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>mfw we never see another baby Pokemon ever again
>>25665284
We haven't even Pokémon Sun and Moon and other future generations of Pokémon yet. So that's debatable...
You shouldn't rule out any possibilities
Why are Togepi and Riolu in here? They're not prevos, they were introduced in the same gen as their evolved forms.
>>25665306
I like to think GameFreak is smart enough to see how much hate people throw at the babies.
>>25665326
BABY POKEMON
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Cleffa is cute! CUTE!
>>25665326
Aside from being introduced in the same generation as their evolutions they share the same traits as the other babbies. They are baby Pokémon.
>>25665262
I never realized that Riolu was considered a baby Pokémon before.
>>25665326
They can't breed, originally only available as eggs, low bst. They're babies
Have we ever had a prevo that wasn't a baby Pokemon?
Do they have to be?
>>25665262
I feel like Mantyke is the most forgettable out of these
and that Skarmory should have gotten an equivelent
>>25665369
That's not Chingling.
Literally nobody talks about it. Not even when talking about forgettable pokemon.
>>25665330
None of that, which you said it is true.
Riolu is not a baby pokemon
It was in the same gen as its evolution
>>25665414
The defining trait of Baby Pokemon is that they can't breed. You have to evolve them first.
Riolu can't breed, thus it is a baby Pokemon.
Baby Pokemon should learn moves that their evolutions would otherwise be unable to learn/learn without tutor. Gives a little more incentive to breed/catch one and makes them more than just cute little bastards.
>>25665330
>I DONT LIKE THING SO NO ONE ELSE LIKES IT EITHER
Stop. You sound ridiculous. You are worse than those who say all cross gen evolutions were a mistake. You maybe be vocal but you are not a large section of the fandom.
>>25665414
It's a baby Pokemon because it can't breed, but its evolution can.
>>25665426
So is Nidoqueen a baby pokemon?
>>25665458
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Baby_Pok%C3%A9mon
>Must be obtainable by breeding.
>Must be the lowest form in a family chain and must be able to evolve at least once.
>Must belong to the Undiscovered Egg Group.
Nidoran is like a reverse baby.
Tyrogue is my favorite baby. Tyrogue and Elekid.
>>25665284
wynauT?
What if babies got some sort of buff? Not to make them useful competitively speaking, but something unique that makes them worth actually having other than a Pokedex number?
Of all of these, I only one used was Budew. Everything else just passed over my head.
>>25666504
Just make them obtainable in the wild. They're not inherently bad. The only real issue is that they can only be obtained through breeding.
I did a run in Emerald where I only used babies and they're much more fun to use than the normal early-region mons.
>>25665458
No, Nidoqeen is a case of Gamefreak fucking up, and then refusing to admit they fucked up. They forgot to put it in an egg group in one game, and then, instead of fixing it in the next game like a normal fucking dev, they just kept doing it.
i like wynaut, happiny, mantike, budew (is this actually a baby), cleffa and maybe munchlax
budew and happiny are great designs
>>25666684
To be fair, the autists in the fanbase would demand a logical explanation for the retcon.
>>25665458
Nidoqueen is a result of menopause
>>25665458
Nidoqueen cannot breed because it no longer needs to. It is a stone evolution so radiation may explain it become sterile, but its body is clearly designed for fighting vs. Nidorina's, and will focus on defending its existing children rather than create more.
>>25665262
So is the only defining factor that they are born as a pre-evo and are also born sexually immature?
...also, by canon, at some point a researcher had to conduct research to conclude that there is no possible way for these little tots to successfully produce an offspring...Oh God.
![Pokémon SE4 EP181 - The Apple Corp.avi_snapshot_19.35_[2016.03.04_10.13.43].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KkVdc5w.jpg "Pokémon SE4 EP181 - The Apple Corp.avi_snapshot_19.35_[2016.03.04_10.13.43].jpg")
I want to hug a baby pokemon
>>25666750
So Nidoqueen is a grandma pokemon?
Budew is the best and cutest baby Pokemon.
mantyke a cute
CUTE
>>25665365
Pokemon that would be okay with non-baby preevos:
>Lapras
>Aerodactyl
>Kangaskhan (Surprised this hasn't happened yet)
Did I miss any? Surprised they're all from gen 1.
>>25665262
I just wanna hold and cuddle a Riolu. Is that so much to ask?
Also, random thought. A lot of pokes, even more than the babies, evolve via max friendship with their trainer. So how does that shit work in the wild?
It's possible to find the "exclusively evolves through friendship" mons in the wild...I think.
What causes their evolution, if not the predefined game mechanic?
>>25666823
You're literally ripping the Pokemon away from its family when you catch it. Wild baby Pokemon evolve through happiness with their parents.
>>25666820
Kangaskhan needs a pre-evolution and male counterpart.
>>25666834
I can accept this explanation. Makes sense.
>>25666504
I like the "3 perfect IV" thing they got in X/Y, also, like budew they are useful to put some pokemon in areas where the evolution is to strong to have.
>>25666834
I'll just have to capture the whole family then. From chid to It's parents.
>>25665262
>Tyrogue
>Azurill
>Elekid
>Pichu
>Mantyke
>Riolu
These are my favorites.
>>25666820
>Tropius
>Skarmory
>Scyther
>>25666740
Kekek
>>25665262
I wouldn't be angry at these pieces of shit if they were introduced in early routes instead of just being a pain in the ass to get pokedex entries for and being useless otherwise.
I'm working on a game and was actually planning to have a baby lapras, skarmory, and tropius in it. I was going to have them available in the wild and have moves the parents could not learn otherwise. Is there any other suggestions y'all have to make them more likeable?
>>25665262
A few babies are alright, like togepi, muchlax, and riolu.
The shittery starts happening when they give pokemon that were shit statswise and already evolve babies. Like why the fuck did jigglypuff and clefairy need baby forms?
>>25666820
>>25667189
>Onix
>Pinsir/Heracross
>Absol
>Audino
>>25667261
Make evolving them easy. Lv15 or something.
>>25667355
Yeah, happiness can be a pain. I don't have a set in stone design for Skarmory yet but these are the designs so far. Do they raise the base stat of the parent when including a baby in a gen?
tyrogue is shit I can't use it without feeling that I'm enslaving a crippled kid
>>25667386
SO FUCKING CUTE
>>25667386
No, they dont. Babies exist primarily for movepool additions. For instance, Pichu learns Babydoll Eyes and I think Charm (which actually DID exist in gentoo) and Riolu gets Nasty Plot.
Think of a move Skarmory could probably abuse the hell out of and make a birb that can more reasonably learn it by level-up than Skarmory could.
>>25667405
Ah ok. Yeah, maybe like a priority move since it has a zippier design than a bulky skarmory.
>>25667189
>>25667321
Anything below 500BST doesn't need a pre-evo
???
>>25665262
>seeing this pic made me realize I dislike all the baby pokemon
except pichu
>>25667911
>except pichu
this
How else am I going to get Nasty Plot?
So why does this tiny piece of shit get a baby prevo?
>>25667386
whoever drew these should be hired by gamefreak
I'm still surprised Zorua didn't end up as a baby Pokemon, seeing how much it parallels Lucario
>>25667947
because drawing baby versions of existing pokemon is hard
>>25667893
It evolved from Pichu, but is still young...
>>25668025
Are those coconut boobles?
>>25665262
>Rhyhorn is clearly similar to Lairon
>Rhydon is clearly similar to Aggron
>Yet GF gives the line an ugly trade evo instead of a baby similar to Aron
>>25665365
Game Freak won't do it because of retconning issues. They try to avoid evos that should have been possible prior to the gen the evo is introduced. Of course, they have their exceptions (mamo etc).
>>25668054
I sure hope you haven't seen any neck boobies anon
>>25668106
>literally the bubonic plague
>>25665436
That is literally the only reason babies exist now other than flavor (not that I'm complaining, mind you). Not sure about level up but I'm pretty sure most babies learn egg moves their parents don't.
>>25666716
Kind of like hitting a Clefairy with a fighting move for the first 5 gens was super effective and then one day it just wasn't?
Okay.
>>25668106
>>25665458
Yes
The gif finally makes sense
>>25667321
Onix should be an alternte Geodude evo
You'd have to catch 15 Geodude and line them up in a pc box, then they'd fuse into Onix
>>25666740
Kek
>>25668132
>>25668106
>>25668025
Fucking awful
These literally look nothing like their "evolved forms"
They don't even share a similar color scheme
>>25665262
I just don't like most of their evolutionary methods to get back to the regular evo line. Friendship, special items, etc., ruin the babies. I guess friendship can stay, but the others should evolve by level up
>>25668132
>>25668160
>they don't just get bigger!
>>25668197
I am not the one who said it originally, but most baby pokemon still resemble their larger stages. Those ones, especially Cocano, don't really fit the bill.
>>25666823
photoshop made me cringe t b h f a m
>>25668160
>>25668025 and >>25668197 are good though. The other two are retarded, though, I agree.
>>25668197
last baby I have from this artist
>>25668242
aw, well I like them
>>25666850
Of course it makes sense. That's the fucking reason why it started with baby pokemon
>>25666820
>>25667189
>>25666820
I'd like to see more baby Pokemon like Tyrogue, except they use incense to evolve into different forms.
Heracross, Pinsir and Scyther
Miltank and Taurous
Not sure what else they could.
>>25667926
I think they wanted to add more Shinto and Asian religion inspired Pokemon to a region heavily inspired by Shinto. They added Machokes because Shiva and shit.
>>25665401
Chingling is a readily available psychic type in the diamond and pearl early game though.
>>25665414
>muh patterns
>muh autism
The only Pre-evo I want.
>>25668515
You're right. People don't forget about Chingling, they're just tired of Chingling.
>>25665262
THIS SHIT
Of all the dumb bullshit gen 2 foisted on us, Baby Pokemon are far and away the most egregious.
FUCK Johto.
>>25669148
>>25668515
Chingling is a perfect example of how bloated and over-designed the Sinnoh/4th gen dex was. There was no reason for it to exist, Chimecho design was perfectly simple and kawaii.
>>25668099
>It's possible to find the "exclusively evolves through friendship" mons in the wild...I think.
Mamoswine and yanmega (and... tangrowth?) all evolve after levelling up while knowing ancientpower.
Not the most straightforward method, but it was a clear retcon just like all other cross-gen evos.
>>25669148
i actually have forgotten about chingling a couple times since I've only played through sinnoh twice.
>>25665262
I really don't mind babies outside the fact that their stats are all over the place.
Tyrogue has 210 while Magby has like 365.
>>25668147
no
>>25668197
digimon
>>25665401
Chingling looks like Ike from South Park. That's the sole reason I remember it.
At least with baby Pokemon, I can actually believe that they fucking hatched from an egg.
Meanwhile: Tropius
>>25669649
Arceus came from a Egg.
>>25665262
I still want a baby form forLapras
