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Your Bromon gets +20BST towards 1 stat.
Which stat? What happens to its viability?

I'd say +20 to HP to Pic related. I want a Bulky Bat.
As for how viable it'd be, I think it might jump a tier.
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>>25665863
Fuck that. Poor bastard needs more special attack. It "just" misses out of getting good enough damage pumped out. Give it base 117 attack and watch how many 2HKO's turn into 1HKO's....at least against some frailer mons.
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20BST into Speed.

RIP everything.
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>>25665863
Damage output is fine but it's defenses really cave to so many attacks these days. So maybe +20 in HP. AV or Leftovers variants may have better survivability
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+20 to Sp. Attack, but no it doesn't fix it remotely. Only way to fix it is with a mega and a good secondary type.
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+20 to sp attack
117 sp attack and adaptability would make it solidly UU maybe even low OU
the only thing holding it back is it's meh stats
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Replaying RBY on virtual console made me miss how good Persian was. It has a low total stat allocation compared to some of the newer pokemon. In fact, there are 2nd stage pokemon with higher stats. If given the chance I would put stats into both speed and attack. But given the option to dump +20 int one, I'll go with attack.

Persian has a diverse movepool. If it could work as a fast physical sweeper I think Play Rough, Knock Off, Hyper Voice, and any other physical move could make decent.

I dunno, maybe it is just a lost cause.
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>>25665863
Mega Gardevoir gets +20 Speed. It's now much better and can keep up with Gengar, Starmie, and the Latis.
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>>25666538
except now it outspeeds all of those fucking things and it 2hkos the entire meta you worthless fuck
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+20 Speed for Luxray.

Now it's... still outsped and KO'd by many things, but I think it at least moves up a tier. Ideally in my uninformed opinion it gets a Mega with +40 Attack and +20/10/30 to Def/Sp.Def/Spd, along with access to Volt Tackle. But I feel like they'll go another way and make it a mixed attacker like Mega Absol if it ever does get a Mega.
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>>25666571
>what is Weavile with Poison Jab
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>>25666571
Many mons already do that, what's wrong with Garde doing it?
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+20 Defense
Not as frail anymore
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+10 to Speed, +10 to Defense in base form.
(80/125/85/40/95/95)
That +10 Speed goes to SpD in Mega instead, since M-Hera is actually meant to be slow.
(80/185/125/40/115/75)
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>>25666650
Came in here to post exactly this.
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>>25665863
+20 SpDef
>75/125/95 Defenses with Poison Heal and Roost
Literally my wet dream
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>>25666822
>>25666650
Wouldnt +20 in hp improve its overall bulk better?
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>>25666847
>liking Glascor
Fuck off, stallcunt.

>>25666860
Volcarona has pretty fantastic SpD and boosts it to boot. Its Defense is such a weak point that a +20 boost would do better than a general +20 HP.
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>>25665863
>+20 Speed
Can now outspeed most of the unboosted metagame. If you give it Dragon Dance it might become OU material.
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>>25666860
Different anon, but Volcarona is good enough as is, literally 1 Quiver Dance and anything that isn't Stone Edge can stop it.
I'd do Spt.Att to help against the harder to kill Pokemon like Azumarill or Pory2.
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>>25666871
stall is fun though
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>>25666906
Quiver Dance covers Sp. Atk especially if you're able to +2. Defense is a major weak point for Volcarona.
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>>25666871
>>25666906
>>25666975
Yeah I literally realized that after posting. Makes sense to boost the defense up.

Things like Klefki, Aegislash and Carbink would like more HP.
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>>25666999
Double trips sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
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>>25666975
I understand your reasoning, but more often than not, the Spt.Atk boost is going to be more useful than a couple extra points to it's worse stat. Those points won't stop a STAB Stone Edge but killing it in one shot will.

>>25666999
Sick gets.
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>>25666999
Agreed. Nice get though.
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>>25665863
20BST into Speed, does nothing to curb its biggest weaknesses but hopefully it'd be enough to make it a bit more viable
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>>25667031
I see your point. 20+ Sp. Atk would be useful, but Volcarona is going to Quiver Dance anyway and I'd like to keep it alive long enough to do so.

It won't stop a Brave Bird either but I can dream.
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>>25666351

>UU maybe even low OU

That's its current rank. Technically BL2, meaning its too strong for RU.
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+20 Def please.
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>>25667070
Hell I'd give it +10 to Attack and +10 to SpDef so it can take Special hits better. And it makes no sense to me that the "tyrant lizard king" has lower Attack than fuckin' Cranidos.
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+20 wouldn't do anything, unfortunately (+100 barely would if it wasn't minmaxed). Thank you for the gift, though, I might put it into Attack to make in-game runs with it smoother.
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Can 20 points even make enough of a difference to improve viability significantly?
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Every Gourgeist forme gets +20 HP meaning XL will end up with 105 base HP. It's pretty sad that all four formes get higher HP stats as they get bigger but the biggest one only has 85 base HP. This would help it generally tank special hits a little bit better than it does right now. It's also something a Mega couldn't fix because they don't fiddle with the HP stat.
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>>25666649

M-Gardevoir would be incredibly broken if it was any faster than 100. That Hyper Voice is one of the strongest unboosted attacks in OU.
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Porygon-Z gets +20 Spe. Choice Scarf Adaptability Tri Attack now rules OU, walled only by Ghost-types, and then only long enough to switch into Assault Vest Weaville and Knock Off.
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+10 in Spa and +10 in speed

Hydro pump would be nice
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+20 SpD
Hello OU.
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+20 to Att
For stronger Brave Bird
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+20 to Sp.Att
For better Nasty Plot shenanigans
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>>25667509
Forgot to put Brobat pic
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>>25667509
>>25667514
I'd love to see a M-Pidgeot-esque SpA-focused Mega-Crobat.
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+20 spe
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>>25665863

All Noivern needs is Aerilate.
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>>25667514
as for viability I have no clue if it would go up since I don't really follow competitive
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>>25665863
>Tyranitar
>+20 to Speed
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+20 speed
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>>25665863
+20 Speed
Being able to outspeed Mega Alakazam, Mega Aerodactyl, and all Scarfers with 93 base speed or lower would be a huge boon.
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>>25667480
Water shuriken and bullet seed all he needs
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>>25667593
Crobat prettt much has everything he needs

Giving him maybe hazards or EQ would help but hes fine
Only thing that pushes him back is his Average ability
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+20 Speed to these two, because fuck Mega Salamence getting faster while the fucking jet planes get shafted
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>>25666876
It's not taking out shit with that 100 base attack stat even with dragon dance.
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+20 to Special Defense

Quiver dance (best bug type move) would put some real bulk on masquerain and make it a solid special tank with a nice baton pass option.
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>>25668334
Oh god with Roost
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>>25666686
>not following the rules
Fuck you and your overrated piece of shit
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>>25667399
Speed tiers
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>>25667680
This would make mega sceptile so much nicer since it'd be so easy to get him behind a sub. Most electric types wouldn't be able to deal with him even more so now that he outspeeds the cast, so a sub on a switch would allow him to stay on top of his game.

>>25668000
Nice get
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+20 to attack
Massively improved swords dance and mixed sets.
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>>25668569
Forgot pic.
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>>25668569
Yeah I guess a lot of things get swords dance...
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>>25667399
5 points, in some cases a single point, in speed can make all the difference.
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>>25666871
>not making stallnerds cry with SD Gliscor

kek
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+20 to HP so he can hang out with the higher tier walls
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+20 in speed or either of his attack stats.
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Bump for +20 Spe
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>>25667680
This is my bro too but I'd personally put the +20 into Attack.
>105 Attack before Mega Evolving, same as its Special Attack
>130 Attack after Mega Evolving
The physical movepool on this thing is too good to pass up, and it would be nice if it could finally make good use of its signature move again.
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+20 defense
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+20 Speed

>still barely beats out lairon in BST
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>>25666666
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>>25670149
as for viability, i can see it going from PU to RU maybe, it still dies to a light breeze
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+20 HP to my nigga trevenant would help out his harvest chestorest gimmick. I could see him competing comfortably in OU.
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What stat does golurk even need the most? Speed? HP?
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>>25670915
I would say 20 to attack stat. Defenses are solid. Spe is beyond help. 20 attack would make it a somewhat fearsome physical attacker.
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>>25670915
nice art you have there
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+20 Speed

all of my yes
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>>25670149
Cross-gen evo when?
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