>gen 6.5 was neither proven or disproved
>gen 7 was neither proven or disproved
Why are you so fucking retarded, anon?
>>25339618
Press release literally says it's a new gen
Direct has only shown the first core games on the timeline and not the remakes or third versions when leading up to SM reveal
It's gen 7, as much as it pains me to say it
>>25339695
>literally
>>25339695
Source?
>>25339618
>new Pokemon
>"new world"
>"new era"
>Different Pokebank compatibility than XYORAS
Dude, Gen VII has been pretty much proven.
>>25339781
>>"new world"
>>"new era"
they say these things in every fucking game whether its in the same generation or not
>>25339821
Did they say that for Platinum? BW2? Maybe, but I don't remember them doing so. And there are still the other two points, which are sufficient evidence on their own.
>>25339872
yeah they called rotom forms and giratina origin a "new pokemon" too
>>25339618
Alright. what the fuck is "gen 6.5", why have people been saying this?
>all those denialfags
>>25339618
They will probably have a new generation and have you travel to Kalos to fix this Zygarde shit. They won't just leave them and make him the next GS ballwould they?!.>>25339618
>>25339719
>>25339743
http://pokemon.gamespress.com/release.asp?i=1942
>>25339781
>>Different Pokebank compatibility than XYORAS
What? No. It's compatible.
Also the new era/world shit doesn't mean anything. Don't you guys know what marketing is? They said ORAS was also a new world for fuck's sake
>>25340271
The RBY stuff can only go to SM, not XYORAS. At best it will be one way stuff, like RBY was to GSC, but you can't call that the same generation.
>>25339618
The woodpecker thing is a new Pokémon, they've never added new Pokémon mid-gen, SM is gen VII, stop it already.
>>25340021
Same for Megas, and they said "new world" for OR/AS.
The shit the official Pokemon site says is always so vague and weird that I'm taking everything with a grain of salt until someone outright says "It's Gen 6/7"
>>25339618
Sun/Moon is 6.5 and 7 like Sliver/Gold is 1.5 and 2 at the same time
Fucking die you baiting faggot.
Why would anyone think it's 6.5? After three years of no Z, Z isn't happening. Sequels aren't happening. Kalos is over.
Sun/Moon has no similarity to X/Y. Pokemon has always stuck to a theme, it would be bizarre for these games to end up as a shitty piggy back off X/Y.
"New world." "New adventure." Concept art of clearly new areas.
Don't be fucking retarded. It would be a compete misstep if this was a slightly expanded kalos with a sprinkling of extra pokemon/megas.
>>25340036
It's gen 6...but with a new region and new pokemon!
Get it?
I sure don't.
>>25340388
>new region
Thought people were just gunning for the Southern Kalos idea.
>>25340388
XY only has less than 80 pokémon.
Gen 6 should have more.
>>25339781
>Different Pokebank compatibility than XYORAS
To be fair I wouldn't read too much into this. If they decided to put RBY on eShop after ORAS was released, than its only natural that the latter won't recognize the games it wasn't meant to work with.
>>25340315
>until someone outright says "It's Gen 6/7"
The generational distinction is a fan terminology though, used to simplify the different periods of Pokemon releases.
This shit is starting to get dumber that /m/'s "Neo-Heisei" bullshit when talking about Kamen Rider.
>>25340481
Yeah it should. So should gen 2 and 4.
It didnt. Blame whatever you want, amie, megas, etc.
We are finally out of the shithole that is gen 6 and the fact that people want to GO BACK IN is absurd.
>>25339618
Shitposting is fun.
>>25339618
consider the fact that the titles have nothing to do with X and Y or any past games. also consider that in the past, a new unique group of titles meant new gen. In addition, we're getting a new bird, and new birds go along with other new Pokémon. Based on that it is safe to assume this is "gen 7."
Regardless we know if its Gen 7 then its going to be bad since that means they rushed it.
>>25339821
just. stop
>>25340388
Imagine XY, but takes place [mostly] in a different region with new Pokemon. This is the same region strange souvenir dude is talking about.
But the game has the exact same graphics as XY with no new core mechanics whatsoever and you can battle with XY/ORAS players as long as you don't use incompatible things, just like the new megas in ORAS.
There, you have gen 6.5. It's not gen 7 because it's still compatible with XY and ORAS but .5 because it introduces new Pokemon.
>>25340666
nah, they probably had a whole team working on design since X and Y were finished. another team handled ORAS
>>25340723
new pokemon = new gen
>Kalos starters
>>25340697
no you frog
>>25340764
so i guess this should be gen 8 then because oras was gen 7 amirite?
>>25340764
New engine that can't battle and trade with prior games = new gen.
That's a more reliable definition than just "new Pokemon." Take an imaginary scenario where they released Z, but it had a SINGLE new Pokemon. Would you really call it gen 7? That doesn't sound right to me. The consequence isn't any different from ORAS introducing incompatible megas.
>>25340796
There were no new Pokémon you fucking retard. Megas don't count because they're formes.
>>25340810
New engine argument doesn't work because Gen V uses the Gen IV engine with some modifications. It's still the Gen IV engine so you're incorrect in saying a new engine defines a generation
>>25340810
>The consequence isn't any different from ORAS introducing incompatible megas.
You retards need to shut the fuck up about this. A new forme can be changed back but a new Pokémon can't communicate at all, so there's a difference in severity. If you can't grasp this simple concept then you're a giant fucking retard
>R/G/B/Y pokebank only works with new editions
>people still in denial of gen 7
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>>25339695
>next era =/= new generation.
Stop being retarded, please.
just keep adding these to the collection of screenshots full of people in denial.
>>25339618
>Using Pokémon Bank, you'll be able to transfer Pokémon you've caught in the Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console versions of Pokémon Red, Pokémon Blue, and Pokémon Yellow into your copy of Pokémon Sun or Pokémon Moon. Pokémon from Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, and Pokémon Y can also be brought into Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon in the same way.
Why would they need to specify that if SM were the black and white 2 to XY?
I find it kind of dumb that it seems like Kalos is being left half done, but so far it's pretty safe to assume it's gen 7 until outright stated.
>>25341248
UK press release clearly says "new generation" though
Trust me, I want this to be gen 6 or even gen 6,5 but there is no point in denying this is a new gen. It will probably be rushed as hell seeing as they didn't have as little as a trailer or a box art ready but hey, /vp/ is le back, muh hype is real and so on, am rite?
>>25339618
How do I get ripped like this
>>25341353
Because they didn't plan to release RBY on the eShop back when ORAS was getting released. That, or gen 7 is getting the first huge stat overhaul since gen 3 that makes Pokemon transferred from RBY to Bank somehow not compatibile with gen 6.
>>25339618
How exactly would one tell the difference between a new "Generation" and the addition to the previous generation? Don't they try to insert the new mons in such a way that it feels natural?
>>25340697
dumb frogposter
>>25340810
>Take an imaginary scenario where they released Z, but it had a SINGLE new Pokemon. Would you really call it gen 7? That doesn't sound right to me.
The "generation" distinction is all about convenience. It's a convenient term to have when discussing different periods/era of Pokemon.
If only a single new Pokemon were introduced, it'd just be more convenient to refer to that Pokemon by name including the other mechanical associations that came along in the games with that Pokemon's introduction.
If there were only 10 new Pokemon, and people found it more convenient to refer to these 10 by calling them "Gen 7" Pokemon, there isn't anything wrong with that.
We could even have discussions using Gen I, Gen II, Gen III, Gen IV, Gen V, Gen VI, The Fabulous Ten, and Gen VIII instead.
It's just convenience.
>>25339821
>"New era"
Pokemon GO its visionary!
>>25340810
>New engine that can't battle and trade with prior games = new gen
So GSC is gen 1, since you can still do those things
RSE is gen 2, along with FRLG
DPPt is gen 3, along with HGSS
BW is gen 3.5, along with BW2 because it uses the same engine but you cant trade or battle
XY and ORAS are gen 4
