Pokemon: Then VS Now
POKEMON IS SO MUCH WORSE NOW
DUDE NOSTALGIA LMAO
>>25603964
ftfy
>>25603973
Mew is a mythical, not a legendary, and it's literally obtained the exact same fucking way as it was in gen 1, holy shit.
I interpret this as everything being better when you're a kid.
>>25603973
He's right
>>25603993
I'll give them this one, some things never change
>>25604004
>gen 1
>can't get mew without a glitch or if you live in NYC to stop by the nintendo store
>gen 6
>can literally just ask someone on the internet for a code
Legendaries are much easier to get now.
So the guy grew up to be a casual furfag?
way to go
>>25604007
so we know that he discovered /vp/ somewhere inbetween the first and the second panel for sure now. That also explains the nostalgia goggles.
>>25603973
>Secret Power Plant
Really? What was secret about the Kanto Power Plant?
>>25603991
>mythicals aren't legendaries
wut
>As I got older and experienced more and more of life, things I'd already undergone staled and were less exciting!
Wow what a fucking shock!
Also In Game Legends =/= Mythical Pokemon which you've always had to go to a fucking event to get.
>>25604007
>both of the pokemon in the second panel can be male
furfags please go
>>25604017
He's not talking about Mew in that picture though, he's talking about Zapdos. Legendaries are literally given out instead of you having to find them yourself it's fucking boring.
>>25604004
How to obtain Mew in gen 1:
>Attend single-day official Nintendo tour that you might have to travel to a different state for because they obviously didn't hold them in every bumfuck town
>they have finite Mews and might run out
How to obtain Mew in gen 6:
>Go to one of the multiple Gamestops in every single town at some point during an entire month
>they have finite Mews and might run out
He's retarded.
>>25604058
>He's not talking about Mew in that picture though
>"Mew sold out!"
>>25604058
You don't need a fucking code to get Zapdos in gen 6.
He's literally comparing the apples from one fruit basked to the oranges in another when both baskets have both apples and oranges in them.
>>25604063
then the example is a shit one,
because if anything there are more in-game events/legendaries
>>25604071
this nigga knows
>Pokémon was better when I was a kid also sex
I can't even bring myself to be mad about this, this is standard gamer comic material.
>>25604058
Mew is not a legendary, it's a mythical. Legendaries are found. Mythicals are given out.
It's been that way in every single gen.
>>25603993
>>25604007
These were the only two that got a chuckle out of me. The rest of these are shit.
>>25604043
>never told to go there
>can only be accessed by traveling back to an out of the way early game area after getting an hm
eh its pretty secret considering we're talking about the 90's.
>>25604073
first comment at>>25604058
>>25604058
Yeah it's a pretty shit example
Should have done the difference between getting latios/latias in the originals and the remakes but then he can't go us gen wunners amirite?
>>25603963
I actually once got WTed a Chespin named DlCKBUTTIt had good IVs and Egg Moves
>>25604090
It's not even shit, it's literally wrong.
>>25604077
>Mythicals and Legendaries
anyone who isnt autistic considers them all as legendaries. noone uses nintendo's shitty classification system except themselves.
>>25603982
That still flows pretty well
>>25604077
What is with this meme keep seeing? All mythicals are legendaries, but not all legendaries are mythicals.
>>25604084
I'm pretty sure an NPC talked about it, but maybe that was only in the remakes.
>>25603973
>running out of codes
Did this actually happen to anyone? My Gamestop had literally mountains of them.
>>25604077
>It's been that way in every single gen.
Victini?
Darkrai?
Shaymin?
Deoxys?
There was unreleased Arceus event too
There's plenty of Mythical Pokemon who have an event for them in their generation. They are not always just given out. It hasn't been the same way every gen
>>25604107
"legendaries you can only get from events", then, autist-kun.
"Legendaries you can only get from events" can only be gotten from events. "Legendaries you can not only get from events" are found in-game. Mew is the former, Zapdos is the latter. It's been this way since gen fucking 1.
>>25604084
That's just how internet works though. There's no more gossiping, it's plain information the way it has to be. Saying otherwise is nostalgia.
>>25603963
It's not as if Machoke doesn't evolve anymore, and Wonder Trade isn't the only method of trade - this is just a bullshit complaint.
>>25603964
People have though strategically like in the second panel since gen1, it even has a metagame, so this is just wrong.
>>25603973
This doesn't apply - there is a difference between actual legendaries and events. Events even existed in the earlier games. This is just fucking stupid.
>>25603982
Are they seriously complaining about them adding more Pokémon to the game? Props to them for having "Geodude, Rapidash, Magneton, Snorlax" though, it's actually in the original.
>>25603993
Only accurate thing, yet it only applies to people who are still fans of the franchise.
>>25604007
>Gardevoir with tits
Nothing else needs to be said.
>>25603973
Both the "Then" and "Now" are still true for today though. Hell, getting the extra legendaries in ORAS was far more complex than it was in any other generation.
>>25604111
Mythicals being referred to as "legendaries" is a mistranslation in early English marketing that they finally fixed in late gen 4. They've always been treated as two separate types of Pokemon in nip.
>>25604142
/thread
>>25604135
I'm not agreeing with the comic, I think its stupid. Just saying that back then if you didn't have a strategy guide or friends that play you'd probably have trouble figuring out where Zapdos is.
>>25604129
its still a shitty example
>>25603987
This is way too true..
So, in general, then, you were a kid, now you're an adult.
Me, I was naive, and then I got over it.
the only thing I miss from back then that there were less hacked pokemon (at least where i lived)
still don't get how its fun to just hack your pokemon with perfect ivs and nature and then use it in battle, its like insta gratification
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>>25604007
>Dorkly
reddit is that way pal
>>25604229
I don't think they find it fun. It's just easier so you can work around different teams without breeding for hours.
Breeding = Boring.
Injecting = Cheating.
Both have their problems and advantages.
ITT: anti genwunners get butthurt
>>25603973
This is true. Also
Then:
>need to actually go out of your way to find legendaries
Now:
>WOW, [player], YOUR BOND IS SO STRONG THIS LEGENDARY WANTS TO JOIN YOU
>>25604142
Just want to point out that obe of the comics was clearly about the Pokerap, which makes the comic actually spot on - try to rap 700+ mons and you would pass out from lack of oxygen.
>>25604082
Dorky just recycle the same Pokémon jokes over and over again.
>>25604265
You too, sir.
>>25604325
Could you make it more obvious that you are baiting, please?
>>25604350
>rap about 700+ pokemon
>not about the pokemon of that generation
https://youtu.be/Uvo7UevIv_8
>>25603993
what's the deal with this ? it's just another way to find out the news
>>25604350
Except the Pokérap doesn't get updated every generation and whenever we do get a new variation it's only of that generation's Pokémon, not every Pokémon ever.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvo7UevIv_8
>>25604397
>say something true
>"WAAAAH STOP BAITING"
>>25604417
its not true though
>>25604350
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t4E_MScTXuo
>>25604417
>true
>didn't even read the thread
>>25604397
Why do those subtitles misspell like half the Pokemon names?
>>25604434
Yes it is. Can you show me where you're handed a free Lati@s in RSE?
>>25604142
But those Events from before gave you a new area/dungeon to catch the legendary
>>25604145
For sure. I wouldn't have known I needed 3 Pokémon with max EVs on my team on certain days of the week to get the muskateer trio without looking it up online. Almost every legendary in ORAS is cryptic as shit to find.
>>25604074
It's also every Dorkly Pokémon comic ever made.
>>25604167
Yeah and you'd probably struggle to find most legendaries in the new games without a strategy guide or friends too
>>25604434
It's actually painfully true though
>>25604485
It's also every Dorkly comic ever made*
>>25604447
>free lati@s
>free m-lucario
>HURR HAPPENS EVERYTIME
An exception it's just that, an exception to the rule.
Also >>25604145 >>25604480 >>25604488
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>>25604402
>implying you can't sing them back to back for literally the same effect
>>25604447
Sure, there are more gimme legendaries now. But there are still tons of other legendaries you have to go out of your way to find that they don't just give to you
>>25604055
I see no issue.
>>25604505
Except there isn't a Pokérap/Ierukana for every generation.
>>25604447
Yes they give you that free Lati@s but it's because they built a game mechanic around flying on its back to find the other legendaries.
>>25603994
Agreed.
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>>25604504
genwunners plz go
>>25604526
>implyingnfans haven't created unofficial ones for those gens
I don't know why you are fighting it. If someone wanted to literally rap 700+ pokemon, literally nothing is stopping them from finding a way.
>>25604564
how crusty are your palms right now?
>>25604055
>can
>implying you wouldn't keep trying to get a female, unless you're wanting Gallade
>>25603973
This is what I miss about old games. Now the legendaries are handed to you in a silver plate, and if you don't find them you can always ask in Internet.
Nothing is compared to giving room for exploration in your games and being rewarded for being curious.
>>25604542
So? It's still giving you free legendaries. The soaring mechanic isn't essential to completing the game. They could have left it the way it was in RSE.
>>25604504
>hurr doesn't count it's just an exception
Oh fuck off. It still happens now regardless and it didn't happen at all before.
>>25604564
I like how genwunner became something to throw at people you don't agree with when people dislike how Gamefreak handles things.
New games can literally have no flaws or you are a genwunner.
It's fucking sad that, it's funny how game about evolution has hardly evolved at all.
Before you bring up EV/IV I never understood the hype for them, they are not complex they are tedious version of any other JRPG stat, except in the other RPGs you can actually distribute your stats willingly without the roundabout methods. What a joke.
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>>25604007
>Jhall
IN THE TRASH IT GOES.
>>25604124
Mine ran out
>>25604633
So? Two pokemon were given at you in a silver platter. And you are butthurt about it when all the cited examples demonstrate that they still don't handle them all to you. Can you even read?
And no, the fact that they are later released in events doesn't mean anything. Those are exclusives due to abilities/moves.
>>25603987
I like it
>>25604297
Don't see the problem with injecting.
How is it cheating if you aren't gaining an unfair advantage?
>>25604124
Sadly yes. All the Gamestops in my city ran out of Mew codes. It's ridiculous to have to leave my house and go to a certain store to get a code to download a Pokemon from the Internet at home when they could just turn on mystery gift so players could just download it from home without a code. I know GameStop is desperate to get people in the stores, but come on.
And then they made Hoopa only available at McDonald's of all places.
>>25604672
>So? Two pokemon were given at you in a silver platter.
Yes. Now Pokemon can be given to you on a silver platter. When before they never did. And you are still butthurt about it when all the cited examples demonstrate that they hand some of them to you. Can you even read?
>>25604753
>what is pokemon yellow
>>25604753
>Now Pokemon can be given to you on a silver platter. When before they never did.
What are Kabuto, Omanyte, Aerodactyl, Pikachu, Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Eevee and Lapras?
>>25604084
I wish there were more secret locations that reward exploration with being able to catch legendaries, pseudos or other rare shit. Now it's all
>Hey anon you should really go check out that super duper sekrit place no one has ever heard about!!!
I'm not asking for the Fallout kind of exploration but this kind of defeats the purpose of the games.
>>25604644
shut up genwunner
>>25604488
Not disagreeing. I was only responding to the guy that said power plant wasn't a "secret" area, at least for a 9 year old in the 90s.
>>25604795
>Kabuto, Omanyte, Aerodactyl
You have to take them all the way to Cinnabar and revive them
>Pikachu, Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle
This doesn't even need me to say anything
>Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan
You've gotta battle through a bunch of karate dudes and then you can only get one, encouraging trading,
>Eevee and Lapras
These are the only two somewhat justifiable examples. However, considering that they're the only times you can get them in RB, it's safe to allow it.
I'm no genwunner, and I agree with what you're saying about how mons shouldn't be given to you for free, but the points made still stand.
>>25604795
Not legendaries. Try using context next time.
>>25604837
>These are the only two somewhat justifiable examples. However, considering that they're the only times you can get them in RB, it's safe to allow it.
just like in oras
>>25604837
>this doesn't even need me to say anything
Why? It's a justifiable example. It's a pokemon game from the first generations. You can't disregard it.
>>25604837
I'm not the guy you were arguing with, I'm pointing out that you're a jackass for acting like free Pokémon is a new thing
>This doesn't even need me to say anything
It shouldn't, because the Kanto starters are even more of free handout in Yellow than they are in XY. You don't even have to pick just one.
>they're the only times you can get them in RB
Most free Pokémon in later games are also unique or nearly unique.
>>25604854
It's the fucking starter pokémon you absolute mongloid. Of course they need to give you a Pokémon to start the game with, if they didn't you wouldnt be able to do anything.
>>25604885
Free LEGENDARY Pokemon is a new thing.
>>25604377
is that really Trump?
>>25604904
I'm expecting an
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
or even better
>That doesn't count because reasons!
>>25604644
Gen 1 had IVs and a variant of EVs, you fuck.
>>25604904
>fucking starter pokemon
>bulbasaur, charmander, squirtle
>???
I wasn't even talking about Pikachu.
>>25604633
>it didn't happen at all before
You get given a Master Ball in Gen 1 before you even finish the game. The Master Ball gives you a free legendary.
>>25604910
Not really. They did free Mew giveaways in gen 1, you just had to go to an actual event that was a lot more limited.
Since the "now" seems to be the kid from "then" but older, I'm assuming its not
>"how pokemon is nowadays with the implication that newer gens are shit"
but
"how pokefans are now compared to how they were when they were into pokemon as a kid (using stereotypes for the sake of comedy)"
>>25604401
it just means things evolved but the hype remains the same
>>25603963
OP forgot you can actually trade with friends as well for a specified Pokemon.
>>25603964
Apparently there were only 3 types back then. Ok
>>25603973
Woah, this super duper crazy secret powerplant. Yeah sure anon, but back to the point of legendaries. So tell me how did you get your mew without glitching the game. Each gen have legendaries obtainable just like bird trio and other legendaries that GF want to keep as an even Pokemon.
>>25603982
I don't get the point of this? Amount? Doesn't each gen have pokerap with pokemon from their region, then it's just the same but whith diferent Pokemon and people singing it.
>>25603993
Nothing changed.
>>25604007
That's indeed stupid.
>>25604967
Yes really. Needing to go to the actual event means you still need to work for it. And before gen 6 there were plenty of events where you need you still need to catch the legendary yourself in some special area. Now there are NONE of them.
>>25604970
it's pretty fucking obvious you're wrong, since the point of those panels is "trading used to be fun and personal, but now you just get 1 million shitmons"
>>25604059
>they have finite Mews and might run out
no they didnt
it was infinite but you had to physically go to the location, only that
>>25605007
>And before gen 6 there were plenty of events where you need you still need to catch the legendary yourself in some special area. Now there are NONE of them.
There were none of them in gen 1 either, which is the "then" in the comic.
>>25604128
all those require to redeem EVENT specific items to trigger the encounter
it's like sayung hoopa is not given out to you because after reedeming the code you get it at the pokecenter, so you can get it at the pokecenter in game it's not given out!
>>25605017
No, in gen 1 and 2, event distro carts were literally regular Pokemon games with a whole ton of Mews or whatever on them, and you had to trade one of your own Pokemon with the dude running the event. These only had so many Mews.
The Mystery Gift-type events debuted in gen 3
>>25605025
Except in gen 1 you still needed to work for every single legendary.
>>25605012
>As a kid, he could only trade locally with friends cause thats all the games allowed. As a kid, it was easier to make friends and the joint effort of evolving a pokemon was special when it was fresh to him
>As an adult, he relies on the more impersonal online functions for trading, but specifically just spams WonderTrade in the hopes he'll get something decent, rather than using GTS or trading with a friend
I mean JHall is still pretty trash but I think we jumped the gun a bit quickly with these comics.
>>25605065
The only mythical in gen 1 was Mew, which you just got traded to you at an event. Just like the mythicals in gen 6.
>>25605065
>for every single legendary
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>>25605090
Which you still need to work for because you have to physically go to the event.
We literally just went over this.
>>25605095
Just like today. You don't have a Gamestop in your basement.
>>25604542
you understand you dont NEED to have lati@s to use soaring
you can box it
you can release it
you can trade it
you can still soar
all it had to hapen was "this pokemon really likes you! Use the pokeflute to call for help and it will take you soaring in the skies!", no need to hand it out as an actual pokemon for the player
if they really want make it capturable post game because "it bonded so much with flying you around now it wants to join you!"
>>25605095
Wait. What were we arguing about anyway?
>>25605007
>before gen 6 there were plenty of events where you need you still need to catch the legendary yourself in some special area
The only time you were able to capture a wild Mew was in a Gen III event
The only time you were able to capture a wild Celebi was in a Japan-exclusive Gen II event
We have never been able to capture a wild Jirachi, Manaphy, or Meloetta
>>25605107
Would make more sense if it was summonable and not catchable.
>>25605124
To be fair though several methods of getting Manaphy involved completing a special mission in Pokémon Ranger.
And at the very least Celebi triggered a special event in HGSS.
>>25604007
kek'd
>>25605146
You're right about Manaphy, but Celebi it's just a stretch.
>it's a Gen 1 is the Best Wun and all other Gens suck episode
>>25605146
Mythicals still trigger events in the current games.
>>25605200
In gen 6 they don't trigger shit other than some dialogue and a cutscene for a super special item
I wish they still went with the Gen 3/4 route and have away items to find mythicals on the map
Just being casually handed a super strong mythical pokémon is so unsatisfying
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>>25604055
humans can be male or female too, you retard
>>25603964
>choosing ivs over evs
smart move
you can only have one and ivs are better
>>25608103
>implying that's not the fun of it
Every competitive game has an element of prediction.
>>25604619
Just dont go on the Internet and its pretty similar to g1. Played through X/Y with a newcomer to the series who didn't look up youtubes or go to fan sites. When I showed him how to find Zygarde and Mewtwo it blew his mind. How he reacted was exactly the same as my 9yr old self finding mewtwo.
And as much as people bitch about lucario lapras was pretty much the same thing. Strong pokemon with special gimmic given for free. Back then surf and fly were the special thing, like megas are today.
>>25605282
You still need to FIND the legendary in optional dungeon like areas.
>>25605282
My flatmate back in uni never used Master Balls and was a right smug cunt about it. Refused to trade it even though he'd never use it either.
The fat Irish prick.
>>25604436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZCZ7M_lifM
>>25603987
I laughed way too hard...
>>25608377
Yeah. Since Bravely Default I'm making not walking into walkthroughs and things like that an habit. I've enjoyed much more games like this.
>>25604904
they weren't starters in yellow - they were in fact, just handed to you.
>>25603963
>trading no longer exists and you are forced to use Wonder Trade
no
>>25603964
>there were only three types in gen 1
no
>things were better in gen 1 because I didn't care about being good at the game, but now that I care the game is bad
no
>>25603973
There's a point to be made that newer legendaries are handed out to you, but I feel like that's not the point that this guy is trying to make.
>bullshit rumors of how to get Mew that never existed are better than actually being able to get a mythical pokemon without being lucky and just-so-happening to be near a pokemon event
no
>gamestop running out of mew cards
I dunno why people complained about it, but they had a ton of those cards at my gamestop.
>>25603982
I don't understand the point this is trying to make
>the pokerap actually adds value to the game
no
>more pokemon is bad
no
>>25603993
>genwunner isn't pessimistic about Sun and Moon
I'm impressed.
>>25604007
>hurr durr sexy pokemon xD so funny
At least it isn't a gen 1 bias, but the joke is still shit.
>>25609495
he most likely assumed the other guy meant all the possible starters from all three games that generation.
>>25605198
>it's a Gen 1 is literal satan spawn and the newer gens can do no wrong episode
>>25603964
Why I've given up battling friends since they got caught up in the whole competitive gaming, and I can't be bothered spending so much time and effort into it. It was much simpler back in the Gameboy days.
>>25603987
i improved it
>>25610825
The autism is real
>>25604800
Terminus Cave was kinda subtle with it. The only source of info about it was from the Town Map description of how it was abandoned due to a monster living inside of it, not to mention the fact that you also had to complete the game to reach Zygarde.
This was neat, in my opinion because not much was mentioned about it and when you did come across Zygarde, it felt worthwhile.
>>25610825
Dude, make several different posts so that you appear to be different people posting. This massive wall of replies just gives a sense of autism.
>>25611912
>implying autism is bad
you're an autcist, aren't you?
>>25604142
how fucking dense do you have to be to miss the point so badly
obviously, for instance, he doesnt think that types were the height of strategy before, its just a comparison of how he thought of it as a little kid vs an adult
this entire thread is full of idiots
>>25603973
It takes a special kind of idiot to claim that the newer games are too hand-holdy and still be fucking wrong
>>25608103
>tfw you triple-predict your opponent and their mon is left dead in the water
Literally why I play comp.
