correctly.
>>25760768
Incredible counterargument there man, especially hilarious when your last post has incredible amounts of grammar mistakes.
>>25759589
That has never been a problem though. Sure some games are a bit rushed, but pokémon games have never been release titles for new handhelds. Just look how long they took to move to the 3DS.
>>25761007
>R/S rushed
>D/P rushed
>X/Y rushed
>>25760968
>>25760875
>it's not a counter argument
Never claimed it was. I just can't wade through walls of non-sensible texts and make sense out of it. I'd leave too much up to my own bias due to ambiguity in writing. Which is a wasted chapter I wish to avoid.
>>25761307
XY was clearly rushed. I'd say the same with Emerald as the variety in pokemon and trainers asking for your number really ebbs out during the later part of the game
>>25759844
>Gen II = GBC
OP did say very similar, practically nothing was different
>Gen V = DSi
made me reply/10
>>25761317
>ambiguous writing
What the fuck in his post can be taken a different way? Do you even know what ambiguous means or do you just want to sound like a pseudo-intellectual?
>>25761332
>I'd say the same with Emerald as the variety in pokemon and trainers asking for your number really ebbs out during the later part of the game
That's because the actual trainer count ebbs out in the later part of the game.
That said the replayable trainers didn't change from the first game.
>>25761317
>I just can't wade through walls of non-sensible texts and make sense out of it
>Non-sensible
You what?
You mean you can't comprehend simple text like that?
What backwater part of the world did you come from?
>>25759844
>DS and DSi are different
>>25761407
>>25761389
If you're not willing to translate it don't bother posting. You're not contributing to the thread.
>>25759589
Gen 2 was worse than gen 1 though.
>>25761391
>That said the replayable trainers didn't change from the first game.
What does that mean? Emerald is the first game.
>>25761489
Ruby and Sapphire anon.
The trainers you can rebattle didn't change outside of the leaders.
>>25761499
Can you rebattle trainers in RS? Thought the phone system was new.
>>25761471
>I have no argument so I'll just say his English sucks!
>called out on being illiterate
>y-you're not contributing!
Right I think we're done here, here's your last (you) from me.
>>25761503
You didn't need the phone to rebattle.
Any trainer with a pokeball symbol next to them on the trainers eye part of the Pokenav you could rebattle.
>>25761471
Says the person who ended the argument with an ad hominem rather than actually reading the post.
>>25761525
Nice strawman. Maybe reread what I've actually said instead of just talking to yourself.
>>25761554
>but you did it t-t-too
Not an argument
>>25761526
Oh huh, it's starting to comeback to me now.
>>25761567
If you can read English you can understand what he's saying, your either illiterate or deflecting because you have no argument.
So, we're waiting to hear your counterargument, you enlightened guru.
>>25761567
>>but you did it t-t-too
What exactly do you mean "too"?
No one brought up your mistakes until you decided to attack that anon's spelling and you still haven't provided a counter argument to that post.
>Leave thread right after posting OP
>See decent amount of replies
>Enter thread
>>25759844
Gen VII = N3DS
:^)
>>25761843
Isn't it just the best?
>>25762141
Says the person that started this off topic conversation in the first place.
Also we're looking for your counterargument, it seems you can understand basic english so you shouldn't have an issue reading that post.
Just face it, you have no argument and you only keep on posting just to have the last word in which is why you waited about 40 minutes to post.
>>25761843
Welcome to 4chan
>>25762141
Actually we are contributing, we're calling you at on your bullshit while having some deserved keks at how dense and retarded you are, all because you won't just admit that you're wrong.
This is 4chan, not debate class, go fuck yourself.
>>25762194
>but you did it too
read >>>25761567
>>25762194
>but we are contributing
You're off-topic shitposting.
>>25762333
>>but you did it too
>read >>>25761567
Read >>25761612
Specifically
>No one brought up your mistakes until you decided to attack that anon's spelling
Still waiting on that counter argument Mister Shitposter.
>>25762308
Do you want to do the job of capping this to post wherever this anon shows up?
I'd do it myself but it's about time I go to sleep for the night.
>>25762376
Read >>>25760768
>>25762447
read >>25760875
Specifically
>It would help if you had more than a grade school level of education.
If you can't read that then there's no helping you.
>>25762333
>You're off topic shitposting
And you're deflecting the conversation, if anyone here is shitposting it is you starting with >>25760768
We are literally just responding to everything you say, which is just massive damage control. If you think we're at fault for you being retarded then this is obviously your first day on 4chan expecting us not to point and laugh at you being a retard.
Ooh~ Retard fight!
>>25762498
>fight
It's a bit one sided to be a fight.
It's more like gang rape.
>>25762475
Read >>>25762447
>>25762477
>you're deflecting
Irony
>>25761416
They are.DSi has region lockout.
>>25762631
Keep up the damage control, also
>3 meme arrows to quote a post
Getaloadofthisfaggot.jpg
>>25762672
>DSi has region lockout.
No it doesn't.
I played Jump Ultimate Stars on it just fine.
>>25762631
Come on dude, this is pathetic.
My internet went out for a while and when I come back you're still here shitposting instead of trying to defend your point.
>>25762791
DSi has region lockout for any games that use DSi functionality. This includes Black/White; they'll run fine on any original DS, but a DSi/3DS of a different region will refuse to run them.
Jump Ultimate Stars predates the DSi and doesn't have DSi functionality, so it can run on any system.
thanks for killing whatever little hype I had for this game
thank god for CFW
>>25760752
but route 113 is kinda fertile anyway
lots of grass and then Lavaridge is the only place in Hoenn with crops growing for farming
