The objectively correct order
>>25718257
Gen 6 is better than 3, otherwise your list is perfect/
>going by generation and not single games
>>25718265
shit taste
Move Platinum up 1.
Move B1/W1 down 1.
Move D/P down 2.
Move Emerald up 1.
Move R/S down 1.
Move Crystal up one.
Platinum + B2/W2 best games.
The more I play HG/SS, the more problems become apparent, but for now they can stay up.
>>25718265
>Sky Battles
>EXP Share
>SEVENTY
>What is post game?
No
>>25718257
op you're a retard
>>25718257
Crystal is way better then fire red, fite me
What's a KINO?
>>25718341
Meme term for god-tier. Credit goes to /tv/ if I recall
>>25718341
A cinema in the czech language.
>>25718257
Switch Hoenn and Sinnoh's spots
Move Crystal up to decent
>>25718300
>Sky Battles
Entirely optional iirc.
>EXP Share
Actually one of the best parts of the game. Cuts down on grinding by a ton. The games aren't easy because of EXP Share, they're easy because of the horrible teams the AI has. Also, Gen 3 isn't any harder. The only halfway challenging Pokemon games are the gen 4 and 5 ones.
>SEVENTY
Quality over quantity. Most of the new pokemon are amazing designs (Malamar, Tyrantrum, Aegislash..) as opposed to gen 3 which had mostly forgettable mons along with some utter dogshit with a few gems mixed in.
>What is post game?
None of the gen 3 games except for Emerald have any post game either, and Emerald's was pretty dogshit. The Battle Frontier is boring and grindy. The only reason people liked it was because it was new and novel at the time, but its dogshit by modern standards.
>>25718257
>This is what emulatorfags actually believe
Oh sorry guys, let me post the correct tiers unlike OP who fucking lumped DP in with Platinum.
>>25718408
End urself my man
>>25718408
>GS better than HGSS
Fuck you
>>25718423
So you either
>like ORAS
>like slow-as-a-constipated-swine's-diarrhea Gen IV
>dislike RBY because it's not 3D :(
In other words, your opinion is irrelevant and discarded. Thanks for playing.
>>25718431
You realize nobody else shares your shit opinion?
>>25718428
>a worse, slower version of GSC
>"b-b-b-but muh following Pogeys! xD
lol no
>>25718433
>"worse"
>does everything GSC already did and more
>"slower"
Nigger stop holding down the space bar on your Emulator
>>25718432
I'd wager that over half the posters here (tumblr crossposters and/or underage) would disagree, but the rest would probably feel similarly if not about the same.
And even if no one else "shared my opinion" why the fuck would I care? You need the acceptance of the group like some fucking redditor?
>>25718431
I don't like ORAS but they're better than R/S. Not Emerald though, Emerald is genuinely great.
I don't like D/P, they're steaming garbage but Platinum is arguably the best game in the series. HG/SS are okay, most certainly better than G/S/C as the remakes at least attempt to fix the hilariously bad level curve in Kanto.
I started with Red version, yet I'm not enough of a fucking retard to pretend they've aged well in any way whatsoever.
Slay urself my man.
>>25718439
>does everything GSC already did and that's it, but slower
ftfy
You can't even play HGSS without turning the fucking battle animations off, unless you like spending 120 seconds trying to exit a wild encounter.
>>25718373
Your counter argument is literally
>ITS JUST AS SHITTY MAN
>>25718444
>pretend they've aged well
What makes a Pokemon game good, RBY has. Just because its grafix are 8-bit doesn't mean it "didn't age well" the fuck? Boiled down, all Pokemon games are exactly the same. It's the little things added over the years that will make them better or worse.
Not only that, but you think DP are dogshit, but Platinum is best in the series? Who fucking thinks this (besides retards)? Platinum did nothing to DP other than increase surf speed and alter the map / story progression a little bit (and nerf the E4).
So you think it's so much better because?
>>25718458
RBY IS A SLOW, BROKEN, CONTRIVED MESS THAT DID NOTHING BUT MAKE A PLATFORM FOR BETTER GAMES IT IS LITERALLY A SHIT GAME NOW COMPARED TO ITS SUCCESORS THE ONLY REASON YOU WOULD THINK ITS SO GOOD IS BECAUSE /comfy/ NOW FUCK OFF ALSO MY FIRST GAME WAS RED MONGOLOID
>>25718466
>RBY IS A SLOW, BROKEN
stopped reading right there
Anyone who says RBY is "broken" are fucking parrots and nothing more. No glitch has ever stopped anyone from enjoying the game. They're rare occurrences that require special conditions in order to pull off.
You were saying?
>>25718408
>Any gen 1 or 2 games
>"Based" by today's standards
>BW
>Not boring and slow as all fuck, almost on par with XY
>>25718408
>Pokemon Ashnime edition
>anything but shit
Please commit suicide asap, thanks.
>>25718484
>Ashnime
Who the fuck even thinks about the fucking anime long enough to put forward the effort to type that dumbass term?
>>25718484
Who the fuck doesn't like Yellow? It's barely different from RB except you have access to all the starters in one game.
>>25718481
>today's standards
So low that everyone's worried about "how much worse can it get?" as opposed to "well I wonder what new cool features will be added" ?
>>25718341
Hello newfriend
>>25718458
>Forgetting platinum adds a shit ton of pokemon to sinnoh
>Forgetting platinum also speeds up the battles
Please stop typing.
>>25718507
>platinum also speeds up the battles
except it doesn't
What?
Why the hell is it that nobody can actually agree on a meaning to the word "kino"? i thought it meant "so bad that it's good", but that wouldn't be that high
>>25718503
>>25718505
>unironically liking the Ashnime meme version
Shouldn't you be in Reddit right now?
>>25718458
Platinum is not as slow, they increased the battle speed as well as the surf speed.
Trainer battles can actually pose a threat, the level curve is fucking amazing in Platinum. The best in the series and it doesn't even need the Lucky Egg.
Movesets are 10/10 and the AI is good enough to use it well.
Fantastic pokemon variety, D/P dropped the ball on that so hard by not letting you see a large chunk of the new pokemon.
Battle Frontier is actually present and is amazing.
Important battles are all difficult.
It has a few niggling faults, the game corner for one, but it's one of the best to this day.
>>25718480
Wrap/Multi-turn moves in general.
Garbage movesets and limited tms.
Focus energy doing the reverse of what it should.
Perma Freeze.
The Special stat being the best shit ever.
Perma sleep if the enemy is a tiny bit lucky + faster than you.
Those are all problems you'll almost certainly encounter during a run, no setup or special conditions required.
>>25718480
>Psychic is broken, Ghost isn't even super-effective against it like it's supposed to be
>Moves don't do what they say they do, like Focus Energy
It boggles my mind that anyone thinks Gen 1 is objectively better than any other gen, they literally all added on content to the base game and nothing more...
I can understand if they took shit out of the previous games (I.E BF from OR/AS, no B/W2 tier postgame in X/Y etc.) but gen 1 was barebones compared to literally any other game in the series and if you think otherwise take your nostalgia goggles off.
I guess the mindset is more content = worse game,
>>25718505
So archaic and missing so much basic shit we take for granted it's more a chore to play now than anything. No reason to play them after the first time.
>>25718526
>unironically using the term "ashnime"
>thinking anyone who calls you out on your dumb shit must like it
Reddit sounds more like your speed.
>>25718556
>missing so much basic shit
Only thing that bothered me was you can't press select to take the bike out. That's literally it.
>>25718515
Nice counter argument, got any proof?
>>25718555
75% of the added content is cancerous nonsense.
>>25718568
Burden of proof is on you, you suggested it.
>>25718570
>75% of the content is cancerous nonsense
Examples? Because literally everything added in gen 2 is a step up from gen 1 imho
>>25718555
it boggles my mind that anyone thinks the quantity of content is more important than the quality of that content
>>25718572
I agree for the most part. But new shit isn't what makes a Pokemon game good. There may be new shit in Gen II for example, but the in-game is more of a chore than Gen I. You piss through Johto in 5 hours, then you get to Kanto and it's wow it's fucking nothing.png. Maybe if you could catch some Pokemon OTHER than fucking Kanto mon in Johto, I'd like it as much or more.
>>25718585
this
RBGY- Dark, mysterious, filled with ghosts and the supernatural, the world felt huge and filled with scary people who had dark intentions. Satoshi Tajiri deeply involved in its creation.
GSC- Dark, mysterious, comfy as hell, added night, still supernatural, 16 badges, still filled with scary people who had dark intentions. Satoshi Tajiri deeply involved in its creation.
RSE- Satoshi Tajiri not involved outside of basic director credit. Color pallet geared towards children. No mystery. No night. Everything went down hill from here.
>>25718563
>That's literally it.
>hold items
>breeding
>type matchups
I will admit some are cool and I miss like bug and poison being SE to each other, I kind of want another relationship like that.
>fucked to hell level up learnsets
>generally shitty move selection compared to now
All pretty basic shit. Hell, by comparison it has the hands down worst postgame simply because RBY were them getting their feet wet with pokemon.
what does kino mean
>>25718257
pokemon battles are looking annoying and slower through time glasses because newer versions have more dynamic and animations, which are more enjoyable than older system, everyone were playing older games [on console] and grinding normally for years...until now
>>25718588
Gen 1 is easier than gen 2, the AI is complete shit and you can beat the game with a team of high 40s, if we are going by quality > quantity argument then gen 2 still wins. It offers better game mechanics, bug fixes, WAY less brain dead AI and QoL changes such as efficient HM uses, improved bag, improved PC etc.
I appreciate actually giving an example though.
>>25718617
>Gen 1 is easier than gen 2
While all Pokemon games are so fucking easy that it's hard to tell the difference between them, Gen I is harder. I raped my first Johto E4 with a Feraligatr who knew Ice Punch, Surf, Bite, and Rock Smash. That being said, my first Kanto E4 I solo'd with a Fearow, so.
>>25718598
I will tell you if you notice me senpai :3
>>25718590
noticed that too, all newer gens are just so fucking... they firstly made game, then they scaled it for autistic kids... while we were learning to play games right through our mistakes ect. I never had problem with 1st or sec gen although I didn't knew english except move pool and stuff
>>25718624
While its true that gen 2 is easy as shit I still think gen 1 is easier thanks to the crippling AI, but I can see how gen 2 would be easier to solo since the level curve was pretty garbage. I mean in yellow you can take out brock with just pikachu and tackle even though he has ground types, thats pretty fucked up. The Elite 4 also have some stupid movesets like barrier dragonite and blue's exeggutor, not to mention the nonsensical items they use like super potion.
But yeah both gens are pretty piss
Perfect list
>>25718663
all that and still ORAS is easier
>>25718679
As I said I understand hating OR/AS since they took out the challenge, I still think the EXP Share is fine but giving it at the beginning is retarded, or if you do scale the damn game properly.
If anything I chalk OR/AS up to improper scaling like gen 2, but way worse
>>25718663
no but gen 2 games can be easily ended with only typhlosion, i mean the game is broken, there are no water type rock type or ground type gyms on johto, the only threat is chucks poliwrath and by the time you get to kanto your typhlosion already knows thunder punch and/or is too strong to send every thing to go fuck himself with a flamethrower or an earthquake
>>25718738
There was also whitney's miltank rolling out and clair but yeah that is pretty hilarious how that happened, I havent done a solo since I was a kid so I didnt know how easy it is to solo the game compared to gen 1, but gen 1 is also piss easy to solo. Using 6 pokemon is what I base my challenge off of and gen 1 was slightly easier to beat than 2 was but both were super easy.
I say we just agree both gens were shit easy for different reasons...
>>25718257
Gen 5 is shit
Based solely on my enjoyment from the time I played them. I excluded G/S/C and R/S because I was too young to properly judge them.
I played BW solely for the story after playing BW2 and feel they both compliment each other nicely, so I count them as one whole experience.
XY, while doing a lot wrong, also had a lot of new interesting things and it was my first time playing a pokemon game on release so I had a ton of fun.
Platinum speaks for itself.
FR/LG/E were decent from the time I played them, nothing super special.
HG/SS is extremely boring. I can't even get past the 3 badges without going full ADHD. Funny how you'd expect it to have that nostalgia factor since Gold was my very first game I owned, but it just doesn't do it for me.
ORAS pretty much copy and pasted a lot from X/Y which made it so boring for me.
>>25718408
>Gen 1 isn't shit-tier
nice try anon
>>25718257
What the fuck is Kino? Here it means cinema
The fuck
Why Heartgold and Soulsilver are shitty game ?!
>>25718257
Swap DP with ORAS.
>>25718590
>No mystery.
The Regis alone provided more than gen 1 and 2.
Satoshi Tajiri was a hack.
>>25718299
listen to this guy hes got it right
You guys are all wrong.
>>25718705
>If anything I chalk OR/AS up to improper scaling like gen 2,
GF actually made the attempt to try and fix the scaling in that game by lowering earlier levels and raising later ones. Without the exp share you get a fairly balanced progression through the game.
>>25719083
>didn't fix shit from GSC
>copy and pasted the worst BF
>added intrusive gimmicks
And so on.
Friendly reminder that putting Gen 1 in anything else than shit is wrong.
>>25719128
>DP and GSC not in shit
>ORAS not in based
>HGSS not in decent
>>25718300
>More Alive World
>Customization
>Super training
>PSS
>Better breeding Mechanics
>Horde Battles
I could go on
>>25719156
>ORAS
>Based
>>25718300
>At least they did have them
>A better one
>What does that have to do with the quality?
>A better postgame than a single area being the Battle Tower.
>>25718257
>Having RSE over ORAS
You're not retarded, are you?
>>25719160
>more alive world
How?
>>25719188
Why are you here?
>>25719166
>implying it makes sense to have their worse original versions there but not the superior remakes
>>25719197
How?
ORAS literally made it so you can see Pokemon out in the world and that they don't just appear in the grass., being able to ride Pokemon
ORAS did it more so than X and Y but still
>>25719217
>ORAS literally made it so you can see Pokemon out in the world and that they don't just appear in the grass.
To be fair that was a black and white feature ORAS just expanded on it.
a game cant be a kino since they are not on the same category
name it art or something like those /v/ plebs, dont let /v/ feel superior for their forced memes
>>25719201
Welcome to /vp/ you retarded newfag
>1. 5
>2. 2
>3. 1
>4. 3
>5. 4
>6. 6
Original games, not sequels
X and Y is worse than decent. Otherwise, I agree.
5>3>1>2>6>4
suck my dick
>>25718257
The real one
Amerifats and contrarian hipsters need no apply
>>25719831
>Gen 2 is the best gen because 2 regions meme
>>25718257
>XBox gamepad
Emulating's cool bro.
>>25719875
johtoddlers have the tightest grip on those nostalgia goggles.
>>25718257
Swap the shit tier and Decent tier around and then you got a good list. But move Crystal up to Based as well.
>>25718257
I honestly found X/Y hard to play twice, but other than that, this is the best list I've seen so far.
>>25718299
I can live with this
>>25718657
>although I didn't knew english
You still don't.
>>25719154
This guys fucking gets it
>but muh nostalgia
>but it started the series
Neither are objective pros to the actual games.
The Wright Brother's first plane was total shit, no-one in their right mind would say its better than any plane that came after it.
Not only are R/B bad pokemon games, they're just not good games at all.
>>25718590
>Dark, mysterious-
Lack of any world building and character development doesn't equal genuine mystery, anon.
>>25719111
This guy gets it. Seeing each of those mounds throughout your Hoenn journey was great, and when you finally find that underground ruin after braving those god-damned rapids, deciphering the codes, then being told that huge shudders were felt across the land to indicate that these once closed-off ancient temples and its treasures are now open to you was just THE best. And even then you had to solve riddles in each ruin to unlock the pokemon within.
>>25718354
And in the German language.
>>25720245
we get it, you like jojo, doesn't mean you have to post it everywhere you go
>>25718458
>Just because its grafix are 8-bit doesn't mean it "didn't age well" the fuck?
You honestly cannot tell me you do not see the poor aging in RBY. The game's environments are boring compared to today's Pokemon games, it's glitchy, and there are no natures or held items.
Take the Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker. This is a prime example of a game that's aged finely. The graphics hold up, it's fun to explore, and there's always something new to find. But RBY? Nuh uh. Nope. It's just a broken glitchy mess that's only defended by people blinded by nostalgia.
Here's the real objective list, no need to thank me.
