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I'm a cat person, but I agree we need a wolf. What do you guys want to see from of a wolf pokémon? Dark type? We already have four Dark types that are varying degrees of dog. Ice type? Would that doom it to a life of mediocrity?
Manectric
We already have mewtwo, why would you need another wolf?
>>25732068
ebin
We already have Wailord
>>25732055
I dunno, a lot of people like Weavile for whatever reason, and I sort of imagine it being a more powerful version of it, except without the speed.
>what is Raticate
I want an Ice type jackalope/snowshoe hare pokemon before a wolf
We already have Voltorb
We just got Klefki anon
We already have Ditto
>>25732055
We already have a shit ton of dog mons.
Arcanine, Suicune, Entei, Ninetales, Houndoom, Hondour, Poochyena, Manectric, Electrike, Smeargle, Fennekin, Vulpix, Absol, All eeveevolutions, Growlithe, Mightyena, Stoutland, Zorua, Forfruou and I am sure I missed some.
>>25732283
>Forgetting pidgey
>>25732283
It's different. You wouldn't count Luxray and Pyroar in the same category as meowth skitty and other my mom's cat trash. A wolf is not a dog.
>>25732283
>all eeveelutions
So what canine is Espeon?
>>25732325
No, it is. Check the classification.
>>25732333
It's not. If wolves were dogs we would call them dogs
>>25732283
>Mightyena
Hyena's aren't even canines, let alone dogs. Absol and the Eeveelutions are pretty debatable too.
>>25732347
Genetically Canis Lupus familiaris and Canis Lupus are the same animal and are in the same clade.
I.e. Dogs are wolves, but wolves are not dogs.
>>25732347
There are species of Canis that are called dogs even though they are not Canis lupis or anything related to it.
>>25732068
Mewtwo is a dragon, though.
>>25732353
Not even the eevveelutions look like cats
>>25732353
>>25732353
The Poochyena line is a cross between dogs and hyenas. We've been over this.
>>25732283
Suicune is panther.
Entei is lion.
Eevee mons are cats, foxes at most.
Most of what you said are foxes and hardly even close to dogs.
Are you all idiots? Entei and the rest are cats no matter how much you cry about it .
>>25732520
They were always called dogs t.bh
>>25732090
>We already have Wailord
Wailord is an electric rodent, not a wolf.
>>25732592
I get they are called dogs (for whatever stupid reason) but you cant classify them as dogs based on looks, cos, you know, they essentially ARE cats.
So when someone says you cant have another wolf cos you have Entei Raikou and Suicune they sound autistic desu.
>>25732520
>suicune is a panther
[citation needed]
>>25732777
Suicune is a rather nondescript carnivore, unless you want to explain what about it is one or the other.
>>25732055
We already got a wolf, stupid ass
An ice/normal wolf would be kinda cool to compliment Pyroar.
>>25732777
They are the legendary Beasts
Suicune is a wolf/coyote
Raiku is a sabretoothed tiger
Entei is a mix of lion and mastiff/saint bernard
>>25732805
>>25732807
True that it looks like a mix of both, but you dont have to be a biilogy major to notice how feline triats prevail. Ffs Im stupid and slowpoke about so much but this sure as hell aint on of those things.
Ente and raikou are clearly cats. Suicune follows the pattern, both logically and biologically.
>>25732828
Fight me senpai
>>25732055
Dark and ice would be swell
>>25732828
Suicine looks nothing like a wolf or coyote. I'd say panther/jaguar is about the closest real life approximation for it. Entei and Raikou are straight-up lion/tiger, I don't understand how anyone could mistake them for canine.
>>25733010
Exactly. It's like people cant take cats as legendary anything so it has to be dogs.
>>25732417
I'll give you that espeon is a pink, fork-tailed cat, but if you can even see any eevee as a fox, foxes are closer related to dogs than cats by a fucking lot.
>>25733010
Suicunes face looks nothing like a cat's, muzzle is too long, also Entei's dex entry says it barks
>>25733654
>Google leopard and compare their muzzles, and then go check Entei's dex descriptions again and see how one of them says it roars. And then check how every single relevant origin speaks of it as a lion. Nice try though.
>>25732283
Entei's a lion you fucking freak
>>25733654
Entei has retractable claws like a feline.
>>25732066
Is a lion.
I always thought suicune was supposed to be a cheetah
>>25732592
since when
>>25732283
Suicune,Entei,Smeargle and the Eeveelutions are NOT dogs. Fennekin,Vulpix and Ninetales are foxes they don't count. Absol isn't a dog either. There you go.
>>25733919
Are you retarded, or confusing it with Luxray? Manectric is very clearly a canine based off of some breed of wolf.
>>25734879
Not him, agree it's not a lion it's obviously a canine but I don't see anything that screams wolf.
>>25735172
Well, the mythological Raijū could take the form of a white and blue wolf, or one wreathed in lightning, so that might be what it's going for.
>>25732592
>They were always called dog
By kids that didn't know any better.
>>25734879
I agree that it is definitely a canine. Maybe they thought it was a lion because of the name being a combo of mane and electric.
Is Lucario a wolf or jackal?
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>>25735172
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raij%C5%AB
>Raijū (雷獣,"thunder animal" or "thunder beast") is a legendary creature from Japanese mythology. Its body is composed of lightning and may be in the shape of a cat, fox, weasel, or wolf. The form of a white and blue wolf (or even a wolf wrapped in lightning) is also common.
Cat = Raikou
Wolf = Manectric
>>25734879
Is Luxray a lion or lynx?
>>25735248
Jackal.
>>25734879
>>25735172
>>25735246
I've heard a lot of people say it's based on the maned wolf.
>>25734818
>Smeargle
>Not a dog
It'seems literally a beagle with a paintbrush tail. It'seems design is even based on Snoopy.
>>25735248
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis
>Archeologists identified the sacred animal of Anubis as an Egyptian canid, that at the time was called the golden jackal, but recent genetic testing has caused the Egyptian animals to be reclassified as the African golden wolf.
By proxy, this means Lucario is based on a wolf, not a jackal.
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>>25734818
Smeargle most certainly is a dog.
>>25734879
The mane, for one. It's even in its english name and its Japanese name references it. Not a true lion, like Arcanine is based on a lion and a canine, or a Foo dog/Shiisa.
>>25733654
>>25732807
>>25732283
Suicune is thought to be based on numerous creatures and mythological deities, mainly the Qilin or "Kirin", an Eastern legend that has traits of chinese dragons, unicorns, deer, big cats, and other beasts. The Qilin was said to be able to walk on water and is known to be a powerful and peaceful creature. The crest on Suicune's head roughly matches the description of the beast's antlers. The spots of Suicune are also significant, seeming to combine the spots of a leopard, taking homage from Fūjin, the Shinto god of The North Wind, who wears leopard skin. Leopards themselves are found in Asia and are featured in myths that show it is a widely respected sacred animal like the Qilin. The way it runs and roars in the anime may also relate to the leopard. Being a Pokémon that represents the wind and rain, Suicune may also be based on some of the world's numerous myths of wind deities. Suicune's mane is meant to resemble a northern aurora.
>>25735309
>The mane, for one. It's even in its english name and its Japanese name references it.
>>25732520
The legendary beasts are based on mythological creatures, not real animals.
Raikou = Raiju, cat form
Entei = Chinese guardian lions/Lions of Foo
Suicune = Qilin
The former two are cats, but the Qilin is a mix of a bunch of different animals.
Hence why they're called legendary beasts and not legendary cats; Entei and Raikou have clear feline traits, but Suicune does not.
>it's a /vp/ argues about biology episode
>>25735258
Seems to have some traits of both, maybe more lion though.
>>25735330
I'll argue they can't be called anything anymore, lest this argument arise.
Gorebyss and Kyogre are dolphins
>>25732055
Zoroark?
Here's a wolf
>>25735382
Kitsune
>>25735382
>Zoroark
>Zorro (Spanish for fox)
>>25734818
>beagles aren't dogs
>>25735326
I said not a true lion. There's more than one reference to Manectric.
>>25735330
>Entei = Chinese guardian lions/Lions of Foo
aka a Foo Dog
>>25735439
>implying owls are birds
>>25735277
Maned wolves are not wolves.
>inb4 maned WOLF
It's called a misnomer. Taxonomically, its in its own genus, separate from wolves or foxes (though it is still a canine.
>>25733307
Yes, they are closer to dogs than cats but foxes are still not dogs. Bears are also closer to dogs than they are to cats but you wouldn't call Ursaring a wolf, would you?
God, for a fandom of a series about monsters that are mostly based on real-word animals /vp/ sure is retarded as hell about anything to do with animals or how they're classified.
>>25735782
>what is reading comprehension
I didn't say it was a wolf, I just said I heard it was based on a maned wolf.
I want an ice dragon that actually looks cool
I want another ice creature that floats/flies
I want more ice glass cannons
I want a dedicated freeze status move (but for it to thaw at a faster rate than past generations, Fire types thaw immediately)
>>25736074
>Flash Freeze
>75% Accuracy
>15 PP
It's that easy, Game Freak pls
>>25735818
a fox is still in the family Canidae which is where all dog/wolves are
using a bear was a bad example and now you sound even more retarded by calling other people out.
>>25736142
>a fox is still in the family Canidae which is where all dog/wolves are
Yes, they are in the same family. But that does not make foxes wolves or dogs, foxes are still in a different genus.
>using a bear was a bad example and now you sound even more retarded by calling other people out.
Yes, bears are farther away from wolves than foxes are, but bears are still more closely related to wolves than they are to cats, which was the point.
>>25732055
>magnemite
>garbodor
>venomoth
>stunfisk
am i doing the maymay right?
>>25732055
But mightyena?
>>25736647
>Yena
>>25732055
A fast offensive focused ice type would be great
>>25735818
Yeah but Ursaring is pretty obviously a bear. Eevee isn't obviously a fox or dog, so people classify it as whatever fits the bill the closest. It looks very similar to a fox, which is closer to a canine.
>>25735484
>thinking Entei is not a lion
>being this retarded
>>25736868
And doing that with eevee and other dubious Pokemon is stupid. They're clearly hybrids or nonspecific, so calling them "foxes" or "cats" is dumb.
>>25732055
We need a ghost type dog based off of league of legend's kindred.
>>25735202
>>25735257
Cool thanks anons that's pretty obvious now. You'd really think a certain electric gen 2 legend with a similar (English) name could've taken this idea.
>>25737992
Wait scratch the last part, reading hurr durr
