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OLD THREAD: >>24864365
New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW
News/Legal List/Set scans/etc
>http://pokebeach.com/
How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>unlock all locked cards in the three theme decks you're given at the start
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>enter theme tournaments with basic green and get both hitters prized
>enter standard/expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes a tradable pack
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>use the Trade section to trade the packs and chests for the shit you need
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ for a list of viable decks or ask here
Your old cards are probably worthless.
To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
To get a general idea about what is strong in the Meta go there
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/metagame-deck-discussion.250/
Pack codes are worth about 15-30 cents while other codes are worth around a dollar or two.
Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Never post them as text, even if they're missing a letter/number
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered
If you're interested in working on /vp/'s custom TCG, find their general in the catalog and post there.
TotT: Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas?And no, cash/gift cards/gift certificates don't count.
>>24889818
Pikachu box, pulled SREnergy Retrieval.
>>24889818
>Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas?
No
>>24889818
>Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas?
4 Booster Boxes (Primal Clash, Roaring Skies and 2 BREAKthrough).
Also I get a few Legendary Treasures (the best expansion) booster packs.
Now, would anyone disapprove of me continuing mycode giveaway?
Oh, and...
>TOTT
Nope.Oh, and does anyone know of any good places to pick up TCG packs/value boxes in Vancouver?
>>24889826
>>24889863
Nice.
>>24889828
That sucks, butnotice how the TotT doesn't mention gifts that you give yourself?
>>24889902
>>24889818
Just the delibird + 5 chests and some of your codes anon
Hey guys, newfag to PTCGO
I have 600 coins, what should I buy from the store?
A code drop's coming in a minute, get ready!
>>24890033
Do you already have Dark Hammer for Theme tournaments? If you don't, I suggest picking that up.
And remember, post what you get!
>>24890064
>>24890079
Bottom code entered and by the time I hit claim now, it was already used.... ;_;
>>24890079
are you posting any more codes tonight?also, does anyone else always have trouble loading assets?
to the anon getting vending machine cards, where do you buy them from?
>>24890079
got this one, thanks anon
>>24890079
Redeemed top one...nothing happened?
It gave me a message like
Code.redeem.message or something like that
>>24890079
Got a N pack and the Spectile deck, thanks for the Christmas gifts binder guy
>>24890101
I already redeemed them sorry
>>24890101
Might have gotten sniped like I did
Oh, and this was the only UR I got from the free chests.
Another code drop in in a minute.
>>24890087
Yep, I got two more after the next one.
>>24890113
>>24890119
Thanks Binder Guy
Another code drop in a minute.
>>24890119
Thanks man of binders
>>24890133
>>24890119
>Petalburg bundle pack
thanks man
And the final code drop of the night is happening in a minute.
>>24890139
>Got another N pack
thanks, the other guys are getting fast now
>>24890139
Thanks man!
>>24890144
And there we go!
>>24890151
>all gone in 51 seconds
where do you get the gym packs?
>>24890151
Thank you!
>>24890151
>all redeemed
wow
>>24890160
gotta go fast
>>24890151
thanks for the gifts man
And now I'm off to bed, I'll see you all tomorrow or the day after (depending on if I decide to take advantage of Boxing Day sales or not).
And I might do another code giveaway when I return.
>>24890156
The gym packs are leftovers from the League I manage, I also have tons of leftover promo holos (Energy, Trainers, and some Pokemon thanks my League also getting the LC promos.) and badge patches.
i have like twelve codes
i'll post them tomorrow though
>>24890178
>tomorrow
anon don't do this, I'll be stuck here for the rest of the day
I'm thinking of getting my siblings some stuff for all the TCG stuff they got, but I don't play it myself.
What do people typically use for counters and randomizers? Any good sets I can buy?
Also would you recommend getting any Elite Trainer boxes (if so, which)? I figure between the other stuff it comes with, it will last them until they decide they want to continue or drop the hobby; I'll probably need to get them a binder down the line.
>>24890178
make a now thread I just got another pack
Just ordered the two BreakTHROUGH theme decks for my nephews. They both seem pretty shit but the Gengar seems fun so I'll post the codes in here once they arrive.
>1st place in my first tourney
aw yiss
>mfw running Noivern BREAK.dek
I just love watching my opponents rip their hair out when their attacks do nothing to me but they're forced to discard Energy or damage their own Pokemon...
>>24891874
>Standard
Try Expanded next time, I just got 1st with a Sceptile-EX/Ariados deck.
And if you're curious, my final opponent was running a Landorus-EX deck.
>>24891957
Cool story bro. I'll stick to standard still
>>24891957
now that you're here binder guy, can you tell me if these trades are worth it:
Steven(mine) -> 1 XY Break pack
4 XY Break pack (mine) -> Aegislash-EX
also what's a good trade to get Suicune?
>>24892114
>Steven for a pack.
You might want to specify which print, the RSK print is worth about a third of a pack and the FA is worth three packs.
>4 XY Break pack for Aegislash-EX.
That's pretty fair.
>What's a a fair trade for Suicune?
Suicune is worth a pack.
>>24892174
this one
also I only find op Suicunes wtf
How do I report someone doing nothing but stalling? He's just clicking not afk and has been for 5 minutes now.
>>24892465
screencaps & submit a report on the site is the only way. Cos the devs are idiots.
>>24892575
Makes sense, he eventually timed out anyway.
>>24892260
>full art for one pack
do it
What's the best use for coins on PTCGO?
>>24893122
entering tournaments to get tournament tickets
>>24893122
what above anon said is true.
But do keep a solid seed fund of 1000-2000 there for bundles that are sometimes worthwhile to the point you might want to pick up four of them.
>buy the primal clash bundle on a whim
>Wailord-EX, SR Enhanced Hammer and AT Medicham
Hey anons, I'm planning ahead for the next expansion and want to build something around the new Durant.
> [G] Mountain Munch 10
>Discard the Top card of your opponent's deck
>[G][C] Grind Down
>f this Pokémon has any damage counters on it, discard the top 4 cards of your opponent's deck.
Discard the top card of your opponent's deck.
I'm thinking of using rainbow energy and EXP share, but I've been out of the meta for the last two expansions so are there any cards that would work well around its second attack?
>>24893619
Houndoom/Bunnelby is better and doesn't rely on a 60 HP mon that needs two energy installs.
>>24893619
>Rainbow Energy
>EXP Share
Sorry, but EXP Share only works with Basic Energies
Got a question here
Jirachi XY-ROS has the Doom Desire attack which says
> [M] [C] Doom Desire
Discard all Energy attached to this Pokémon. The Defending Pokémon is Knocked Out at the end of your opponent's next turn.
Does this mean, if i use switch, the new active pokemon dies at the end of my turn ?
>>24894079
Nope, Doom Desire's effect is applied on your Active Pokemon at the time of the attack. If you switch it out, the effect is gone (just like all other attacks that have effects on your Active Pokemon)
>>24894079
I do not know if it's the correct ruling (since the client is often wrong), but if attacked by this, you can retreat before you're due to get knocked out and it nullifies the move entirely.
By the wording, you'd think it should get knocked out on the bench regardless.
>>24894102
Yeah, i can't find any sort of information about this because i use 3 Jirachi XY-ROS on a budget deck and i never played this deck on PTCGO
>>24893696
You exp share grass energy OR just sceptile it.
>>24893619
Magma base?
Is there anybody even comparable to Jwittz's Prof-It series or TTC in terms of pokemon content? I read The Charizard Lounge's stuff a lot of the time and shelling out money for a subscription site's articles just doesn't feel right.
I posted some codes last thread and said please post pulls, I even went as far as to call you my pizanos. But some cuckolding individual sniped all the codes and didn't even post pulls. Truly a scumbag thing to do. The lowest of the low. A bottom feeder.
That said, Please post pulls pizanos.
>>24894423
Thanks for the EX bro.
>>24894423
Thanks!
>browsing trades
>someone wanted a Shaymin + Lucario for their FA Shaymin
Finally a good deal.
My only regret is not having room for Steven.
I haven't played since the shit client overhaul. Has anything been fixed yet?
>>24895119
Doesn't look like and it took me a solid 30s to find a ladder opponent, so I guess the game is finally dead. Shame.
Have any of you guys ever lost sleep over tcgo? I've only been playing it seriously for a few (4) months and recently I've been loading sleep over it. Not even playing, just thinking about deck building and trades. I think I need to take a break, but it is too difficult to quit. I need help.
please do not use Vileplume with if you don't have a means to land a decisive strike
>Just won someone who used 2 malamar EX and 1 sharpedo ex with a shitty deck.
Feels good man.
>>24894423
How come you can give away so many codes, my now more emotional christmas spirit?
are you perhapsconsiderably wealthy?
Has anyone got this working on 64-bit Linux with Wine? I'm having a hell of a time of it.
>opponent uses teammates 3 times in the game
>still win
Man this feels good. I hate those two little bitches so much
>>24896494
>That feel when you KO your opponent's Active Pokemon with a passive status effect and they proceed to flip their shit and threaten to report you for cheating when they can't play Teammates.
>>24895119
Many bug fixes, but many more bugs appeared.
Animations are slightly faster. There will never be an option to disable them.
>>24895958
Cause' the only hobbies I have that consume money are Pkmn cards(of which i buy too many), bonkles, ackshin figures, and food. And i have a decent paying job and am in debt to no man, except my father whom I owe $10 USD.
>>24895977
It all just worked for me. I used playonlinux though.
Dont be a Jew, post your pullsplease
Thanks my dude! (the other two packs are still up for grabs!)
>>24898166
Thanks.
>>24898166
Thanks!
How does my list look?
>>24889818
TotT: Nah, but I did buy myself a 3-3 line of Mega Manectric..
>>24898434
I would drop a lightening energy for a DCE
>>24898434
>no ultra balls
>no level balls
>>24898434
Replace 4-4 Raichu line and a couple Electric energies for with 3-3-2 Crobat line, some Super Scoop Ups and one AZ. Replace 2-2 Octillery line with 2 Shaymin EX. Replace 2 Professor Birch's Observations and 1 Skyla with 3 Trainer's Mail. Replace 3 Sky Field with 2 Parallel City. Replace 3 Muscle Band with 2-3 Head Ringer. Remove Escape Rope, Rough Seas and DCE for 3 Acro Bike.
>>24898434
>>24898737
Follow up:
Add 1 Hoopa EX, 4 Ultra Ball and 2-3 Level Ball.
My collection is finallyalmostfinished
>>24898824
Damn, I should do that for my favorite Pokemon. How much did all that cost you?
>>24898946
>How much did all that cost you?
The nice thing is I didn't have to spend a whole lot of actual cash on my collection. I play competitively and do a lot of trading/selling, and my local card store lets me sort product for them for store credit. So all of the more expensive cards, even the Japanese ones, I either traded for or used store credit/tournament winnings on.
The whole collection is worth roughly $250, I'd guess I probably spent $20-30 on it max.
So with this current event and the farmable Manectric EX's, I looked at that card and went dwaym. It's insane. Is this build good?:
http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/nationals/2015/decks/masters/#deck-grant-manley-manectric-ex-garbodor-masters-division-semi-finalist
Anything you guys would change? Any other deck ideas with (mega) manectric ex?
>>24898824
Pretty neat. I think I'll start collecting all the regis. I need another reason to spend $50+ on cardboard every month now that I don't play mtg anymore
>>24899088
The good news there aren't that many of them to collect so it won't be that expensive.The bad news is all three of them have prints.
>>24899166
>The bad news is all three of them have prints.
>deleting unicode characters
*Star prints.
>>24899166
4 if you include Regigigas
>>24898824
You need to also get a Seeker.
I've been pretty casual with TCG, but I'm looking to get in a little more now. If I'm looking to buy packs of the Break Through set, what are some of the best deals I can look for?
>>24899271
Don't buy packs, buy singles to build decks with.
More codes. Post pulls and I'll post another set
>>24899397
I got them, do I have toopenthem right away?
>>24899419
No, but it would be a dick move not to.
Remember to post the caps of what you get.
>>24899441
kinda tempting to justtradeit but ok
nothing that really stands out, but thanks all the same anon bro
>>24899481
Thanks for posting. Here are the last ones I have to give away
>>24899504
>all redeemed except one
bloody hell
Roughly, what would the cost of a mid to high end deck be to get online, preferably in AUD. Also if anyone knows a website that I can buy a full deck if needed, that'd be great
Where can I find the cheapest Shaymin EX online? I'm looking to buy myself a Christmas present but I wouldn't want to overpay for that little shit. Basically I don't want to go over $30 for one.
>>24901008
ebay
>>24901008
>>24901033
The lowest Buy it Now on eBay for a regular art Shaymin EX ROS is $32. MTG Deals on TCGPlayer has 2 for sale at $27.50. Those are your best options, unless you want to try to win an auction on eBay or drive to a card store and trade stuff in for credit.
>>24901070
>check MTGdeals
>2 Shaymin for $50
>great, what could possibly go wrong
>$13 shipping to Europe
Fucking bullshit, an envelope with 2 top loaders doesn't cost more than $3.
what does everyone think of this?
http://www.pokemon-trainer.com/threads/the-original-tcg-starter-pack-will-be-re-released-on-february.857/
>>24901223
I think I want it. Now
>>24899997
I bought around 50 boosters for $25 cad and was able to put a Lucario/Bats list together through trades. Now that I have my Shaymins I can put almost any deck together for around $5 unless the deck needs something too expensive
Suggestions? I'm trying to maintain a toolbox.
>>24901822
lol
>>24901822
Even if you're going for a one-trick pony Haxorus deck, you should at least have 4 of them.
>>24901822
err, this is just a mess and I don't know where to start.
4-2-2 is no way to run a line. Go 4-4-4 or 4-2-4 with two rare candies.
For your supporters, add two Sycamore and one more Vs. Seeker to begin with, and cut some of the two-off supporters back to one-off to make the room (Hex & Gio for sure). Evosoda is pretty much outshone by any useful ball. Drop both and replace with two more Ultra Balls.
I don't really understand the deck to be honest to fine tune it any better. These are all just obvious tips for every deck. What is your goal here?
>opponent uses their attack but the damage counters haven't appeared on my pokemon
>opponent still has the gold stars moving around their portrait to show that it's their turn, but the game timer has not decreased
>Concede button is grayed out
Has this ever happened to any of you?
I haven't played in two or three months. If it's not too much, can anyone tell me:
>If Breakthrough had any impact at all, or is it shit like everyone predicted
>If tournaments are still enforcing the Expanded meme
>If Breakpoint has anything amazing in it (other than the Garbodor reprint which doesn't matter in Expanded anyways), because I skimmed through it and it all looked like shit outside of some fun gimmick rogue garbage
>If Shaymin is still worth like 20 packs online
I'm tempted to log on and make a dozen shit decks with Breakthrough junk, but I might just wait until February if the game's still not too magnificent
>>24902585
It's shit
Dong is Expanded
Golduck BREAK with energy transfer, Palkia EX with Water acceleration, Greninja BREAK, Secret Mission in supporter form, Fighting Fury Belt, and more BREAKs to come.
>>24902613
>Dong is Expanded
???
>Golduck BREAK with energy transfer, Palkia EX with Water acceleration, Greninja BREAK, Secret Mission in supporter form, Fighting Fury Belt, and more BREAKs to come.
I don't know about Golduck or Palkia. The latter's on a Stage 2 and Palkia seems a bit slow for what little it does, but maybe I'm being closed-minded. And setting up a Stage 3 just to snipe for 90 every turn seems dodgy, especially when you need two energies in hand to do it.
Trainers seem nice, though. Thanks.
>>24902585
BREAKthrough gave us Zoroark and Float Stone, that's about it. Magnezone is a meme deck. M-Mewtwo gets its shit pushed in by Night March. The new Gallade is only good with Maxie's.
I don't know what you mean by calling Expanded a meme
The new Muscle Band is ridiculous, and Max Elixer will be staple in every energy spam deck. Everything else is trash, except Garbador, because M-Gyarados also gets its shit pushed in by Night March.
Shaymin is still expensive.
>>24902634
That's 90 per Greninja per turn. The new Frogadier lets you set up 3 more Frogadier straight from deck.
>>24902636
Night march is pure cancer. Still waiting for a sacred ash that can hit both graveyard
>>24902646
Night March isn't cancer, it wins just like any other deck does. The only deck that deserves the label "cancer" is a stall deck like Sableye/Bunnelby or Durant.
That being said, a discard disruption card would be a really nice 1-of supporter as long as it can hit any card, not just Pokemon.
>>24902661
I'll play stall 100 times in a row if it means not playing night march. A graveyard deck in a game that can't interact with graveyard is cancer to me. I hope the new muscle band pushes it over the top and gets it banned
>>24902671
Maybe try gitting gud friend. NM is only annoying in standard because the entire format is trash. In expanded NM is nothing special. Besides, NM and Flareon were both still really popular deck choices even when LTC existed, they just had bad Toad matchups when Toad was the meta.
On the other hand, expanded is where cancerous stall decks get to find new life. Fortunately they're inherently bad decks that rely on luck, and get absolutely destroyed by both item lock and discard acceleration. But I shouldn't have to spend the entire fifty minute round plus four more turns just to prove to my opponent their deck is cancer.
Also the new muscle band is a nice toy for Night March but it hardly affects how the deck wins and loses.
>>24902645
That's also 2 energies per Greninja per turn. Not entirely sure how you can sustain that. And even assuming you play conservatively and only use BREAK's ability to maximize damage per energy, that's still 3 energies for a single knockout on a standard EX, and you'll need to do that three times in order to win, assuming you get a christmas hand and your opponent doesn't stop you. And it looks like the new supporters are all about hand disruption, on top of a new Garbodor reprint.
What would the deck even look like? Or any BREAK deck for that matter? 4-4-4-4 Greninja? How do you get the energies back, just max out Retrieval?
It seems really fun, but also sort of convoluted and space-heavy.
>>24902707
I only play standard but maybe I'll give expanded a try if night march is less of an issue there
>>24902710
Go read Fisherman and get back to me.
>>24902717
NM is still really popular in expanded but there are more deck choices available meaning, statistically you'll run into it less, and there are more decks with good NM matchups (Landorus, Toad, Blastoise).
>>24902730
Oh man Landorus looks so good. Looks like I'm building an expanded deck next paycheck. If it offers me a good match up against NM then it's icing on the cake
>My regice/aegislash deck isn't winning lately
sad
>>24901223
are they up for order somewhere yet? or any news as to where they'll be available?
Is there a practical way to counter a Mewtwo-EX/Malamar-EX/Lucario-EX decks aside from >>24902827 ?
>>24902779
Landorus/Bats is the expanded version of Lucario/Bats but way more aggressive.
Is there a quick way to list everything you have for trade on ptcgo? I open a shit ton of boosters every day, I don't have time to click 100+ cards every couple hours
>>24902981
>Is there a quick way to list everything you have for trade on ptcgo?
Nope.
Have fun clicking through thousands of cards.
I'm not joking.
>I open a shit ton of boosters every day
???
>>24902370
Block Shaymin on the first turn and all consecutive turns
Abuse Team Flare Grunt to stall for Evolution times
Sweep with Haxorus
That's it
>>24902889
All those decks are reliant to some degree on Special Energy.
Can anybody share their Trevenant deck? I'm getting mine ready for when its Break evolution comes out
>>24903557
The Gengar/Trevenant deck lists are available on the Pokemon website.
Can't wait for the new set to come out so the ladder doesn't give you breakthrough packs anymore. That set is garbage, got more value out of a 5 card phantom force booster than 5 10 card breakthrough boosters, and it was a 5 card booster with no rare
>>24903827
At least the Holo/Rares are pretty decent this set. Raikou is good in either Manectric or memezone and Zoroark is overall great. Gengar is a fun rogue. Empoleon makes Miltank really fun. Gallade is amazing.
>>24903863
Sure but for every one of those you get 5 braviary/smeargle/aromatisse/mr mime/chatot
I'm definitely not bitter I have 12 Mr Mimes
>theme decks clearly built to be modified slightly due to shitty unfinished lines and lack of trainers
>no theme format where you can modify 10-15 cards of a theme deck so you have a reason to play into their bullshit
>not even one where you can buy multiple copies of the theme deck to add in cards, for things like 4x Xerneas and 2x Aromatisse Fairy decks
If you're gonna give us half-baked BREAK decks, at least let us add the fucking BREAK cards.
>>24904188
Raichu and Noivern are good without their break
>>24904198
Raichu's deck is total trash.
>>24904198
They're clearly doing the same for Greninja and Luxray though.
Actually wait fuck no Raichu isn't good in Theme format at all. Its first attack hits all EXes in an EX-less format and its second attack is [L][C][C] for 70 in a deck without DCE and doing 120 for 3 energy is the standard set by the opposing deck and the lightning deck before it. Mental Might and Dark Hammer both do 80 for 3 with less setup and even more effects.
>>24904234
It's only a stage 1 and has no retreat cost. It's still descent if you ask me
>>24904242
Iron Tide has two basics that do 70 for 3 energy and have more HP to boot with two attacks each that can do things.
>>24904258
It's also widely known to be one of the best theme deck available. They can't all be good
>>24904261
Iron Tide isn't Dark Hammer, Storm Rider is still the one that has 120 for 3 energy on a basic, and even Night Striker is great, so Burning Spark really has no excuse aside from how none of this is what we were actually talking about in the first place.
Raichu Break would be great in a slow format and it would still have no retreat and 70 for 3, but actually has health
>>24904273
In storm rider you need to nuke a guy on your bench to do damage. In this deck you do 70 with a chance of an upside. It's clearly a better deck
>>24904188
>no theme format where you can modify 10-15 cards of a theme deck so you have a reason to play into their bullshit
The old MtG Planeswalker games had this as the exclusive way of playing. You picked from a few dozen theme decks, and each deck came with a dozen or two extra cards you could swap in.
The problem with this is that there will always be a concise set of objectively better cards that fit into the deck, with very little option for actual meta customization. It wouldn't give you more options and it wouldn't improve the decks, it would just be an entry barrier for new players that doesn't actually make the format better outside of some very specific situations.
If anything, they should edit the theme decks and make them at least mildly competitive to start off with. In Yugioh, for example, you can buy three copies of any given theme deck, mash them together, throw in a few staples you have laying around, and you're ready for a casual locals with a mild chance at winning. Meanwhile in Pokemon, you'd be lucky if you got more than one or two PLAYABLE cards out of a theme deck, much less anything amazingly viable.
Anybody here know PTCGO prices? Is an FA Wally worth two Breakthrough packs?
>>24904280
In the same Storm Rider there's a Stage 1 that does 80 for 3, with Dragonair who can potentially do 120 for 3, and actually has them as alternate attackers into Dragonite.
Raichu has three unfinished fire evolution lines. The Braixen does the same thing as Raichu. Stunfisk is 3 for 80 with even more HP than Raichu as a Stage 1 and a really good first attack, and both of those are shitty anyway.
I legitimately have no idea why you're defending Raichu.
>>24904307
But the problem with this in PTCG is that they're meant to have sub-par cards you're supposed to swap out. But those sub-par cards like unfinished evolution lines can lead to entirely new styles of playing the decks.
Take Night striker. We could take out all the dark and Dragon shit and make it Gengar Bats.dek starring Mismagius. We could take out all the psychic stuff and make it Zoroark.dek with the Break. We could remove everything, focus on only Noivern, fill it with DDE, and have ourselves a nice Noivern Break deck. And none of those choices is inherently superior to the other because they all seem like decent choices for theme.
>>24889818
Can I learn to play with the online game, or is it for people that already know how to play?
>>24904723
It has a solid tutorial and lots of CPU opponents you can play with, as well as a theme format that can help ease you into PvP and the meta. It's also automated, so you don't have to worry too much like on some other TCG clients.
Just post here if you have any hard questions.
Look at what I got in a single pack, the previous 5card had another ches break, and the one before that a full art mewtwo ex
>store going out of business, all of store is half off
>all the pokemon cards are gone by the time I get there except AO Malamar packs
Fuck that, not even worth the 6 bucks.
What do you pair BT Gallade with in Standard? The only thing I can think of is Miltank and generic Fighting shit like Hawlucha, Lando, or maybe Lucario. Is there some sick combo I should be aware of, especially with its ability? I can't think of anything that hits the topdeck other than Acro Bike.
>>24905360
It's nice in Yveltal/Zoroark to cover the electric weakness.
I'm just getting in to the TCG, what are staple cards in every deck that I need playsets of for expanded and standard
>>24905589
Stick to one format if you're just starting. Preferably Standard, if only because it has a smaller card pool and a more concise, developing meta, as opposed to several years of established sets.
For Standard:
3-4 Prof Sycamore
3-6 Prof Birch/Shauna/Ace Trainer/Judge (Preference)
4 Vs Seeker
4 Ultra Ball
1-2 Lysandre
0-4 Shaymin EX (Expensive)
And Expanded is the same, but you replace the Birch/Shauna/etc with N and Colress at preference, and fit in an Ace Spec. Usually Computer Search.
After that, you have a shitload of situational tech choices. Enhanced/Crushing Hammers, Muscle Bands, Switch/Float Stone/Escape Rope, Laserbank, the list goes on.
It would be easier if you mentioned a deck you were interested in, and what format. Alternatively, just google for deck lists to get an idea of what's really good right now.
>>24905624
Alright thanks, I'll be sure to get them ASAP, then I'll be able to look at building a bunch of decks
Translation pending.
>>24905793
Search your discard pile for a grass pokemon and put it into your hand or something like that, it was posted like a month ago
>>24905793
Put 2 grass pokemon from your discard pile into your hand
What do you use to complete Grass knockout challenges? I don't have Sceptile so I can't use that.
>>24907553
I'm a lame guy so I just bash face with Vespiqueens. Maybe Virizion if you want to try something different
>>24907553
xy green theme deck
it's the best theme deck, you might as well use it for grass challenges
>>24902490
Its been fucky for me too
I was playing Trainer Challenge and it was telling me I had a spotty connection. It took 5-10 seconds to do any action on my turn
Help?
Adding a 2nd AZ
****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******
Pokémon - 20
2 Giratina-EX AOR 93
2 Shaymin-EX ROS 106
4 Crawdaunt PRC 92
1 Hoopa-EX AOR 89
4 Corphish PRC 42
1 Feebas PRC 43
1 Feebas FLF 22
2 Milotic PRC 44
3 Seismitoad-EX FFI 106
Trainer Cards - 28
2 AZ PHF 91
1 Professor Birch's Observations PRC 159
1 Battle Reporter FFI 109
4 Acro Bike PRC 122
4 Super Scoop Up FFI 100
1 Super Rod BKT 149
1 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
1 Float Stone PLF 99
1 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
2 Head Ringer Team Flare Hyper Gear PHF 97
3 Ultra Ball ROS 93
1 Lysandre FLF 104
2 Muscle Band XY 121
4 VS Seeker PHF 109
Energy - 12
2 Darkness Energy XYEnergy 1
4 Double Dragon Energy ROS 97
1 Grass Energy BLWEnergy 5
1 Psychic Energy XYEnergy 8
4 Double Colorless Energy PHF 111
>>24908866
you're going to get walled by aegislash hard
>>24908941
I have yet to see an Aegislash in standard
And it probably is a one-of
>>24908866
I'd try adding a teammates in there
Some codes, post what you get!
>>24909444
Thanks anon, at least I got a BREAK.
>>24909444
>all taken
oh
>>24909444
>just woke up
>see this
fuck
>bugged out of a tournament second time in a row on my first round
fucking hell
>>24909747
forgot pic
How did they get away with this?
>>24910137
with what
>>24910367
dogs and puppies lick peoples' faces
zorua is based on a fox
???
Favorite set of XY so far? Ancient Origins had some cool shit and Roaring Skies had Shaymin, but I think Phantom Forces is my favorite overall.
>>24910824
I'm really digging Phantom Forces as well, especially because of the Joltik from it. It's my favorite Pokemon, and to see it in a viable deck is really nice!
What are some changes I should make to this deck?
x4 Noibat
x3 Noivern
x3 Noivern BREAK
x2 Remoraid
x2 Octillery
x1 Hydreigon EX
x1 Jirachi
x3 Crushing Hammers
x1 Enhanced Hammers
x3 Trainer's Mails
x3 Level Ball
x4 Ultra Ball
x3 Paint Roller
x3 Muscle Band
x2 Head Ringers
x4 Judge
x3 Battle Reporter
x1 Xerosic
x4 Double Dragon Energy
x3 Dark Energy
x3 Psychic Energy
>>24911031
Hydreigon's ability is stadium dependent. Why are you running three paint roller and no stadium?
>>24907553
Pinsir deck with Team Aqua Muk & Stadium.
>>24911222
I'm retarded, I just noticed it. Should I play 3 Parallel City or replace Hydreigon for Super Rod?
>>24911242
Parallel City's fine, or you can try Faded Townonce it's fixed
Or just drop Hydreigon for something like Silent Lab since you're not running anything that gets hit by it, and some decks nowadays are unironically only using Shaymin as their draw power.
There's also Fairy Garden or Shadow Circle since DDE gives you those energies.
If you want to go full meme, fit in Wide Lens and a handful of Eons.
How many boosters can be exchanged FA Shaymin EX (ROS) ?
The exchange offer for 20 ROS
>>24910391
>the prevolution of a werewolf is a fox
okay.
>>24911374
>werewolf
>not humans
Zoroak confirmed human pokemons
I've been losing a lot lately, is there anyway I can improve this deck without getting more VR Seeker?
Help me /vp/, i recently reformated my comp and redownload the game, but it doesn't work, it keeps crashing, not even repairing it with the installer makes it work. Maybe i am missing a different program that makes it work?
>>24911413
This deck is an absolute mess. I can tell you're just starting off so you probably don't have too many cards, but this is barely coherent. There are too many problems; completely random Pokemon and Trainer lineup, very few copies of these cards, lots of situational and random junk cards, virtually no consistency options, the list goes on. I would recommend you go look at what a deck should look like on some forum or website, then start from scratch.
If you really want help here, what kind of deck were you trying to make in the first place? A Metagross deck? Something with Regice?
>>24911428
Something something anti-EX. I tried without the metagross and Octillery then proceed to get rekt anyways.
>>24911437
>anti-EX
Manectric EX / Regice is a very competitive deck right now that does that. You already have two Regice, and you can get two Manectric from the ladder, so you're halfway there.
Or try Pyroar with generic Fire cards. Entei, Charizard EX, Typhlosion, whatever.
Beautifly with M Sceptile works too.
Other than that, there aren't any viable options, and it's not even that great anymore with the presence of new non-EX options in Standard. You can try playing Expanded to access Suicune/Sigilyph, but whatever.
>>24911459
I actually got the manectrics and 3 Regice so I guess I can try a electric/water deck.
Also what new-EX options are there? So far, the only ones I saw was Night March and the Zubat-Gobat-Crobat spam (no idea how to counter the latter).
>>24911466
>>>/lit/
>>24911489
>Also what new-EX options are there?
A bunch. There are a shitload of cards from the past few packs that are more than usable, especially on PTCGO of all places. Lots of them are budget, too.
Chances are you can pick any given Rare from a pack and build a deck around it. You'll even end up with a positive winrate on the ladder.
It's more important that your deck is well-built.
>>24911502What packs? What the hell pokemon are viable? I'm a retard at reading what abilities are actually good pls spoonfeed me.
>>24911514
http://forums.sixprizes.com/c/deck/standard
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/metagame-deck-discussion.250/
or just google for "[your favorite pokemon] deck" and filter for date, there are way too many cards for this level of spoonfeeding
>>24889818
Guys I have the complete collection of the first edition of the Pokémon cards, the ones in pic related (almost complete anyway)
Are they worth something?
>>24911530
thanks familyI tried looking through that but all I saw was a sea of EX decks and gave up. I guess I'll try again.
>>24911534
What's wrong with EX?
>>24911533
>That art
shit compared to the new Machoke and Machamp ones.
>>24911535
I figured I'll have a hard time collecting EXs for a good deck instead of using what I currently have. The Sceptile-EXs are new addition thanks to Binder Guy.
>>24911539
Most EXs aren't worth more than 2-3 packs at most, and you can probably get them for less. That's how much the better non-EXs are worth.
>>24911534
Don't be a "lol EXs is bad" retard. Use the cards needed to make your decks work, EX or non-EX. If you really want some non-EX Pokémon that feature in some top decks, Vespiquen, Zoroark, Gallade, Yveltal, Regice, Articuno, Raikou, Entei, Vileplume, Miltank, Bronzong, Raichu, Milotic, Magnezone, the Crobat line and the Night March crew all have their uses.
>>24911549
Is bulbapedia's pack list reliable for seeing where I can get these cards?
>>24911536
I like it, post the newer ones
>>24911555
Search them inside PTCGO, tick the "show not-owned" option if necessary.
>>24911555
Yeah, but why would you do that? You should never open packs if you're after cards. You'll never get what you want or need, and you definitely won't get enough copies of it.
>>24911563
well, I don't even know what I want atm and what's on market are usually something like 1 pack which is kinda expensive
>>24889818
>Did you get anything TCG-related for Christmas?
I got the Iron Tide theme deck. It's actually pretty good.
>>24911570
>well, I don't even know what I want atm
Just list or look up some of your favorite Pokemon.
>what's on market are usually something like 1 pack which is kinda expensive
Because you're allowed to post anything on the public trade. If I want to make a listing offering my 1x Pidgey for 50x Shaymin EX Full Art, I can do it.
And guess what? No one's going to take it. It's going to stay there until the time's up, where everyone can see it.
But if I post a fair trade, guess what happens? People take it. Quickly. So it won't be listed.
Do you get it? The listings you see are all bad because people take the fair trades in the first few minutes they're up. If you want to do a public trade, make the offers yourself. Otherwise you're forced to refresh and try and snipe all the 7:59 trades, which is autistic as fuck with how long it takes.
>>24911599
Alright I guess I can try that thanks.
Come on, nobody can help me? the game keeps crashing, i can open it.
>>24911691
*can't
>>24911691
Upgrade your PC
>>24911740
Dude, it was just reformatted yesterday, with windows 7 as before, maybe i am missing certain plugin?
>>24911691
Have you tried reinstalling the client?
>>24911748
>>24911777
Don't reinstall it by uninstalling.
Under your list of programs, click CHANGE instead of uninstall, then uninstall it through there. Then download the installer again and work from there.
>>24911459
AT Entei with Charizard EX (Combustion Blast) is good. You can use Pyroar with AT Entei if you want. Typhlosion, ah he's had a shit time. Didn't see another print from HGSS until now and gets a card even the BREAKthrough player's guide didn't know what to do with.and then the nips decided they wanted a BREAK evolution for one of the only Pokemon that never needed one. Crobat. Can't wait for Vespiquen BREAK, Gallade BREAK and Bronzong BREAK before they discontinue the mechanic.
>>24911841
I don't know why people insist on the Charizard tech in fire decks. It's such a heavy card.
Typhlosion actually isn't the worst. He's hilarious in some turbo builds to the point where you can swing for 240 first turn, and I've seen him used alongside Entei or Pyroar.
>>24911859
Maybe I'm undervaluing Flare Destroy or being able to really filter through your deck I guess, but I'd really have liked to have seen a BREAK evo where it has an ability which puts 2 cards from discard to top of deck. Really wouldn't have broken it given it's a stage 3 that can't be Archie/Maxie'd but I guess the nips think BREAKs are only meant for buffing things already top tier. No wonder PCL is always so confused.
Speaking of Flare Destroy, is there actually anything else in Standard that does as much damage while acting as Energy Removal?
>>24911031
Get some Supersonic Noibat.
Those are the best.
>>24911878
>Maybe I'm undervaluing Flare Destroy
It's more about Massive Eruption, actually. Only one energy, can hit for 160 before Band off two mills and KOs anything short of Wailord if you mill three, sets up Blacksmith, etc. They've also been beefing up Stage 2s in general so it's sitting on 150 HP, which is nice.
>Speaking of Flare Destroy, is there actually anything else in Standard that does as much damage while acting as Energy Removal?
M Lucario hits for 140 and removes an energy.
Sharpedo EX hits for 100.
You then have a few other Pokemon swinging for 70 or 80 and discarding.
Notably, PC Kingdra hitting for 70 off one DCE and discarding up to two energies, and PHF Feraligatr lets you keep flipping until you get tails, then you discard that many off your opponent. It also has a viable second attack.
The problem is that discarding energies is pointless if you're also one-shotting them.
>>24911533
>I have the complete collection of the first edition of the Pokémon cards
Is it really? or is it just the 1st Machamp card?
Got post pics man.
>>24911937
>that ability and move
power creep really ruined pokemon tcg
>>24911841
Is Charizard better than Pyroar? I'm running an Entei list currently and I'm trying to make it as good as possible
>>24911948
Power creep is irrelevant in a rotation-based meta.
Unless you're talking about how the numbers were expanded for a card's parameters, which is silly considering the better design liberties you get from having more space to work with. Not to mention how we've recessed in how powerful the trainers are.
>>24898824
I don't understand why the Mewtwo break din't have any Mew cards?
How can you have Mewtwo, with out Mew?
Would have replace Cresselia with Mew, so Mew would have been on the SR Red Mewtwo card.
>>24898824
You need a lot of japs promos
>>24911374
Zorro is spanish for fox
>>24911959
This guy gets it. Powercreep doesn't exist in pokemon. Only in unlimited card games does it reaoly exist... like yu-gi-oh
>>24911437
I am guessing you are the water/steel guy posting on other forums too.
You need 3-4 copies of the important cards in your deck so that you can actually hit them when you want them. 3-4 Vs Seeker & Sycamore are a must although you can crutch fix the lack of Sycamore with Birch/Shauna/Judge until you get some.
But even your pokemon lines are weird pyramids. Ignore the theme builds - these need to be fat lines consistently wide like, for this deck a 2-2 Octillery. A 3-3-3 Metagross (or 3-1-3 if you can get 2 rare candies). Instead of one-off cards like Aegislash/Glalie/Regice, you probably want at least 2-offs or even 3.
Red card, Exp Share, Giovanni, Ticket, Roller Skates, Mountain Ring, Sparkling Robe are all dead cards in most decks unless you have a very good reason to play them - here they are just wasting space. Drop those and look for more Vs. Seekers, Sycamore, Dive balls, Ultra Ball, Trainer Mail, Rough Seas.
Even after all that this deck will still be a hot mess, but at least it'll be a consistent one.
>>24912180
It does exist on a smaller scale. It was most noticeable in the BW block, where they just had to keep making stronger and stronger Pokemon to keep the old stronger Pokemon in check.
>>24912324
Explain the powercreep that is happening.
>>24912266I'm not the guy posting on the other forums
>>24912266
Also I use Red Card on people who likes to spam draw cards till they have like 10+ on hand, so it's pretty situational; same for Sparkling Robes against mostly Dark element decks that likes to Confuse or Sleep me
9.5/10 bundle.
XY109
Ninjask– Grass– HP90
Stage 1 – Evolves from Nincada
Ability: かそく (Acceleration)
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may attach an Energy card from your hand to this Pokemon.
[C] バトンタッチ (Baton Touch): Switch this Pokemon with 1 of your Benched Pokemon. Then, move all Energy attached to this Pokemon to your Active Pokemon.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 0
XY110
Shedinja– Psychic– HP50
Stage 1 – Evolves from Nincada
Ability: ふしぎなまもり (Mysterious Protection)
At any time between turns, remove all damage counters from this Pokemon.
[C] うらみ (Spite): 30 damage. During your opponent's next turn, any damage done by attacks from the Defending Pokemon is reduced by 50 (before applying Weakness and Resistance).
Weakness: none
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
neat
>>24912677
Shedinja with Hard Charm or Assault Vest could be a nice meme
>>24912677
source? Pokebeach doesn't have them yet
>>24912704
seems to be easily rekt by indirect damage like zubat or mewtwo's damage change through
>>24912471
Never mind.
The bundle doesn't give the card sleeve for some reason.
Odds are it will be fixed soon.
>>24911963
Probably because they're saving Mew and the other mythical Pokemon for their respective boxes in 2016.
>>24912449
use judge instead.
>>24912012
I need 6: Rota's Mew, ____'s Mew, the McDonalds Mew, a Mew ex (alone worth $200), a PCG-P promo, and the movie promo. The problem is they're all really expensive. And while there are listings on eBay for most of these, even just like one or two, I'd rather not have to buy them. The three Jap promos I do have I bought from a vendor at Ft. Wayne regionals. And to be honest the only one I really, really want is the McDonald's Mew.
>American McDonalds give out shitty reprints and Chinese-made figurines
>Japanese McDonald's give out promos that end up being worth over $50
what a world
Is pokemon draft any fun? My mtg group is starting to play pokemon and a draft would be a good opportunity for everyone to get cards
>>24912118
Good thing it aint a spic game, then
>>24914235
Pokemon TCG is pretty much the worst card game to draft due to its game mechanics of evolving and stuff
>>24914413
You can make it work out in Cube draft. There's even special rules if you want to.
>>24914235
Drafting with sealed packs is probably going to be one hot and shitty mess. I suggest building a Cube. I've been playing my nostalgia Cube with the MtG players every week now for a few months. It's very fun.
>>24914472
>Drafting with sealed packs is probably going to be one hot and shitty mess
Now I know I want to try it. We're all playing with crap we got out of boosters anyway so it'll probably like hoe we are used to play
>>24914545
At least try to use not too many different packs, though.
>>24911417
Firewall
Anyone play TCGO on iPad? Any idea what to do about missing card art? I already tried clearing cache and redownloading everything.I suppose I could try reinstalling.
>>24914736
Apparently it's a storage thing. Didn't realize it downloads stuff on the fly as well. Anyone know how much space a complete TCGO takes up?
I'd gladly toggle the ability to not have the art if I could just get plaintext of what the cards do if I could.
Is it possible to make a set around Porygon-Z?
>>24914989
Milotic and hammers and shovels. You need the stars to align to set it up but if it does it's basically invincible against any deck that requires more than one energy drop to kill.
Can they fucking fix the shuffling? Fucking every game it's me or the opponent drawing the exact same mulligan 3-4 times in a row.
>AT Entei with Charizard-EX Combustion Blast is a perfectly legit deck now
How did this happen? Was pretty certain Seismitoad-EX and Regice made anything with a weakness to water automatically wasted ink and cardboard and now it's no longer the case?
>>24915411
Water sucks shit outside of Manectric now. The best fire deck is still Vespiquen though.
>>24915411
Why use Charizard instead of Pyroar?
>>24915433
Charizard-EX can OHKO most non-Mega EXs with a Muscle Banded Combustion Blast while Pyroar struggles in the format thanks to Mega EXs and Evolutions like Vespiquen.
>>24915902
I'll give them a try then. Thanks for the reply
>shitty Darkrai reprint in Manaphy
>inferior Keldeo reprint in Zoroark
>arguably superior Mewtwo reprint in Mewtwo Y plus inferior Lugia
>inferior Blastoise reprint in Magnezone
>Virizion split into Palkia and Slurpuff and made useless
>Eelektrik reprint in Bronzong with more retreat
So when is Fire getting a repackaged BW staple? If they reprinted Garbodor of all things they could reprint Emboar.
>>24915939
Mewtwo's been here with a superior reprint since XY base with Yveltal-EX. Also Lugia actually has a second attack you can use compared to Mewtwo.
Zoroark arguably makes up for being a stage 1 by how good it is as an attacker. Fucking 160 off a DCE with literally no setup since everyone and their mother has to try to get their shaymins. Keldeo was 50 for 3 hitting for water weakness in everything but Blastoise.
Rain Dancers aren't anything new. Rayboar was more relevant than Blastoise for a while.
Fire already got Vespiquen.
>all the youtubers don't know how to speak or narrate a video, barely talk about strategy outside of literally describing what each card does, and just ramble on for years
I miss Pooka
I'm honestly tempted to go and make these videos myself, or at least stream
once again i reach this point with a day to go and just can't be arsed climbing further.
>>24918162
I only need the Xerosic and I probably won't get him. He's worth like 2 packs anyway so I can easily nab one later IF I ever need one. At least he's better than fossil researcher
>>24918162
You can't win 40-60 games in twenty hours? That's only three wins per hour at worst.
How is the night march mirror? Thinking of building it since it's all I ever play against. If you can't beat them join them right? It's that or I'm quittin this game at this point. So fucking frustrated
>>24918267
You should focus on getting more cards first. Night March stops being a problem when you actually have a Standard- or Expanded-ready deck, or when you have a better understanding of the game. Just keep grinding the ladder and tournaments and you should get there eventually, and post here if you have any questions or need help.
>>24918330
I already have most standard cards. Maybe I'm just a shit player. I only play a few games everyday on ptcg. No matter what I do they always seem to get crazy hands and it's frustrating as hell. I have a Lucario bat list and AT entei but I still lose all the time. I can't even remember the last time I won against NM. Does this game have pros with blogs to get a better understanding of the game?
>>24918162
point and laugh
>>24918172
I have a life nerd.
More to my point, the rewards past this point are shitty and not worth the time investment. The anon who said Xerosic is worth two packs gets it. My time would be better spent earning tickets, and going and winning tourneys.
>>24918446
>complaining about something given to you for free
>>24918446
>be me
>idle at 3000-4000 points every season
>rewards stop at 760
>don't mind it because free things are great and the game is fun
>they add more rewards and move the unecessary FA cards further back to make them more special and an actual goal for people to strive for
>incredibly happy
>be you
>be a disgusting casual
>search for a reason to complain at any given second in your life like the disgusting virgin I probably am
>demand free shit without putting effort in
>they increase the rewards but I actually have to play the game! WTF!?!?
>make a post on an anonymous image board about it
>butt devastated mad
????
>>24918446
>My time would be better spent earning tickets, and going and winning tourneys.
>You get versus points by just playing the game normally, you absolutely don't have to go out of your way for it
>My time in the game would better be spent not actually playing the game?
I really don't get it. What are you doing on the client?
all these conclusions
I'm simply making a point about how poorly the balance on the ladder is designed. Thats two ladders in a row where I've stopped dead at this exact point. If things are hard to reach, they need to be worth reaching in order to tempt players to continue playing.
Instead of pushing on up I went and played and won two tournaments for ten packs which is nice. Now I'm off to get drunk for New Years. Later nerds.
Why do stadiums brought in by teleport room have no effect?
>>24918849
Also, clicking on the stadium card card brings up my discard pile for some reason.
>>24918849
Because you are probably the first person in the world to play that gothitelle. Report it in the forums if you want it fixed in 1 or 2 months.
>>24918855
>>24918849
And now I can replace a teleport roomed training center with a training center from my hand. The old one is stuck in that spot and still opens my discard pile.
>>24918870
I may have to do that since the effect is so broken.
Stadium bugs are fun.
Any thoughts? Probably gonna cut a compressor for a third Shaymin once I obtain it
While messing around with skyfield, Hoopa-EX's ability somehow activated twice. I only had 4 EXs in the deck though.
They should reprint all of the old sets for sale tbqh senpai
I think skyfield allowing 20 benched mons is a bit excessive.
>>24911948
Charizard was a shitty card back then
How worth are TCGO cards compared to the real cards?
>>24919480
Only if they pull a HGSS era and give them updated artworks and card frames.
>>24919551
Usually just a small fraction. You'd have to check eBay, but even then it's against eBay's policy so listings are hard to gauge.
So I'm getting back into the tcg after several months. I'm using an old night march deck on the tcgo and tearing expanded a new one, but I have no idea what is good in the current meta and what isn't. What are some of the top decks right now?
Also are break pokemon any good?
>>24919752
Just play standard night march and you'll win almost all the time
any of you with physical cards have spares of Wizards Black Star Promo #40-42? I can't find any for a reasonable price and they're the last 3 I need to complete the series
>>24919752
What you're playing in expanded is basically the current meta. Standard is trash so like >>24919782 said, just play NM without the Mews and Computer Search and you'll be fine.
>>24919752
Zoroark BREAK is perfectly usable. Noctowl BREAK is a pretty good meme. Golduck BREAK has potential. All others are worthless.
>>24919844
Trevenant break also looks descent
>>24919858
Yeah, it will probably be a good tech in Gengar/Trev since splash damage will soften things up for Gengar since Virbank is rotated out.
Stupid game can't even fit my bench on the screen.
>>24919906
Can you break the game even more?
>have 850 tournament tickets
>don't want to be hassled with the 20 minute wait in between the first and second round of the tournament and the 5-10 minute wait after the 2nd round
>>24920136
Totally feel you. I'm on my way to 100 and I couldn't care less. I already have almost everything I need, not gonna waste 1-2 hours for a few packs
>Standard article
>author literally gloating about spamming Lucario-EX and how well he did for using Red Card and his opponent then dead drawing
These are literally the sort of people who the current state of Standard is fooling to think they're anything other than utterly awful at the game.
>>24919906
How much can you get M-ray to do?
>>24920154
Better than the people saying that NM is anything but cancer
When is PTCGo going to makeStandard-No EXandExpanded-No EXformats?
>>24920154
Standard is extremely inconsistent. In BW there were trainer staples for every deck plus Ace Specs, in XY each type has their own set of staples and draw support is limited to Shaymin and Sycamore instead of N, Colress, Jirachi plus Juniper and Shaymin. It's why bad decks like Lucario/Bats which requires no thought can win a lot, because it's so simple iin just spamming Lucario that it's hard to get unlucky like you can in Manectric, Rayquaza, Yveltal, NM/Vespi or Mewtwo decks.
Fighting in general is much more consistent thanks to Korrina, but since every type relies on specific supporters, it'll be ruined once FuF rotates, which is really bad for a meta. Whole types are going to suffer from rotation unless they reprint their staples.
>>24920214
Never because no one wants to play NM mirrors
>>24920249
Entei just dunks on it though usually
>>24920262
I actually don't think night March would be popular in that format. Swinging for more than 120 would be gratuitous and your two attackers have so little HP.
Brigitte and Teammates would be clutch in that format though.
>>24920298
When the belt thing that gives Basics +40 HP / +10 damage comes out in Breakpoint it'd make the Night Marchers a bit less fragile but not by much
>>24920306
fucking fighting spirit belt man
quite possibly the most ill-advised non-Pokemon card printed in a long time
>gee big basics are having the easiest time being viable
>let's make a card that significantly buffs them
>>24920328
One one hand I'm excited to play it but on the other hand it's just a really dumb card. Mixed feeling about it. I can't wait to put 2 of them on Entei but playing it on NM dudes or lame EX is gonna be rough
>>24920328
The card's ridiculous. It should just give 40 HP, and not affect damage. But now there's really not a reason to ever use Muscle Band again.
Also I don't mind it being only for basics, evolution is a dumb mechanic.
>>24920328
Hence me calling it "the belt thing" since I was quite outraged at the thought of that card giving EX Pokemons even more buff
>BREAK Evolution Box being sold early (as usual)
>They are numbered XY134~136
Being mostly irrelevant aside, that huge ass gap between them probably mean more tins and those once a month box set thingys will probably take over those slots
>>24920348
>Evolution
>Dumb mechanic
How new are you?
>>24920348
Evolution would be a lot better a mechanic if they were capable of balancing anything at all but instead they want the retard audience
>don't want to think just want to play one thing down with a ton of HP and win games from using the same attack over and over XD
It's like if in MtG Green and Black were consistently shit because it would be easier just to OP the shit out of White and Red
>>24920354
Uh, I'm very much not new; I've never enjoyed the card game as much as I do now. EX is a godsend mechanic; that's why it's still around. It's cute that they're trying to reduce LV.X but because they still use the evolution mechanic it's trash beyond stage 1.
>>24920358
High HP means nothing when attack damage is scaled to it. If we were still swinging for 50 for three grass energies you'd have a point.
Evolution is just a shitty mechanic. Dropping big cards on the board shouldn't be easy, but it shouldn't be unrewarding. In MtG as long as you have the lands needed you're fine. In YGO as long as you have card advantage you're fine.
YGO is a fun example because there are things similar to evolution in it as well. The LV archetype is the biggest one, and it is downright unplayable as a deck now.
>>24920388
I hate that most of the times I see stage 2 it's because of the Archie/Maxie card. Feels like they are cheating the game
>>24920388
The only 3 main times going face smasher with big basics were
- Base set, when there wasn't much of a science to card design and things like Chansey and Scyther were printed and their best print to this day is still their base set printing. It's kind of funny just how much they nerfed Chansey desu
- SPs, when they fucked up royally and made LuxChomp the unstoppable BDIF
- BW-on, when PCL came along and dumbed everything down to the point where the average possum would be insulted, see also it just being a steady rotation of X new 170HP+ basic being basically unstoppable
>>24920398
It's only the way to make them competitive with shit like NM and Ray and Yveltal that just get going out the gate. And if you don't play those decks you end up playing an item lock deck that shuts off your balls and candies.
>>24920388
>Evolution is just a shitty mechanic.
>YGO is a fun example because there are things similar to evolution in it as well. The LV archetype is the biggest one, and it is downright unplayable as a deck now.
Remember when Rituals were literally unplayable for over a decade? Or Fusions? Remember when Pendulums were unplayable minus garbage, or when Xyz had no chance of replacing Synchro?
But then all of those things changed. Konami decided to print good archtypes for those mechanics. Because mechanics are only as viable as the cards printed for them, and saying an entire mechanic is inherently shit because of a current meta is absolutely retarded and shows a radically poor understanding of game design.
And the best part is, those changes to YGO came out of the blue. No one expected Konami to magically push a Tier 1 ritual archtype. Meanwhile, Pokemon has a HISTORY of Stage 1 and 2 decks beating out big basics, like during the SP era. You're literally ignoring history with this entire post.
The problem with Stage 2 right now is that they're all unanimously shit. There isn't even an effort to make a good one. It has nothing to do with the evolution mechanic, or the fact that it's relatively slow and takes up space. Pic related is the problem, because TPC unironically thinks this is what a Stage 2 should look like right now. It's NOT a mechanic problem, it's a design problem.
>>24920963
While this is true, good stage 2s like Haxorus and Salamence are still never used because they're too slow and unreliable. The only non Korrina or Maxie/Archie stage 2 that ever sees play is Crobat, and only because he's less of a pokemon and more of a passive damage boost for your big body basic, and Golbat, the more commonly played bat, has free retreat.
>>24920984
>While this is true, good stage 2s like Haxorus and Salamence are still never used because they're too slow and unreliable.
Because they're NOT GOOD. They're definitely a step in the right direction and BT has shown that TPC is at least trying to address the Stage 2 problem with a few buffs across the board, but Haxorus still isn't a good card.
>The only non Korrina or Maxie/Archie stage 2 that ever sees play is Crobat
Because, again, there aren't any. And if we look a year or two in the past, we'll find some more Stage 2s that were used even WITHOUT any of those cards existing, specifically Blastoise and Garchomp.
Which are examples of spectacular card design for Stage 2s in an EX meta. Blastoise rewarded you for taking up deck space with Squirtles and Candies and risking a donk, because it had a GOOD ability that influenced a game the second it hit the field. Garchomp had a huge consistency boost from Gabite and hit well above the curve for virtually no energy, whereas Haxorus hits below curve, doesn't have Gabite, and even requires a fragile set up.
It's not like Stage 2s have had no competitive presence. Blastoise literally won Worlds, WITHOUT Maxie. We just need more cards like it.
>>24921030
Emboar is abetter example than Blastoise since RayBoar saw more competitive success without Archie or an equivalent.
>Haxorus is not good
He attacks for high damage with a single energy drop while having high health, and has an attack that forces your opponent to switch him out or kill him or get steamrolled. He's solely unplayable because getting him out is more work than just running a big body basic. Your example of Blastoise is shit because the card itself sucks, its his synergy with other EX pokemon that make him viable, like Emboar. Magnezone is not viable because he has no shortcuts and no reliable teammates beyond Raikou, Pikachu and Lugia, despite having a basic with free retreat.
What you're asking for is a stage 2 with a stage 1 being viable on its own that has synergy with the top tier decks and has a meta-defining ability or attack. This will never happen. The closest you have is Gallade with shortcuts, cheapness, power, synergy and one of the better abilities.
>>24921624
>only 78 cards
>>24921624
Is there translation?
>>24921624
>>24921653
Umbreon-EX – Darkness – HP170
Basic Pokemon
[C] Night Veil: 20 damage. Discard any number of cards from your hand. Then, draw an equal number of cards from your deck.
[D][C][C] End Game: 70 damage. If damage from this attack Knocks Out your opponent’s Active Mega Evolution Pokemon, take 2 additional Prize cards.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1
>>24921624
>>24921657
>Four Prize KOs.
Most likely going to be a 1 of in dark decks
>>24921624
>more basic EXes that are meant to be especially good against mega evolutions
PCL for fuck sake Megas are meant to trash basic EXes, not the other way around.
>>24921698
Still needs a dark energy and for there to be a mega Pokemon.
The pay off is good, but it is too risky to use.
>>24921795
Megas deserve the hate. Some of them are ridiculously good
We need a new thread.
>>24921801
see also Mega Manectric (which has lost ground since everyone is spamming Lucario-EX) and no others.
Seems to me like PCL have ran out of ideas for mega evolutions and just don't care about it anymore.
>>24921803
Act don't react
>>24921809
>Act don't react
Fine, I've never made one, but whatever.
If there isn't one in five I'll do it.
>>24921807
They should have made Scizor have U-Turn dealing 80 with Omega Barrier.
NEW THREAD: >>24921843
