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Pokémon TCG/O General: "Merry Christmas!" Edition
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OLD THREAD: >>24864365

New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

News/Legal List/Set scans/etc
>http://pokebeach.com/

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>unlock all locked cards in the three theme decks you're given at the start
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>enter theme tournaments with basic green and get both hitters prized
>enter standard/expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes a tradable pack
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>use the Trade section to trade the packs and chests for the shit you need
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ for a list of viable decks or ask here

Your old cards are probably worthless.

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/

To get a general idea about what is strong in the Meta go there
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/metagame-deck-discussion.250/

Pack codes are worth about 15-30 cents while other codes are worth around a dollar or two.

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Never post them as text, even if they're missing a letter/number
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered

If you're interested in working on /vp/'s custom TCG, find their general in the catalog and post there.

TotT: Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas? And no, cash/gift cards/gift certificates don't count.
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>>24889818
Pikachu box, pulled SR Energy Retrieval.
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>>24889818
>Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas?
No
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>>24889818
>Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas?

4 Booster Boxes (Primal Clash, Roaring Skies and 2 BREAKthrough).

Also I get a few Legendary Treasures (the best expansion) booster packs.
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Now, would anyone disapprove of me continuing my code giveaway?

Oh, and...

>TOTT

Nope.

Oh, and does anyone know of any good places to pick up TCG packs/value boxes in Vancouver?

>>24889826
>>24889863

Nice.

>>24889828

That sucks, but notice how the TotT doesn't mention gifts that you give yourself?
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>>24889902
>>24889818
Just the delibird + 5 chests and some of your codes anon
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Hey guys, newfag to PTCGO
I have 600 coins, what should I buy from the store?
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A code drop's coming in a minute, get ready!

>>24890033

Do you already have Dark Hammer for Theme tournaments? If you don't, I suggest picking that up.
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And remember, post what you get!

>>24890064
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>>24890079
Bottom code entered and by the time I hit claim now, it was already used.... ;_;
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>>24890079
are you posting any more codes tonight?
also, does anyone else always have trouble loading assets?
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to the anon getting vending machine cards, where do you buy them from?
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>>24890079
got this one, thanks anon
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>>24890079
Redeemed top one...nothing happened?
It gave me a message like
Code.redeem.message or something like that
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>>24890079
Got a N pack and the Spectile deck, thanks for the Christmas gifts binder guy

>>24890101
I already redeemed them sorry
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>>24890101
Might have gotten sniped like I did
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Oh, and this was the only UR I got from the free chests.

Another code drop in in a minute.

>>24890087

Yep, I got two more after the next one.
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>>24890113
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>>24890119
Thanks Binder Guy
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Another code drop in a minute.
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>>24890119
Thanks man of binders
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>>24890133
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>>24890119
>Petalburg bundle pack
thanks man
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And the final code drop of the night is happening in a minute.
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>>24890139
>Got another N pack
thanks, the other guys are getting fast now
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>>24890139
Thanks man!
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>>24890144

And there we go!
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>>24890151
>all gone in 51 seconds
where do you get the gym packs?
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>>24890151
Thank you!
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>>24890151
>all redeemed
wow
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>>24890160
gotta go fast

>>24890151
thanks for the gifts man
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And now I'm off to bed, I'll see you all tomorrow or the day after (depending on if I decide to take advantage of Boxing Day sales or not).

And I might do another code giveaway when I return.

>>24890156

The gym packs are leftovers from the League I manage, I also have tons of leftover promo holos (Energy, Trainers, and some Pokemon thanks my League also getting the LC promos.) and badge patches.
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i have like twelve codes

i'll post them tomorrow though
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>>24890178
>tomorrow
anon don't do this, I'll be stuck here for the rest of the day
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I'm thinking of getting my siblings some stuff for all the TCG stuff they got, but I don't play it myself.
What do people typically use for counters and randomizers? Any good sets I can buy?

Also would you recommend getting any Elite Trainer boxes (if so, which)? I figure between the other stuff it comes with, it will last them until they decide they want to continue or drop the hobby; I'll probably need to get them a binder down the line.
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>>24890178
make a now thread I just got another pack
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Just ordered the two BreakTHROUGH theme decks for my nephews. They both seem pretty shit but the Gengar seems fun so I'll post the codes in here once they arrive.
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>1st place in my first tourney
aw yiss
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>mfw running Noivern BREAK.dek

I just love watching my opponents rip their hair out when their attacks do nothing to me but they're forced to discard Energy or damage their own Pokemon...

>>24891874
>Standard

Try Expanded next time, I just got 1st with a Sceptile-EX/Ariados deck.

And if you're curious, my final opponent was running a Landorus-EX deck.
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>>24891957
Cool story bro. I'll stick to standard still
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>>24891957
now that you're here binder guy, can you tell me if these trades are worth it:

Steven(mine) -> 1 XY Break pack
4 XY Break pack (mine) -> Aegislash-EX

also what's a good trade to get Suicune?
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>>24892114
>Steven for a pack.

You might want to specify which print, the RSK print is worth about a third of a pack and the FA is worth three packs.

>4 XY Break pack for Aegislash-EX.

That's pretty fair.

>What's a a fair trade for Suicune?

Suicune is worth a pack.
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>>24892174
this one

also I only find op Suicunes wtf
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How do I report someone doing nothing but stalling? He's just clicking not afk and has been for 5 minutes now.
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>>24892465
screencaps & submit a report on the site is the only way. Cos the devs are idiots.
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>>24892575
Makes sense, he eventually timed out anyway.
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>>24892260
>full art for one pack
do it
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What's the best use for coins on PTCGO?
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>>24893122
entering tournaments to get tournament tickets
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>>24893122
what above anon said is true.

But do keep a solid seed fund of 1000-2000 there for bundles that are sometimes worthwhile to the point you might want to pick up four of them.
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>buy the primal clash bundle on a whim
>Wailord-EX, SR Enhanced Hammer and AT Medicham
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Hey anons, I'm planning ahead for the next expansion and want to build something around the new Durant.
> [G] Mountain Munch 10
>Discard the Top card of your opponent's deck

>[G][C] Grind Down
>f this Pokémon has any damage counters on it, discard the top 4 cards of your opponent's deck.

Discard the top card of your opponent's deck.
I'm thinking of using rainbow energy and EXP share, but I've been out of the meta for the last two expansions so are there any cards that would work well around its second attack?
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>>24893619
Houndoom/Bunnelby is better and doesn't rely on a 60 HP mon that needs two energy installs.
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>>24893619

>Rainbow Energy
>EXP Share

Sorry, but EXP Share only works with Basic Energies
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Got a question here

Jirachi XY-ROS has the Doom Desire attack which says
> [M] [C] Doom Desire
Discard all Energy attached to this Pokémon. The Defending Pokémon is Knocked Out at the end of your opponent's next turn.

Does this mean, if i use switch, the new active pokemon dies at the end of my turn ?
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>>24894079

Nope, Doom Desire's effect is applied on your Active Pokemon at the time of the attack. If you switch it out, the effect is gone (just like all other attacks that have effects on your Active Pokemon)
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>>24894079
I do not know if it's the correct ruling (since the client is often wrong), but if attacked by this, you can retreat before you're due to get knocked out and it nullifies the move entirely.

By the wording, you'd think it should get knocked out on the bench regardless.
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>>24894102
Yeah, i can't find any sort of information about this because i use 3 Jirachi XY-ROS on a budget deck and i never played this deck on PTCGO
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>>24893696
You exp share grass energy OR just sceptile it.
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>>24893619
Magma base?
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Is there anybody even comparable to Jwittz's Prof-It series or TTC in terms of pokemon content? I read The Charizard Lounge's stuff a lot of the time and shelling out money for a subscription site's articles just doesn't feel right.
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I posted some codes last thread and said please post pulls, I even went as far as to call you my pizanos. But some cuckolding individual sniped all the codes and didn't even post pulls. Truly a scumbag thing to do. The lowest of the low. A bottom feeder.

That said, Please post pulls pizanos.
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>>24894423
Thanks for the EX bro.
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>>24894423
Thanks!
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>browsing trades
>someone wanted a Shaymin + Lucario for their FA Shaymin

Finally a good deal.
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My only regret is not having room for Steven.
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I haven't played since the shit client overhaul. Has anything been fixed yet?
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>>24895119
Doesn't look like and it took me a solid 30s to find a ladder opponent, so I guess the game is finally dead. Shame.
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Have any of you guys ever lost sleep over tcgo? I've only been playing it seriously for a few (4) months and recently I've been loading sleep over it. Not even playing, just thinking about deck building and trades. I think I need to take a break, but it is too difficult to quit. I need help.
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please do not use Vileplume with if you don't have a means to land a decisive strike
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>Just won someone who used 2 malamar EX and 1 sharpedo ex with a shitty deck.

Feels good man.
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>>24894423
How come you can give away so many codes, my now more emotional christmas spirit?
are you perhaps considerably wealthy?
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Has anyone got this working on 64-bit Linux with Wine? I'm having a hell of a time of it.
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>opponent uses teammates 3 times in the game
>still win

Man this feels good. I hate those two little bitches so much
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>>24896494
>That feel when you KO your opponent's Active Pokemon with a passive status effect and they proceed to flip their shit and threaten to report you for cheating when they can't play Teammates.
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>>24895119
Many bug fixes, but many more bugs appeared.

Animations are slightly faster. There will never be an option to disable them.
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>>24895958
Cause' the only hobbies I have that consume money are Pkmn cards(of which i buy too many), bonkles, ackshin figures, and food. And i have a decent paying job and am in debt to no man, except my father whom I owe $10 USD.
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>>24895977
It all just worked for me. I used playonlinux though.
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Dont be a Jew, post your pulls please
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Thanks my dude! (the other two packs are still up for grabs!)
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>>24898166
Thanks.
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>>24898166
Thanks!
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How does my list look?

>>24889818
TotT: Nah, but I did buy myself a 3-3 line of Mega Manectric..
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>>24898434
I would drop a lightening energy for a DCE
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>>24898434
>no ultra balls
>no level balls
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>>24898434
Replace 4-4 Raichu line and a couple Electric energies for with 3-3-2 Crobat line, some Super Scoop Ups and one AZ. Replace 2-2 Octillery line with 2 Shaymin EX. Replace 2 Professor Birch's Observations and 1 Skyla with 3 Trainer's Mail. Replace 3 Sky Field with 2 Parallel City. Replace 3 Muscle Band with 2-3 Head Ringer. Remove Escape Rope, Rough Seas and DCE for 3 Acro Bike.
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>>24898434
>>24898737
Follow up:

Add 1 Hoopa EX, 4 Ultra Ball and 2-3 Level Ball.
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My collection is finally almost finished
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>>24898824
Damn, I should do that for my favorite Pokemon. How much did all that cost you?
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>>24898946
>How much did all that cost you?

The nice thing is I didn't have to spend a whole lot of actual cash on my collection. I play competitively and do a lot of trading/selling, and my local card store lets me sort product for them for store credit. So all of the more expensive cards, even the Japanese ones, I either traded for or used store credit/tournament winnings on.

The whole collection is worth roughly $250, I'd guess I probably spent $20-30 on it max.
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So with this current event and the farmable Manectric EX's, I looked at that card and went dwaym. It's insane. Is this build good?:

http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/nationals/2015/decks/masters/#deck-grant-manley-manectric-ex-garbodor-masters-division-semi-finalist

Anything you guys would change? Any other deck ideas with (mega) manectric ex?
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>>24898824
Pretty neat. I think I'll start collecting all the regis. I need another reason to spend $50+ on cardboard every month now that I don't play mtg anymore
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>>24899088
The good news there aren't that many of them to collect so it won't be that expensive. The bad news is all three of them have prints.
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>>24899166
>The bad news is all three of them have prints.
>deleting unicode characters

*Star prints.
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>>24899166
4 if you include Regigigas
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>>24898824
You need to also get a Seeker.
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I've been pretty casual with TCG, but I'm looking to get in a little more now. If I'm looking to buy packs of the Break Through set, what are some of the best deals I can look for?
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>>24899271
Don't buy packs, buy singles to build decks with.
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More codes. Post pulls and I'll post another set
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>>24899397
I got them, do I have to open them right away?
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>>24899419
No, but it would be a dick move not to.
Remember to post the caps of what you get.
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>>24899441
kinda tempting to just trade it but ok

nothing that really stands out, but thanks all the same anon bro
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>>24899481
Thanks for posting. Here are the last ones I have to give away
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>>24899504
>all redeemed except one
bloody hell
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Roughly, what would the cost of a mid to high end deck be to get online, preferably in AUD. Also if anyone knows a website that I can buy a full deck if needed, that'd be great
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Where can I find the cheapest Shaymin EX online? I'm looking to buy myself a Christmas present but I wouldn't want to overpay for that little shit. Basically I don't want to go over $30 for one.
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>>24901008
ebay
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>>24901008
>>24901033
The lowest Buy it Now on eBay for a regular art Shaymin EX ROS is $32. MTG Deals on TCGPlayer has 2 for sale at $27.50. Those are your best options, unless you want to try to win an auction on eBay or drive to a card store and trade stuff in for credit.
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>>24901070
>check MTGdeals
>2 Shaymin for $50
>great, what could possibly go wrong
>$13 shipping to Europe
Fucking bullshit, an envelope with 2 top loaders doesn't cost more than $3.
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what does everyone think of this?
http://www.pokemon-trainer.com/threads/the-original-tcg-starter-pack-will-be-re-released-on-february.857/
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>>24901223
I think I want it. Now
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>>24899997
I bought around 50 boosters for $25 cad and was able to put a Lucario/Bats list together through trades. Now that I have my Shaymins I can put almost any deck together for around $5 unless the deck needs something too expensive
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Suggestions? I'm trying to maintain a toolbox.
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>>24901822
lol
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>>24901822
Even if you're going for a one-trick pony Haxorus deck, you should at least have 4 of them.
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>>24901822
err, this is just a mess and I don't know where to start.
4-2-2 is no way to run a line. Go 4-4-4 or 4-2-4 with two rare candies.
For your supporters, add two Sycamore and one more Vs. Seeker to begin with, and cut some of the two-off supporters back to one-off to make the room (Hex & Gio for sure). Evosoda is pretty much outshone by any useful ball. Drop both and replace with two more Ultra Balls.
I don't really understand the deck to be honest to fine tune it any better. These are all just obvious tips for every deck. What is your goal here?
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>opponent uses their attack but the damage counters haven't appeared on my pokemon
>opponent still has the gold stars moving around their portrait to show that it's their turn, but the game timer has not decreased
>Concede button is grayed out

Has this ever happened to any of you?
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I haven't played in two or three months. If it's not too much, can anyone tell me:

>If Breakthrough had any impact at all, or is it shit like everyone predicted
>If tournaments are still enforcing the Expanded meme
>If Breakpoint has anything amazing in it (other than the Garbodor reprint which doesn't matter in Expanded anyways), because I skimmed through it and it all looked like shit outside of some fun gimmick rogue garbage
>If Shaymin is still worth like 20 packs online

I'm tempted to log on and make a dozen shit decks with Breakthrough junk, but I might just wait until February if the game's still not too magnificent
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>>24902585
It's shit
Dong is Expanded
Golduck BREAK with energy transfer, Palkia EX with Water acceleration, Greninja BREAK, Secret Mission in supporter form, Fighting Fury Belt, and more BREAKs to come.
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>>24902613
>Dong is Expanded
???

>Golduck BREAK with energy transfer, Palkia EX with Water acceleration, Greninja BREAK, Secret Mission in supporter form, Fighting Fury Belt, and more BREAKs to come.
I don't know about Golduck or Palkia. The latter's on a Stage 2 and Palkia seems a bit slow for what little it does, but maybe I'm being closed-minded. And setting up a Stage 3 just to snipe for 90 every turn seems dodgy, especially when you need two energies in hand to do it.

Trainers seem nice, though. Thanks.
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>>24902585
BREAKthrough gave us Zoroark and Float Stone, that's about it. Magnezone is a meme deck. M-Mewtwo gets its shit pushed in by Night March. The new Gallade is only good with Maxie's.

I don't know what you mean by calling Expanded a meme

The new Muscle Band is ridiculous, and Max Elixer will be staple in every energy spam deck. Everything else is trash, except Garbador, because M-Gyarados also gets its shit pushed in by Night March.

Shaymin is still expensive.
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>>24902634
That's 90 per Greninja per turn. The new Frogadier lets you set up 3 more Frogadier straight from deck.
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>>24902636
Night march is pure cancer. Still waiting for a sacred ash that can hit both graveyard
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>>24902646
Night March isn't cancer, it wins just like any other deck does. The only deck that deserves the label "cancer" is a stall deck like Sableye/Bunnelby or Durant.

That being said, a discard disruption card would be a really nice 1-of supporter as long as it can hit any card, not just Pokemon.
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>>24902661
I'll play stall 100 times in a row if it means not playing night march. A graveyard deck in a game that can't interact with graveyard is cancer to me. I hope the new muscle band pushes it over the top and gets it banned
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>>24902671
Maybe try gitting gud friend. NM is only annoying in standard because the entire format is trash. In expanded NM is nothing special. Besides, NM and Flareon were both still really popular deck choices even when LTC existed, they just had bad Toad matchups when Toad was the meta.

On the other hand, expanded is where cancerous stall decks get to find new life. Fortunately they're inherently bad decks that rely on luck, and get absolutely destroyed by both item lock and discard acceleration. But I shouldn't have to spend the entire fifty minute round plus four more turns just to prove to my opponent their deck is cancer.

Also the new muscle band is a nice toy for Night March but it hardly affects how the deck wins and loses.
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>>24902645
That's also 2 energies per Greninja per turn. Not entirely sure how you can sustain that. And even assuming you play conservatively and only use BREAK's ability to maximize damage per energy, that's still 3 energies for a single knockout on a standard EX, and you'll need to do that three times in order to win, assuming you get a christmas hand and your opponent doesn't stop you. And it looks like the new supporters are all about hand disruption, on top of a new Garbodor reprint.

What would the deck even look like? Or any BREAK deck for that matter? 4-4-4-4 Greninja? How do you get the energies back, just max out Retrieval?

It seems really fun, but also sort of convoluted and space-heavy.
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>>24902707
I only play standard but maybe I'll give expanded a try if night march is less of an issue there
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>>24902710
Go read Fisherman and get back to me.

>>24902717
NM is still really popular in expanded but there are more deck choices available meaning, statistically you'll run into it less, and there are more decks with good NM matchups (Landorus, Toad, Blastoise).
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>>24902730
Oh man Landorus looks so good. Looks like I'm building an expanded deck next paycheck. If it offers me a good match up against NM then it's icing on the cake
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>My regice/aegislash deck isn't winning lately
sad
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>>24901223
are they up for order somewhere yet? or any news as to where they'll be available?
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Is there a practical way to counter a Mewtwo-EX/Malamar-EX/Lucario-EX decks aside from >>24902827 ?
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>>24902779
Landorus/Bats is the expanded version of Lucario/Bats but way more aggressive.
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Is there a quick way to list everything you have for trade on ptcgo? I open a shit ton of boosters every day, I don't have time to click 100+ cards every couple hours
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>>24902981
>Is there a quick way to list everything you have for trade on ptcgo?
Nope.
Have fun clicking through thousands of cards.
I'm not joking.

>I open a shit ton of boosters every day
???
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>>24902370
Block Shaymin on the first turn and all consecutive turns

Abuse Team Flare Grunt to stall for Evolution times

Sweep with Haxorus

That's it
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>>24902889
All those decks are reliant to some degree on Special Energy.
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Can anybody share their Trevenant deck? I'm getting mine ready for when its Break evolution comes out
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>>24903557
The Gengar/Trevenant deck lists are available on the Pokemon website.
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Can't wait for the new set to come out so the ladder doesn't give you breakthrough packs anymore. That set is garbage, got more value out of a 5 card phantom force booster than 5 10 card breakthrough boosters, and it was a 5 card booster with no rare
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>>24903827
At least the Holo/Rares are pretty decent this set. Raikou is good in either Manectric or memezone and Zoroark is overall great. Gengar is a fun rogue. Empoleon makes Miltank really fun. Gallade is amazing.
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>>24903863
Sure but for every one of those you get 5 braviary/smeargle/aromatisse/mr mime/chatot

I'm definitely not bitter I have 12 Mr Mimes
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>theme decks clearly built to be modified slightly due to shitty unfinished lines and lack of trainers
>no theme format where you can modify 10-15 cards of a theme deck so you have a reason to play into their bullshit
>not even one where you can buy multiple copies of the theme deck to add in cards, for things like 4x Xerneas and 2x Aromatisse Fairy decks
If you're gonna give us half-baked BREAK decks, at least let us add the fucking BREAK cards.
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>>24904188
Raichu and Noivern are good without their break
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>>24904198
Raichu's deck is total trash.
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>>24904198
They're clearly doing the same for Greninja and Luxray though.

Actually wait fuck no Raichu isn't good in Theme format at all. Its first attack hits all EXes in an EX-less format and its second attack is [L][C][C] for 70 in a deck without DCE and doing 120 for 3 energy is the standard set by the opposing deck and the lightning deck before it. Mental Might and Dark Hammer both do 80 for 3 with less setup and even more effects.
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>>24904234
It's only a stage 1 and has no retreat cost. It's still descent if you ask me
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>>24904242
Iron Tide has two basics that do 70 for 3 energy and have more HP to boot with two attacks each that can do things.
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>>24904258
It's also widely known to be one of the best theme deck available. They can't all be good
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>>24904261
Iron Tide isn't Dark Hammer, Storm Rider is still the one that has 120 for 3 energy on a basic, and even Night Striker is great, so Burning Spark really has no excuse aside from how none of this is what we were actually talking about in the first place.

Raichu Break would be great in a slow format and it would still have no retreat and 70 for 3, but actually has health
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>>24904273
In storm rider you need to nuke a guy on your bench to do damage. In this deck you do 70 with a chance of an upside. It's clearly a better deck
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>>24904188
>no theme format where you can modify 10-15 cards of a theme deck so you have a reason to play into their bullshit
The old MtG Planeswalker games had this as the exclusive way of playing. You picked from a few dozen theme decks, and each deck came with a dozen or two extra cards you could swap in.

The problem with this is that there will always be a concise set of objectively better cards that fit into the deck, with very little option for actual meta customization. It wouldn't give you more options and it wouldn't improve the decks, it would just be an entry barrier for new players that doesn't actually make the format better outside of some very specific situations.

If anything, they should edit the theme decks and make them at least mildly competitive to start off with. In Yugioh, for example, you can buy three copies of any given theme deck, mash them together, throw in a few staples you have laying around, and you're ready for a casual locals with a mild chance at winning. Meanwhile in Pokemon, you'd be lucky if you got more than one or two PLAYABLE cards out of a theme deck, much less anything amazingly viable.
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Anybody here know PTCGO prices? Is an FA Wally worth two Breakthrough packs?
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>>24904280
In the same Storm Rider there's a Stage 1 that does 80 for 3, with Dragonair who can potentially do 120 for 3, and actually has them as alternate attackers into Dragonite.

Raichu has three unfinished fire evolution lines. The Braixen does the same thing as Raichu. Stunfisk is 3 for 80 with even more HP than Raichu as a Stage 1 and a really good first attack, and both of those are shitty anyway.

I legitimately have no idea why you're defending Raichu.
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>>24904307
But the problem with this in PTCG is that they're meant to have sub-par cards you're supposed to swap out. But those sub-par cards like unfinished evolution lines can lead to entirely new styles of playing the decks.

Take Night striker. We could take out all the dark and Dragon shit and make it Gengar Bats.dek starring Mismagius. We could take out all the psychic stuff and make it Zoroark.dek with the Break. We could remove everything, focus on only Noivern, fill it with DDE, and have ourselves a nice Noivern Break deck. And none of those choices is inherently superior to the other because they all seem like decent choices for theme.
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>>24889818
Can I learn to play with the online game, or is it for people that already know how to play?
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>>24904723
It has a solid tutorial and lots of CPU opponents you can play with, as well as a theme format that can help ease you into PvP and the meta. It's also automated, so you don't have to worry too much like on some other TCG clients.

Just post here if you have any hard questions.
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Look at what I got in a single pack, the previous 5card had another ches break, and the one before that a full art mewtwo ex
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>store going out of business, all of store is half off
>all the pokemon cards are gone by the time I get there except AO Malamar packs

Fuck that, not even worth the 6 bucks.
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What do you pair BT Gallade with in Standard? The only thing I can think of is Miltank and generic Fighting shit like Hawlucha, Lando, or maybe Lucario. Is there some sick combo I should be aware of, especially with its ability? I can't think of anything that hits the topdeck other than Acro Bike.
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>>24905360
It's nice in Yveltal/Zoroark to cover the electric weakness.
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I'm just getting in to the TCG, what are staple cards in every deck that I need playsets of for expanded and standard
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>>24905589
Stick to one format if you're just starting. Preferably Standard, if only because it has a smaller card pool and a more concise, developing meta, as opposed to several years of established sets.

For Standard:
3-4 Prof Sycamore
3-6 Prof Birch/Shauna/Ace Trainer/Judge (Preference)
4 Vs Seeker
4 Ultra Ball
1-2 Lysandre
0-4 Shaymin EX (Expensive)

And Expanded is the same, but you replace the Birch/Shauna/etc with N and Colress at preference, and fit in an Ace Spec. Usually Computer Search.

After that, you have a shitload of situational tech choices. Enhanced/Crushing Hammers, Muscle Bands, Switch/Float Stone/Escape Rope, Laserbank, the list goes on.

It would be easier if you mentioned a deck you were interested in, and what format. Alternatively, just google for deck lists to get an idea of what's really good right now.
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>>24905624
Alright thanks, I'll be sure to get them ASAP, then I'll be able to look at building a bunch of decks
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>>24905793
Search your discard pile for a grass pokemon and put it into your hand or something like that, it was posted like a month ago
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>>24905793
Put 2 grass pokemon from your discard pile into your hand
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What do you use to complete Grass knockout challenges? I don't have Sceptile so I can't use that.
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>>24907553
I'm a lame guy so I just bash face with Vespiqueens. Maybe Virizion if you want to try something different
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>>24907553

xy green theme deck

it's the best theme deck, you might as well use it for grass challenges
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>>24902490
Its been fucky for me too
I was playing Trainer Challenge and it was telling me I had a spotty connection. It took 5-10 seconds to do any action on my turn
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Help?
Adding a 2nd AZ

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

Pokémon - 20

2 Giratina-EX AOR 93
2 Shaymin-EX ROS 106
4 Crawdaunt PRC 92
1 Hoopa-EX AOR 89
4 Corphish PRC 42
1 Feebas PRC 43
1 Feebas FLF 22
2 Milotic PRC 44
3 Seismitoad-EX FFI 106

Trainer Cards - 28

2 AZ PHF 91
1 Professor Birch's Observations PRC 159
1 Battle Reporter FFI 109
4 Acro Bike PRC 122
4 Super Scoop Up FFI 100
1 Super Rod BKT 149
1 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
1 Float Stone PLF 99
1 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
2 Head Ringer Team Flare Hyper Gear PHF 97
3 Ultra Ball ROS 93
1 Lysandre FLF 104
2 Muscle Band XY 121
4 VS Seeker PHF 109

Energy - 12

2 Darkness Energy XYEnergy 1
4 Double Dragon Energy ROS 97
1 Grass Energy BLWEnergy 5
1 Psychic Energy XYEnergy 8
4 Double Colorless Energy PHF 111
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>>24908866
you're going to get walled by aegislash hard
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>>24908941
I have yet to see an Aegislash in standard
And it probably is a one-of
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>>24908866
I'd try adding a teammates in there
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Some codes, post what you get!
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>>24909444
Thanks anon, at least I got a BREAK.
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>>24909444
>all taken
oh
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>>24909444
>just woke up
>see this
fuck
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>bugged out of a tournament second time in a row on my first round

fucking hell
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>>24909747
forgot pic
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How did they get away with this?
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>>24910137
with what
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>>24910142
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>>24910367
dogs and puppies lick peoples' faces
zorua is based on a fox
???
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Favorite set of XY so far? Ancient Origins had some cool shit and Roaring Skies had Shaymin, but I think Phantom Forces is my favorite overall.
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>>24910824
I'm really digging Phantom Forces as well, especially because of the Joltik from it. It's my favorite Pokemon, and to see it in a viable deck is really nice!
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What are some changes I should make to this deck?

x4 Noibat
x3 Noivern
x3 Noivern BREAK
x2 Remoraid
x2 Octillery
x1 Hydreigon EX
x1 Jirachi

x3 Crushing Hammers
x1 Enhanced Hammers
x3 Trainer's Mails
x3 Level Ball
x4 Ultra Ball
x3 Paint Roller
x3 Muscle Band
x2 Head Ringers
x4 Judge
x3 Battle Reporter
x1 Xerosic

x4 Double Dragon Energy
x3 Dark Energy
x3 Psychic Energy
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>>24911031
Hydreigon's ability is stadium dependent. Why are you running three paint roller and no stadium?
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>>24907553
Pinsir deck with Team Aqua Muk & Stadium.
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>>24911222
I'm retarded, I just noticed it. Should I play 3 Parallel City or replace Hydreigon for Super Rod?
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>>24911242
Parallel City's fine, or you can try Faded Town once it's fixed
Or just drop Hydreigon for something like Silent Lab since you're not running anything that gets hit by it, and some decks nowadays are unironically only using Shaymin as their draw power.
There's also Fairy Garden or Shadow Circle since DDE gives you those energies.

If you want to go full meme, fit in Wide Lens and a handful of Eons.
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How many boosters can be exchanged FA Shaymin EX (ROS) ?
The exchange offer for 20 ROS
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>>24910391
>the prevolution of a werewolf is a fox
okay.
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>>24911374
>werewolf
>not humans

Zoroak confirmed human pokemons
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I've been losing a lot lately, is there anyway I can improve this deck without getting more VR Seeker?
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Help me /vp/, i recently reformated my comp and redownload the game, but it doesn't work, it keeps crashing, not even repairing it with the installer makes it work. Maybe i am missing a different program that makes it work?
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>>24911413
This deck is an absolute mess. I can tell you're just starting off so you probably don't have too many cards, but this is barely coherent. There are too many problems; completely random Pokemon and Trainer lineup, very few copies of these cards, lots of situational and random junk cards, virtually no consistency options, the list goes on. I would recommend you go look at what a deck should look like on some forum or website, then start from scratch.

If you really want help here, what kind of deck were you trying to make in the first place? A Metagross deck? Something with Regice?
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>>24911428
Something something anti-EX. I tried without the metagross and Octillery then proceed to get rekt anyways.
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>>24911437
>anti-EX
Manectric EX / Regice is a very competitive deck right now that does that. You already have two Regice, and you can get two Manectric from the ladder, so you're halfway there.
Or try Pyroar with generic Fire cards. Entei, Charizard EX, Typhlosion, whatever.
Beautifly with M Sceptile works too.

Other than that, there aren't any viable options, and it's not even that great anymore with the presence of new non-EX options in Standard. You can try playing Expanded to access Suicune/Sigilyph, but whatever.
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>>24911459
I actually got the manectrics and 3 Regice so I guess I can try a electric/water deck.

Also what new-EX options are there? So far, the only ones I saw was Night March and the Zubat-Gobat-Crobat spam (no idea how to counter the latter).
>>24911466
>>>/lit/
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>>24911489
>Also what new-EX options are there?
A bunch. There are a shitload of cards from the past few packs that are more than usable, especially on PTCGO of all places. Lots of them are budget, too.

Chances are you can pick any given Rare from a pack and build a deck around it. You'll even end up with a positive winrate on the ladder.

It's more important that your deck is well-built.
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>>24911502
What packs? What the hell pokemon are viable? I'm a retard at reading what abilities are actually good pls spoonfeed me.
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>>24911514
http://forums.sixprizes.com/c/deck/standard
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/metagame-deck-discussion.250/
or just google for "[your favorite pokemon] deck" and filter for date, there are way too many cards for this level of spoonfeeding
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>>24889818
Guys I have the complete collection of the first edition of the Pokémon cards, the ones in pic related (almost complete anyway)
Are they worth something?
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>>24911530
thanks family
I tried looking through that but all I saw was a sea of EX decks and gave up. I guess I'll try again.
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>>24911534
What's wrong with EX?
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>>24911533
>That art
shit compared to the new Machoke and Machamp ones.
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>>24911535
I figured I'll have a hard time collecting EXs for a good deck instead of using what I currently have. The Sceptile-EXs are new addition thanks to Binder Guy.
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>>24911539
Most EXs aren't worth more than 2-3 packs at most, and you can probably get them for less. That's how much the better non-EXs are worth.
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>>24911534
Don't be a "lol EXs is bad" retard. Use the cards needed to make your decks work, EX or non-EX. If you really want some non-EX Pokémon that feature in some top decks, Vespiquen, Zoroark, Gallade, Yveltal, Regice, Articuno, Raikou, Entei, Vileplume, Miltank, Bronzong, Raichu, Milotic, Magnezone, the Crobat line and the Night March crew all have their uses.
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>>24911549
Is bulbapedia's pack list reliable for seeing where I can get these cards?
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>>24911536
I like it, post the newer ones
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>>24911555
Search them inside PTCGO, tick the "show not-owned" option if necessary.
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>>24911555
Yeah, but why would you do that? You should never open packs if you're after cards. You'll never get what you want or need, and you definitely won't get enough copies of it.
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>>24911563
well, I don't even know what I want atm and what's on market are usually something like 1 pack which is kinda expensive
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>>24911557
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>>24889818
>Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas?
I got the Iron Tide theme deck. It's actually pretty good.
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>>24911570
>well, I don't even know what I want atm
Just list or look up some of your favorite Pokemon.

>what's on market are usually something like 1 pack which is kinda expensive
Because you're allowed to post anything on the public trade. If I want to make a listing offering my 1x Pidgey for 50x Shaymin EX Full Art, I can do it.

And guess what? No one's going to take it. It's going to stay there until the time's up, where everyone can see it.

But if I post a fair trade, guess what happens? People take it. Quickly. So it won't be listed.

Do you get it? The listings you see are all bad because people take the fair trades in the first few minutes they're up. If you want to do a public trade, make the offers yourself. Otherwise you're forced to refresh and try and snipe all the 7:59 trades, which is autistic as fuck with how long it takes.
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>>24911599
Alright I guess I can try that thanks.
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Come on, nobody can help me? the game keeps crashing, i can open it.
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>>24911691
*can't
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>>24911691
Upgrade your PC
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>>24911740
Dude, it was just reformatted yesterday, with windows 7 as before, maybe i am missing certain plugin?
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>>24911691

Have you tried reinstalling the client?
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>>24911748
>>24911777
Don't reinstall it by uninstalling.
Under your list of programs, click CHANGE instead of uninstall, then uninstall it through there. Then download the installer again and work from there.
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>>24911459

AT Entei with Charizard EX (Combustion Blast) is good. You can use Pyroar with AT Entei if you want. Typhlosion, ah he's had a shit time. Didn't see another print from HGSS until now and gets a card even the BREAKthrough player's guide didn't know what to do with.

and then the nips decided they wanted a BREAK evolution for one of the only Pokemon that never needed one. Crobat. Can't wait for Vespiquen BREAK, Gallade BREAK and Bronzong BREAK before they discontinue the mechanic.
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>>24911841
I don't know why people insist on the Charizard tech in fire decks. It's such a heavy card.

Typhlosion actually isn't the worst. He's hilarious in some turbo builds to the point where you can swing for 240 first turn, and I've seen him used alongside Entei or Pyroar.
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>>24911859

Maybe I'm undervaluing Flare Destroy or being able to really filter through your deck I guess, but I'd really have liked to have seen a BREAK evo where it has an ability which puts 2 cards from discard to top of deck. Really wouldn't have broken it given it's a stage 3 that can't be Archie/Maxie'd but I guess the nips think BREAKs are only meant for buffing things already top tier. No wonder PCL is always so confused.

Speaking of Flare Destroy, is there actually anything else in Standard that does as much damage while acting as Energy Removal?
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>>24911031
Get some Supersonic Noibat.
Those are the best.
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>>24911878
>Maybe I'm undervaluing Flare Destroy
It's more about Massive Eruption, actually. Only one energy, can hit for 160 before Band off two mills and KOs anything short of Wailord if you mill three, sets up Blacksmith, etc. They've also been beefing up Stage 2s in general so it's sitting on 150 HP, which is nice.

>Speaking of Flare Destroy, is there actually anything else in Standard that does as much damage while acting as Energy Removal?
M Lucario hits for 140 and removes an energy.
Sharpedo EX hits for 100.
You then have a few other Pokemon swinging for 70 or 80 and discarding.
Notably, PC Kingdra hitting for 70 off one DCE and discarding up to two energies, and PHF Feraligatr lets you keep flipping until you get tails, then you discard that many off your opponent. It also has a viable second attack.

The problem is that discarding energies is pointless if you're also one-shotting them.
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>>24911533
>I have the complete collection of the first edition of the Pokémon cards
Is it really? or is it just the 1st Machamp card?
Got post pics man.
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>>24911937
>that ability and move
power creep really ruined pokemon tcg
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>>24911841
Is Charizard better than Pyroar? I'm running an Entei list currently and I'm trying to make it as good as possible
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>>24911948
Power creep is irrelevant in a rotation-based meta.
Unless you're talking about how the numbers were expanded for a card's parameters, which is silly considering the better design liberties you get from having more space to work with. Not to mention how we've recessed in how powerful the trainers are.
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>>24898824
I don't understand why the Mewtwo break din't have any Mew cards?

How can you have Mewtwo, with out Mew?
Would have replace Cresselia with Mew, so Mew would have been on the SR Red Mewtwo card.
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>>24898824
You need a lot of japs promos
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>>24911374
Zorro is spanish for fox
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>>24911959
This guy gets it. Powercreep doesn't exist in pokemon. Only in unlimited card games does it reaoly exist... like yu-gi-oh
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>>24911437
I am guessing you are the water/steel guy posting on other forums too.

You need 3-4 copies of the important cards in your deck so that you can actually hit them when you want them. 3-4 Vs Seeker & Sycamore are a must although you can crutch fix the lack of Sycamore with Birch/Shauna/Judge until you get some.

But even your pokemon lines are weird pyramids. Ignore the theme builds - these need to be fat lines consistently wide like, for this deck a 2-2 Octillery. A 3-3-3 Metagross (or 3-1-3 if you can get 2 rare candies). Instead of one-off cards like Aegislash/Glalie/Regice, you probably want at least 2-offs or even 3.

Red card, Exp Share, Giovanni, Ticket, Roller Skates, Mountain Ring, Sparkling Robe are all dead cards in most decks unless you have a very good reason to play them - here they are just wasting space. Drop those and look for more Vs. Seekers, Sycamore, Dive balls, Ultra Ball, Trainer Mail, Rough Seas.

Even after all that this deck will still be a hot mess, but at least it'll be a consistent one.
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>>24912180
It does exist on a smaller scale. It was most noticeable in the BW block, where they just had to keep making stronger and stronger Pokemon to keep the old stronger Pokemon in check.
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>>24912324
Explain the powercreep that is happening.
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>>24912266
I'm not the guy posting on the other forums
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>>24912266
Also I use Red Card on people who likes to spam draw cards till they have like 10+ on hand, so it's pretty situational; same for Sparkling Robes against mostly Dark element decks that likes to Confuse or Sleep me
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9.5/10 bundle.
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XY109
Ninjask– Grass– HP90
Stage 1 – Evolves from Nincada

Ability: かそく (Acceleration)
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may attach an Energy card from your hand to this Pokemon.

[C] バトンタッチ (Baton Touch): Switch this Pokemon with 1 of your Benched Pokemon. Then, move all Energy attached to this Pokemon to your Active Pokemon.

Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 0


XY110
Shedinja– Psychic– HP50
Stage 1 – Evolves from Nincada

Ability: ふしぎなまもり (Mysterious Protection)
At any time between turns, remove all damage counters from this Pokemon.

[C] うらみ (Spite): 30 damage. During your opponent's next turn, any damage done by attacks from the Defending Pokemon is reduced by 50 (before applying Weakness and Resistance).

Weakness: none
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1

neat
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>>24912677
Shedinja with Hard Charm or Assault Vest could be a nice meme
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>>24912677
source? Pokebeach doesn't have them yet
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>>24912704
seems to be easily rekt by indirect damage like zubat or mewtwo's damage change through
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>>24912471
Never mind.
The bundle doesn't give the card sleeve for some reason.
Odds are it will be fixed soon.
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>>24911963
Probably because they're saving Mew and the other mythical Pokemon for their respective boxes in 2016.
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>>24912449
use judge instead.
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>>24912012
I need 6: Rota's Mew, ____'s Mew, the McDonalds Mew, a Mew ex (alone worth $200), a PCG-P promo, and the movie promo. The problem is they're all really expensive. And while there are listings on eBay for most of these, even just like one or two, I'd rather not have to buy them. The three Jap promos I do have I bought from a vendor at Ft. Wayne regionals. And to be honest the only one I really, really want is the McDonald's Mew.

>American McDonalds give out shitty reprints and Chinese-made figurines
>Japanese McDonald's give out promos that end up being worth over $50

what a world
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Is pokemon draft any fun? My mtg group is starting to play pokemon and a draft would be a good opportunity for everyone to get cards
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>>24912118
Good thing it aint a spic game, then
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