>There are people who think GF will abandon Kalos and jump straight to Gen VII
>While this exists
>>25304865
oh you are right!
because gamefreak has NEVER, i mean FUCKING NEVER skipped an event item
>>25304870
The strange souvenir isn't an event item.
>>25304882
and its not going to be anything either
>>25304865
Except you are forgetting a very real possibility:
>it's fucking nothing
>>25304893
Because they would totally put in the time and effort to add in a new item for absolutely no reason.
There's also the ghost girl.
What else?
>>25304870
To be fair, the Arceus event had some retarded activation. How anyone would know what to do without a guide is beyond me.
>>25304895
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lock_Capsule
>>25304911
Wasn't there a message behind the sign in the station?
And the locked power plant areas.
>>25304865
Cool headcanon, bro.
>>25304919
What about it?
It's not exactly relevant to this conversation.
>>25304895
They had to write, code, and randomize the npc's location at the hotels. This is obviously for something
>>25304928
Nice cherry picking.
>>25304929
no its not and anons here have showed clear examples of dropped items by gamefreak so its not the first time
>>25304919
One of those two can actually be obtained in the game. The other can't. Let's guess which one is which, shall we?
>>25304921
The Power plant leads to the Azoth Kingdom
>>25304929
>obviously for something
Someone has never heard of easter eggs, huh?
>>25304929
>>25304950
Anon, it's okay to desperately want something, but you're really grasping at straws.
>>25304919
At least we knew that that did, and its contents were given to the player in the same generation.
>>25304936
What cherrypicking?
You're the one picking something out that's irrelevant to the matter at hand.
>>25304865
The guy did say he wasn't from any of the 6 gens. I saw this as a teaser as to where the next region will be based off of and nothing more.
>>25304959
AND MEW IS UNDER THE TRUCK AM I RITEE???'
Gen 7 will be about this thing my uncle told me he works for Bungie
>>25304965
I don't even give a fuck about the souvenir, man. I'm just pointing out that these two cases are nonequivalent. Same with the flute, honestly. Strange Souvenir is the only of the three items brought up so far that has a somewhat complicated in-game event to obtain. I'm not saying it'll be used, but it's obviously had enough effort put into it to be more than a useless Easter egg.
>>25304965
The first point isn't grasping. X/Y was already rushed as hell, so there's no way they'd add in something like that with no purpose. Even stuff like the Old Gateau actually does something.
>>25304962
>>25304970
The power plant being the location of Azoth has been a meme amongst the 'deepest lore' fags for a while
>>25304986
>rushed games
>in charge of not having unused content in their code that are just unused forever
>>25305004
Except this is obviously used content.
Unlike Arceus' flute
>>25304865
What is Godstone
>>25305057
Came here to post this
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_2_and_White_2
Could be from a region from a spin-off
>Orre
>Fiore
>Almia
>Oblivia
>>25304865
Don't underestimate GameFreak's potential to disappoint us.
>>25305092
>spin offs
>canon to the main games
>>25305269
you can have pokemon from orre.
manaphy is from all three ranger regoins.
As canon as it gets without a direct mention.
>>25305291
So, they aren't canon then.
Did anyone else get a bit pissed that F-00 has a shiny sprite but wasn't an actual Gen 6 Pokemon?
>>25304967
It's not irrelevant you fucking retard. It's an item put in that went unused. It supports the point that the Strange Souvenir won't be used for anything. You're the only cherrypicking by calling it irrelevant.
>>25304865
They're not going to have a Gen 6.5 because it will break compatibility more than formes would. If they make another Kalos game it won't have Magearna since it's a brand new Pokémon. Game Freak has never added a new Pokémon into a current Generation gane and they're not going to start now.
>>25307028
>what is lucario
>>25307028
The compatibility argument didn't work against megas in ORAS, and it won't work with full new Pokemon in Z.
>>25307028
senpai, pls, you keep saying 'the only' because of your fat sausage fingers jamming out bad on the autocorrect, stop being a jerk off and abandon thread, you've already drilled the holes in the belly of the boat and your weight is pulling us down faster, master
>>25305057
>>25305090
Pure speculation here, but it could be a precursor / leftover of the prototype / beta stage of megastones? GF may have put the item in the game to test the idea of boosted in-battle evo's with god-like powers, then put it on the backbench for further development and another set of games
>>25307070
Please.
All I want in life right now is for you to re-read the situation and realise how fucking retarded you look.
>>25307070
Not actually added in a main series game.
>>25307071
Except it does work since Megas are formes. New Pokémon won't be able to be viewed at all by other Gen VI.
>>25307072
I'm not the same anon as the first person who said you're cherry picking. Also nice reasoning, "you're wrong because you have a typo".
>>25307120
>Except it does work since Megas are formes
That unlike every other forme before, doesn't work with battles with the previous version.
On top of that there are items and abilities that aren't in XY that break compatibility.
>>25307123
New formes have never worked with older games dumbass. It's always told you the Pokémon can't be used. New items don't count because they have to do with the formes.
>>25307137
>New formes have never worked with older games dumbass
Yes they have dumbass. It's just that the older game doesn't show the sprite. But they still work if you're playing against someone with an older version and they keep the type/stat differences. 6th gen is the first time they stopped caring about compatibility period.
>>25307141
A new Pokémon is still not the same as a new forme. This point remains valid.
>>25304993
I personally think, if Z comes out, all the "broken down" and "closed" trains you find will lead to the new areas.
Did we ever get an explanation for why Looker ended up in ORAS with amnesia?
>>25307150
And new moves aren't the same as a new forme
And new items aren't the same as a new forme
And new abilities aren't the same as a new forme
If they want to introduce Pokemon mid-gen they'll do it. There are no rules.
>>25304870
Azure Flute got distributed in japan.
>>25305057
Red herring
>>25307172
No, it did not.
>>25307168
The new items have to do with the new formes, so that argument is invalid.
The new moves are used by new formes, so that argument is invalid.
The new abilities are only available to new formes, so that argument is invalid.
>>25304865
What is it even?
>>25307196
And they all break compatibility just like new Pokemon would. So your argument is invalid.
Also your second point is wrong. Groudon and Kyogre's moves have nothing to do with their formes.
>>25307120
heh, thanks kid, i appreciate your validation of my superior logical prowess
I think we will have XZ YZ or something like that, but I highly doubt this item will be used.
Specially when backwards compatibility is not a thing anymore when talking about new formes and megas.
>>25307210
>your argument is invalid because i can't differentiate between a minor change and a major change
A new Pokémon is nothing like a new item. The new moves are still minor because those can be removed, but a new Pokémon can't. If you still don't understand the difference in compatibility issues between adding a new Pokémon and a new move/item/forme then you're an idiot. Get rid of the move and you can trade the Pokémon back or battle with a previous game, the items only have to do with formes so they are irrelevant. A new Pokémon can't be used with a previous game whatsoever without a patch so it's not a comparable change.
>>25307104
>he still thinks we're skipping the XY sequel
>>25304865
>Implying this thing doesn't do foreshadowing of a new region, thus giving more reasons to think there's gonna be a jump to Gen VII rather soon
>>25307247
>A new Pokémon is nothing like a new item
How? They both break compatibility.
>The new moves are still minor because those can be removed, but a new Pokémon can't
Formes can't be removed.
> If you still don't understand the difference in compatibility issues between adding a new Pokémon and a new move/item/forme then you're an idiot.
There is no difference.
>A new Pokémon can't be used with a previous game whatsoever without a patch so it's not a comparable change
Neither can forms.
You're literally just making up shit to fit whatever made up rules you're trying to believe.
>>25307198
Strange Souvenir, an item given to you by a traveler in X/Y. You have to talk to him several times to get it, and he's randomly found in a different hotel every day. Its description hints at a region far to the south of Kalos.
>>25307309
You're actually just fucking retarded. You can change formes, idiot. Items won't be able to be traded but they don't make a significant difference. A new Pokémon does. I'm not making anything up because you're a dumbass who doesn't understand the difference in severity between adding something minor and something major.
>>25307339
>You can change formes
Yeah? And you can change Pokemon too. Doesn't change the fact that you can't use the forme itself.
>Items won't be able to be traded but they don't make a significant difference.
Neither do new Pokemon.
> I'm not making anything up because you're a dumbass who doesn't understand the difference in severity between adding something minor and something major
There is no difference in severity. They're the same. Either way it's a new thing with new stats and new moves and new abilities that can't be used in the previous game. There is no meaningful difference.
>people seriously think we're getting Gen 7 because "muh new pokemon! GF has never added pokemon to a generation! muh patterns!"
Gen 6 is the first gen with update support. I fully expect Pokemon Z with new pokemon, and there will most likely be a compatibility update for XY/ORAS.
>being this retarded
Did your mom throw you at the ground when you were a baby?
>>25307361
muh illogical conclusions
>>25307361
Are you fucking high? If they were going to patch shit, why not patch X/Y for ORAS support? Yeeeeeah, your argument just imploded.
Clever.
>>25307356
>being this retarded after having the differences spelled out for you several times
Friendly reminder of the three unusued power plant facilities in the kalos desert
>>25307410
>why not patch X/Y for ORAS support?
because XY was a mistake that GF wants to forget ever so badly. They retconned megas in regards to lore in ORAS because of how badly they fucked up
Gen 7 is a few years too early.
>>25307526
Actually this year is the new gen year. It's always
>New game
>2 years later: Remake
>1 year later: 3rd version
>1 year later: New gen
>>25307523
No it's because they wanted you to buy ORAS.
>>25304865
>>/x/ is that way
>>25304865
>>25307523
>a patch is useless on a game they want to abandon!
>not salvaging it and making it worthwhile
Holy shit son, can you get any more stupid?
>>25307574
That's some stupid shit. It doesn't match at all. The Strange Souvenir has more in common with Nosepass or Bronzong than Magearna.
>>25307513
>literally dozens of unused houses per gen
I don't think that has any significance, they have done it before multiple times.
>>25305269
Don't forget Ashime is canon in the game universe now thanks to Steven and Alain
>>25307627
>>25307620
>>25307540
>>25307410
Finally, people who are actually able to use logic and past patterns to make predictions instead of saying "lololol ur an idiot gen 7 not coming out 6.5 is next becuz i no want gen 7 yet"
>>25304913
kek
>>25304865
You're forgetting one important detail, OP!
>the Strange Souvenir isn't from Kalos
>>25307712
>people who are actually able to use logic and past patterns to make predictions
>past patterns
Muh patterns are basically meaningless.
>>25307540
Platinum came BEFORE HGSS.
>>25307737
>Muh patterns are basically meaningless
You're forgetting that Game Freak is incredibly predictable and generally follows the same format.
>>25304865
i'll sound like the noobiest around, but may i ask what's this icon? it's datamined from gen6? what do we know about it?
>>25307849
Look up the Strange Souvenir on Bulbapedia.
>>25307700
No it isn't, fuck off.
>>25307849
Strange souvenir. It's given you by an npc in the hotels
>>25307874
Hi pomf
>>25307889
Search your feels for you know it to be true.
>>25307891
>>25307874
>>25307906
thanks, could it be just a random hint to next gen ... africa related maybe?
>>25307910
Looks more jungle / easter island than african.
>>25307907
Alain investigating zygarde in Z?
Please, battle VS Alain.
>>25307915
Battle with one mega charizard would be lame af
>>25307907
That doesn't make the anime canon. It would mean they have a game counterpart. Why would you even think that when ORAS's female player character never meets Ash, doesn't have an annoying brother, etc?
>>25307914
Mega Probopass confirmed
