This is a gen one pokemon.
>>25066569
And this… This is what is known as a Super Saiyan that has ascended past a Super Saiyan. Or… you can just call this a Super Saiyan 2.
Both look pretty cool to me.
>>25066582
and this is to go even further beyond
I see nothing wrong with it
>>25066569
This is a Gen 6 Pokémon.
I really don't see how Gen I Pokemon are any better (or worse) than those from any other generation. Some people say there are noticeable changes over the years, but I don't see it. Honestly, I think they've been quite consistent in their designs.
>>25066569
no its not
>>25067382
They've gotten more designy. Not that that's a bad thing.
Although I like a lot of gen 1, I think they have some of the worst designs.
Pretty much any pokemon designed to look like a pokeball is retarded though.
>>25067382
When genwunners say 1st gen had the best designs they're usually talking about 15-20 mons max, one of which is guaranteed to be Charizard. They never talk about shit like Exeggcute or Tangela or Mr. Mime
>>25067482
Tangela was the only pure grass type
>not using tangela
>>25067382
compare the proportions
>>25068258
Not this shit again when it has been disproven with other pairs
>>25068258
The newer gens look more cartoony.
>>25068262
>>25067482
Bitch Tangela is adorable. Sure it's silly but in a fun, endearing sort of way.
>>25068258
>>25068269
can you really blame gamefreak? basic shapes are better to create plush toys and other merchandising
>>25068269
Did you really expect the artstyle to remain stagnant for 20 years?
Ken's artwork evolves just as he evolves as a person, time passes, trends change, deal with it
>>25066569
>This is a gen one pokemon.
No, that's part of a balanced breakfast.
>>25068269
So what I got from this
>Gen 1 pokemons are just my mom's dog/bird/caterpillar placed in the game
>late gens are designed to look different from real life animals
>I hate the new pokemon! They're too simplified!
>I hate the new pokemon! They're too overdesigned!
Not in this thread but I've seen shit like this and all I can say is make up your fucking minds
>>25068326
simplified in the sense that their body shapes are much less detailed and with overly cartoony proportions
overdesigned in the sense that they have a lot more unnatural patterns and extra colors
>>25068343
>overdesigned in the sense that they have a lot more unnatural patterns and extra colors
Honeslty I feel like the changes in Pokemon design over the years are just a reflection of how the "anime" art style itself has changed over the years. I don't see ANYTHING being made nowadays that looks like how Pokemon used to look.
>>25068487
I've always hated those DBZ like character designs. Everything's too 'pointy'
>>25068458
>two colors
>stripes are unnatural
at least try
>>25068515
>It's okay when Gen. 1 does it!
>>25068487
Right looks better tbqh
>>25068467
This is a good point. Old pokemon had much more of a 90s anime influence, and that's obviously not around anymore.
>>25068467
Pokemon's just following along with the new style of anime as it should.
If it still had art like the ones in RBY people would be shitting on it and calling it outdated instead.
>>25068487
>Red
>A grip on his simple, efficient backpack, one strap on while he's casual and two straps when it's down to business, looks geared up and prepared for adventure
>Buckled up and pants tucked into and wrapped around the ankles by insulated shoes, gonna stay warm and dry and not let any bugs crawl up his leg
>An unidentified badge on his cap, suggesting his enthusiasm and the promise of his skills
>Look of confidence, Pokeball at the ready, determined to capture them all and be the best trainer
>Nice simple design, memorable, colors go well together, the jacket pops, the clothing is both familiar and strange, perfectly demonstrates the game world's combination of fantastical, futuristic and natural
>Black
>A dainty hand on his fashionable satchel, trying and failing to shift the strap digging into his shoulder, the satchel hangs over his butt and will go flying off the second he has to move faster than he does on the runway
>Cute shorts with the strings untied so those will slip right off ;), got his tights on underneath so he's always ready for ballet (cut off over the ankle so they don't catch on his dance slippers)
>Regular Nikes and no socks, perfect for getting waterlogged and catching a cold, terrible for traversing most terrains
>Vacuous smile, unfocused and distracted gaze, only sign that he gives a shit about training is a small pokeball symbol on his headband (he's fucked if it ever rains or snows) which aren't even the accurate colors
>Boring design, forgettable, Stripes: the Outfit, mom's /fa/ggot, unimaginative and derivative crap, says nothing about the game except that it'll be sort of fruity
>>25068573
>still beat Red anyway
Tip top kek
>>25068573
Not biased towards any gen at all, but the favoritism in this post is so blatant it hurts.
>>25068573
>tights
It's a wetsuit anonto drag you into the depths of the ocean where you will die
>>25068487
Red looks like a pokemon trainer. Black looks like the instructor of a spinning class for women who just had a baby
>>25068573
>>25068608
>Black
>>25068608
Red looks like a retarded autist boy who's too afraid to talk to anybody which is why he keeps doing the "..." thing and shamefully peeks out of his hat before running away as fast as he could after he lost to Ethan
>>25068609
>Black 2
>>25068620
>what is Nate
>>25068620
>not just saying Black 2 anyway
>>25068625
>Pokemon Nate
>>25068632
Are you retarded?
>>25068632
>calling protagonists based on their respective games
Might as well just call Lucas "Diamond" and Dawn "Pearl".
>>25066569
still better than 3 diglets glued together.
>>25068639
Yeah, might as well. Diamond and Pearl is exactly where the series went off the rails
>>25067482
As a certified genwunner I can tell you are completely wrong.
It's the general design. The have become firstly over-designed, too many random spots and stripes and spikes all over the place. Second it's just more "cartoony" not sure how to describe it but look at this guy's pic >>25068258
Besides Mr Mime and Jynx I think literally all other gen 1 pokemons have a good design.
>>25068651
That has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about
Are you fucking retarded, or just desperately trying too hard?
>>25067482
Tangela and Mr. Mime are excellent designs
>>25068665
If you can't tell the connection between >>25068639 and >>25068651, you have difficulties with reading comprehension
>>25068674
No, you're just pulling random shit out of your ass.
We were discussing why the fuck you'd call protagonists based on their games when they already have official names and you just fucking go "DP is where the series went off the rails" which is BARELY a fucking answer to anything.
>>25068654
>The have become firstly over-designed, too many random spots and stripes and spikes all over the place
so your problem is that the newer pokemon actually look like exotic creatures instead of literally my mom's cat, dog, or fish.
>>25068654
cartoony since gen 2 with smeargle miltank etc,,
>>25068684
>>25068639 says "might as well call them Diamond and Pearl", as if this would not be preferable to the change in naming convention as of DP. >>25068651 says "yes, might as well, DP is where the series went off the rails", suggesting the change reflects that. Use your brain
>>25068654
>too many random spots and stripes and spikes
>Pocket MONSTERS
>>25068667
Top lek
>>25068705
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize 'monster' meant it had to like like shit.
>>25068704
Alright, I was over exeggerating when I said it had nothing to do with what we were talking about. But still, how the fuck does that answer even mean we should call them Diamond and Pearl?
>>25068712
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize "monster" meant it had to be a pile of eggs with angri Dx faces
>>25068715
The post doesn't go into the reasons why
>>25068732
It really should
>>25068288
LITERALLY my mom's hermit crab.
Smhtbh.
>>25068288
That's the whole point of Gen V. Gen II has connections to it as well.
>>25068258
Nice cherrypicking m8. Now how about you compare Barbaracle to Slowbro?
>>25068288
Yeah, thay all have similar a design basis, but they also all look radically differrnt from each other. What's your problem with this, other than autism?
>>25066569
Yes. It was OU of the GOAT region, dex, and games.
>>25068269
Yeah, gen 1 looks much better here.
>>25068288
>>25068269
>>25068258
>shitting on pokemon designs
get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
>>25069466
compare the different art styles on pokemon with similar concepts
>>25069466
>but they also all look radically differrnt from each other
That's the point.
my biggest thing is I remember gen 1 and gen 2 in the original art style and the later gens obviously in the new style where everything is cuter and less 90's monster japan looking
Help me fill out this bingo card, /vp/.
>>25069830
"Literally looks like my mom's X "
>>25069830
>"Keldeo looks like something from Small Equines: Companionship is Arcane"
>>25069830
>>25069916
I uhh...don't think two babies one fox is posted in genwar threads. Aren't they usually posted in image dump threads (pokemon, trainer girls, etc)?
>>25069916
>>25069751
Every single time. Is this a meme because I see it every time a thread like this opens.
>>25068269
>realistic goo with complex linework
>>25068288
are you implying only gen 5 did this?
>>25070096
>Gardevoir evolves by trade
>>25069751
No way!
>>25070008
If I may be brutally honest, Reuniclus is a far better slime than Muk.
>>25070096
Okay. I'll bite. How is Grumpig a rehash of Hypno?
>>25070008
Which gen1 pokemon is overdesigned?
Anyway all the others are stuff that happens all the fucking time.
>>25068487
>Hell yeah, motherfucker
Didn't even post Platinum Lucas because that would have humiliated you too hard.
>>25068573
>fashionable satchel
It's the only one big enough to fit a bicycle.
>>25070897
>an homunculus
>anything to do with a slime monster
>>25070920
some people would claim rhyhorn, nidoking, gyarados...
>>25070943
>an pile of shit
>anything to do with a slime monster
>>25068269
You can add this one to the list.
>>25071258
you're trying too hard today sir, you already posted this shit in other thread AND made your own thread for display your shit taste.
>>25066582
>>25066929
This was better when it was done on /b/ with singles, dubs, trips, and quads. I miss the finer things in life.
>>25068343
>unnatural patterns, proportions
Have you looked at most fucking animals
Fletchling has the basic color pattern and build of the Japanese Robin, while Pidgey is a mishmash of a hawk and a finch that resembles no bird existing in nature
>>25067382
Gen I designs tended to be simpler when it comes to inspiration but more detailed in actual execution. Compare the paw design between Vulpix and Fennekin and between Eevee and Zorua in >>25068258 for example. This is I believe is why genwunners tend to say that gen I designs felt more "realistic" and less overdesigned/cartoony like the rest.
>>25074598
>simpler when it comes to inspiration
>references a squirrel turtle of all things
>forgets about whatever the hell Nidoqueen, Nidoking, and Rhydon are supposed to be
>forgets about the post directly above his own
>>25070907
Fatty 2-stage psychic type
>>25074626
>references a squirrel turtle of all things
You're talking about Squirtle? That's not a squirrel's tail you dumbass.
Every gen 1 starter design contains a direct reference to it's actual type. Bulbasaur has a bulb growing on it's back. Charmander has a flame on the tip of it's tail. And Squirtle has a tail resembling a wave. It's not hard to understand and yet you still managed to fuck it up.
>>25068288
Counterparts are actually fun
>>25074626
You can still notice the small feathers on the Japanese robin pictured above. Fletchling's body is a completely flat surface with no respect to the source material at all.
>>25070096
The only valid ones are Feebas / Milotic (which was definitely deliberate considering it's stats mirror Gyarados) and Gulpin / Swalot.
>>25068269
>>25066569
The theory that Pokemon are some kind of Alien weapon, something we rely on that they will turn against us, if that's true. The cutesy cartoony designs make sense.
Make them look more harmless and lovable, more people will want them..
the aliens are learning.
>>25068288
>fucking nature, designing too many birds, bugs and shit!!!!
>>25074632
>Fatty
Neither Spoink nor Hypno are fatties.
>>25074672
snout 2-stage psychic types
>>25074678
Ah.I noticed "hypnosis" being a similar theme between the two lines as well.
>>25066569
And it breaks the rule of not being able to catch pokemon in a group
