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>half normal mons Explain, for what purpose
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>half normal mons

Explain, for what purpose
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>pyROAR
>heliolisk
Placeholders for Sound and Light type, friend. :^)
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>no intimidate
That's the bigger one
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>moxie on a special attacker that doesn't even learn flare blitz

for what purpose
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Normal type is basically Mammal type + Misc
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Ghost immunity perhaps
STAB on common moves/HMs for in game purposes
To make normal type teams more interesting
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>>25372713
Normal STAB
Ghost immunity
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>>25372713
Ghost immunity.
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>>25372713
Based on their design I guess they're saying only part of them (the mane) is "elemental" while the rest of them is mundane. For Girafarig and Azuril it'd be their tails and for Heliolisk it'd be the solar panel frills.

Normal/Flying types are mundane Pokemon that just happen to fly, and Diggersby is the Ground equivalent to that.
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>Stab on Normal moves
>Immunity to Ghost types
>Weak to Fighting

Seems like a good trade to be honest.

Also special normal types exist solely as a great excuse to use hyper beam.
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Male Pyroar's mane is meant to look like the five-pointed kanji for "great" or "large", which is used in Japanese bonfire ceremonies.

Fire Blast gets its look from the same thing.

Pyroar does not learn Fire Blast by levelup.
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>>25373194
Also, I wonder whether a work-in-progress name for Pyroar might've been Pyroyal. I think I like Pyroar better but Pyroyal makes sense.
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>>25373194
FUCKING GAME FREAK
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>>25372766
Entrainment shenanigans
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>>25372713
>no intimidate
>normal type
>not dark type
>special attacker lion

What is right with this pokemon?
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because they literally look like my mom's normal lion
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>>25373194
wow it's really like I'm reading Bulbapedoa
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>>25373366
We'll I'd fug the female
but yeah normal with elemental seems silly
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So it can use Hyper Voice well, lions roar like a motherfucker.
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>>25373476
What's with vp's grudge against Bulbapedia?
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normal = beast
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>always like normal times
>never played gen 6 simply because been more into table top games and school
>learn about ptu
>want to make a normal specialist cuz persian my nigga
>learn fairy came and swept up some of the best of the best, including clafairy
>take a little solice in some of these awkard half normals
>/vp/ says they are shit

But then again /vp/ says anything is shit.
At least I can get a tediursa and snorlaxes
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Because it is fucking awesome.

I love half/normal pokemon. Every single one.
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>>25373366
Everything. I discovered this pokemon yesterday and I love it. It has a signature move, it has a new and unique typing, it has a fairly straight-forward design and a cute little stage 1.
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>>25373522
autism
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>>25372749
This. Also why Jigglypuff line is still part Normal.

Sound/Light will likely never become types, but they can be represented through Normal.
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>>25373732
>Also why Jigglypuff line is still part Normal.
To be forever inferior to Clafairy line
but It might be to make it more of the "HP" wall of the two, as normal types are more associated with HP
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Normal monos desu
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>MUH MANTICORE
T-there's still the mega? Right?
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>>25373732
>>25373755
I liked that they kept Jiggly part normal because in my mind, I loved how all puffy pink things of no determinate origin were normal types in the original gens.

Clefairy being Fairy and not normal does fuck up Whitney though. Her gym is literally shaped like a Clefairy, but Miltank is her signature pokemon and it is just normal.
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>>25372713
Aegislash check
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>>25372713
hyper voice stab i think
same with jigglypuff
desu i don't mind
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>>25373800
>Clefairy being Fairy and not normal does fuck up Whitney though. Her gym is literally shaped like a Clefairy, but Miltank is her signature pokemon and it is just normal.

Was also bitter sweet when grumpbull was taken by the fairies, yeah sure he's better now, but still its a lost for the Normies
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They are the only ones who resist both Ghost and Fairy.
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>>25373800
>I loved how all puffy pink things of no determinate origin were normal types in the original gens.
>now all normiefags get are the most mundane pokemon (albeit some qt ones) and the shit ones on the first routes, with the occasional hp tank or slash guy on the side
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>>25373800
I like how it all differentiates the puffy pink things from Gen I...

Jigglypuff line: Normal/Fairy
Clefairy line: Fairy
Chansey line: Normal
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>>25373826
I do like the idea behind Fairy and a lot of their moves seem pretty clever and interesting in terms of what they represent in the fluff. Just pokemon doing cute and mischievous things.


I just really liked Normal pokemon. Sure, it was just a catch-all, but they did have surprisingly strong identity in a strange way.
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Wait, what the fuck? Why was Azurill normal?
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>>25373923
But normal's thing was being qt!
It was the central conceit of the only (and probably last) normal gym
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>>25373991
Well, now it is being some kind of beast, I guess. Look at this thing, it is adorable! Also, people hated this gen? I'm pretty pleased with all the designs I've seen so far. Normal/Grass (cool typing), unique little gimmick with forms AND a fairly underrepresented animal (sorry, Stantler). That's pretty great.

I am a bit sad about losing shit like Charm and Sweet Kiss. But Fairy being an official type means that there will be much more cute moves, as they have to make up some movesets for pure Fairy pokemon.

Also, why the fuck is Metronome still a normal move? It is fucking bizarre moon magic.
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>>25373701

Well that and the whole bulbapedo thing.
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>>25374068
So an idea for a normie gym
Circus theme
Pyroars and Persians in cages, dancing Ursurings and Snorlaxes, slaking/apom line for monkeys, etc
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>>25374121
Amazing. Fund it.

Ambipom is great. Technician is such a cool idea.
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>>25374121

I'd rather they finally give us a dark gym first

Though I like your theming
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>>25374121
>no elephant normal type
Donphant is pretty baller but how is it ground
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>>25372713
Because Gen VIII will finally introduce Sound type and a good bunch of mons, including Pyroar, will be retconed into it.
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>>25374255
>sound type
>hey normie fags, still happy with what you have?>well say goodbye to Whismur line and chattot faggot, AND the other half of jigglypuff
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>>25373970
In RS, they just copypasted data from Cleffa, including the 75% female trait. Now it's just being kept for the same reasons as Nidorina/Nidoqueen's infertility.
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They should have different stats depending on gender. I came up with:

Old stats
86/68/72/109/66/106 BST--507

New Fem stats
86/78/62/119/56/116 BST--517

New Male stats
86/119/82/68/76/86 BST--517
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>>25372713
they're brown
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>>25374572
>faster females
Intresting but it would make me have to think carefully about what gender I'd want and I just want to fug the female one
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>>25374572
But males should be the special attackers in this instance.
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>>25374572
Female lions hunt, they should have the physical stats. Male lions don't hunt, therefore they should have the special stats.
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>>25374624
Fem Pyroar just looks more aerodynamic.

>>25374572
On second thought though, I think I made male Pyroar's too defense-heavy. What if Fem Pyroar's stats stayed in the new way;

86/78/62/119/56/116 BST--517

but male Pyroar was instead;
86/129/72/58/66/106 BST--517

>>25374695
>>25374732
I understand where you two are coming from. Their attack stats could switch yeah, but to me it just "feels right" like this.
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>>25374071
explain
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>>25373194
>HELIOlisk
>helio means sun
>gets solar power as an ability
>heavily associated with the sun
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>doesn't learn solar beam
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>>25374918
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>>25374933
So what? It has Grass Knot, which does its job just fine. Besides, if you're running Dry Skin then a Heliolisk has no place on a sun team.
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>>25374981
It makes no sense thematically though.
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>>25374933
are you serious
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>>25374933
It also doesn't learn sunny day either.
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>>25374981
>heliolisk used grass knot on manaphy
>it does shit for damage
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>>25372795
Sounds good. on paper
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>>25373732
Because it is also a balloon besides being a fairy
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>>25374137
Why not both in one. Aka Shadini's circus
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>>25373732
sound type is never gonna be a thing you fucking moron
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>>25375403
>They will never add Fairy type you idiot!!!
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>>25375497
I've never said that
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>>25375403
if they added sound type, normal may as well become "suck" type
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>>25374933
Well, I faced a bunch of Kyogre already and Grass Knot ever did the job
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>>25372713
because autism and filling gaps in the type chart, even though no one wanted those gaps filled and they make zero difference
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>>25373194
No it doesn't you halfwit. It's the kanji for FIRE(火) you know, because it's a FIRE type?
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why is mega punch and mega kick normal type?
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>>25375403
When did anon say that they were, you fucking autist?

For all intents and purposes, Sound is pretty much represented in games as Normal (see Jigglypuff chain, Pyroar chain, Exploud chain, etc.)
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>>25374068
I liked Deerling, but sadly it had no gender distinctions a female buck doesn't make sense and the season gimmick was instantly abandoned in the next gen
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>>25376088
Probably have a different name in Japan.
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>>25377148
Fuck, really? Sons of bitches. Like how they removed Night and Day in RSE? They'll bring it back hopefully.
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