Shopkeeper edition: Old thread >>24861609
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
Side Topic: Have you recruited Kecleon in Blue/Sky?
First for killing your own team with earthquake
>>24877311
Second for getting killed by your confused teammate using Discharge
third for NEVER EVER finding Glaceon
I never attempted to 100% Sky, also because I had Darkness
>>24877330
One day
>>24877309
I recruited Kecleonby using an Action Replay code to force the first one I killed to join me
6th for best chef
>>24877363
Hands down the most annoying character in the series
Do you get a message if your vitamin has a doubled effect? I saw it mentioned in the FAQ but I haven't seen it happen yet.
Got a decent stock of Gold Bars and am about to start roiding up.
>>24877309
that shinx is very bad at eating apples
>>24877354
cheater.
>>24877378
The doubled effect=throwing vitamins through 2 pokemon with the Water Looplet, hitting both and "Doubling the effect"
>>24877309
>Have you recruited Kecleon in Blue/Sky?
Yes, but not before blundering about in Star Cave for a few runs, where you can't recruit anything.
>>24877383
Oh, that's what it meant.
The miss rate is rather low, so it's all good.
>>24877407
Even with a few misses here and there, it's still about a 90% chance or something of the vitamins hitting both party members, or something like that. I just pulled that number out of nowhere though
>>24877407
>Missing a move drink on the person you bought it for
>Missing the golden seed on your partner
I think I have a crush on Carracosta, send help.
>>24877433
Why wouldya want to do the dirty with Pops, man?
What's all up with that?
>>24877322
Some drawfag should really make bunch of comics presenting stuff like accidantal kills within pt or teammate taking damage for you from fucking super effective move.
>>24877433
There is no helping scum like you
>>24877439
not quite what you're looking for, but
>>24877438
I don't Anon, my heart wants him
>>24877499
>those feet
chespin are you okay
this thread is dead af. where are you anons?
>>24878071
in dungeon
>>24878071
I'm in Buried Relic, trying to recruit Gulpins
>>24878071
rising to the sky in a ball of light
the 4g signal is great
>>24878071
Listening to Super's god-tier OST and wishing I could play it.
>>24878071
Writing fanfiction
Engrossed in doing so
>>24878071
Taking a break and playing empire at war
Signs that rape is about to begin
>Well I think it has to do with having one pokemon used screech while the other used knock off
>>24878185Chespin used Bulk Up!The Barrage Emera activated!
>>24878185
>Sky
>recruiting
>Kecleon used Screech!
>>24878218
that reminds me, how do you even recruit kecleon in super? is there a mission or something?
>>24878218
>Screech cuts defense by 75%
Who thought that was a good idea? It's equivalent to being dropped to -5 in one move and you can't even remove it with defensive buffs
>>24878185
>Heliolisk whipped up a whirlwind!
>Heliolisk whipped up a whirlwind!
>Heliolisk whipped up a whirlwind!
>>24878244
recruit more and more and it'll happen eventually.
>>24878245
It's more than that it feels like, you can go from taking 1 damage to 70 if even a normal mon uses it in Blue, let alone Kecleon in Sky
>>24878185
>Drifblim used Ominous Wind!
>>24878185
>Pyroar used Hyper Beam!
>>24878244
Talk to the shopkeepers after beating the epilogue and they'll join you. I think Kecleon joins around 700 species (not total), so get to work
>>24878185
>it's a Monster House!
>in Sky Tower
>"Aerodactl used Agility!"
>>24878252
>>24878263
That was the only difficult part of the game desu senpai
Does anybody here know if there are any limitations to the mons Jirachi can get to join your team via wishing? Will it allow evolved mons to join?
>>24878071
taking a break from SMD and playing some other games
still gotta do a bunch of the postgame content, so I have that to look forward to
>>24878670
Also, if I wish for "More Items!" does this include Leaf Stones?
>>24878670
Evolved mons are fine.
>>24878677
I think More Items uses Wish Cave's item list, so you wouldn't get any Leaf Stones like that.
>>24878185
The Unburden ability delivers another attack!
On that subject, please save me.
Hall of Magic, 10f.
>>24878713
So I can bypass the bullshit and get Blissey like this?
>>24878713
This means the only good item is Sitrus Berries?
>>24878715
On it.
So what exactly does Swirlix 'cook?' Isn't the dinner mostly berries and apples? Does she just prepare everyone's plates or what?
>>24878726
Yeah. It certainly beats recruiting a second Chansey and feeding it 30+ gummis.
>>24878754
>recruiting a chansey, which probably has piss poor spawn rates, with those odds
Yeah I think I'd rather Wish Cave it up.
So anon in the Hall of Magic, want any item in particular?
>>24878745
You can cook and sauté veggies n shit, can't you?
Maybe there's some dank-ass salads with various nuts for protein or some shit. I don't know anything about the nutritional values of an Oran berry but popping one of those fuckers mends wounds miraculously.
>>24878759
Nah. You want anything in return?
>>24878769
I'll just throw you a vitamin.
As for me? Nah, I'm good.
>>24878772
Or well, i'd give a vitamin if i could. Have some wands instead, they always come in handy.
Now back to recruiting mons in Waterfall Pond.
Why is Magikarp so rare? I just waited as long as i could on two Magikarp floors and saw three the entire time, yet Squirtles, Totodiles, and Corphish were everywhere
>>24878781
Thanks senpai
>>24878845
>3 magikarp in 4 floors
>probably over like 500 points of hunger
>1 recruit
I love the Tight Belt, but i hate this piss poor encounter rate
>>24878071
Making Sprite Sheets for the Spriters Resource. I havn't decided how I want to do the important NPCs sheet yet.
this "connecting" shit is bull. I want to recruit whoever I want
>>24878989
I wish there was a bit of a mix. I just waited on all 5 floors Magikarp appears on in Waterfall Pond and got a measly 3 magikarp to spawn.
Fuck getting another like this, I'll take my chances with Jirachi
>>24878984
Spriters Resource fucked up GtI by sorting the portraits in 'eh' quality.
>>24878845
Magikarp has the best spawn rate on Waterfall Pond 7F with about 2.45%.
And yet, even when compared to worst spawn rate of 1.79% at 9F, it's still better than spawn rate of Mew (0.21%-1.22%), Abra (0.25%-0.77% in Buried Relic; it's far better in Wish Cave), Exeggcute (Howling Forest 14F; 0.62%) or Pidgey (~1.5% in upper floors of Howling Forest), and few things I forgot about.
>>24879010
and i still gotta get a fuckton more mons.
Honestly I think i'd rather just run Wish Cave a TON. It's really easy once you get the hang of it. Linked moves on Skarmory give ABSURD experience
>>24879010
>Spriters Resource fucked up GtI by sorting the portraits in 'eh' quality.
That wasn't the Spriters Resource's fault. It's the fault of whoever made the sheet. Afaik, the moderators that accept submissions never actually edit the sheets themselves.
I honestly have no clue what the guy who submitted it was thinking. Maybe he just threw them onto the sheet in the order that the game stored them in? I'd likely get a similar result if I did the same with SMD's portraits.
>>24879022
Finding Pidgey took me a shitton of Illuminate abuse.
>>24879036
My strategy consists of "dig a tunnel with super mobile, and wait in it with a Tight Belt, then run around the map
>feebas appears after waiting like 10 minutes
>corphish 1shots it with a normal attack
Once this trip is over i'm taking it with into a dungeon and throwing an Iron Thorn into it's stupid fucking FACE
>>24879041
Well, that's a strategy.
>mfw Tight Belt appears in one of Wondermail Dungeons
It otherwise appears only in Purity Forest and Far-off Sea,.
>>24879067
I got it after like 4-5 runs in Far-Off Sea.I have yet to get it within like a dozen successful ZIS runs
Time to enter Wish Cave once again, but this time on a mission to beat the fuck out of that fucker at the end and get a wish
>>24879212
Good luck, anon-kun.
>>24879223
Don't worry, I got this, and even if I don't, I still got you guys to save my ass if i fuck up.
>>24879233
I've never knew you can even rescue people in Purity Forest.
Fun fact: Purity Forest reaches highest difficulty values of 13-14 at last floors (although if you get in escort mission, it adds 2 to that; the game would award 2000 points if you were insane enough to do an escort mission on these, but I am not sure if the game can generate something like that on its own).
>>24879250
>escort missions in Purity Forest
Why the fuck would you ever do that? Especially when the most popular strategy is "find a warp scarf and run"
>>24879263
You're asking me that?
Do TMs go away on one use?
>>24879413
Depends on the game.
In GtI, no. In Super, only the ones with red/rainbow outline.
In other games, yes; but you can always use Recycle to fix them.
>>24879413
Yes, but there are rare Rainbow TM's that don't.
>>24879458
>Ho-Oh used Recover!
>400HP
...TIL I learned that Rescue's Ho-Oh has 800HP.I wonder how other bosses fare against that.
>>24879468
Deoxys lived I think over 8000 damage when I fought it
>>24879468
I determined the HP of most of the Sky bosses by messing about with Endeavor.
http://pastebin.com/kgrg5Yvu
>been sitting on floor 18 of wish cave farming Skarmory
I probably don't need to, but the extra insurance is nice
>>24879513
>Regigigas has 910
Regigigas truly confirmed for the hardess boss in the game?
It sucks being a nocturnal faggot, everyone here's all minding their own business and shit.
And I gotta wait til after Christmas for my friend to come back so I can keep watching him play Blue Rescue Team and remembering shit like Powder Snow.
>>24879594
I'm still around, but not for long, it's 4:30 am and I'm gonna have to quicksave in Wish Cave
>>24879622
If I went to bed now I'd just lay there for 3 hours until my body decided it was time to sleep. I have no one to blame but myself.
>>24879629
What games are you playing? Starters?
>>24879631
I've already 100% SPMD, now I'm just writefagging and waiting for people who haven't already binged on the series.
But I'll have you know that I cherish this Fennekin
>>24879666
Aah, alright. 100% SMD as well, went back to Blue to recruit everything, and decided the best way to get some of them was to throw myself at Wish Cave
>>24879678
Fair enough, some of them do seem pretty bullshit. So how many runs are you going to do?
>Eating Reviver Seeds
>while in Wish Cave
>haven't even come close to dying, the dungeon just has enough of them
livin life on the edge here.
>>24879731
Oh god, I don't even know, but it's more fun than "run 59 floors into joyous tower for a fucking ponyta"
>>24879553
If you don't have Discharge or Earth Power, I think the battle against Carnivine and his mobs in Sky Peak is the hardest. All of them hit reasonably hard and have around 400HP each, while there are 8 of them, plus you're escorting a weakened Shaymin, who is weak to Grimer and Muk's Sludge Bomb and will die in two hits tops.
Regigiygas starts slowed, his allies are weak and you have Gardevoir healing everyone every turn.
>>24877309
just picked up SMD after not plyaing these since the gba games.
is the end game fun? is the game ment to be this easy? whats the point in using the high leveled Pokemon when your low level? ad will all the low leveled partners im trying to make strong worth is or should i just take the easy route
>>24880004
Exp is universal. If you use the strong guys, your weak dudes get the experience. But of course, the strong ones go on break for long periods of time.
Any tips for a Zero Isle wild ride? good starting pokemon? preparations?
Explorers of Sky
>>24880078Isn't there a Zero Isle guide out in the links?
>>24879513
And there is a similar list for Rescue Team now!
http://pastebin.com/QwGa2HZK
>mfw I fucked up Sky Tower so I had to return; everyone had comment; Golem and Metapod were like "WAIT WHAT THERE IS A TOWER OF CLOUDS", among other things
>buy 2 tiny revive seeds
>get wasted on waking up jirachi
Why is this allowed? I can't even put the seeds in a box, I HAVE TO waste them. It's fucking bullshit.
>>24879500
It doesn't have that much HP.But sure it is the most resilient boss in the entire game at 950HP.
Spritesheet anon here. I'm not really sure how I want to go about making this sheet. I can't decide whether I want to include only the more prominent NPCs, all the unique NPCs, or only the NPCs with special portraits.
I also can't decide whether to include the NPCs with unused leftover portraits from Gates or not.
>>24880440
welldoes it even have that many portraits for non-plot NPCs
>>24880440
>Crying and laughing Hydreigon
That's both adorable and hilarious
>>24880448
Yes. I'll either have to cut the fat or make it into two sheets.
>>24880440
Oh fuck, that shit is moe!
I thought hose were rippable, good job anyway, I like them.
>>24880485
>720 pokemon
>And they all have multiple sprites
Damn son, I pity the artist who had to draw all that
>>24880485
I suppose you can split it into plot-important and non-plot. Or something.
>>24880485
>that Sunkern
>Substitute
>>24880500
>one artist
rip artist
>>24880516
>>Substitute
Yeah, I saw it after I posted and removed it.
If you look closely at the mugshots, you'll notice that they were made in layers to make creating multiple expressions much easier.
>>24880510
When I was thinking about it, the simplest solution would be to just make sheets for each gen and just shove all the impotent and unimportant NPCs in them. It would probably look nicer overall for the most part, but make finding the important NPCs slightly more cumbersome.
>>24877322
Same with heat wave.
>>24880440
How about if you try to make like on PMD 1 mugshots/portraits on Spriters Resource: one group for Protagonists/Partners and other group for NPCs.
But now that they are like 720 Pokemon I'll tell you that if they are too many individual portraits try to divide NPCs by generations.Pic related is a group of Gates protagonist/partner portraits I made because I hated the way the people that uploaded it on Spriters Resource
>>24880998
this is so much more clear than the fucking mess sprites resources allowed.too bad that evolution prior to Super basically erases portraits.
someone oughta to remake older mystery dungeon or something... i don't know.
>>24877419
>missing both Pokemon with anything
Not implying anyone else is stupid, but you all use it for elixirs and healing items too right?
>>24880998
Some of those evolutions don't need expressions.
Like honestly I think Serperior has that reaction to everything.
>>24878157
Same with Pikmin 3
Just saw the sweet captchas
>>24877309
>>24877309
Does that one thing still work in the new mystery dungeons where if a wild Pokemon attacks keckleon he temporarily joins your party letting you take all his shit?
I know it worked in sky, red rescue, and time but I don't know about the rest
>>24881115
He only joins for that floor though.
>>24881063
Starting Time/Darkness all Pokemon (including evolutions and formes) have portraits, but non-NPCs evolutions lack emotions (that won't be used anyways because it occurs on post-game)
It seems that a reason why Malamar's Contrary stops working when using Superpower after some floors is because of Type Bulldozer. I can confirm it after a run in Casameownca and Sacred Ruins.
>>24880998
Tepig and Axew have adorable expressions
Do you get anything for doing Meowth's Theater? I never looked at it until now, I had no idea there were dungeons there. They sound pretty tough.
So how does this motivated EXP work?
You bring all 3 on a mission and the tripled EXP they all get is also applied to every pokemon not brought along?
>>24881775
I believe Pokemon you don't bring only get like 1.2x
>>24878185
>Sandslash used Magnitude
>Mag 10
Or
>1 tile hallway
>Bronzor used confuse ray
>Bronzor used confuse ray
>Bronzor used confuse ray
>Everyone starts hitting each other.
>>24879666
I just finished the epilogue, and now taking things slowly, so as to enjoy the game at its fullest.
btw, how difficult are the Meowth stuff?
How the fuck are you supposed to get enough money to pay for move tutors?
>>24881823
You know those prized gold bars that can be exchanged for extremely rare items?
You have to sell them.
Help please?
>>24881846
>1 gold bar = 555 p
>Draco Meteor = 11,000 p
I mean seriously, what the fuck, Hawlucha?
>>24880078
Drifblim.
I made a guide or two, check the OP. There's one for level 1 dungeons, and a large list of pokemon i've tested in Zero Isle South
>>24881823
here's a tip.
>super apple forest
>go in with all your perfect apples
>sell on final floor, along with any apples
>steal them back
>>24882138
how difficult is it to avoid being raped by Kecleon?
>>24882218
Just use Trawl Orb near the stairs and use Agility, Quick Seed, or whatever thing to up your speed, grab the Apples back and run to the stairs.
>>24882218
Unavoidable. You WILL have to let the thief get KO'd. Here's what you do.
>have about 5 reviver seeds
>set the first mon shown to sit ON the stairs (leftmost health bar)
>switch leaders, have this mon steal, and get KO'd by Kecleon
>say no to reviving it
>game forces a switch to other mon
>the one on stairs
>get through the stairs
>>24882257
Don't work on shops now
>>24880998
>But now that they are like 720 Pokemon I'll tell you that if they are too many individual portraits try to divide NPCs by generations
No kidding. There are 800 unique NPC portraits and 2285 portraits for all the other NPCs to have 3 for each form.
>>24882402
That seems a lot of work. The best you can do is organize them by generations. After you finish can you upload it to Spriters Resource or here? I've been waiting for this since the jap release.
So how do you anons think this would work for the sheet.
>have the sheets split up by gen
>but have the NPCs with unique portraits at the top of the sheet
>regular NPC's with only 3 portraits below that
>and the singular mega portraits at the very bottom
I'll upload the compressed sheet here and the uncompressed one to the Spriters Resource. Also when I finish, I'm going to crop out the black bars and upload a .rar containing all the renamed portraits here.
Here's the two sheets I finished so far. I could have combined them, but it wouldn't make that much of a difference and keeps the individual sheet size smaller.
>>24869476
>>24872239
>>24882461
Meant to reply to
>>24882449
Starting my Wish Cave trip again, floor 45.
I have to wonder, why did continents from previous games appear in SMD if none of the old dungeons did?
>Delibird encounter
Merry Christmas, PMDG!
>back to back spawning in Monster Houses in wish cave
>connect to Digglet
>he connects toSkarmory
>connect to Makuhita
>he connects toMarowak and Electivre
>connect to Duskull
>he connects to Persian
>he doesn't evolve his pokemon
>>24882955
>he evolves his
There's nothing quite like seeing a tiny little Wooper 1shot a legendary. Besides, I've always loved cutemons, and with few exceptionsAmpharos being onepre-evos are always cuter
>>24882935
>connect to whiscash
>he connects to charizard, seviper, tyranitar and alakazam
>Monster House
>Electrode used Sonicboom!
>hits the Hitmonchan in front of me and kills it
So when I unlock treasure hunting mode, I see legendaries portraits on some locations. Should I wait until I have a mission/connection involving the legendary or is the mechanism of recruitment for those just to beat the dungeon?
>>24883359
you go and beat them up and then they become friends
>>24882461
Thanks Anon. I'll look for them as soon as you upload them.
>>24883403
Sweet. And do I need to dig through walls or anything for the treasures or do you gt them automatically when you clear the dungeon?
>>24883436
you get them when you clear the dungeon
>tfw no Hawlucha to recruit and dump all of my stat items into
how long goddam
>>24880440
>Hydreigon
My heart
>>24881208
I didn't have type bulldozer on Malamar in my attempts, it still lowered.
I just beat Mewtwo with Shedinja. Without Curse and only three Elixers. How'd I do?
>>24883749
>He had to use items
>linked Screech+Fury Swipes in Wish Cave near the end
None of these enemies are safe
>was posting in wrong threads about wish cave
if you see some dumbass posting about wish cave in /vp/ threads, it was my stupid ass
>>24883912
tl;dr, got a leaf stone from wish cave, jirachi gave me a silcoon
>>24880440
where did you DL these at?
>>24879666
PROTECT SMILE
>About to pop in SMD
>Remember that the entire game revolves around burning through items
>Play Sky instead
>>24883962
This reminds me. I don't mean to shill my hobby so much, but I always tend to want to write for a thread more than myself. The Destiny Tower Field Journals thing I'm rolling my face over has my own partners in mind, which is Servine Braixen. Would people believe that Dewott Braixen is a more fitting pairing to write about?
>>24884053
It's easier to relate with characters who have limbs, but hey.
>>24884203
It's written in a perspective from Mawile which discounts the need to really relate all that much to the two other characters.
Also vines are the reason they become a snake
>>24884053
Servine-Braixen would be cute and uniqueI'm biased
>>24883919
>leaf stone
Oh, that's good.
>silcoon
Ahahaha
I once came up with a plan to recruit three Silcoon/Cascoon in Sinister Woods at once involving Pass Scarfs, but when I went to get the third one I stupidly left the two I had next to each otherbecause it was cuteand one of them just passed enemy attacks onto the other one, making it faint.
>>24884053
put snek in
>>24884432
At least the Wurmple family is done now. Who the fuck thought making Wurmple's evo totally random was a good idea?
>Thirsty Desert
>Fire-types everywhere
>Ah, I get it. Should've brought a water-type for fun
>Big room
>Partner tosses an Iron Spike halfway across the room
>Wait, back the log up
>Partner chucks an Iron Spike at at Magmortar
>Magmortar's Flame Body melts the spike
>Flame Body can apparently block Iron, Silver, and Wood Spikes
>Mfw
Also, a great way of knowing if there's a Monster House on your floor is by bringing Hoopa alone. He can't get out of his bottle on a floor with a Monster House because there's too many Pokemon on the floor
THIS IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN KNOWING WHAT "SECRET BASE" MISSION IS A MONSTER HOUSE
>>24884525
Oh shit, so Onix can absorb Iron Spikes to become Steelix and Flame Body mons can melt them completely.
We ought to document all this weird shit somewhere
>>24884549
Ironically, I was the same guy to find out about the Iron Spiked Steelix thing too
I'm just discovering shit, apparently
>>24884554
You're the hero we need, anon. Continue to throw projectiles at everything.
>>24884560
The thing that makes it weird is I didn't even through it. both iterations of the events happened when one of my teammates tossed something at an enemy
I discovered the Spiked Steelix phenomena when my team just chucked Iron Spikes at it. don't ask me how much, just light it up
And the same happened here, except apparently the AI is quick to learn that their weapons cannot harm it since it only tosses one at a Magmortar then never does it again. which is good since then you don't have your AI burning ammunition. Literally
Apparently I got the "discover new shit" version of the game. Hoopa Monster House Precognition, Iron Spiked Steelix, and Fire Shield.I'm not good at names
>>24884578
>onyx evolves to steelix with the metal coat in the main games
>metal coat also evolves scyther
Have you tried throwing iron spikes a t a scyther to see if something happens?
>>24884714
Curious. There's only one way to find out
What dungeon has Scyther's again?
No game in the history of ever has made me feel as powerful as when I got the Society Members to all fight together. For all the despair you should be feeling, there's not only a sense of hope there, but that YOU WILL escape and YOU WILL succeed.
>face Mewtwo with Shedinja
>he tries to attack me
>it fails
>Mewtwo then continuously runs away
>>24884931
>Have to fight a Yanma
>Attack its weakspot for maximum damage
>Yanma proceeds to try and run to the stairs
YOUR ASS IS MINE BOY
>>24884896
Goddamn, yes.
I was pretty sure that dungeon couldn't be lost at all.
>almost to 650 Pokemon
>feel like it's approaching the empty grinding that awaits me for Destiny Tower
>already getting bored of continuously grinding MOTIVATED teams at the Island of Storms without Heat Waves
What do? Play something else then come back?
>>24884977
Pick up a mindless shooter game like Alien Swarm for a bit.
>>24884977
Be thankful you're not me right now, trying to get everything in Blue
>>24884977
Play Sky
>>24884977
I never cared about any other two pokemon besides for very niche utility reasons. All you gotta do is roid up and hammer down on requests, clearing out by area and coming back if some fag you get requires it.
Or, you could hang out in Noe town and enjoy the everloving fuck out the music.
>>24884977
I'm at that stage too.
>655/720 pokemon
>completed all current requests except for a couple legendaries
I tried Path of the Fallen Leaves but got my ass handed to me so it looks like it's several trips to Open Pass with the Water Looplet for me.
How many floors is Revelation Mountain2?
>>24885137
99no more than 15, I forgot how much exatly
>>24885137
Don't worry bruh
Just use Stayaway Wands whenever you see a Drifblim or spawn in a room with enemies.
>>24885140
>>24885138
That was shorter than I expected, cool
Is it normal for my MC and partner to be the lowest level pokemon of my expedition group or what?
>>24885263
pretty much, theres only a few that you recruit that are lower level/same level
I really hate the XP gain in Super
>pidgey in howling forest
>level 1
Why?
>>24883943
Some anon some threads ago ripped and uploaded them.
>>24885306
>going to recruit one last one
>hail on first floor it spawns on
With 10 hp on them there's no point
>>24885306
Because game hates you.
>>24885350
After Silcoon, I'll believe it.
>>24872239
>no Pichu portraits because fuck everyone
>mirrored Greninja portraits for some reason
>Torterra so big, there's almost no background
>pidgey needs all this exp to level up
Why? It's not a good pokemon, they just hate my guts
>>24885353
>no Pichu portraits because fuck everyone
Pichu isn't a starter that you can choose or evolve into. Those sheets only contain the starters
>mirrored Greninja portraits for some reason
I don't know why there are mirrored Greninja portraits either, but they are in the games code like that so I added them
>Torterra so big, there's almost no background
It also has the worst emotes.
Not to worry sleepy thread I shall protect her smile
>>24885399
Phox smiles are best smiles to protect
>Bought SMD
>Went back to Darkness not even 3 days later
I feel the 3D takes a lot of the charm of MD away compared to the sprites of the older games.
>>24885409
>Playing Darkness when Sky exists
A-anon...
>>24885409
I don't find those graphics particularly charming.
But for some other reason I can't put my finger on, Super isn't as charming.
>>24885409
Well i have the exact opposite opinion. The graphics are what makes SMD charming as a whole, previously story aspect was great but the dungeons were shitty and samey, now its fun and looking gorgeous
>>24885411
I know, I might return SMD and get it.
>>24883943
i was the one who uploaded it: https://mega.nz/#!5EBBDT7B!jSV9Y0mnoOWfyvBzpy2Me4gaNrxmGlHnisxj7yUxRJs
same link was also in projectpokemon i think.
it's all unsorted and full of unused portraits though
>15 gummis from one trip of Sky Tower
This better be enough for Togepi
>>24885439
it was, but no, i'm not doing this shit, not like this.
I'm doing Sky Tower again, but taking all the gummis, AND a lockon specs and pierce orb into the Dojo to throw them through the mons. If i wont use them, missing out on stat gain won't matter
Super Mystery Dungeon sheets have been accepted anons.
http://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/pokemonsupermysterydungeon/
I'm still working on the other sheets and I decided to format it like I planned in this post.
>>24882461
So uh, what exactly does the Speed stat do in Super? Is it worth buying Carbos to 255 it or is it ignorable?
>>24885512
ups accuracy
How good/bad is GtI?
>>24885480
great job, must be hell sorting through all that... i haven't started at it again
Just got the game from Santa Claus, and in the tutorial dungeon I notice I push my teammate and lose Belly instead of swapping places with them. Is swapping places removed from the game or is there a special command for it?
>>24886115
Oops, should've done more than two seconds of the tutorial, never mind.
>>24885409
>>24885418
I can see how you're both kind of right
The SMD dungeon tileset has more variety and detail than EoS, but EoS has a beautiful distinct art style
>>24885524
Not as good as the other games, but there are some good points. Worth playing if you can grab it used
Are all ''come check out my secret base'' missions Monster Houses?
>>24886404
nope
I think it works based on whether the pokemon is a shitbird or not
for instance, rotom is a shitbird, don't trust him, but eeveelutions are nice guys so you can trust them
Is there any official art of all the different continents like this?
>>24886404
No, some of them are just "come hang out with my friends/family!" The problem is you don't know which ones are legitimate or not until you get there.
>>24886404
I always carry a Petrify Orb just in case it is. Never know, but it's nice to have a panic button.
>>24886432
Counterpoint: Corsola seems like a pretty nice Pokemon and then fakes you out at the last possible second with its Monster House.
Also Snover, but you should see that one from a mile awayif you played Sky.
Save me senpai
pls
>>24885268
How much would it take to, say, go from level 26 to 41?
When do joy seeds start showing up, I'm about to finish the main story.
>>24886503
gimme your mon and i'll tell you how many cumulative Exp you need.
>>24886433
there's one super big file that shows up when Lapras travels and i'll post that once i figure out how to shrink the file size.
>>24886643
Mudkip
>>24886690
it takes 139353 cumulative exp to get to lv 41.
you need 30580 cumulative exp to get to lv 26, so that's like 108773 exp.
>>24886737
Guess I've got a thing to do thissummer
>>24886433
>>24886643
the top left part is really not there, but yeah.
there's a smaller version that includes that part but it has nothing anyway.
also this file went through lossy compression because i couldn't get compressor.io to work
Are the Sacred Ruins the World Abyss? They're both 40 floors and in generally the same place
>>24886789
Thank you very much!
>Sky Ruins
All right, do I just pray Sitrus Berries fall into my lap for prepping for this fight, or what? I'm pretty clueless.
>>24886789
what are those islands for again?
one holds the super dungeons, but the other two?
or is it one dungeon per island?
What the hell game? I wasn't expecting this being the twist at the end...
Seriously, the way the game ends right there. What the heck Japan? Is Mystery Dungeon where all the bittersweet ending writers go? Did you have meetings about how to twist the knife ALL the way in?
Who is a good partner for Chespin? Pikachu?
>>24886999
I'm assuming you're referring to the one near the center of the map and the one near the bottom center. Not sure what the center one is but the bottom one contains the Ice Altar (Kyurem).
>Drilbur Mines
>Fennekin partner is a little shit that won't go where I want
>get tactics
>everything works fine for the tutorial missions at school
>just me and Fennekin for the honey place
>switch to "Follow Me" to avoid Drilbur Mines issue
>Fennekin literally goes to where I stand no matter what and refuses to attack if I move to reposition
Is this on purpose? Is your partner just programmed to be a little shit in early dungeons?
>>24887018keep playing
>>24887018
Mystery Dungeon is actually a machine that is designed to absorb all you sadness for a WMD.
>>24887123
The follow me tactic will make them prioritize getting closer to you above all else. Including attacking.
Let's go together is the best tactic for regular use.
>>24887157
Darn, I had heard before I started playing that Follow Me was supposed to be like the old AI, guess it won't be that useful.
Another thing I have to ask, I notice shit like Apples only give you a maximum Belly increase for the current dungeon. Is there a point where it becomes permanent or do only Big Apples give a permanent increase (if even they do)?
>>24887161
What do you want your partner to be doing?
The AI in this game will make the pokemon try to stand back and use ranged moves if they have any. Is that what the problem is?
>>24887155
This sounds strangely familiar.
>>24887155
WMD?
>>24887167
It might be, actually, since Fennekin has Ember and Psybeam. In Drilbur Mines it kept moving around trying to hit from a distance while the single enemy kept wailing on me, and if I tried to move to get away the enemy would move too which meant Fennekin had to reposition. If that's the specific cause then I can probably just plan around it, though.
This game has been harder than I expected, I heard about the difficulty spikes in places but just in general it seems enemies are a lot more lethal than in past games, a single one can fuck me and my partner up together even when one of us has a type advantage.
>>24887181
If you disable it's ranged moves, it will move in closer to attack.
>>24887179
Weapon of Mass Destruction
>>24887181
Just make sure to liberally use Wands and Alliances.
>enemies that waste your time by using mud sport and spamming Uproar
Uproar doesn't even hurt in Blue
>grab 1600 gold worth of stuff from a kecleon shop
>have 47k
>don't pay and kill kecleon
>>24877322
Fucking Dedenne
>>24887263
>trying to do a rescue
>make it to the floor
>there's a kecleon shop in the next room over
>don't have the money for it so i steal
>it's only a few steps over, what could possibly go wrong?
>mfw kecleon's travel speed
>partner becomes your friend and gives you their scarf
>walks right beside you to class the next day instead of behind like traditional following AI
It's the little things.
>>24885353
It seems Greninja's tongue is always wrapped in one direction, the flipped sheets are slightly changed to reflect that.
>>24887407
Yeah, pokemons with asymmetric heads get two sets of portraits. Absol is another case despite having no expressions.
/pmdg/ I have a burning fucking question
I bought that new piece of shit and opened it for christmas, there's some bullshit about cool or cute and I NEED to know if this is an opportunity to finally have my partner be a female chikorita and finally give myself a massive fucking errectiong
>>24887476
Cool = male partner, Cute = female partner
and you can choose your partner's species so enjoy
>>24887480
bless your fucking soul anon
>>24887480
Wait, what's the difference between male and female story-wise? (I chose cool.)
>>24887490Absolutely nothing.
>>24886494
Are you still there?
>>24887355
I really really enjoy how the partner attempts to walk beside you in this game. It's the extra mile that makes me less like the tactical leader and more like a partner. It's also real fuckin cute musical note.
I just got to Poliwrath River with Piplup and Torchic as me and my partner. I used the wondermail codes for TMs but since they're one use I wonder if I should really use them just yet.
Any of them especially good for either of them? Also is there a way to get egg moves? Piplup and Torchic both get agility but it's an egg move for both
>>24887582
There's no way to get egg moves that I know of.
Grass Knot is good on Piplup especially for that dungeon, and Flamethrower is good on Torchic as a more reliable long-distance attack.
>tfw just started today
This game is cute af, and stuff like alliance moves and the droplets are really fun mechanics. I'm glad I got it. Also, Volcanion isn't in, right?tfw can't download theme without updating ironfall homebrew
So what is this Bermuda Triangle thing by the Air continent and why is Articuno's dungeon not in it?
>>24887693
No Volcanion here.
Who'd you chose as your dude and partner?
>>24887693
No Volcanion, but we mmmmmmight get it as DLC later.
There's literally every other Pokemon though.
>>24887700
>>24887706
I see
Also, the number of Members on a team was reduced by 1, right? I guess 4 could get a bit clogged up sometimes on older games.
>tfw wigglytuff guild members sometimes on the khangaskan house
I love this fucking game. They managed to get back from GtI being absolute shit with this.
>>24887721
Only three party members now, but there's no limit on guest party members (I think one dungeon makes you go into it with like, eight people).
>>24887721
3 and guests
Gtl is pretty important plot-wise, but eeeh
How come there aren't any ROM hacks for PMD games? I'd totally play them if they existed.
>>24887700
Oh, and I picked Turtwig and Piplup, who I named after me and Penguin, because I suck at names. I have no idea what I'll call the Exploration Team.
>>24887731
Good lord. Eight? Man, handling 4 was clunky, handling 3 and an escort was hard, but 8? That's going to be interesting, at least.
>dumbass torchic keeps using ember on water-types despite the fact that quick attack will hit that same fucking target
>every other fucking floor it runs out of PP for ember
literally why
also still debating if it's worth just using a fuckton of items to avoid fights or to save them all for the bosses while trudging through floors
I'm only three hours in and i'm getting my shit slapped. Is it me or did they nerf the neutral+a move into complete uselessness?
>>24887753
Rescue Team and Explorers are compiled in a really shitty way where you can't edit pretty much anything without the game being unplayable.
Gates and PSMD can possibly prove different but I don't think there's a hacking scene for those games yet.
But hey, you can always play Rescue Rangers :^)
>>24887791
Buy elixirs and wait to use em a few floors. Auto attack is nothing anymore.
>>24887763
Hm, you're going to have to cherish that penguin you know. As for me, I made the mistake of naming my partner after my favorite shitty romance option in another game. It was not a mistake to name my team Voyeurism though.
>>24887741Are you trying to say the bittercold is dark matter!?
>gyarados used hydro pump
>>24887843I dunno anon, why don't we go back 1000 years to the last malevolent consciousness apocalypse and see if they match up?
>>24887866It's not like you can't meet anyone who can bring you there just to check
>>24887872Hydreigon confirmed.
>>24887810
People can changed smaller things in these games now, though.step by step we will erase Rescue Rangers from history.
that's not even a PMD game. it's a PMD wannabe game.
>>24887917
Why would you want to remove such a well-written game from existence?
>>24887917
>>24887932
someone post the screencap posted in here earlier in the year, i lost it
>>24887932
What the hell is this?
>>24887908Oh, but that opens up a huge can of worms of temporal disparity!
>>24887932
Because it ruined someone's broSlashapparently.
Also it's just not how PMD works.
It'd be great if it didn't pretend to be PMD.
>>24887954Is the human character the same human in every game, but catalyzed from different points with similar amnesia? Have you been the guardian protector of this realm for centuries?
>>24887954We'll call Dialga on that.
He retconned your "death" in Explorers, surely he can do that?
>>24887961Explorers doesn't quite fit in, cause you're from the bad future; unless human world is the bad future or something.
Also, GtI had multiple humans, but they got killed off.
why can't we have a game where's nobody special because there are like 10 humans running around, trying as a group to save the woorld.
>>24887972
>>24887965
>>24887961So the games suggest that, they're different humans, there's avatar/player disparity, or there is some sort of world-merging going on? I am firmly on the third camp, to be honest.
>>24887972
>guild place in next game
>everyone acts surprised when you say you're a human
>in actuality every single pokemon there was a human turned pokemon, but the keep it from eachother
>>24887999
I really like howJirachi doesn't give a shit about you being a human and says it's just a thing that happens then fucks off.
I'd rather knowwhat happened to Fogbound Lake, it is clearly not anymore in the map with Heart Lake replacing it, even Mesprit is in the same area in general.
>>24887999Other guild members obtained from StreetPass
>>24887961Ninetales would have probably recognized you in that case
>visit Pelipper Island for the first time in PSMD
>rescue missions are offline only
W-Why
That was my favorite part of Explorers, going online and helping out strangers, it kept me playing the game until Wi-Fi got shut down.
>>24888030Perhaps Groudon or a similar legendary made the lake evaporate and then Kyogre filled in the spot with a new one? I know that sounds like bullshit but it's probably no better than whatever official explanation there is for that.
>>24888038If the official explanation were "an earthquake crashed the whole mountain down and a new lake had to be dug out" I'd believe it
>>24888036
you can do qr code jobs posted here but still
Could someone rescue me please?
>>24888194
On it
>>24888007I wonder if that's because everyone's aware of what happened before
>>24888211
Thanks.
>>24888231
Only 3 more floors senpai
>>24888250
Thanks alot!
Think Jirachi will give me a good mon i need next time?
Does your partner's gender affect anything if their species doesn't have a difference?
That Darkrai fight in SMD is literally the dumbest fucking thing ever.
>Darkrai used Ominous Wind!
>Darkrai's stats went up!
>Darkrai used Dark Void!
>the Party went to sleep
>Darkrai used Ominous Wind!
Fuck you Chunsoft
>>24888424
Just show him yourstunningmoves.
>>24888424
>Darkrai Dungeon
>Not using sleep guards
What did you think he was going to do?
>>24888486
I guess I didnt think that one through, but its still a bullshit strategy
How to beat any boss in SMD 100000% guaranteed flawless!!!
1) Truant Wand
2) type advantages
3) ???
4) you win
>>24888557
Nah I got a better one
1) Braixen with max Heat Wave and 285 sp. atk.
2) Type Bulldozer
3) She protects your smile
>>24888567
>braixen
>>24888486
>mfw I had a feeling he'd spam sleep moves but didn't find a single Sleep Guard emera
>>24888567
>not even delphox
shiggy diggy
>>24887937
You mean this?
>>24888677
Me too, Chimecho. Me too.
>>24888677
Still can't believe Broken Timeline (or the beta at least, I know Jagold scrapped all the work in the one to start from scratch) is somehow a worse game.
>>24888677
>tfw was first post there
Do you think they'll ever go back to having two separate versions for PMD?
>>24888786
Probably not. There wasn't any major differences between Time and Darkness.
If they do go that way again, I'd like to see something like Oracle of Ages/Seasons where you can play them in either order and then carry some stuff over to the 2nd one and unlock new content you wouldn't see withouting beating the other one first.
I'm really curious as to whatever crisis the next PMD game will bring.
>[un]natural disasters
>time fuckery
>DESPAIR
>Tales of Symphonia
Where will they go next?
>>24888811
Parallel universes and god-slaying fanatics who roid better than you do
What's the deal with the emera dust? Watchog said that if you colected enough an emera would come out, but I've picked quite a bit of it and nothing happens.
>>24888896
If you walk over enough dust (like 12-20, seems semi-random) then it spawns a random emera.
>>24888811
1) Humans attempting colonization/conquest/re-colonization of the PMD world
2) Overpopulation
3) No new mystery dungeons to explore and loot have been found in a long time, the pokemon economy collapses. Possibility of plot in the form of Palkia being fed up of the space fuckery these dungeons had.
4) New mystery dungeon actually ancient missile launch base. Someone accidentally launches all the nukes.
5) Distortion world spilling all over the other worlds, connecting them
6) Children of Men scenario
7) Industrial revolution
>>24888957
The entirety of SPMD I was kinda waiting for Zygarde to start getting pissed, cuz it was kinda obvious Yveltal and Xerneas were very heavily involved in the plot. If they fuck the environment in the next game then surely it's time for a thousand arrow anal rampage.
Alright, I'm new and want to know how this rescue thing works, never got to experience it since I got sky after the hype left. I got knocked out by RNG crits, on an early level, F2.
It's a fast thing, so if anyone could come and rescue me I'd appreciate it, just to know how it works.
>>24888984
I was expecting Xerneas itself to do anything earlier, what with literally dying.
>>24888957
>industrial revolution in a world where technology like the connection orbs exist
>>24889016
Why in a pokemon game do wego to hell and start getting hunted down by a bunch of lost souls?
>>24888957
>1) Humans attempting colonization/conquest/re-colonization of the PMD world
This would be cool, but hasn't the PMD world been established to be its own planet? Unless we're talking humans that have colonized other planets or some shit.
post the most dashing wanderer
>>24889028
Literally magic for all they care. Except for Jirachi, who is an asshole and probably not even a genius.
>>24889030
Same reason why you went to the future and almost got executed: plot
>>24889040
There were the lab and power plant friend areas in the Rescue games, and they haven't been outright retconned yet.
>>24889040
>Humans attempt to colonize pokemon world
>Someone gets turned into a pokemon
>They help the other pokemon fight the humans off their planet
james cameron please
>>24889002
Nevermind, a friend rescued me.
>>24889095
>Humans become pokemon as soon as they get to the pokemon world because pokerus/Arceus wills it/plot device
>Having to find and reveal other humans turned into pokemon sent there to destabilize society and help conquer the planet
>an evil guild composed out of those humans
>The EotS bad future human is still left unexplained
Lookin for a good PMD to play. I remember played either Time or Darkness before. I forgot which, its whatever has Primal Dialga. I don't have a 3ds though, so I guess my options are limited.
Will I enjoy Sky? From the looks of it its the same storyline though.
>>24889301
Sky is my personal favorite. The story is The Same But More compared to Time and Darkness, adding in some backstory as well as dungeons that aren't in the other two.
>>24889301
Sky is to Time and Darkness as Emerald was to Ruby and Sapphire. Same story line, just altered a bit with more content.
>>24889318
>>24889319
Can I play with Flygon and Sableye in my team? Whats the size of teams again?
>>24889301
Regarding new content, the special episodes alone are worth jumping over to Sky.
Special episodes DLC for PSMD when?
>>24889327
Eventually, yes.Four pokemons a team, only a few ones take more than one slot.
>>24889327
4 pokemon on a team max. Flygon and Sableye are available, but Sableye is rather far in. Very extensive postgame though, so you'll get plenty of opportunity to recruit it.
>>24889349
>Special episodes DLC for PSMD when?
I hope we get more dungeons via Wonder Mail, the three that are already there are kinda shit.
>>24889351
yeah I remember that was a crew of Villain Sableye?
>>24889431yes, but sableye is recruitable very late into the full story.
is anyone sure how joy looplets work in this game? Before someone said +1hp for every step, but I know thats not it.
>>24889517
You sure it wasn't +1 EXP? I've gotten a few level ups just from walking around with a Joy Looplet.
So it's been a while since I've been here.
Did Sacred Ruins anon finally beat Sacred Ruins?
>>24889878
Yes.
One of threads was 'Actually beating Sacred Ruins edition'
>>24889878
I am not the anon who did this, but here you go.
>Start a new Sky playthrough because Sky is always fun
>Pick Eevee as a partner
>Forgot about Run Away
Protecting her smile is going to be hard if she keeps running off and fainting
>>24889878
No, someone beat me to the punch while i was revisiting Blue >>24890410
>>24890428
I once took Phanpy+Eevee. Never again
>Get a Thunderbolt TM froma random D rank bounty
wew thanks
>>24890576
>meanwhile i get missions to the 95th floor of Purity Forest for a Torment TM