Who's the best Water starter?
Feraligatr > Greninja > Blastoise > Swampert > Empoleon > Samurott
Greninja > Feraligatr > Swampert > Samurott > Blastoise > Empoleon
Wartortle
>>25722386
Swampert
samurott>feraligatr=greninja=blastoise>empoleon>>>>>swampert
>tfw ashninja has grown on me
The sideburns are still retarded though but I like the red on its head, the water shuriken mode and covered in water mode.
Feraligatr = Greninja > Blastoise > Swampert >>>> Empoleon > Samurott
The 'toise of blasts.
>>25723946
>>25722565
>empoleon is last
>worse than samurott
>>25723938
>samurott
>first
>>25722386
No matter who is best, Samurott is objectively worst
>>25723938
Horrible taste senpai.
Swampert=Empoleon>Blastoise=Feraligatr>Samurott
Usability?
It's objectively Greninja
In looks?
subjectively Empoleon, but all of them are great barring Samurott
>>25724483
>>25724495
my opinions>your opinions
>>25724454
>>25724483
>hates Samurott
>posts Braixen
Nice shit taste you've got here.
Blastoise>Feraligatr>Swampert>Greninja>Empoleon >Samurott
>>25724499
No. Usability it's objectively Swampert
Greninja is crap in VGC and Mega Swampert is at least useful on rain
Even Mega Blastoise is better in VGC then Greninja
>>25724859
>lying on the internet
The Gatr.
Feraligatr > Swampert > Empoleon > Samurott > Blastoise >>>>>>>>>>>> Greninja
Greninja > Feraligatr > Empoleon > Blastoise > Samurott > Swampert
>>25725072
how's that shit taste working out for you family
>>25724791
>implying I used the image because of personal taste and not just because I needed a reaction image
>liking samurott
>ever
I'm glad I'm not you
Feraligatr > Blastoise > Swampert > Empoleon >>> Greninja >>>>>>> Samurott
Emboleon> Blastoise> Feraligatr> Swampert> Greninja> Samurott
>>25725085
Swampert is shit and is objectively the least popular of the Hoenn starters. There's a reason it was the only one to not be featured in Pokken. It's incredibly ugly and I fail to see how anyone can like it. I can understand people liking Charizard, Lucario, Mewtwo, or Blaziken, but Swampert? There is NOTHING likable about that Pokémon aside from competitive faggotry.
>>25725154
False
>>25725164
How is it false? Swampert is the least popular Hoenn starter and its exclusion in Pokken proves that.
>>25725085
How is that chronic butthurt working out? Also known as Swampert-ass.
>>25722386
Greninja, blastoise and swampert.
Feraligator honerable mention
>>25725184
Fuck off, memefag.
Empoleon >> Blastoise > Samurott > Greninja > Swampert >> Feraligatr
>>25725199
Mudkip is legitimately my favorite pokemon.
>>25724986
Except I'm not. Sorry your fave is bad
>>25725154
Swampert is DLC because it's the best starter
>>25725218
You have horrible taste and there's no cure.
>>25725090
i bet you're one of those degenerate furfags that hates samurott's design simply because it quadruped, aren't you?
>>25722386
Empoleon.
>>25725220
>Swampert is DLC
>implying it's getting in over Greninja
Nice delusion.
>>25725229
I love the pairing but I don't understand tickle fetishes, if anything it's a turn off
The great 'Pert.
Though I also enjoy Empoleon a lot. Rooting for a Mega in S/M.
Water starters are always the safe choice. There is no bad looking water starter. I don't even understand why people hate Samurott, sure he's not in my top list but he's not bad.
>>25725174
>I don't like it so you can't like it! Here, have an unfounded claim!
When are you getting your autism diagnosed, anon?
>>25725244
I'm implying both get in....
>the one extremely butthurt swampertfag in this thread
>>25725271
Are you excited that you'll get to main Swampert in Pokken? Oh wait, YOU CAN'T, because he's not worthy enough in the eyes of Pokken's developers! LMAO
>>25725174
False
>>25725271
Oh, and if I had to rank them:
Swampert > Empoleon > Greninja > Samurott > Feraligatr > Blastoise
>>25725304
Stay delusional, Swampertfag.
>>25725290
swampert is an ugly piece of shit and nobody unironically likes it
>>25725302
Not that guy, and I don't even care about Swampert, but those are the same idiotic developers that let Pikachu in a luchadore outfit in instead of an actual luchadore Pokemon and an edgy OC Mewtwo. Not to mention that they put an emphasis on including Pokemon that were already popular instead of letting others get a chance to shine.
Why is Pokken even brought up? Who gives a shit and why does it matter here in any way?
>>25725302
>>25725290
>>25725244
>>25725199
>>25725177
>>25725174
>>25725154
Why do I get the feeling it's the same Sceptilefag shilling his dead game all the time?
>>25725336
pikachu libre was voted in by korea. their hands were tied. and hawlucha would be redundant in light of this.
>>25725339
because you're desperately trying to rationalize instead of just admitting that swampert is a shitty mon.
>>25725339
you wish faggit
>>25725373
>pikachu libre was voted in by korea.
as if I needed any further proof you're retarded
>>25725336
> Not to mention that they put an emphasis on including Pokémon that were already popular
Exactly. This is proof that Sceptile is more popular than Swampert.
>>25725380
nice edit
>thread about water starters
>one fucktard keep spamming his shitty spin off game that is not even pokemon
>sceptile and blaziken somehow are brought up
>>25725256
it's like all fetishes are weird or something.
>>25725380
nice try
>>25725426
just don't reply, he's freaking obsessed
>>25725440
touche
>>25725339
>dead game
>outsold SFV
>>25725665
*Touché
>>25722386
when did people start liking greninja?
What exactly IS Ash greninja?
>>25725121
THIS.
>>25725784
What X and Y released. I don't know why people WOULDN'T like Greninja
>>25725785
I got the feeling he's supposed to be a Mega Greninja that got retconned into a shitty anime only form due to GF cancelling Z.
>>25725877
Because it's popular
>>25725877
sounds like you weren't there for the Frogocaust
>muh bubble theme
>>25722386
Swampert>Feraligatr>Greninja=Empoleon>Blastoise>>Samurott
>>25722400
dubs confirm
Shitting on Samurott must be a meme. I mean he's a kickass samurai, with a minimalistic aesthetic and color palette.
And I actually don't mind how he went from bipedal to quad; considering how so many starters disappointingly went from quad to bipedal in the final starters, I think this is a refreshing deviation.
Samurott>Greninja>Feraligatr>Empoleon>Swampert>Blastoise
>>25726860
>>25726993
Feraligatr > Swampert > Blastoise > Empoleon > Greninja > Samurott
>>25727010
Shit taste is what I'd expect from a JonTron fag.
>>25726860
Samurott saved its line as far as I'm concerned. Only autistic furries hate on it.
>>25725272
>>25726860
>>25726993
>>25727036
ALL OF THIS (minus the horrible taste in hating Jontron)
Samurott isn't that bad. He's actually in my top 3 water starters next to Greninja and Blastoise
Blastoise is the best looking by a wide margin.
>>25725272
Yes, me too I never understood the hate for Samurott. I find it's kinda cleaver how they translate the fact that sea lion have a goofy way to walk on land but are gracious under the sea by making him a quadrupedal swordsman, it's hard for it to use it's blades on land because they are made to be used underwater where it doesn't need to use its front legs as a support
Swampert>Greninja>Samurott>Feraligatr>Blastoise>Empoleon
>>25722386
Empoleon is best
Samurott is shit
Feraligatr>Greninja>Blastoise>Samurott>>>>>Empoleon>>>>>>>>>>>Swampert
Feraligatr>Empoleon>Samurott=Blastoise>>>Greninja>>>Swampert
they're all cool though
Greninja > Feraligatr > Swampert > Blastoise > Empoleon > Samurott
Objetive truth
>>25722400
... This is pretty good.
>>25725154
>I can understand people liking Blaziken
I legit can't see the appeal of that ugly piece of shit
Empoleon > Blastoise > Feraligatr > Samurott > Greninja > Swampert
>>25727963
>this shitty taste
>>25727969
I ain't here to impress
>>25722400
I'd switch Empoleon and Swampert, but otherwise a pretty good list 5/5.
>>25723946
Same, I like the red streak on it, but would prefer it not having the sideburns.
Empoleon>Blastoise>Greninja>Swampert>Feraligatr>Samurott
>>25722386
>Feraligatr > Greninja = Swampert(mega) = Samurott >>>> Blastoise > Empoleon
that's my opinion on how badass they look
>>25725056
>Feraligatr
>Using surf
jokes aside he's probably my favorite too
Swampert>samurott>greninja>blastoise>feraligater>empolion
Also, swampert has the highest bst of all starter Pokemon.
>>25728518
>Also, swampert has the highest bst of all starter Pokemon.
You act like that's supposed to mean something. Delphox has the highest BST of the Kalos starters. Does that mean it's the best? FUCK NO.
>>25728393
Surf on Feraligatr isn't a bad option in HGSS, by the time you get Waterfall you're almost at the Move Deleter anyway so you can replace it. It's not like it learns any other Water moves leveling up until obscenely late
>>25728393
>he
Feraligatr > Empoleon > Blastoise > Swampert > Greninja > Samurott
>>25722386
I'm soo glad that hideous creature is anime only.
>>25728568
>female feraligatr
Trash
Feraligatr > Swampert > Blastoise > Greninja > Empoleon > Samurott
Frogadier > Dewott = Croconaw = Wartortle > Prinplup > Marshtomp
Totodile > Mudkip > Piplup = Squirtle > Froakie > Oshawott
Something like this for me.
>>25728665
sexist pig
I don't know why everyone loves Feraligatr. I never used him back when I played Crystal or SS.
Samurott > Greninja > Blastoise > Swampert > Empoleon > Feraligatr
Feraligatr>Blastoise>Samurott>Empoleon>Swampert>GreninjaI have an irrational disgust toward saliva, so I find Greninja's tongue scarf to be very off-putting
>>25728712
Story time!
Back in GSC days I was a Typhlosion fanboy riding the bandwagon and I hated water types so I very rarely caught one. Without internet I had no way of knowing what else could learn surf so when I had to go to Cianwood I would trade a Voltorb for the fisherman's Krabby but on one of my playthroughs I couldn't find him anywhere and I got pissed. I started a new game and thought I was being smart by choosing Totodile so I wouldn't get stuck again and thus Feraligatr became my favorite pokemon. I quickly grew to love Totodile and even Croconaw but Feraligatr was the coolest thing I'd ever seen.
Also nice taste except for having Feraligatr last. It's nice to see someone else on this board who likes Samurott
Swampert=Blastoise=Feraligatr>Greninja>Empoleon>Samurott
Water/Steel Type Emperor Penguin.
Truly the best.
I love them all really, I just stopped watching the Ashnime when I realized they were getting shafted hard.
>Charizard can beat Blastoise because plot armor and fuck logic
>Tododile is more comic relief than anything.
>Brock's Mudkip only goes up to Marshtomp and does fuckall
>Dawn's Piplup never evolves when Ash gets both Infernape and Torterra
>Oshawott stays a shitty comic relief character
>Greninja the first water starter to get decent representation
>>25729474
Don't forget Swampert was the only Hoenn starter to not be playable in Pokken.
>>25729467
muh nigga
>>25726860
>quadrupedal
>skilled sword figther
pick one
i really liked samurott but his concept its just retarded, they should have keep him bipedal
>>25725785
Simple shonen bullshit power up trope?
SQUIRTLE is objectively the best water starter
Blastoise>Feraligatr>Samurott>Swampert>Empoleon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Greninja
Blastoise > Samurott > Empoleon > Greninja = Feraligatr > Swampert
All are really good. Water starters are easily the safest out of the trio.
>>25730428
Anon,I think that you don't know the difference between the words "objectively" and "subjectively".
Greninja>Feraligatr>Swampert>Samurott>Blastoise>Empoleon
>>25729467
I like the design but fuck, being weak to ground and fighting is annoying.
Swampert > Feraligatr > Samurott > Blastoise > Empoleon > Greninja
But I like them all.
Feraligatr > Swampert > Blastoise > Empoleon > Greninja > Samurott
Any water starter > Swampert
I took a tally of every post in this thread that ranks all six (ignored ones that just post individual favorites without ranking all of them), added them together and took the average, and the results were:
Blastoise: 3.33
Feraligatr: 2.48
Swampert: 3.20
Empoleon: 3.70
Samurott: 4.00
Greninja: 3.51
So /vp/'s overall rating of the starters in this thread is
Feraligatr > Swampert > Blastoise > Greninja> Empoleon > Samurott
>>25730841
>ignored ones that just post individual favorites without ranking all of them
Are you actually retarded?
>>25729604
Are you seriously implying that Samurott is incapable of moving on it's hind legs? It's been confirmed to be able to standing for a fucking while now. It even carries 2 blades to dual weld with. Quadrupeds are INCOMPATIBLE with dual-welding.
>>25730841
Pretty decent list. Samurott will probably always be the most hated water starter of all time
>>25730884
Are you? The fuck did you not understand in his post
>>25724454
>Empoleon better than Samurott
>Dies to Ground types.
>>25727053
This. I really don't mind that it looks very different from Oshawatt and Dewott since they were shit designs to begin with.
>>25731047
Probaby because the fanbase has shit taste in designs. Im not even surprised.
Feraligatr>Swampert>Greninja>Empoleon>Blastoise>Samurott
Oshawott > Totodile > Mudkip > Squirtle > Froakie > Piplup
This applies to the full lines, though Oshawott and Totodile's are the only ones I particularly like. The rest are a vague order of indifference.
Greninja
Feraligatr
Empoleon
Swampert
Samurott
Blastoise
>>25731943
An samurai based theme and a quadruped pokemon. Doesn't fit well
Greninja>Swampert>Feraligatr=Empoleon>Samurott=>Blastoise
Greninja = Empoleon > Feraligatr > Blastoise > Swampert >>>Samurott
Frogadier > Dewott > Wartortle >> prinplup > croconaw > marshtomp
Piplup > froakie > totodile = squirtle > mudkip > oshawott
Empoleon > Swampert > Greninja > Feraligatr > Samurott > Blastoise
>>25723946
>not liking sideburns
what are you 9 years old?
>>25722386
>using your starters as anything more than an HM slave
>>25734635
thats fucking stupid to do
>>25722386
>Water starters
Only cuckholds choose that shit
Real Pokemon masters select Grass starters.
>>25734684
only baybees choose grass types
>>25734684
Now imagine if venusaur didnt have ugly warts
>>25734684
how dirty is your diaper right now?
Blastoise = Feraligatr = Swampert = Empoleon = Samurott = Greninja
I love all water starters, they really are the best. Blastoise is my favorite Pokemon of all, but I've had a great time using water starters in every game.
>>25734712
He doesn't have warts, he has little spikes and spots on him.
>>25722386
swampert = feraligatr > blastoise > samurott > greninja = empoleon
>>25728518
>Also, swampert has the highest bst of all starter Pokemon.
so?
>>25734635
you just went full retard son
>>25730924
> implying that Samurott is incapable of moving on it's hind legs
>Quadrupeds are INCOMPATIBLE with dual-welding.
yeah i know, that was my point
>>25735609
Well it isn't a full-fledged quadruped given it's function with the sword motif. Its just as bipedal as a bear is(majority of the time its walking on fours, but also move on it's hind legs sometimes).
>>25734635
>Not starting your adventure with him as your best bro.
>Not watching him evolve twice
>Not growing together
>Not catching more Pokemon and making friends together.
>Not watching each other form a glorious team of six that works in perfect sync together
>Not earning all gym badges together
>Not becoming champions togther
Boxing your starter goes against the spirit of Pokemon.
As much shit people talk on Samurott, he saved my ass during the Ghetsis fight at the end of Black. He was the last Pokemon I had but got a crit aqua jet against Electross and won me the match against all the odds.
>>25735766
Zangoose is also a good example. He prefers to walk on all fours, but can stand on two legs for battle. Samurott is the same way. He walks on all fours normally, but can stand on two legs to use his swords.
>>25734760
I like you. You're a ray of positivity which is sorely needed in such a divisive thread.
>>25734684
I mean, i love me some Venusaur too, but you're wrong about Water starters
>>25724859
VGC is a shitty format. Double battles are shallow.
>People hate Emboar for becoming a biped
>People hate Samurott for becoming a quadreped
>Snivy is a biped that becomes a limbless snake
What was up with gen 5 and the starters changing physiology?
>>25734760
>look everyone, i'm a boring neutral faggot too scared of having an opinion or being disagreed with
>>25736015
>encouraging him
Feraligatr is like the Guilmon of pokemon for me. He's not only my favorite starter but also my favorite pokemon too.
Coincidentally his first and second stages are my favorites out of the starters too.
Empoleon > Feraligatr > Swampert > Blastoise > Greninja > Samurott
Blastoise > Empoleon > Swampert >Samurott > Feraligatr > Greninja
Doesn't matter, all of them are superior to all the Grass and Fire starters.
>>25736237
They wanted the Unova starters to be "unique".
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Pia_information_begins_to_surface
