So how come a death sentence like 4x stealth rock couldn't stop this thing?
>>25579418
It is too brave
Tfw you don't use meme pebbles. This shit bird is hard to deal with.
>>25579418
The utility it brings is worth playing against rocks for
It has a top 5 ability with a strong attack, it's already fast, great attacking types and has a very strong move to abuse making it the perfect revenge killer
>>25579418
Second Strongest Priority in the game
while also not being tied to the opposing pokemon having to attack.
explain the bravest bird meme
I like this things design but don't know much
>>25579514
It can spam gale wings brave bird
>>25579523
is that why mega fug is so scary too?
>>25579523
>spam
>will likely die if it doesn't kill with one shot
>will die anyway from recoil
>>25579418
Roost
>>25579418
Because it has an 180 power priority move.
????
>>25579418
I was really looking forward to him when XY were announced. Falcons are my favorite animal, and fire and flying are two of my favorite types, sneaky pebbles be damned. It was bittersweet that he turned out to be such a badass. I love that he's actually viable competitively, but wish he didn't carry the Smogonbird stigma.
>>25579536
No, Mega Fug is scary because it has Mega Kangaskhan's bulk, Starmie's speed, Deoxys-A's offenses, Extreme Speed, and two viable ways to boost its attack. Oh, and it's a fucking Flying-type that doesn't have a Flying-type's weaknesses with a Flying-type Close Combat clone. AND it can hold an item.
>there are people mad that an early route bird is one of the strongest pokemon in the game
>they are mad it ditched the flying/normal typing
>they are cowards
>>25579418
It usually is a lead in most battles preventing stealth rock from killing it, if you have stealth rock on the field it doesng guarantee you will kill it because it can still priority brave bird the shit out of you and if your the talonflame is choice banded consider your mon dead..
Talonflame has the most broken thing in the game a 120 BP priority move.
>>25579566
>mega
>holding item
>>25579581
Obviously you don't understand mega fug
>>25579581
That's why Fug is such bullshit. A Life Orb Dragon Ascent from a Mega Fug is like a Return from Aerilate Parental Bond Mega Salamence.
>>25579581
>not playing ORAS
>>25579581
this is probably the most broken thing about Mega Fug actually. It doesn't need an item slot filled to go Mega
>>25579428
It's also too fast.
>>25579489
>second strongest
What's the first then?
>>25579644
Yveltal's Dark Aura Sucker Punch.
>>25579644
Yveltal's Sucker Punch.
Is Primal Groudon banned to AG yet? He and Rayray need company from the inevitable Pokeball Z power creep mons in S&M.
Steel/Fairy Magiana with Levitate and Heatproof hybrid plus Shift Gear and Steel type black sludge nanomachines when?
>>25579651
>>25579659
Wait, how is this stronger than STAB Brave Bird? How big of a boost does Dark Aura give?
>>25579748
Free Life Orb for dark moves
>>25579736
Kyogore and xerneas are just as bad I think
>>25579748
Dark Aura boosts Dark-type moves by a third, so you're looking at 160 BP for Yveltal's STAB Sucker Punch. Keep in mind that Yveltal's base Attack stat is 131, compared to Talonflame's paltry base 81 score.
>252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manaphy: 157-186 (46 - 54.5%) -- 54.3% chance to 2HKO
>252+ Atk Dark Aura Yveltal Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manaphy: 192-226 (56.3 - 66.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>25579418
>search defog
>0 results
This is like, half of the answer.
It wouldn't be nearly as dependable and spammable in gen V.
>>25579916
It's omnipresent defog or no defog. I haven't even seen defog in my last 20 matches and this bird was in use over half the time
>>25579926
Even if so, defog means SR aren't as effective as they previously used to be.
>>25579789
>not poultry base 81 score.
one job
Will O Wisp and priority Roost makes it really difficult to deal with if you don't have Heatran or Rotom Wash on your team.
>>25579566
>because it has Mega Kangaskhan's bulk
But it doesnt
It will literally die from any Dragon or Fairy move
>>25579443
>has trouble with bravest bird
>doesn't use spooky washingmachine
It's like you want to lose
>>25579769
>+2 Fairy Aura Moonblast on bullet speed with good bulk
X Deer is delicious.
>>25579644
Third Strongest
Arceus' Extreme Speed comes off of 120 Base Power, Yveltal's Sucker Punch comes off of 131 Base Power with Dark Aura.
>>25579566
>mega fug is so balanced that smogon banned it from Uber
That's right he is banned from the "we put everything banned" tier
>>25579570
>there are people mad that an early route bird is one of the strongest pokemon in the game
Then why is Staraptor not getting any flack?
>>25579418
>>25579418
You just need bigger rocks. Like max HP Snorlax. One Brave Bird and this thing loses 95% HP from recoil.
>>25581858
Its also capable of running acrobatics pretty reliably.
>>25580500
>>has trouble with bravest bird
>>doesn't use spooky washingmachine
>It's like you want to lose
>using le smogonmachine instead of physically defensive Volcarona to counter not only smogonbird but also Mega Aura Doge
>it's like you don't even want to be super creative and shit
Do you even VGC singles bruh?
>>25579570
I'm mad that such a terribly designed, and named, pokemon is one of the strongest pokemon in the game.
>>25582134
physically defensiv volcarona
>a talonflame counter
>>25582192
>doubting the word of Verlisify
Did you even take a look at the pic?
>>25582134
>damn this guy makes a good argument
>im just gonna say he's wrong without backing it up and then post an image of his comment on twitter and make fun of him there
>>25582180
>terribly designed
>my mom's falcon
You hate falcons? It is just a falcon. That's it.
>>25582386
it's a falcon with flame accents
if that's not cool i dont know what is
>>25582373
>admitting your wrong
>ever
>>25579566
/r/equesting Mega Lucario copypasta
>>25582180
>terribly named
Nigger wat? That name is spontaneous high five tier rad.
>>25579489
>>25579651
>>25580917
Pretty sure M-Absol's Sucker Punch is also stronger (150 base attack).
>>25579418
>people always complaing that sneaky pebbles are OP
>every Generation's metagame since their inclusion is dominated, and in some cases broken, by Pokemon weak to them such as Salamence, Talonflame, Gyarados, Charizard, etc
but no, they must be overpowered because they make a few shitmons even less usable
>>25582594
but muh charizard
>yfw sun and moon bring back gems
>>25579418
You could say the same for Volcorona
>>25582617
but how wild is he?
>>25580500
>water/electric
>spooky
>>25582427
4u
>>25582386
>>25582437
Are you faggots serious
