>Gym leaders only having a max of 3 Pokemon
>Rivals heal your Pokemon
>Legendary Pokemon wanting to be captured
>Player characters become bigger and bigger Mary Sue's each generation
When will it end?
>rivals are becoming bigger semen slurpers than the whole party in Persona 4
WHEN WILL THIS FUCKING MEME RIGHT HERE END
>>25476423
Well, considering it's happened two generations in a row, probably never.
>mandatory unskippable Liat@s stealing 30 minutes of your life
>>25476423
at least you can kill the legendary
>>25476434
I blame Gen III for its "lol, now this forced tutorial kid you barely knew for two minutes is the rival now!"
Barry, Bianca and Cheren were more bearable for having character arcs irrelevant to the protagonist. It was from Hugh onward that the rivals became garbage
>>25476423
>G VII
>Last four gyms have 4-6 pokemon
>Rival hates you for taking the starter they wanted
>Legendary pokemon unobtainable until post E4
>>25476423
>Legendary Pokemon wanting to be captured
Better than giving them a catch rate so low that you must throw the equivalent of the PIB of a small country in pokeball to catch them. This was just fake difficulty.
>>25476423
>Player characters become bigger and bigger Mary Sue's each generation
What do you mean?
>>25476460
Not unless it's a story legendary.
post yfw every gen 7 elite four member full heals you and the gen 7 champion only has 5 mons and some are prevos
>>25476577
Stuff like ten-year-olds singlehandedly overthrowing the mafia, probably.
>>25476734
Congratulations you just summed up pokemon red and blue.
>>25476577
>>25476577
Mary Sues are characters that have no flaws whatsoever
>>25476669
>mfw each elite 4 battle is a 6 mon team assembled like a comp team, so healing is vital
>mfw the champion only has 5 mons, because you fight and catch their legendary beforehand. It's boxed before the fight naturally, and the champion uses impossibly powerful mons, including one with evolite
>>25476760
That's the joke
>>25476423
Eh, I don't think Mary Sue is the right word. I just hate the fact everyone fucking loves you in X and Y.
I liked Cynthia because I actually had trouble with her team. The variety of her Pokemon made it difficult to beat her compared to many other Champions, who tend to use a specific type a bunch.
>>25476798
It's kind of hard to have character flaws when you're a literal nothing character who only serves as the player's avatar.
I don't think you're playing the right video game, or genre for that matter, if you want the main protagonist too be well written... or written at all.
I always thought it was to show bonds between trainer and pokemon. Like how pokemon amie sometimes let's your pokemon dodge and shake off status effects and how not every rival wants to be a trainer to give them a little more depth.
>New option to start a game in Challenge Mode
>Switch mode is permanently "Set"
>All gyms have 6 pokemon
>Potions, revives and similar "in-battle backpack restoratives" are not permitted for use by either side during official league matches against Gym Leaders, Elite 4 or Champion in order to make it as equitable as possible.
>>25476423
>>Gym leaders only having a max of 3 Pokemon
So? Surely you don't believe that having more Pokemon automatically makes it more difficult? Because all the regions up to Sinnoh, except Platinum Sinnoh, prove you wrong.
>>25476465
Nah, Wally was legit only because this time we were the dicks.
>>25479934
That's all good except the last one. That's just stupid.
>>25479985
What, you don't like facing an opponent on a level playing field?
It never made sense to me that you could just continue to spray your pokemon with Potions in the middle of a gym battle and the gym leader would ever be like "oh yeah sure that's totally fair".
Potions turn all battles of even vaguely similar levels into pure attrition.
>>25480009
>>25479934
Just make healing items unusable in battle full-stop unless it's a held item, for Challenge Mode at least.
Potions and the like can be applied outside of battle in this situation.
>>25479985
It's called Challenge Mode for a reason, anon.
>>25476577
>hey kid heres this special snowflake evolution technique no one else in the world but the leaegue champion and evil villain can use
>also heres a latias/latios with a megastone
>>25480028
Not any worse than the first game
>hey kid this evil team is trying to conquer the region and obtain a super important item
>oh you beat them now they will be unable to get the item yay
>hihihi here have the item because you're : )
>>25476465
Gen III is also the gen they started writing legendaries into the story forcing you to battle/capture them instead of being optional
>>25476423
just play neo x/y or rutile ruby/sinking sapphire, geek
>>25480054
I could have sworn you had to fight suicune in crystal
>>25480043
Red/Blue
>you're an extremely talented pokemon trainer
Gen 5
>you're an extremely talented pokemon trainer and these legendaries sense how good of a trainer you are and want to be in your party also you have an ancient evolution technique no one else knows about
>>25480106
Still doesn't make part of the plot completely pointless like RB does.
>>25476465
barry is best rival
>>25480106
>ancient evolution technique no one else knows about
I don't remember something like that in Gen 5?
>>25480106
>Gen V
>Ancient evolution technique
wat
>>25476577
Everything is given to them, ledgendary pokemon are just handed over, random people just give you all hms and other handy items as progress just because you walked past them, your friends always point you in the right direction and give you nothing but praise.
I wish for once pokemon would just drop you in the world as a nobody and let you work your way to the top.
>>25479976
I never thought of it that way but yeah, we were the guys who were smug and knew he could never beat us.
The only difference is we were a rival that couldn't be beaten.
>>25480015
>>25480009
They should have a limit to the amount you can use, how about that?
I think getting rid of them is silly, just limit it to one heal, revive and status restore per battle, unless it's a held item.
>>25480216
All of those apply to all gens except the last 2 points.
>>25480214
>>25480209
I may be retarded but at least I'm not pedantic
>>25476423
>rivals heal your Pokemon
This is a godsend in when doing a nuzlocke of difficulty hacks though. I would get rekt in Star Sapphire if it wasn't for this.
>unskippable hate-fuck scene with your rival
What happened to gamefreak
>>25476423
When Game Freak grows a pair and decides to stop pandering to casuals/very very young children who give up at the first sign of difficulty in a video game.
>>25476500
>Pokemon catching being difficult
Its More like how fucking bad do you want it
>>25476470
>the NPCs call you a shit trainer and note how poorly you treat your mons
>you're not 'the chosen one' according to the plot
>>25480339
This will never happen. I have this nasty feeling that SuMo will be even worse when it comes to pandering and easy breezing. Challenge mode won't be there and everyone loves you. Free legendaries and megastuff all over the place. Plus the Poké-ambulance heals your shit on demand, even in the middle of the Victory Road that has three trainers and a half-assed rival battle.
>>25476901
Malva
>>25480216
>ledgendary pokemon are just handed over
ONE SINGLE LEGENDARY
Go ahead and tell me that these fucking Regis, Johto beasts, Kyogre, and Deoxys were handed to me. I fucking dare you.
>>25481949
>Lati@s being given tyo you in a rushed cutscene with no repercursions
I'm still mad as fuck.
>>25476423
How can the MCs be Mary Sues? They don't even talk. They're just avatars.
>>25480028
>>hey kid heres this special snowflake evolution technique no one else in the world but the leaegue champion and evil villain can use
>I didn't refight the E4
>>25481949
Admittedly, giving a roaming Pokemon away kind of defeats the entire point.
>First Gym has 1 Pokemon
>Second Gym has 2
>Etc, etc until the Sixth Gym, and from then on every Gym has a full team of 6
>Rival follows a similar pattern with only having their starter and slowly growing their team
>Team Whatever bosses have a full team
>Late game trainers have a full team
>Elite 4 all have a full team
>Champion has a full team
>>25480081
Suicune was entirely optional considering that Bell Tower is out of the way of your journey
Gen III was the Gen that started forcing the legendary to be relevant the story
>>25480054
>>25482115
You're retarded. You were forced in crystal. Shut the fuck up.
>>25476906
DP Cynthia is probably the hardest elite 4 champion so far.
>>25482480
>Forced in Crystal
>Already in Blackthorn and I completely skipped over the whole Team Rocket debacle in Goldenrod as if it didn't matter
Totally forced
>>25480202
More cute Barry, NOW
>>25476500
Nigger, you can catch any legend with less than 10 ultraballs if you know what you're doing.
>>25482550
>Getting into the blackthorn gym without dealing with team rocket
good luck, friendo
>>25481949
Kyogre Groudon and Rayquayquay have boosted catch rates, basically giving them to you. Cry some more faggot.
>>25480530
But I don't want to treat my mons like shit
And never wanted to be a chosen one which to my knowlege has never been a thing in pokemon. Its all about humble beginings, putting up with a cunt rival and working your way to badassness
>>25482824
>Kyogre Groudon and Rayquayquay have boosted catch rates
I fucking ran out of Ultra balls trying to catch Kyogre. I had to use the Master Ball I found in the hideout.
>>25482824
>boosted catch rate
>handed over
Two different concepts. It's up to you to catch them.
