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Map burning edition. Old thread >>25581561

SPMD .cia http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw

Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.

Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck

/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u

PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-

Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA

Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
REMIDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as. American
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>>25610256
oh it's cute

i love these two
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totally gonna post more of my Red adventures in the morning
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i barely listened to it while i was fighting but holy shit is the Second Dark Matter Battle song good

it's got just the right amount of heroic anime bullshit crescendos and partner's theme mixed in to make my feels ache
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>>25610403
It is just beautiful. Better than the first stage song
The music in Super really gets better and better as you play
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>>25610406
I think my only gripe with it is the chanting-like sound at the start was orgasmic but they don't play off of it in the rest of the song

maybe it's better that way though? i dunno
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>>25610256
>tfw Armaldo and the Guildmaster never reunited.
Why live?
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>>25610711
>Why live?
There is no reason other than biological urges and chemical reactions that make you want to continue doing it until reason gets the better of you
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>>25610731
Everyday, I do it for my partner.
I live for his smile. That is all I have.
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>>25610256
Why would Igglybuff do that? Don't they need the map to get back to the guild?
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>>25610731
>>25610711
>>25610736
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>>25610256
I beat Darkrai and evolved my starters in Darkness

Is there anything else to do besides collect waifus? Should I get a Sky ROM and make a challenge/gimmick team? (hack in 2 starters of same type or something or start with really shitty mons)
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>>25611084
>he evolved
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Do Perfect Apples have permanent effects on your team? Like If I want to expand my belly size, will it stay that way after the dungeon?

My HP is around 100 now all thanks to sitrus berry like items, I doubt I could go through any of the post game dungeons with 60HP.

Also any good money making tips? All I know is that apples sell well, and you should probably farm them in Super Apple Forest, but is there anything else I'm missing? Money came so easily in the older games, selling bands mostly.
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>>25611424
No. Perfect Apples do not permanently increase belly size. Only for that dungeon
>Any good money tips?
I would say goldbars, but those are important
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>>25611424
go ahead with the apples, they're probably the easiest thing, especially with apple forest dumping them on your head

though what you really want is gold bars, I don't know a good way to grind them yet
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>>25611444
Oh well, I've only managed to get 2 so maybe I'll hold onto them since they could be rare.

>>25611455
Yeah, I'm holding onto my Gold bars for stat and other items you can't buy with money. Might just go with apples I guess.

>"there's a fainted pokemon on the floor, deliver it an apple"
>get to pokemon
>there's an apple beside it
you lazy fucker
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Since not everyone got to answer last thread:
>What is your ideal Mystery Dungeon game?

>Sky's detail in the postgame and emotional investment (yeah, Gates may have had a better story, but I just couldn't distance myself from the terrible mechanics)
>Super's smoothness in mechanics
>Connection Orb is banished forevermore, and Sky's recruitment system comes back with slightly higher rates
>The return of the Pokémon Paradise and the ability to customize it
>The addition of rarer Rainbow Emeras that cannot be removed from a looplet once placed
>IQ becomes tied to level-up, so you'll automatically have full IQ at level 100 but earlier if you use Gummis
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>>25613345
ooh the permanent emeras would be cool

that's some progression that is really missing from PMD is custom equips

the REALLY powerful ones would probably be super rare and a grind to find i bet, but you could make really cool looplets and spec for certain scenarios

maybe we could even name the looplet for fun
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So what got you all into the PMD series? Like did you just pick it up when you saw it just because it was Pokemon? Did it take some convincing? Reviews? Let's plays? Topic on this board or some other forum?
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>>25613429
I literally pick up games i don't know about if the cover is cute

it's how i picked up chocobos dungeon too

turns out i accidentally picked up my favorite pokemon game ever (eos)
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>>25613429
>See commercial for Red Rescue Team
>"Pokemon can talk in this game!?"
>Get Sky a few years later
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>>25610711
>first postgame mission in Super
>Igglybuff tells me to deliver a seed to Armaldo
fug
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>>25613345
I hate random chances in general, so I really liked the connection orb, but I think it should have implemented better with more missions and more dialogue.
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>>25613518
I liked the idea someone had where you get some guaranteed pokemon from the orb, like npcs and friends, but you can get other mons and duplicates through the random recruitment
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>>25613345
I'd want dungeons longer than 99 floors, maybe with a break room every 100th that has a kanga for bank storage and different restrictions the next chunk of floors.

And the return of Friend Areas from red/blue, they were comfy.
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>>25613639
subsisting off shops and pickups might be interesting in a superlong dungeon too
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>>25613378
>maybe we could name items
>unidentified items
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I own the original DS Mystery Dungeon Pokemon game. Is it worth me going back, digging it out and playing it? There have been a total of 6 games so far, right? Three sets of 2?
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>>25613901
A set of two games, one for GBA and one for DS (Red and Blue Rescue Team)
A set of three games for the DS. Time, Darkness and Sky. Sky is the improved version and the one you should play.
A set of three games for the Wiiware which share the same save file together. It's only worth it for the gameplay, which is the same as the DS games, but everything else isn't as good. They're only in Japanese.
Gates to Infinity for the 3DS. Story, music and graphics are good, the gameplay not that much. The basics are there, but it feels lacking. They tried to make it a little interesting by doing some of the stuff in a different way. It feels like a prototype version of Super with stuff filled in just to be able to sell it.
Super for the 3DS. The complete version of Gates to Infinity basically. Different story and stuff, the game is harder. They added some cool stuff.

If you like Blue Rescue Team, then play it. And play Sky as well too. Then I guess you can skip to Super.
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>>25614115
Gotcha. Thanks. The little I played of it seemed a bit tedious, but I loved how they incorporated real moves and abilities.

I also like seeing Pokemon act like they are described in their pokedex.
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>>25613901
You need to play Sky (best game in the series), if you like it you backtrack to Blue and after that Super to learn the new mechanics. No other games are needed
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>>25614115
The story is better in Gates? I am interested in Gates because I ship espeon and umbreon and them seem to have big roles in Gates. Is it worth it to buy it for the story?
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>>25614308
are you into incest?

>Is it worth it to buy it for the story?
I'd say so. It's better if you don't know the other games as you wouldn't know what to expect though.
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>>25614364
I have a copy of Sky because I heard its the best one, and I just finished Super.
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>>25614413
oh I have not started on Sky yet, I plan to do that after I 100% Super.
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>>25614413
The characters are nice, but I personally don't think GtI's story is better than the rest. Some have it as their favourite though. Give it a try.
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>>25613429
>heard about the first games and saw the manga in Nintendo Power, kid me loved the idea of self-inserting into a Pokemon-only universe and got hyped as fuck
>unfortunately never got to play it until a while later; got a spare copy of RRT from someone and lent it to a classmate, his parents confiscated it and never gave it back, and to top it all off he moved to another state
It wasn't until the release of EoT that I got to truly own and finish a PMD game. Loved the music, characters, story, world, and self-inserting, and it's painted my expectations for the series ever since. Which is why Super was a pretty big letdown, even if the gameplay itself was god-tier.

>>25613345
>music on the level of Rescue Team's and Explorers' melodies, with an uncompressed OST
>Explorers' world, writing, progression, and postgame
>Super's move and ability balancing and other QoL improvements, especially improved partner AI, leader-switching, and pushing
>some sort of resolution between IQ and emeras
>the Connection Orb's now married with the old randomly-generated missions and recruitment rates; only Orb missions can unlock new areas (including the ones where legendaries reside) and guarantee recruitments with Hidden Abilities, while duplicates can be recruited through the old means
>more legendary fights
>nameable recruits return, along with the ability to rename them
>actual rewards and imperatives for finishing the level 1 dungeons besides recruiting Staraptor
>dungeons don't count towards 100% completion until you exit through the bottom floor
>a new adjustment to the team limit allowing for teams that can consist only of two gigantic Pokemon, making dual legendary teams possible
>StreetPass, alongside Helper Pokemon, integrates EMD's Guild Cards, which show off your team name, greeting, game progress, and achievements
>online rescues with no region locking
>customizable scarves and outfits
If only.
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So, are the stat distribution different in SMD? Also, how much does Megas change?
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>>25614643
Yes, Pokémon have stats which actually resemble their main series ones now. Everyone has much less HP than previously, too.
Mega Evolution doesn't change your stats but makes your regular attack super strong. I'm pretty sure it also boosts your damage.
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Would anyone like to help a guy out with a Rescue Team rescue?

X5?7N !RY-??? MR4?3
?W??? ?FF2K?-? ?MRJ?
??S?- W???Y?? 1...R?N

God I hate the codes on this but it's this or start over.
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>>25614730
Seems like the gender symbols didn't go through.
Fuck it I'll just take a picture.
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>>25614742
And here we go
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>'If you kill me, I'll come back!'
>'Sure, I'll kill you!'
>'You're part of this world, I accept you!'
>Partner proceeds to kill Dark Matter anyway
Make up your damn mind!
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So let me get this straight
I came back to this place to save a Skiploom who is most likely now a burnt pile of leaves?
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>>25614844
I'm pretty sure the partner means that she accepts the negative feeling as part of herself, not really everything the black matter is made of. It's strange but I can understand where they were going for with this.
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>>25614924
Yep.
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>>25614791
>tfw no rescue
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>>25614975
i did it i just need to post the pic
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>>25614951
Sure did it in a bizarre way. Doesn't help that accepting your flaws was pretty much never mentioned at all in the rest of the story if I remember correctly. Maybe the ending will give it more context.
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>>25614995
Ah alright, thanks.
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>>25614957
welp, now I'm on fire, but this bitch was perfectly fine
was it worth?
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>>25614791
>>25614975
here it is!
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>>25615028
aww shit nigga, we've got a live one here
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I once got the mission to get Dragon Cave ON FUCKING SKY TOWER. And if you're wondering how the fuck I could get there given I didn't have Fly nor any way to get it: Wonder Mail.
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>>25613345
>Gates
>Better story

Also, Connection Orb is the worst thing they added to SMD.
>Can't evolve some mons
>Can't nickname them
>Some can't be used for every single mission
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>>25615226
Gates's story was the only one that was good. The rest are just good by pokemon standards.
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>>25615283
>Gates story
>Better than Sky
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Is Red Rescue Team any different from Blue in terms of content and story?
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>>25615436
It's the same in everything. The only difference is that Blue Rescue Team has two screens, touch screen controls and more buttons. Also the audio is a little different. Story is exactly the same.
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>>25615419
Sky had a slightly better plot, but I didn't find myself caring for any of the weakly written characters, hence I never cared about the story.

Special episodes, especially 2 and 5, improved dramatically though.
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>>25615436
Nope, the only difference is that you can place things on the bottom screen like the map.
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>>25615145
It's story time kiddies, the plot just kicked in
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>>25615511
Time to make everyone love me now
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>>25615861
hmm, something's missing, oh right
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When does SMD get fun? I'm on like the 5th story dungeon and every single moment of the game so far has been a boring tutorial.
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>>25616122
When you leave the village.
That's when the tutorial is over and the game kicks it into overdrive.
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So, I want to get my Swampert (which is not a Swampert yet, really) Waterfall and a good fourth attack, the other ones being earthquake and ice punch. Where can I find waterfall or any good fighting move ? Also, is there a good physical ground move that doesn't hurt your partners ? I'm on PSMD, by the way.
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>>25616122
Tutorial ends when you learn about alliance attacks.
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>>25616122
Tutorials basically last until the trip to Lively Town, about halfway through the game.
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>>25615868
Shit
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>>25616122
Pacing in PSMD is pretty slow at the start so essentially it only picks up once you get to Lively Town.

>>25614364
Does it explicitly say in the dialogue that Espeon and Umbreon were siblings? To be fair, the only mention of that I saw was the Bulbapedia article.
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>>25616460
so you mean there's still a chance
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>>25616492
There's an easter egg in PSMD when you recruit Flareon, Umbreon, and Espeon that those two in particular like to play together exclusively

I'd assume as much from the dialogue in GTI when they reunite in Post Town that their relationship seems deeper than simply siblings.

But... I tend to ship things a lot so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>25616538
That scene was too cute I even took a pic!
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>>25616570
I'm glad more people are enjoying PSMD.
Been a while since I've been on /vp/ due to a lot of circumstance and to avoid the spoilers...

I absolutely loved the game and it's definitely a contender to EoS as the best PMD game I've played so far.
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Is it worth it to use motivated pokemon in SMD? They are usually pretty weak so I wonder if it's worth it to go through that trouble.
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>>25616607
I only use motivated Unown because they double everyone's exp. Regular motivated mons only give boosted experience to themselves.
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>>25616607
Motivated Pokémon in SMD is best utilized as a team because of the way XP sharing works. Basically, you're allowing all recruited Pokémon have double XP if you use a motivated team in a dungeon run/request.

Having a motivated Unown triples that already doubled experience iirc.
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>>25616636
Other way round, motivated Unown just doubles everyone's EXP.
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>>25616665
Right... so motivated team was 3x then motivated Unown adds a 2x multiplier. I've recently cleaned my save for replaying SMD sometime so I've been a little fuzzy on the deets.

Essentially the best way to make strong mons in SMD is when you get a hold of the Water Looplet and you do the pierce-throwing tactic from older games. I've never maxed HP this way yet though...
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>>25616460
>Does it explicitly say in the dialogue that Espeon and Umbreon were siblings?
They do the first time you meet them

>>25616492
>>25616538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfrA3X_Qcwg
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>>25616773
I forgot to mention, there's a little minor GtI spoiler in that video, just for that anon
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Bitches get stitches
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>>25616849
too late... but I enjoyed the video anyways.

So... what does it say in the connection orb? I have connected with them but can't really check right now.
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>>25616773
I don't think there's a point to really debate on it aside from headcanon ships and whatnot but I'm seriously missing where it's mentioned in GTI...

>>25616918
Does the connection orb actually mentions Pokémon's relationship to each other? I just figured it connected to make sense and pay homage to the older games like Virizion, Emolga, and Dunsparce in one group
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>reach Calm Craggy Area
>7 members
>"I bet we'll have some bullshit reason for splitting up."
>we don't
>mfw
Holy shit, this is great. Choo choo motherfuckers, the Expedition Train can't be derailed!
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>>25617027
>I'm seriously missing where it's mentioned in GTI...
Maybe you're right. I even played it recently, and I thought I read it in one of the dialogues, but now I've searched for "rother", "ister" and "ibling" (because it's case sensitive) in the script of the game, and apparently it isn't there.
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>>25617537
HABENNING
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>>25617537
Don't sweat too much, senpai. Like I said, it's really silly to debate what it's really like especially since Game Freak knows their fans and they like to tease us with implied ships.

It's not even my top ship in the PMD series since that goes to Virizion x Emolga
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>>25617611
Nah, don't worry, I had everything already, I just checked if it was mentioned
chunsoft btw
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>>25616852
bruh
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>>25614528
chunsoft better be taking this shit down

if they ever make another pmd game that is[insert the saddest pepe here]
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>>25617645
>Thinking they'd browse /vp/ for ideas

The list is pretty comprehensive and I definitely agree with most points brought up.

Honestly though, I'd be happy they make another PMD game since they pulled off SMD pretty well with only few hiccups here and there imo.
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>>25617254
I hate babysitting though, I can't babysit an entire preschool

they'll waste LITERALLY all of my reviver seeds
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>>25617642
Wew, you're already finishing it. What are you planning to do with your Eevee? I suggest taking best eeveelution ESPEON.
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>>25617687
>Espeon is best eeveelution

I'd suggest Leafeon but it doesn't exist in that gen yet unfortunately ._.
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>>25617642
You're not truly done until you've completed the post story, wished on Jirachi, and recruited all legendaries
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>>25617698
>._.
Anon...
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>>25617687
Espeon you say? well, would probably be useful, any other suggestions?
>>25617704
[sad Eevee noises]
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>>25617642
I can hear the boss music already.
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>>25617735
i think your Sun Ribbon is in Wyvern Hill, bring two Keys there.
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>>25617735
I wouldn't go for Jolteon for you already have a Pick-a-jew, but dunno, dude. Which eeveelution do you like?
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How likely would it be that NA gets the older PMD games on WiiU VC? Especially since RT was recently announced for Japan and EU already has both Explorers and RT.

>>25617757
Man... I forgot how tedious non-level up evos are to get in older PMD games...
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>>25617735
I'm not crying, you're crying!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rL23YC1kOg
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>>25616773
>these scenes aren't in the game

for why chunsoft, you could have had a ton of these and i would have almost forgiven you for the lacking postgame
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>>25617788
>implying levelups weren't tedious shit in Blue

Spheal needs 30k+ per levelup
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>>25617804
>Spheal needs 30k+ per levelup
Alright, alright. To be fair, PMD RT was pretty tedious on its own with regards to completion.

Flashbacks of Lucario Rank... ugh
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>>25617645
I think they're going to make more, it would seem strange if they stopped desu

>>25617706
nothing wrong with that
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>>25617863
>nothing wrong with that
A-anon...
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>>25616179
Anyone ? It sucks having shit moves.
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>>25617704
just end my suffering now
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>>25617932
You can just use Earth Power, it's special but who cares when all stats can hit 255?
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>>25616179
>>25617932
Have you checked with Cofagrigus' TM inventory? They're really your best bet unless you happen to get lucky with Kecleon dungeon shops.

>>25617982
Not sure how this all started out but keep on keeping on, senpai.
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>>25617999
does it evolve over time ? I unlocked the rare items but it doesn't help that much.
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>>25618063
Evolution's locked till you finish story stuff like with all other PMD games
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>>25618084
I meant Cofagrigus' shop, my starter already evolved once.
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>>25618106
Don't know if his inventory improves apart from the treasures so I can't say for certain. The alternative is Hawlucha move tutoring which is pretty pricey.
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>>25617757
wait... don't you need a water type pokemon to get those items, because not only are they behind locked walls, but surrounded by water?
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>>25618391
>he doesn't grind his main mon's IQ to get Super Mobile

You'll need 5-6 stars of IQ to evolve Eevee anyways
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>>25618425
>4 stars
fuck, and I thought I had lots of IQ already
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>>25618441
IQ takes forever to get anyway, it caps at 10 stars as I recall.
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>>25618578
question, can I recruit legends if I has two or more pokemon in my team?
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>>25618668
You can always recruit pokémon if there isn't room for them in your current team, you'll just send them home with your badge if you don't send one of your current members back.

If you can have a legendary, or any pokémon in your team depends on their size. Most pokémon are of a small size that'll allow you to have 4 pokémon at once, but larger pokémon will reduce the number your team can hold.
Obviously not all legendary pokémon are huge.
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>>25618668
Dont listen to >>25618699 in Rescue Team, you cannot recruit pokemon if you have 4 pokemon on your team, or if your Size rating would exceed 6. Nearly every legendary is **** size rating.

Also you need to land the finishing blow on them, not your partners.
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>>25618716
I've learned that partner thing out long ago... terrible thing to happen
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>>25618730
You can get to the pokemon you want to recruit, and send your partners home. Keep in mind they'll lose their hold item, and if they were recruited in the same trip, leave forever
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>>25618716
Oh excuse me, I though they were talking Explorers, not Rescue Team.
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>>25618744
I'm pretty sure you can send pokemon home without penalty while during the half way points
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>>25618757
You can, even pokemon recruited in that same trip.
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someone's begging for mercy
get the lube ready
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>>25618859
Better boost that level, your level matters for recruitment
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>>25618859
I am a pretty
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>>25619652
Good job anon !
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>>25619652
no it's not umbreon
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>>25619805
hey, don't lose your head, I love Umbreon too
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>>25619652
So, should I attempt to get Raichu before, or after Stormy Sea?
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>>25619925
Who cares, i dont think Raichu can learn many more moves than pika
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here, have some art
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Ayy lmao Ears 5
spoilers to PMD:GtI and PSMD and all that

Chapter 1: http://pastebin.com/30BfS1zk
Chapter 2: http://pastebin.com/cBdZrYvj
Chapter 3: http://pastebin.com/r5PVcjJ6
Chapter 4: http://pastebin.com/PS1A9G02
Chapter 5: http://pastebin.com/HvmvK4YL
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>>25620313
does this have any loods in it

i only read stories with loods
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>>25620461
No loods, too many broken bones to fuck
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>>25619943
pika learns agility soon, that sounds far too broken to pass up
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>>25620461
>>25620313
>romance and crushes
>cuddling

h-holy shit that's lewd, maybe i can read this after all
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>>25620506
aw man this is why i don't read stories

they're just too stressful when bad shit happens

i require a constant stream of saccharine bullshit to distract me from the cold inevitability of life
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>>25620755
I'm at the final chapter now, where things

>>25620781
I'm pretty sure I'm not quite skilled enough to properly portray the correct amount of suffering.
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>>25619652
So, go fight Kyogre or go to the three islands and fight Entei?
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>>25621351
welp, I'm going to sleep, I'll see what happens in the morning
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>>25620877
>I'm at the final chapter now, where things
I don't understand, was this a question or an unfinished statement
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>>25622399
Where things happen*
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>>25622496
>>25620313
anyway i read all of them and now im just sad and i must again reiterate this picture

>>25610769
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>>25623709
Now you gotta wait until the last chapter comes out for any closer at all
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>>25623766
dammit i cant believe im so into mystery dungeon that im reading fanfics that AREN'T porn
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>>25624435
It's called investment, anon. I'll probably have a read of them myself later.

Is there a synopsis the writer put up or do I just jump in blind?
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>>25624524
they set the scene fine so you pretty much jump in blind, it's got spoilers for gti and super if you care about that, I guess the story kinda assumes you've already played the two games
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>super has no intro at all
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>>25625579
>12 hour tutorial
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Level 21 Charmander in SMD, I have 4 gold bars

Should I buy Flamethrower from Coffaragus? Or should I buy Sp. Atk rods? Or should I save up till I have that water looplet everyone is talking about?
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>>25625813
Charmander naturaly learns flamethrower.
You already have ember and flame burst(or you should)
You can buy the S.atk roids if you want but you should wait until you have the water looplet so you can roid up 2 pokemon at the same time
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>>25625755
I don't think it was necessarily 12 hours long but the beginning was a little too slow to my liking.
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>>25625933
I think the real kicker is that it made the last quarter of the story go way too fast. It felt like the story needed to be about five hours longer for it to be effective.
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>>25625960
Yeah, Chunsoft messed up the pacing quite a bit in SMD as much as I enjoyed the game.

Hard to say if it was because of the development cycle because it felt like the progression went too fast toward the end.

I personally wouldn't have minded the length of the Serene Village portion if it was paced and pulled off a bit better. It felt really weird because the game was still introducing stuff past 6~8 hours into the game.
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>>25625992
I remember the start of Gates being a bit tutorial, but that was all done in about 3 hours as opposed to about 8 in Super.

Come to think of it, there were a lot of story choices that I really liked in Gates that Super sadly went away from, such as having the partner's goal to do something other than be an explorer, or downplaying the partner.
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>>25626055
Hm... it might just be my opinion but I do like how Chunsoft did the writing for the partner in SMD more than I did Gates.

Gates however had the division of focus on the other characters unlike in SMD where other characters simply don't get much limelight at all.

All in all, each title had a good thing going for it. Which is probably why I enjoy all the PMD games as a whole.
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>>25626088
Super Partner is my favorite partner
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>>25626108
The real truth

I'm really thankful that Chunsoft doesn't lose their touch with the writing when it comes to the endings of any PMD game.
Maybe I'm a little sappy but every first experience I have the endings, I'm left as a sobbing mess of tears each time.
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>>25626088
I preferred the Gates approach to the story, since I found that I couldn't get attached to the partner in any of the games (except maybe Gates, but that was more because I didn't find him annoying unlike the others.) So I really liked dividing the focus to other characters like in Gates to avoid having the partner outstay his welcome.

One of the reasons why I couldn't get into Super's story that much was doing the reverse of that and putting the entire story on the partner's back, and I just ended up getting tired of him after a while. Since I ended up not thinking much of the only main character (since the player is pushed so far out of the limelight that he's becomes a side character), the entire story kind of flopped for me. If it took less of a partner focus, I'd find him far more likeable since he'd be less in your face and even if I still didn't, I could find myself rooting and caring for the others more since they'd get more attention.

On the flipside, I do really like Super's gameplay, which really made the game for me.
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>>25625960
>>25625992
How extra hours of story could have been added:
>return from the voidlands
>Serene Village and Lively Town petrified
>Exploration Guild building destroyed, Cofagrigus and Klefky found hiding under the rubble, and are the only ones not petrified along Ampharos and Jirachi
>Flee to a town in another continent, trying to find a way to fix up the mess
>Mass petrifications keep happening
>Forced to flee again to another continent until one town is left
>Continue on with the story as normal
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>>25626211
I think what they really needed to do is a time travel segment to the past. Celebi went back in time, so he could have taken the rest of the survivors along for the ride. It'd really help if we actually saw what happened there with a few dungeons in between for the reincarnation stuff and learning from the past and all that stuff make a proper impact. Since they didn't, the whole reincarnation of Mew thing just felt like a 'huh, ok then' moment since Mew got mentioned only once or twice before then.
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>>25626211
These are still spoilers, friend.
People might've not gotten this far into the game yet. Please use spoiler tags for these
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>>25626237
Would have to avoid showing how the protagonist was in the past, assuming it was human back then
Also a time paradox could have been a much better way to deal with Dark Matter than the "I accept you" bullshit
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>>25626373
Don't you like, persona, Anon?
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>>25626373
The whole acceptance bullshit didn't even make any sense and came right the fuck out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure killing something is the exact opposite of accepting them, and accepting shitty aspects as part of yourself was never mentioned once in the story up until that point, yet that convoluted self-contradicting method was somehow the magic key to it all. Even if the partner said 'I'm fine with you coming back, since because there is good in the world too, it'll rise again to stop you, over and over and over again', it'd be generic, but it'd at least add up.

I think Explorers did that paradox thing too
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Rescue Team
Go to Stormy Sea and Kyogre?
Or to Fiery Plains and Entei?
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>>25626472
The paradox in EotS is that since Dialga never went full retard/primal, there was no bad future for you to be born in and then get sent back from. Except Dialga pulled you out of the paradox because the partner really wanted you back. And then Arceus outparadoxed everyone else so who knows how the timeline is anymore but no one cares since it's like nothing happened by PSMD.
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>>25626524
Scottish firedog, of course.
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Just got the water looplet
Charmander, Riolu partner

Should I share some speed roids between me and partner, and then use Sp. Attack roids on myself, and Atk. On my partner?
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>>25626783
Use everything for both if you're gonna use them all the way.

When everything's 254 (Correct me if I'm wrong), you can have your option of whatever type of move be it physical or special
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>>25626834
So theres no distribution cap? I can just boost all my pokemons stats till they reach their individual maxes, rather than worry about having to get the ratios right?
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>>25626955
All your stats can be 255. You could have a fucking Machamp with 255 Sp Attack if you wanted
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>>25626524

I always went to Stormy Sea first.
That said it's 40 floors and Kyogre is only level 28 for some reason.
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So... What is the best way to beat Regigigas in PSMD ? The three Regi are not that hard but that motherfucker owns me so hard it hurts. I've tried many different objects but it cures itself instantly most of the time, which makes me lose my turn. help ? (My levels are mostly ~35)
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Rescue Team, Is Solar Cave a good place to grind Escape orbs? because I have like 4 now from one trip, and I', still probably going to find more
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>>25627669
Have you tried attack reducing moves? Charm?
If you've got nothing else, you can use Unburden Liepard with Growl. Combine with defence/sp.def reducing moves and Reflect for maximum efficiency.
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>>25627782
if you're going to recruit everything, you'll need a fuckton of them. When writing my recruitment guide, i've found they're easily found in Howling Forest/Pitfall Valley/Grand Sea, though they can be found in nearly every dungeon. If you go to howling forest, try to recruit Exeggcute on 14f, it's one of the rarest.
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>>25627852
i'll recruit every legend, but fuck going for EVERY pokemon
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>>25627887
but it's fun
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>>25627887
also, should I teach Reflect to Espeon and get rid of growl?
Eevee does not have great level up moves, and it's all I had
>tfw Umbreon the actual tank can't learn Reflect or Light screen
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>>25627887
What's wrong, dont want to be a master rescue team?

>>25627981
Reflect sucks, it's all offense after you start outleveling stuff
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>>25627887
>breaking board rules
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>>25627992
but I can still replace growl with it for now yes?
>>25628143
scuse me?
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>>25628154
it counts, right?
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>>25628185
let's be honest, anyone here any normal person would think that it's a cute little joke rule
I'd totally do it, if I could actually level all of them up
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>>25628185
Technically you don't catch anything in these games but you're not a true explorer until you've recruited them all in one non-SMD game
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>>25628280
question, what pokemon are not obtainable in SMD?
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>>25628299
Volcanion doesn't exist
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>>25628299
All pokemon whose names end in "olcanion"
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>>25628248
Why would you think I'm not joking though?
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When does Kecleon decide to join in SMD? I have the max rank. What are the other requirements?
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>>25628313
>>25628317
well duh, Volcanion doesn't even exist in the main games yet either
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>>25628335
it does though, it's just unreleased
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What the fuck is wrong with Espeon's idle stance in RRT/BRT?
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>>25628395
Jokes on you Lil nigga I got a shiny one
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>>25628455
I've been wondering that myself
I've got to use Espeon now, it's cute, but the animation could be better
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>>25628480
It's not even an animation: it just freezes when you stop moving.
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Do shines exist in mystery dungeon games?
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>>25628522
Yus
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>>25628330
About 700 connections

>>25628522
You can fight a shiny Ho-Oh in Gates, and there are random shinies in the WiiWare games, which have 200 Belly.
Also, there's a shiny Celebi in Explorers and SMD, but it's only playable in the latter.
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>>25628522
yes, i found a shiny swinub
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>>25628529
>>25628538
So wait

Do shinies have the same loway recruitment are as every other pokemon?
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>>25628552
Low recruitment rate*

Phone spellchecker absolutely butchered that
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>>25628552
I don't know. Nobody's played the WiiWare games since they're Japan-only.
I doubt even the PMD devs could be that cruel, though.
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>>25628640
>Nobody's played the WiiWare games
not true, I have
Not much though, and not enough to find shinies.
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Is Attract one of the most broken moves on these games?
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>>25629116
not anymore since PSMD
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>>25624524
This is a synopsis, but it's in the Writethread's catalog. Since I update chapters individually here I feel like it'd be redundant for the people who do know what this is to have to deal with a giant, ugly wall of text again and again. It's also a super general thing so it doesn't matter at all.
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>>25629168
what changed?
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>>25629209
there was no gender in Rescue Team, Attract stunned everything for like 5 turns. In Explorers, genders were added so it wasn't as reliable, but still stunned. Now it only has a chance of stunning
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>>25629410
rescue team confirms canon gay pokemon
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>>25629447
You can even make legends fall for you. Cool shit.
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>>25629410
I thought genders didn't matter in Explorers either, though.
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>>25629461
There actually is a difference outside Attract and Captivate. Males have a slightly higher crit rate, and females have a slightly higher evasion rate. The book that comes with Time/Darkness says it. I took a pic of it, but i lost the pic and can't be bothered to retake it right now.
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>>25629478
Yeah, I knew that, I was talking abut Attract. Thanks though
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>>25627669
Spam Memento from Chandelure or something. Try Alliance attacks or Truant wands
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>>25629455
>seducing Rayquaza in the final battle
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>>25631871
>So, how'd you have Rayquaza join your team?
>"I kind of just, gave him a boner I guess?"
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>>25631871
>>25631881
I was an Eevee while doing this
yeah, pretty awkward
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>>25632006
>Implying Rayquaza doesn't like short chicks
Then again, considering his size, he'd have to like short chicks
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>>25632023
the next few dates got pretty weird honestly
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>>25632140
>>25632023
>>25632006
>>25631871
>>25631881
>size difference
guys i can't be lewd here stop doing this to me
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>>25632140
Did he try to re-enact Aladdin and fly you around the world?
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>>25632163
he said he could "take me to the stars"
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>>25632174
And things got awkward when Deoxys showed up and a stroll through the stars turned into Rayquaza and Deoxys arguing for hours?
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>>25632193
Nah, I haven't gotten to Deoxys yet, he's still in that one dungeon
Although after I became an Espeon, it only fueled Rayquaza's lust
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>>25632193
>Rayquaza taking Eevee to his house
>Turns out someones throwing a party there since Palkia, Dialga, and other legendaries are there
>Rayquaza apologizing profusely and asking around why everyone was here
>"Well, Deoxys told everyone that you were throwing a party so-"
>"THAT FUCKING FAGGOT"
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>>25632209
>Although after I became an Espeon, it only fueled Rayquaza's lust
>Espeon
>SweatingRayquaza.jpg
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>>25632209
>>25632228
I'm pretty he's one of those guys that are, he likes the ones who are just so slighly old enough, still nice and young, but still developed
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>>25632236
So, what you're saying is, if this Espeon were to bring Rayquaza along anywhere, he'd be "distracted"?
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>>25632242
wouldn't you?
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>>25632228
>>25632236
>>25632215
>>25632193
>>25632174
>>25632163
>>25632140
>>25632023
>>25632006
>mfw qt Eevee seduces Rayquaza
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>>25632248
I'm a Flareon man myself
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>>25632251
>Rayquaza, the Pokemon in charge of keeping balance
>The Pokemon that's entire job is to stop Groudon and Kyogre from having a hissy fit when one beats the other in Pokken
>The Pokemon who protects the Earth from the terror that is Deoxys
>The Pokemon who's probably buddy buddy with Palkia and Dialga

>Has been seduced
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>>25632254
you should have seen me when recruiting another legendary
talk about fucking jealous
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>>25632273
>Legendary comments that they feel like they're being watched
>From the sky
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>>25632273
it took me a few tries to get him to come with me, I'd always have to come to him
it proved difficult a few times without the HM fly
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>>25632323
eventually he would be getting more.......
lewd
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Friendly reminder that FUG is a lady
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>>25632643
so either the one going with with the Eevee/Espeon is a lesbian, or is NOT a grill
because Eevee can't be a boy in PMD Rescue Team
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>>25632665
>Purest form of love yuri
>Or J-J-J-J-JAM IT IN!
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>>25632665
Lesbian
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>>25632665
>>25632680
>>25632705
oh I wish it were true, but this Rayquaza was definitely a guy
because I'm pretty sure Rayquaza doesn't have any legs
they didn't have feet either so
>they
yes, there were two of them
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>>25632732
>2 FUGS
You are full of shit
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>>25632750
I'm lucky I still have an ass, honestly
and he said he was going slow that time, next time he won't, send help, and tons of lube
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we should move this thread to /trash/ and get the real party started

though there's already a pokelewds thread, so there's no point
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>>25632842
>/trash/
If you like wearing a hazmat suit 24/7 then sure, I guess it's OK over there
But other from that, fuck no. You go over there, we'll follow
Trust us, just just go. We're right behind you
We're right behind you! Just keep going!
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>>25632780
all we can do is pray, and there is no lube anywhere
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