Ever wondered what newer gen attacks would look like in gen 2?
Here's my attempt at re-creating Bug Buzz.
>>25068129
Awesome idea
Do more
>>25068129
Looks great.
>>25068129
That it is a really nice animation.
>>25068163
OP here, give me a new attack to recreate and i will do it
>>25068242
Dragon Dance
>>25068242
Overheat
>>25068242
Scald
>>25068242
Judgment
>>25068242
moonblast
>>25068242
Mystical Fire.probably just sacred fire with different filter
>>25068242
U-Turn
>>25068129
Senpai, can you teach us to do that?i am not making a romhack or anything, just seeing how far can we get, considering we can also do this in G3.
>>25068246
The Rage animation followed by the Bide animation
>>25068248
a more prolonged Fire Spin animation
>>25068257
Surf animation plus burn animation
>>25068287
Maybe Defense Curl animation + Hyper Beam animation?
>>25068298
The Seismic Toss animation used on the player's pokemon.
>>25068246
Dragon dance finished
>>25068242
Quiver Dance?
>>25068322
>G2
>mfw X Accuracy is broken in first two gens
>and by broken I mean that the attack will never fail the accuracy check, even if it's an OHKO. Attacks can still miss under specific conditions, like semi-invulnerability turn, even in G1 where Swift ignores them.
>>25068322
Nice work man!
>>25068331
>says mfw
>doesn't post an image
Bruh
>>25068336
fuck, i knew i forgot something
>>25068300
bump.
>>25068248
Overheat finished
>inb4 forgot to add sp.atk reduction
>>25068431
>mfw overheat with no sp.atk reduction
>>25068257
scald...so far.
I think I broke it guise
>>25068456
it's beautiful. break it more.
>>25068322
HAMAZING keep it up op
>>25068456
>uses Scald
>the fabric of space-time is destroyedI'm enjoying this OP, link to move tutorial? Please?
>>25068456
this is an incredible new direction for your work, always innervate! forever evolve! you can do it op
This is pretty sweet OP, good thread
Zen Headbutt plos
>>25068513
Defense Curl + Headbutt fo sho
Oblivion Wing would be pretty interesting
>>25068257
scald finished (at last)
>>25068533
Hoothoot best girl
god damn OP, you are doing a great job
i really want that dragon dance desu
>>25068431
Without the flame wheel and it's perfect
>>25068533
What do you use for these? what programs?
>>25068605
this. i need to know for my hack OP
>>25068242
Brave bird or Head smash
>>25068306
>Maybe Defense Curl animation + Hyper Beam animation?
and also the moon from moonlight
>>25068129
Try Leaftsorm and Fusion Bolt and Flare
>>25068518
wish granted.
Was really interested in trying this move and it turned out pretty gud i think.
>>25068648
>>25068648
this looks pretty good
>>25068605
I assume he is modifying the disassembly.
https://github.com/pret
>>25068648
Oh that worked out great. Good job!
>>25068686
how do you work with python? i'm scared to even start trying
Awesome stuff OP. I've always wanted someone to make a romhack of Gen 2 with all the modern moves and mechanics. It would be the perfect game,
>>25068714
>perfect game
>with those graphic.
>>25068718
Go back to /v/
>>25068648
Can you do Judgment?
>>25068714
The perfect game would be gen2 with the Physical/Special split and better distribution of pokemons.
HGSS had the split but none of the other changes that would have helped.Also it needs to be released for the GBC.
>>25068733
fairy type would be cool too imo considering the amount of fairies in kanto and johto (clefairy, snubbull, marill, mr. mime)
>>25068242
Discharge.
keep goin op, once this message is read all we know, we are treading a dread thread, don't let it get dead, keep it afloat and overhead, don't go to bed, that's what i said, take your meds
>>25068733
My only real issue with HGSS is the distribution and poor level scaling for trainer mon. Besides that it remains my favorite game
>>25068129
>15/10
Close Combat?
>>25068129
A+
Toss in Fairy typing and you have the recipe for a 10/10 hack.
>>25068789
It really is my favorite of the main series as well, I just think it's a shame they didn't decide to fix those two things.
It's widely agreed that those are the biggest flaws so why not change them. After all I thought that was the point of remakes, to improve on an already good game.
Stealth rock?
Roar of Time please?
>>25068763
last one for now, Discharge.
And im using the pokemon crystal dissasembly.
Stockpile.
>>25068830
>After all I thought that was the point of remakes, to improve on an already good game.
the point is to make more money off an already good game
ideally they would fix things, but that comes secondary to the new coat of paint
>>25068648
SICK!
>>25068863
When you get back, I want you to do a psychic-type attack of your choice. So something like Extrasensory, Zen Headbutt, Psycho Cut, Psyshock or Psystrike. Or maybe Trick Room?
>>25068863
Are you up for Magical Leaf?
>>25068242
Nasty Plot. Please.
>>25068697
Python are venomous. Leave it to the professionals
>>25068863
these have all been great man, looking forward to seeing more later
>>25068474
>innervate
Hey OP, if you're in for a real challenge, try a fairy move, like Baby-Doll Eyes
>>25069042
heheh i was only protandang to be retarded m98
>all these shit moves
Do Zekrom and Reshiram's signature moves
>>25068957
Psycho Cut.
with sound : http://webmshare.com/zYOZP
Previous animations with sound.
Bug buzz - http://webmshare.com/4476n
Dragon dance - http://webmshare.com/bLxYb
Overheat - http://webmshare.com/BBedW
Scald - http://webmshare.com/8GKaw
Oblivion Wing - http://webmshare.com/nrQdo
Discharge - http://webmshare.com/yK1wb
>>25069155
This is great, anon ! Can you do Stone Edge too (with T-tar) ?
>>25069155
Shadow punch
>>25069177
stone edge...I tried
with sound: http://webmshare.com/Zaov0
>>25069307
nasty plot pls
How about Shadow Force?
>>25069307
Requester here, this is great
>>25069307
Still taking Requests? I would like Water Spout or Eruption. Just one of them would be enough though!
Your work is great.
>>25069279
shadow punch
with sound: http://webmshare.com/6BebD
I have been here since the board's inception and this is the best thread I have ever seen. Excellent work OP
>this thread
KEEP ON TRUCKIN', OP
>>25069451
Eruption
with sound: http://webmshare.com/1RyQ3
>>25069609
Fucking awesome! Thanks!
this guy is a god
requesting pichu or pikachu using nuzzle
Draco Meteor would be pretty rad
>>25069460
Thank you dude.
>>25069307
COuld have added a slash animation after the rocks.
>>25069609
Could you do Doom Desire or Heat Crash?
>>25068129
OP you're doing god's work
>>25069659
seconding this, or any of the elemental hyper-beams
>>25068648
Fucking AMAZING work, that looks awesome
holy fuck somebody needs to take these, add them into a Crystal Hack, and while they're at it add in the physical/special split.
I would love to replay Crystal, but I just can't force myself to go back to a time when several types has such bare-bones options for moves, and certain pokemon were just screwed with their stats not matching their typing.
>>25068863
>disassembly
Does this mean you can actually add new attacks in the game instead of just taking existing slots?
Please do Nasty Plot OP
>>25069626
Nuzzle. (went with raichu cause im a raichufag)
with sound: http://webmshare.com/JrbOm
>>25069809
Oh that's good
>>25068431
>PP 15/5
These are great. I would love to see Roar of Time, OP.
>>25069809
Someone's going to compile all of these, post it on Reddit's /r/pokemon and not credit you.
>>25069809
Would be funnier with the heart animation into paralysis.
This thread is godly though. Loved the GSC art and animations in my youth, so this is giving me great feels.
>>25069779
Last one for tonight need to sleep.
Nasty Plot
with sound: http://webmshare.com/ZaoOw
>>25069719
I would love to see a completely original set of moves in a pokemon hack. As in, start from scratch moves.
>>25070028
amazing, all i ever wanted
Can you do some legendary signature mvoes like Judgment or Psystrike?
God damn, this shit is awesome.
I wanna see either Baby-Doll Eyes, Geomancy, or Light of Ruin
these are fucking great thanks OP
Can someone take over for OP?
>>25070056
These.
Also thank you for all of these animations, OP
thanks op i cum on meowstic she hiss at penis :^)
Just kidding, these are great and I'm really excited to see more of OP. Thanks for your contributions.
You are really good OP, can we get some Geomancy or draco meteor?
Sneaky pebbles?
Nice work OP! this one may be hard; moonblast! pretty interesting to see a fairy move in 2nd gen.
>>25070703
Hmm... you could use the globe from Seismic Toss and the beam from Moonlight to make that I guess.
>>25069809
no worries raichu can use nuzzle too
i was just worried you would put some random mon like mareep or magnemite doing nuzzle
>>25070703
1 more before i make chocolate pudding
Moonblast
With sound: http://webmshare.com/jjxNL
>>25068465
Piss off Thanatos
>>25071259
Best one yet imho
>>25071259
Can you do Hyperspace fury please?
>>25071259
It's pretty good, but why is there a black line across the screen when it goes dark?
>>25068129
Can't you make a hack with all of these?
>>25071259
Nice work dude this is crazy.
Could you do Draco Meteor if you haven't already and I'm just blind?
>hack implementation never ;~;
>>25071301
limitations of Gameboy hardware and animating multiple things at once
I'll give you a hard request... shell smash.
Use slowbro please.
>>25068648
muh fucking dick
>>25071259
Still want to see U-Turn.
>>25071259
you should probably make it as though the moon appears first, then the beam is bursted, with no focus energy thing
>>25070028
awesome
>>25068697
You don't need to use any Python to work with the disassembly, you just need to run the programs already made by other people.
>>25068733
>>25068738
Fairy-type and the split are both easy to implement.
Also this shit is godlike, OP, keep it up.
>>25069721
You can, but, there's still the issue of move slots. Move slots are made up of one byte, 256 moves, and 00 and FF can't be used because they're used for functions, so that leaves you with 254 moves. GSC alread has 251 moves in it, so that's only room for three before you have to replace existing moves.
You could theoretically give moves two bytes of data for its slots, which would give you a hypothetical 65536 (minus two) moves and no need to ever worry about slots again, but you would have to rewrite every single piece of the game involving moves so that it uses two bytes instead of one. It's theoretically doable but nobody's done it since it requires a lot of work.
>>25071928
Links to these programs? I'm working on a Crystal hack and they would be incredibly useful
How about Hyper Voice?
>>25068697
Python is the easiest thing ever.
>>25072058
really? i'm scared i don't know jack shit about programming
>>25071998
They all come with the disassembly, except the map editor.
https://github.com/yenatch/crowdmap
Here's the map editor.
>>25072124
Read a tutorial and you'll learn in no time. Not difficult and very useful. Give it a try.
>>25072146
ok thanks m8
i've seen youtube videos and they scare me seeing people work with that stuff
OP PLS DO ELECTROWEB
>>25068648
sweet
>>25069609
this one is great, too
>>25071259
amazing
>>25072139
So assuming I want to recreate newer moves like OP. I'd have to open the asm files on notepad and change stuff in them right? How would someone let's say recreate u-turn for example?
10/10 OP
>>25072226
well you could take the baton pass effect and then just add a damaging move to it
>>25068431
>>25068322
>>25068648
>>25069155
This is fantastic, OP. If a Gen 2 hack implemented all this, I'd play the shit out of it.
>this thread
>these animations
>>25072226
Well the few moves I attempted to create don't look nearly as good as OP's (I just copied existing animations, maybe added an extra effect or changed the sound clip, like my Fairy Wind is just Razor Wind with a different sound effect), but yeah, you have the gist of it. Basically the way I figure out anything in this disassembly is by looking at how similar things are done, analyzing them, and copying what they do exactly, changing what's needed to get the effect I want. Pic related is what the code for move animations look like, this specific one is just me copying Flash, removing the shake animation at the end and adding a flashing animation at the end (the one that appears when a Pokémon gets hit).
>>25072258
Well that wouldn't work exactly. You'd want to make a different effect copied from Baton Pass but remove the "new Pokémon has the same stat changes as the old one" effect, otherwise the move would have a combined U-Turn and Baton Pass effect.
>This whole thread
>>25072311
Thanks! Also what kind of language is this so I can find a quick tutorial.
>>25072378
Game Boy games are written in Z80 Assembly.
What makes the GBC the best aesthetically for a Pokemon game?
>>25072369
>What he said
>>25072411
the retro charm
Fan-fucking-tastic work OP. You're making /tr/ proud.
>>25068242
Do Snarl or Night Daze
>>25069992
This is exactly what's going to happen. I'm ashamed to even know that.
>>25072153
enter 'learn python the hard way' into your favorite search engine
if my little siblings can pick up at least the basics, you can too
there's also a bunch of MIT open courses on basic programming/cs stuff, also in python if I recall
>>25072411
the economy of expression
3Dfags will never understand
Requesting Close Combat.
>>25072792
Seems like it wouldn't be that different from Dynamicpunch.
>>25072793
Basically the same thing as Dynamic Punch, but with "Hit" Effects rather than Explosions.
>>25068412
Its easy if you're using the Pokered/pokecrystal disassembly. You can add about ~10 new moves in r/b/y
Just edit:
/data/moves.asm
/text/move_names.asm
/constants/move_constants.asm
/constants/move_animation_constants.asm
The hardest part for me was figuring out what hex values control what animations.
>>25072833
However, when I tried to add new moves without removing old ones in crystal, I got allotted-space errors when compiling. So I don't think its possible to just add new moves without moving massive tables of data around. Although I didn't put much effort in to it as I was more interested in modding R/B
>>25072833
My data folder doesn't have a moves.asm
How fucked am I?
>>25073040
Also how do I define what I want a certain move to do if said effects aren't already in the game?
Volt Tackle should be done
>>25073166
Are you using pokecrystal? Pokered has moves.asm in the data folder, in Pokécrystal it's
/battle/moves/moves.asm
>how do I define what I want a certain move to do if said effects aren't already in the game?
You'll have to code it in yourself.
>>25069609
Jesus Christ man...
>>25071259
You sir have made my day and inspired me a lot, you have my most sincere thank you!
>>25072411
It's old enough so that the music and graphics sound/look nostalgic and cute instead of just aged (like RSE)
>>25068242
light of ruin
>>25068129
That looks fucking awesome tbqh.
>>25072792
OP here, request granted
with sound: http://webmshare.com/BBeb9
>>25073872
yeah but where do i code let's say EFFECT_U-TURN in order for it to be called?
>>25074052
>Omoe wa mo... shindieru.
These are fucking awesome, OP. You should work with the guy who's making Red+ or something.
Care to give a little insight on how these are being made?
>>25074058
simple method of using animation routines already in game and having the play at the right time in the right combos. Would recomend doing it unless you have experience with python and such. I am using Cygwin with windows for python and "Notepad++" for editing the attacks.
>>25074071
OP here again.
>mfw that terrible typing
God im so tired...
>>25074052
OR here, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
And you even got my second favorite pokemon. Nice!
>>25074080
I'm honestly really interested in what you've been
doing. This and Poke-Toy Story have already made my day.
>>25069659
>>25070572
>>25071312
Draco Meteor, best i could do with what i got to work with.
with sound: http://webmshare.com/eRwjy
>>25074052
Oh wow, that's better than I expected, I apologize for doubting when I posted >>25072793
Are you planning on using these for a hack of your own or are you just doing them for the fun of making them?
>>25074055
There should be a move_effects.asm or something similar where you can define what your effect will do. I'm not sure exactly where it is in pokecrystal
>>25074311
Can't you change the colour of effects? I mean, looks good, but the meteors just look like, well, rocks.
>>25074334
Theoretically you would have to create a new sprite or recolor an existing sprite, then add it to the graphics tables, then point to it in your animations asm. I haven't done it personally so I'm not sure if its that simple. Usually its just easier to use existing sprites.
>>25074340
Recolouring sprites shouldn't be that hard.
I mean, I only did it way back with Clonk Planet so my experience is limited, but it worked out. And I barely knew what a computer was back then.
How am I supposed to save this thread now that archive.moe is off?
>>25072411
the palettes
they just suit the artstyle really well
>>25074382
Just save the webms and links.
Hey OP, amazing work man. One of the best threads I've seen on /vp/. I'm curious to see what you would do with Aura Sphere.
>>25074052
omg that looks amazing
>>25074311
Absolutely sick. Requesting Giga Impact on Steelix
OP please make a hack of GSC with all these moves.
I will pay you in trident layers.
>>25069609
I really like you as a person, OP. I just thought you should hear that.
One of my choices, Horn Leech.
>no pokes under gen 5 that learn Horn leech
>inb4 Exeggutor has horns jokes
with sound: http://webmshare.com/dLP5O
>>25074988
Coulda used stantler
>>25074988
You're doing good work here, OP.
>>25074988
You just reminded me... Head charge Tauros!
>>25074988
This is amazing.
Please do Hyperspace Fury!
>>25072411
The constraints of the medium force the creators work extra hard to make everything pleasurable and requires them to be inventive and make every single design distinct and memorable.
And it's at a level where it's simple but still expressive and effective, so it never gets outdated and doesn't become more or less appealing depending on current trends.
>>25074311
tbqb, just the first meteor is enough. the impact is so intense
>>25075694
This. It's similar to how much a game is compressed; older games would squeeze as much as possible into a few MB, and in the specific case of GSC, Game Freak had Iwata make a special compression method for the game that saved a ton of space in the ROM and allowed a truncated Kanto to be put in the game (not that this isn't a well-known story).
Now people don't even try, current-gen PC games go above 40GB at times because devs don't give a shit about space and just assume the customer will buy a 1TB harddrive to make more room.
>>25075710
Nah, it's cooler to go full Final Fantasy and have it be a shower of meteors.
OP you are the best!
>>25075363
Hyperspace Fury only works with Hoopa, so it can't be used in gen 2. :^)
For real though, OP, you should make something fun like Ice Ball, Icicle Spear, Magical Leaf, Ingrain, Heat Wave or Grass Whistle, rather than just those high base power moves. But anything would be neat. Please just make more!
>>25075958
OP here, dont worry im on it, just taking a little break will do an ice type move next
>>25076013
Awesome!
>>25076013
I love you OP.
Honestly, just a gen II romhack with these fucking sick animations and special/phys split would be GOAT. You reminded me why I love gen 2 so much.
>>25075958
>http://webmshare.com/dLP5O
Ice Ball
with sound: http://webmshare.com/oK14g
>>25076172
Sneasel might be not shit in a gen 2 with more ice moves
I love OP
>>25068129
This is the best thread I've seen in like a year
I'd totally play a Gen 2 remake with these attacks, the physical/special split, and fairy type.
Keep up the good work, OP.
>>25076172
Requesting Dark Pulse.
You should totally do Roar of Time OP. I think it'd be fitting on an Arcanine.
Grasswhistle, i tried to recreate the tune as best I could.
with sound: http://webmshare.com/XNmDx
>>25069155
>Those gen 2 fire sound effects
was making me erect part of your plan?
This is really cool. Great job OP.
>>25076172
>>25076353
Thanks, OP! Now I feel like a hog, you already did three or four of my requests. But great job anyway!
>>25074382
fgts.jp is our new archive.
Also, all the redditors that are in this thread waiting to pounce are horrible. Just to let them know that.
>>25076353
I have a request, Opie. I would like to see Zekrom's moves. Those two electric signatures he has.Zekrom a cool. A COOL.
>This thread
>Poke Toy Story
/vp/ is becoming glorious>tfw Mimic CYOA will never be finished
>>25076529
OP here, Im not sure its possible to create Fusion bolt or bolt strike with what i can work with.
Requesting Leaf Tornado.
>>25076543
OP, could you add any new Pokemon? I'm certain you can find gen2 versions of most new Pokemon.
>>25076543
Well sheeiit.
I bet Cross Poison would look sick as hell.
Hyper Voice!
>>25068431
I am fairly sure the game doesn't do that if you've fainted the last Pokemon.
>>25076568
Seconding this one so much.
>>25074055
Doesn't G2 actually have U-turn effect in, but it went unused?
G2 had a bunch of unused shit, like items that prevented one of the status.
>>25076660
effects that prevented*
>>25076553
Replacing old Pokémon with new ones is easy, though you have a limit of 253 for the same reason as >>25071967 (the egg takes up a slot too, hence not being 254).
Easily one of the best threads I've ever seen on /vp/, 10/10. The only animation that I would alter is Overheat since it would be better without the Flame Wheel intro, but other than that I love all of them.
I especially like how the animations stay very true to the style of Gen II and look like they could really be in the games. Also, where do you OP come up with all these ideas like adding those Razor Leaf leaves to the animation of Grasswhistle? I would never have enough imagination to create animations like this.
Also, if you're still taking requests, I'd love to see Magneton using Flash Cannon.
Flash Cannon
with sound: http://webmshare.com/Gye70
How can one OP be so based?
>>25071967
Would anyone please do this for OP? I would, but I'm completely unskilled. Think of the moves possibilities! Also, all the new Pokemon.
>>25077147
Thank you so much, that looks amazing. Too bad you're not tripfagging because you'd be my favorite tripfag.
>>25077159
It's something I've wanted to do for a while but I also don't have the skills and I don't want to constantly bother the disassembly IRC asking trivial shit while they're busy trying to disassemble Emerald.
>>25068733
So Sacred Gold/Storm Silver?
>>25076353
C'mon OP, everyone is waiting for Giga Impact on Steelix! We Love You!
>>25077172
Don't encourage tripfagging. If OP wants people to recognize him he will just post more of his OC, simple as that.
>>25076568
>>25076611
Cross Poison. Last one for tonight, I sleep now.
with sound: http://webmshare.com/Gyer0
>>25077405
You sir are an artist
Looks like I came in too late but OP these were all fucking incredible. I'd kill to play a G/S/C rom with all of these kinds of moves in the game. God damn these are cool.
>>25077147
Your animations are clever and "non-obvious". Love it OP.
Could you try Teeter Dance
Good work, OP.
If you're still doing this, maybe Trick-or-Treat?
>>25077405
Can you do Aqua Veil?
>>25076543
Fly, then drop from the sky with flame/electric effects, possibly with that "rain" effect you used in Draco Meteor to make it look more dynamic.
OP. I could suck you off
nice work ;)
>>25077405
Wow, that's perfect!
Gen 2 poison effect looked so cool.
>>25077405
This one could without a doubt have been part of the game. This is my favorite together with CC
>>25075837
Yea recently I was told TES Online was like 80 GB download where meanwhile you can download FF14 like 3-4 times with that amount of space. I am pretty sure there are hard drives that still exist that would never be able to hold TES Online, personally though I am used to counting by the GB and often only buy hard drives by the TB. Still I can't help but to think that someone honestly thought 80 GB space uptake is completely fine just for a MMO. Seem like people just don't give a shit anymore.
>>25078005
FF14 is about 8.5GB.
So you could install FF14 almost 10 times.
>>25077405
This is the most beautiful one in the thread.
