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Actually beating Sacred ruins edition. Old thread >>24851337
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
Side topic: If you could main ONE pokemon in PMD, who would it be?
At level 14, Kecleon totally outdoes a level 7 Alakazam in every stat but HP. This is important because level matters a lot for damage dealt, and Kecleon levels twice as fast overall. By the look of things, Alakazam's only advantage is the ability to run away, which is still vital
Any luck defeating Mewtwo in SMD?
>>24861643
If you want to cheese, use Curse with a ghost, and throw a Ban Seed at Mewtwo when it uses Recover
>>24861609
how hard is the new mystery dungeon?
I remember that in blue rescue team there was a dungeon where the game resets the level of your party to 1 and you can't level up or something inside there, shit was difficult as fuck.
also, pic. related was basically a survival horror by the time you get to travel in time searching for dusknoir.
>>24861664
The level 1 dungeons let you level up, but it's still hard.
SMD has a level 5 dungeon that's even harder
>>24861652
Curse would work? I was left with the impression Mewtwo is unaffected with certain moves. Horn drill and spite would not hit.
27 floors into Wish Cave and not a single Leaf Stone
>>24861685
Curse is more or less a boss killer
So I made my attempts with Hawlucha, and I was surprisingly doing pretty well. I usually kept dying at floor 11, but now I actually managed to make it to floor 23 (where I stupidly used a Two-Edged Wand on Primeape and he one shot me because I forgot he used Screech).
There's more pokemon: Claydol and Ivysaur apparently, and Sawk and Throh. Oh, and Bibarel.
Other thing: this dungeon is an utter troll. Seriously. Second picture here I actually had those 4 fucking Ledyba spawn literally on my screen on the fucking stairs.
>>24861609
>If you could main ONE pokemon in PMD, who would it be?
The best
I would be maining them in SMD if that fucker Victini would show up already
>38f of wish cave
>STILL no Leaf Stone
At least I got 6 Sitrus Berries i guess
What level were you when you reached Lively town?
>>24861609
I'm getting a burnt out of the game
How do I motivate myself for connecting to the last 100 Pokemon remaining?
>>24862046
play something else for a little bit. I switch between a fresh Sky playthrough and SMD
>>24862046
You can be part of the cool kids club if you recruit everything
Does anyone have a good image of the tree of life? Not the tree itself but the glyph looking one like on the background of the boxart or the scenes with the final boss?
>>24862058
>Switch over to Sky for a change of pace
>End up dropping SMD entirely for the past few weeks
>>24862083
>switch to blue to recruit everything
>quit playing smd
SMD REALLY needed repeatable missions
>>24862090
It sucks too. Once you get all the Pokemon you pretty much get a "Well, now what?" moment
>>24862090
Not sure why they couldn't put it in. Gates had repeatable missions (though you could only do one at a time), and it's obvious that a lot of things were taken from Gates for Super. If they didn't want to use the connection orb for it they could just use the board in front of the guild, couldn't they?
>>24862145
Or they could even have kept the connection orb, but offered random missions with rewards other than the Pokemon joining you.
>playing Explorers of Sky
>need link cables
>look online for Wonder Mail passwords
>they all end with me only getting money as reward
>try making my own through Wonder Mail generator
>same thing
Anyone else experience this?
>>24862315
no, which wondermail generator are you using
>>24862326
This one.
http://apointlessplace.net/wms/wmgenerate.html
It's worked in the past before, just now all of a sudden whenever I try getting any item as reward it just gives me coins.
Same thing happens if I try and choose recruit reward as well.
>>24862338
weird, I used this one a few days ago and it worked fine for me
>>24861643
Bring a Pokemon with Memento, and spam Memento at least two times so Mewtwo Gets hella nerfed. Feel free to bring a Ban Seed to cancel out his/her Recover.
>>24862046
I'm a little burned out too. It's not a bad thing, so just come back to it after playing a little bit of Smash or some other game/hobby.
I've come up with a idea for a degenerate fanfic as I usually do
The human and their partner from SMD finally receive the call from Arceus to climb Destiny Tower once they are swole enough explorers. Format of the writing is in journal entries from Mawile, who begs to come along because the research opportunity to meet a deity and travel an unknown sacred tower is dank as fuck. The judgements and trials within immediately begin to fuck with everyone and all that jazz, illusions of sinners and loved ones n shit.
>>24862393
yeah but do they fuck
>>24862400
The main two did a few times I suppose.
But 99 floors would be a week in actuality or soemthing
>>24862417
ok good enough
>50f of wish cave
>no leaf stone/kings rocks in sight
>>24862448
just generate it :^)
>>24862448
>75f
>this shop has jack shit too
this game is too fun yo.
>>24862510
>end of the dungeon
>i get no reward because i recruited jirachi
>all i have to show for my efforts are 11 Sitrus Berries
Can i release Jirachi and recruit them later? I want to make wishes again
>Sandshrew is my favorite Pokemon
>literally the first time you meet one in-story is in Pokemon Hell
T-thanks Chunsoft
>Get a monster house on a 3x XP day
>No orbs
looks like I'm funneling pokemon down a hall to their death for 10 minutes
Is blue better than red? what are the differences?
>>24862629
map on top screen, along with health.
More or less, it's the same game as Red
So I love Pokemon and haven't played Mystery Dungeon since Red/Blue Rescue team. My only question is what is there to do once I beat the game? Can I keep playing and doing quests and stuff?
>>24862644
in SMD, you can recruit all the pokemon and try your hand at level 5 dungeons, but after you recruit everything, that's it if you dont want to do level 5
Don't let that discourage you from playing though, i still got a LOT of time out of the game, some people recruit everything in 70, i got it in like 190
>>24861932
I got victini almost immediately. Don't even use it.
Is it me, or is Riolu the only non-starter pokemon that you can start with in this game?
>>24862544
Yeah, you can do that. All legendaries go back to their dungeons if you release them.
>>24862674
because Riolu and Pikachu ARE the only non starters
>>24862680
I omitted Pikachu because Pokemon Yellow.
>>24862676
The Latis go away for good though right?
Also, how the fuck am i supposed to know what Unown i recruit? At least in explorers they were highlighted in yellow when i checked in dungeon
I finally found Victini in the Sand Continent Cafe
and the fucker doesn't want to talk
I am not allowed to get to Glaceon am I...
>>24862393
What Pokemon are you making the main character and partner? Because if it's not what I picked it's wrong.
>Technician Cinccino
>>24862822
Dunno, I might just use mine. I might not evolve them. I just dunno.My partner's a braixen, though
>>24862870>Braxien
good taste
Hows the connection orb coming along for you guys?
682/720 here, mostly legends left in annoyingly long dungeons and travelling Pokemon that don't want to spawn.
Im going for Mesprit right now, somebody tell me that I get all 3 going through this piece of shit.
>>24862338
It's not the generator fucking up on you, Anon, it's the game making sure you don't start off with the shit it doesn't want you having until it's relevant to the main plot/it's been elaborated upon in an event that takes place as you go along with the story.
To make it short, let's say I wanted a White Silk as a quest reward to just make things simple. I'm a bit early on in the story, but I still want that because, I don't know, I don't agree with how those type buffs are handed out and the like.
Basically, the game wouldn't allow me to get it because, since I'm early on in the story, I haven't met Croagunk yet to have him elaborate on his shop, which allows you to get those sorts of items. The same goes for a lot of items in this way, so basically you could easily get a Wonder Chest/Golden Mask on your first adventure, but you couldn't get like exclusive items and the like.
>>24863245
lol
>>24862670
This. I'm not understanding how hard it is for people to get victini.
>>24863285
This theory seems logical, except that I'm well into the game already.
I have roughly 25 hours of play time and beat the man story. Currently doing Sunflora's story located in Surrounding Sea.
I've also previously used the generator to give me a couple of link cables already for my Electabuzz and Kadabra.
I'm thinking somehow the game limits 2 items to be rewarded from the Wonder Mail system or something. Even though it also doesn't work for recruitment rewards, but I never got that to work.
This whole thing is really strange.
>>24863600
I've no idea then, Anon. Sorry to disappoint.
Hopefully, it works out on its own.
Has there been any fun codes yet for Super, or any extra content like that?
What's the best way to get money?
is SMD a lot harder than the other ones? I never had issues on the other ones, but SMD is kicking my ass
I'm not sure how I can beat the poliwrath brothers
I have mudkip and cyndaquil, for clarification.
>>24863988
Wands and orbs nigga. Quit being a pack rat and use your shit.
>>24861642
This. Keckleon in Rescue Team is way better than Alakazam in a level 1 dungeon.
Also, please send help.
How do I get Ninjask?
>>24863245
667 here.
Does anybody know how to connect to Kecleon. I keep talking to him but still nothing
>>24864148
I got him right when I hit 700
Do proteins/calciums have a cap?
>>24864328
No, but stats aside from HP have a cap of 255.
Someone please respond quickly, would an almost 7 year old be able to play Super Mystery Dunngeon?
>>24864056
What dunge-
oh fuck it, like i could ever fail anyways. Give me a bit
>>24864600
they'd probably get frustrated with it desu
>>24864600
Considering how much my little brother used the standard attack to save PP in Red, no.
>>24864796
this is all I did
using actual attacks felt tantamount to treason to me when I was 10
>>24864796
>>24864847
>not leveling your main so much you 1shot everything with it
default attacks were broken
default attacks being shit in SMD is fine because it makes elixirs a bit more relevent and it also makes going mega really awesome
>>24864961
It shouldn't be so damned weak though. It's shitty being forced to burn even more PP just to KO this mon that's 20hp from death
>>24864056
Merry christmas
>>24865067
Thanks anon!
>Recruit Porygon
>Its Attack is higher than its Special Attack
I wonder how stats are determined in these games.
>>24865239
There are a bunch of fuckhuge stat tables for each Pokémon determining stat growth for each level.
Though how the developers determined the values to put in those tables I'm not sure. I doubt they did it manually, but every Pokémon seems to have unique stats, excluding evolutions.
Only took me 5 tries, Heatran is fucking OP.
>2 wandering pokemon one floor apart
my dick
and it was on the whiscash quest so I got 7 pokemon done in one short go
Could someone please post excited Sunkern?
>>24865468
Thanks, etc.
>>24865320
Shit, nice! Was this the same guy that did Hawlucha?
Either way, the more info I get on these pokemon, the better.
>tfw lost motivation for rescue team after that run of wish cave turned up only sitrus berries
what do
>>24865320
Congrats anon!
>>24865564
Nah, i'm another anon.
Well if you want to know anything else that's not mentioned in your guide, basically having Magma Storm on your moveset is a must. That attack hits SO HARD, it can 2HKO a Delphox most of the time w/ Type Bulldozer. You'll also want to save your wands for the occasional Primeape, Bellossom, Alomomola or Cloyster, since they can end your run in one shot.
Heatran also has really decent stats at the beginning(18 Atk, 17 SpAtk and 45 HP are the ones I remember), but you'll need to use alot of speed boosting emeras.
Heatran really is a solid pick, though you'll find yourself relying on alot of elixirs. I lost 3 of my runs because I ran out of PP.
>that first dungeon you play after leaving the village
I thought it would never end. I always had too much apples taking up space but this time I couldn't get enough of them. Just when my belly was down to just 10 I find 2 apples just there. It's great living dangerously.
>>24865719
that shit made me over prepare for the one after it
>>24865564
>TWO anons have beaten you to finishing Sacred Ruins
How does it feel?
>First playthrough, beat the main story at level 26
>Second playthrough, level 24 at chapter 13
holy shit exploring the entire floor before going on changes things a lot
Goddamn does having clairvoyance and big ears emeras make my life magnitudes easier. I hate playing the, "WHO THE FUCK PICKED UP THAT APPLE?!" game.
Why is it that ever single time I go to a huge dungeon the stairs are always in the last room I check, no matter what path I take?
>>24865922
That's like asking why PP-Zero traps always drain your most important move or why that one emera never appears.
Okay, got my level-100 max IQ Jirachi with Golden Mask. What are the odds of recruiting Darkrai and Kecleon?
>>24865867
Know-it-all, surveyor, and stair checker make it so you literally just have the whole map always, sans traps. I've never gotten more than one of those in any dungeon ever.
>>24866130
I've got 80 hours in and never seen any of those emeras. What do the first two do? I assume stair checker shows the stairs
>>24866206
Know-it-all is a combination of big ears and clairvoyance, surveyor gives you all the shape of the floor but none of the details, and stair checker is duh.
>>24865719
Man, that place was horrifying. There's upping the difficulty, and then there's just flicking it from Easy to Nightmare
>>24866264
I really hate how story missions don't tell you how many floors a dungeon might have, and whether a boss might be waiting.
>>24866281
What made it worse was how it was fucking huge. And 90% of paths lead to dead-ends
And there's, what, 12 floors? 15? Feels like you've been there forever when it's only the first floor
>>24865719
That dungeon made me mad enough that I just threw all my items and gold into the deposit box and just went through with nothing. That way I could tell myself I was getting exp/move exp instead of just restarting several times.
>>24865719
I loved that place, with each passing floor I got more and more worried that I was going to fail because of how many apples and elixers I burned through.
Muh immersion
Playing SMD. Justgot my partner back.What do you recommend I do now?
>>24866362
Protect_her_smile and make_her_dream come true by completing the Pokemon Nexus
>>24866362
Get treasure, recruit Pokemon, etc.
>>24866053
For Darkrai, 28%.
For Kecleon, 0.5%
>>24866374
>TFW Partner isPokehusbando.
>You will neverevolve for the first time in the main storyagain
what was your reaction /pmdg/?
>>24866448
I coulda sworn it was used as a promotional thing, so I wasn't blown the fuck out.
But still, Serperior animations and super sayian tho
someone pls halp ;-;
>>24866476
>>24866476
I was at work and lost my shit. Im pretty sure my coworkers think I have autism now.
>>24866534
Luckily I beat the game in my room at 3 in the morning so I could cry at the credits all I wanted
>>24866555
nice trips m80
>>24866527
pls ;-;
>>24861609
I'd main Srcraggy and then Scrafty when I got the chance to evolve.
>>24866601
I got you!
>>24866614
God bless you anon. Klink's electro ball was giving it to me hard
>>24866696
Is there any item you want me to send you in return??
>>24866710
A reviver seed would be nice. A boss just sappedall of mine.
>>24866642
Yeah, it sucks. Don't go to Star Cave for it, because you can't recruit anything there.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT FINALLY VICTININow I get to wait ages for Glaceon to show up in a dungeon ;__;
>>24866805
How many missions have you done? I have found most of the wandering Pokemon while I was in a dungeon for other missions. Just don't leave the dungeon when the game says "there may be something ahead"
>>24866816
I just want to get to Glaceon before the game forces my dumb ass into the guantlet so that I can grab XP forher
>>24866885
I couldn't get Mienshao until post-game, so I just ended up not caring about members
>Summon Hoopa for the first time
>It summons 2 enemies then fucks off on it's own and dies
quality
>trying to roid Jellicent and Flygon
>Jellicent is open but Flygon is closed
>ok I'll just run through Open Pass quickly
>do that
>Flygon is open but Jellicent is closed
>ok I'll just run through Open Pass quickly
>do that
>Jellicent is open but Flygon is closed
>ok I'll just run through Open Pass quickly
>do that
>Flygon is open but Jellicent is closed
>>24865779I was playing Blue Rescue Team to recruit all the pokemon, but i was hoping to be the first. At least we got definite info on THE pokemon to use
>>24866955
Just use Pelipper Island
>>24866642
Rescue Team was 0.1%, but they were far weaker
There's apparently Stunfisk in Sacred Ruins that pop out of the ground after paralyzing you and proceed to one shot you with Fissure. Never saw it coming.
>>24867120
bullshit
>>24866951
CONNECTED!
>>24861643
Curse makes all legends easy
>>24862046
Play something else, I'm replaying Pikmin 3 and metroid prime so I won't be so burnt out
>listening to the OST because hotdamn the music's good
>hear the final boss___Phase 2music
>realize it's an arrangement ofThe Partner's Theme
STOP FUCKING STOP
I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS
Time for the joys of recruiting unown. Mystery Dungeon makes me wish they were never made, because that's 28 useless mons to recruit, and i need 27 of them. So that makes about 9 Escape Orb uses minimum
Is Power Up Punch good for Machop/choke/champ?
>>24867233
You're the main character, this game isn't about you
It's about their smile
>>24867120
>2nd go
Fuck, a Joy Seed in Kecleon's shop. Why would you do this to me game?
Edited my level 1 dungeon guide! Added in was some much needed info about Rescue Team's dungeons, including a grinding tip for Wish Cave and a Kecleon recommendation.
http://pastebin.com/nAMMGxA2
I need every pokemon in blue, and this calls for drastic measures. Things I'd never do outside of this.
I'm off to the Unown Relic to recruit.
posted yesterday in here asking if the game was worth it and if it would make me smile
just wanted to update: ltierally fuck all of you i didnt sign up for this fucking rollercoaster fuck this fucking shit this is a fucking childrens game fucking fuck ass fuck
>>24867468
Cherish them, anon
They're your best friend
>>24867468
> this is a fucking childrens game
Please elaborate.
>>24867468
>>24867491
>this is a game
Please elaborate.
>>24867500
>this exists
Please elaborate.
>>24867530
>this
Please elaborate.
>>24867539
>Please elaborate.
Please elaborate.
Where's a good place to get escape orbs in Blue? I'm nearly all out
>>24867581
Silver Trench and Pitfall Valley are pretty good for Escape Orbs, iirc.
By the time I got back to where I started I had lost nearly 30 Belly points.
>>24867590
Grand Sea I remember being good for orbs, and i was right, an Escape Orb in room 1
>>24867688
>Team Charm
Easily the worst episode. How can you be a leader of a team if you can't even use a hold item?
>>24867348
>I have yet to see how good Kecleon is in Purity Forest, so I do not know how well it survives Parasect
Parasect fuck everything up because they're level 30 and have about 55 Attack, judging from my recruited Parasect. Leech Life is a 2-3 hit KO for most things.
>>24867707
Kecleon has to be better than Alakazam against Parasect. By that point, you'll easily be more than double Alakazam's level, and Kecleon's levelups are FAR better than Zam's +1 hp +1 attack bullshit
That being said, Parasect is still THE biggest threat in Purity Forest. Simply put, you'll want an Insomniscope for floors 80 onwards.
>>24867697
It's awful.
>Medicham knows Calm Mind but no special moves
>Lopunny's Jump Kick does less damage than Pound to Steel-types
>Have to turn off all of Gardevoir's moves but Confusion to keep her from dying constantly
>Even though both are set to the default tactic, Gardevoir insists on acting as a human shield while Medicham just stands there during fights
>>24867718
>Master rank
They must have done a TON of Beach Cave runs
>tfw you beat Salamence at level 11 and he is now connected with you
feels ebin mang :^)
>>24867751
good work anon
>>24867751
Have fun taking it along on lots of missions~
>>24867756
>>24867799
Thanks, I will. I didn't know the level gap was gonna be huge like this aha
Who here has completed PSMD? I'm 710 connections deep with a ton of dungeons left to finish.
>>24867996
720/720 100% map 77 hours here. I'd show a screen but it's not my 3DS that I played it on.
at least recruiting unown in Blue is nothing compared to the living hell that was Aegis Cave
>>24867996
All done here.
>>24868026
I'm 165 hours in and I'm still not done.
Holy shit, I did it! I finally completed Sacred Ruins!
Had some amazing luck after the 25th floor. I could two shot everything and anything. Was really running out of apples, but I found a Joy Seed on the ground and a bunch of Tiny Reviver Seeds too (and a Brick Break!)
Pyroar and Bellossom nearly got me a few times, and one monster house filled to the brim with enemies nearly ended me on floor 22.
It helps to explore the entire floor before moving on on the earlier floors to level up and get all the items. Hawlucha's the best for this dungeon; I tried Heatran a few times, but it didn't give me the boost I needed like Hawlucha does. You'll be able to two shot enemies once you get passed lv. 12 and use Hone Claws about 3 times (depending on all the emeras you find of course).
I need a break now...
>>24868270
Can you give Malamar a shot? I want to know if it can get into the very tiny circle of those that can complete it. I got to 27F with it once, but Contrary Superpower seemed to quit working for no reason
I swear I feel like psmd is so damn hard sometimes.
>>24868362
If I have never felt this does that mean I'm good at video games?
>>24868378
It means you've been lucky
>>24868382
What justifies unlucky?
The only time I died during the main story was to an earthquake vibrava taht evolved.
>>24868392
The game isn't "difficult" unless you speed through floors and force yourself to be underleveled
most of the challenge comes from random shit like spawning in big ass rooms with an enemy with roomclear all the way away from you or critical hits/multihit moves
>>24868392
Almost every first dungeon is super effective against me or my moves do jack shit -_-
Got all of the Unown! Now I can wish for recruits properly. Wish Cave is a pushover, but I'll do that tomorrow, I'll just evolve some mons for now
Well it took a long ass time to do, but I finally finished renaming all the mugshots. I'll upload a version with the mugshots cropped for all of you anons once I finish checking over the names along with a couple other things..
>>24868627
I must have been more tired than I thought while naming these because I somehow managed to name 10 random mugshots "dunsparse"
I don't have any idea how I managed that.
>>24868282
Once I'm done taking a break (that is, sleep lol), I might take a crack at it. It's really luck based though.
How did Contrary stop working exactly? Did it stop after a few stat gains/loss or just randomly?
Btw, I've been writing down all of the mons that appeared in the dungeon. There is a lot of them, some I was really surprised to find on my attempts and there's some serious threats on the higher floors (such as Pyroar). I hope this is helpful to you:
http://pastebin.com/MvVQ5gy3
Everything in this dungeon is made to kill you. The weather in this dungeon also randomly changes to screw you over.
>>24868675
Superpower just stopped buffing my stats randomly. I haven't the faintest idea what happened, if an enemy used String Shot on me it'd still buff my speed, but i could turn around and Superpower them only to get my stats lowered.
Either way, it's nice to have some extra help finding out good strategies for this place, even if I'm slacking by playing Blue to recruit everything.
Mystery Dungeon music really is great
>>24868689
Strange. Did you try resetting the stats with a wonder tile nearby and raising/lowering the stats again? Maybe it can't stack raised and lowered certain stats at one time.
If there's anything else I can add to your guide, you really need to be on the ball with items in this dungeon and explore the entire floor(s). Get absolutely everything if possible. Sparkles are everywhere, and selling loopets and saving money is a must for Reviver Seeds in Kecleon's shop (has both tiny and regular, and joy seeds sometimes).
I wouldn't rush through the floors quickly unless you really need to, like from stronger enemies, monster houses, or status problems (or random weather).
>>24868735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-tt9cxSjOc best track in SMD. The ost's always the best thing about the PMD games.
>>24868735
Ya hold on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqDVIe6q4YY
>>24868789
>line-in recording
>OST
Disgusting
>>24866448
>nice deus ex machina
What exactly is the range of Fusion Flare? Ranged AOE? It works when I tried adjacent and two squares away, but not when the mon was diagonal adjacent. Did I make a mistake?
Remove Beheeyem
First mugshot sheet finished for the Spriters resource. I'm going to do the 2nd&3rd evos next some time later today. Right now I need sleep.
I am very unsure if I shouldevolve my starters in PSMD. MC is Totodile and partner is Chespin
What difference is there if I do?
>>24869534
You would get a different typing and a different move pool and lose the waking up animation for both Pokemon.
That's it.
Are move level ups retained if the move was obtained from a TM, forgotten, then obtained again?
>>24869476
Why only pikachu and the unova starters have this last animation?
>>24870244
use your brain
>>24870261
No thanks, I realized I don't care.
>>24870244
reused from GTI
>>24870582
Anyone got Axew's faces?
>>24861609
Just started, ended up as Riolu with fennekin. Why is this nuzleaf such a bitch?
>>24869679
All move growth is shared through the entire party. Once say, Ice Beam hits level 2, it'll be like that forever for every pokemon on your team
>>24870402
That's why you're retarded.
>>24870663
Because he's ascairt o' the ghosties.
>>24870682
Well that explains a few oddities.
Time to recruit some easy to recruit mons before I throw myself at Wish Cave a ton
>>24870888
Oh?
>Lunatone puppet's me
>Makes me cast a Slumber Wand on itself
thanks
>>24870582
Never played GtI, I keep hearing that the game is bad, I know that you can't recruit all mons but I didn't know that the starter options was limited like that.
pls help :(
>>24870637
http://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/pokemonmysterydungeongatestoinfinity/sheet/63215/
>>24871565
gotcha
>go to the 88th floor of Wish Cave and you get a Heal Seed
>Jirachi counts as a boss
Wut why
>>24871898
Because it was a boss you numb digger
Although I hear it's impossible to lose
I just bawled my eyes out at the credits to PMSD.
>>24871909
you can lose the fight but you just proceed to the next cutscene anyway
>>24871911
nice
>>24869476
2nd and 3rd evo sheet done.
Torterra is a strong candidate for worst expressions.
Halp
>>24871920
Apparently it really doesn't matter if you win or lose, I hear
>>24869476
>>24872239
Nice work, anon. When do you think they'll be uploaded?
>>24872549
I already uploaded them, but I don't know how long the approval process normally takes since these are my first uploads. I'm going to be working on the important NPCs next.
Is there a remix of :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcl3rZkOdyQ
?
>wind blows in Lapis Cave
>bubble sound, not unlike the water dungeons
This isn't even a water dungeon though.why wont nidorina join
>>24871920
I hated that scene.Chespin was too good of a partner to let go ;_;
>>24872633She joins with Nidoran (F)
>>24872740>blue rescue team
>>24872633
So how many do you have left to go?
>>24872758
147 pokemon left. Would be 146 but i released jirachi so i can wish.
>>24872766
>this tight belt is too tight
>my feet hurt
>none of these nidos are even joining
>i wish i was back in peanut swamp chilling out
>the damp conditions prevented an explosion!
It's becoming increasingly evident that there are two kinds of Pokemon in Explorers of Sky:
>Pokemon with Concentrator
>Worthless Pokemon
>>24873047
What are some mons that have that?
>>24873072
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_IQ_group
Any in groups C, D, and J. It makes their attacks almost aways hit. With any other IQ group, even basic moves seem to have a good 25% chance of missing.
>>24873047
Nah. There're fucktons of good IQ groups. Ironically, Concentrator is also in the worst one, specializing in throwing items, which is fucking C.
B is fucking amazing for party leader thanks to Deep Breather (free PP recovery while changing floors, and you're the one who uses most PP), Fast Friend, Nature Gifter iirc, Coin Watcher and ofc Trap Seer.
Not to mention B includes lot of good pokemons, including many water types which are often useful for water cheesing and obtaining treasures.
H is similar but has shit pokemon pool.
You want at least one pokemon with A or G iq groups because they have Map Surveyor and Stair Sensor. Those skills coupled with X-Ray item are godly and let you hunt for pokemons, items and avoid enemies really easy.
E iq group is surprisingly nice. Survivalist, Deep Breather, healing skills make exploration much cheaper (no need for much food, PP recovery items and healing items, especially if you have grass type, like Torterra), Sure Hit attacker makes you hit every fucking time with exception of fuckers with Forewarn ability (Drowzee and Smoochum evolutions), and stats don't matter because you can cap everything at 255 with stat boosters (HP is capped at 999) which deals decent damage, also Intimidator cockblocks your enemies pretty fucking often. It's rather good group for soloing dungeons. The only downside is lack of orientation skills and no status recovery.
Also I noticed having status healer like Miltank is fucking amazing. Heals evry fucking status and gets free PP recovery on floor change.
>tfw your favorite is in one of the best iq groups
>>24873172
What is your favourite, anon?
>>24873135
I've been leading my team with Jirachi in order to recruit all the legendaries, and having Confusion routinely miss twice in a row is torture. I stopped using Rotom because his Discharge would usually hit less than half of the enemies in a monster house.
>>24873179
>trap seer
>map surveyor/stair sensor combo
>quick strikergranted i never fucking shut up about my favorite but still, everyone should have one of these along due to those iq skills
>>24873182
level 100 jirachi with a golden mask and max iq is the highest chance possible for recruitment. Here's hoping you don't have to run Bottomless Sea the 8 or so times I had to
>>24873182
For Discharge you can try Magnezone. He can learn Lock On which gives you sure shot status. Basically
>enter monster house
>suddenly enemies everywhere
>Lock On
>Discharge
>room is empty
Besides you get Magnet Bomb which always hits, and you can learn Shock Wave, which is long range, always hitting STAB. You can cover disguisting earth weakness with Builder Sash.
I picked Turtwig as starter (becaue Torterra is favourite), evolved him into Torterra, got Earthquake and for some time I had to run Gastly as my 2nd slot pokemon so I wouldn't kill him while clearing monster houses. Room wide skills go only 1 cell deep into "pathes".
Earthquake is suffering, especially when you pick partner lie Vulpix.
Is there Earth Power TM?
>>24873189
>idk, I like Deep Breather more. Actually I find it one of the best skills. I can cover map skills with teammate.
>>24873221
gen 4 has no earth power tm
>>24873227
what am i supposed to be seeing here?
>>24873227
Uh, yes?
>>24873231
A team I'm trying out.
>>24873237
at least you took two of the best eeveeloutions. Be sure to slap some ranged moves on those
>>24873226
rip
Also Whiscach might be pretty good party leader. B group, water type and learns Earthquake (or Blizzard through TM)
Too bad it has shit abilities. Both.
>>24873227
Holy fuck, those new mystery dungeon games look like shit. Why the fuck are they pushing this fucking 3D on consoles that can't handle decently looking 3D? What was wrong with glorious sprites? This shit makes me want to puke, just like GTI did.
>>24873257
Thankfully Wooper gets two good abilities. Before everything automatically avoided traps, allies would just go out of their way to jump on explosion traps, and Damp prevents that from doing anything.
SMD is actually really good, I don't think it looks too bad.granted the framerate takes a dive in a certain battle
>>24873257
HOLY SHIT WHSCASH CAN GET EARTH POWER AS EGG MOVE
too bad you can't control which egg moves you get, or even what pokemon will hatch
>>24873267
>tfw the end battle cutscene literally runs at a third of the fame's normal speed and it's made blatantly obvious because the dialogue tick sound stutters the whole time
aside from that it's not bad
>>24873267
Might be good gameplay, but let's be honest. 3D on handhelds looks shit. Especially on nintendo handhelds. And they will destroy every fucking game with it. Already fucked up 2 of my favourites: Fire Emblem and Pokemon series.
>>24873271
well there is one way, sort of.
If you somehow happen upon a Barboach egg, you can reset for its moves i hear. You can hatch eggs faster by going into the dojo and instantly selecting "Give Up." Doing this counts as a day without getting sent to the Bluff or the Guild.
>>24873283
So pokemon isn't random on hatching, but moves are? Do you know if there's any correlation between hatched pokemon and pokemon which gives you mission/caught criminal? Something like egg group or type? I never actually paid attention to that.
Also fuck, if you can cheese it for moves, I fucked up big time. I have like 2 dozens of hatched pokemons now, including pretty useful ones like Gastly, Krabby or Shellos.
>>24873277
>The fight with Tyranitar and the Gengar Squad
Man, what a dive
>>24873300
I'm not sure if you can guarantee what sort of mon you get from an egg, or what influences it.
30 hours in and still no Glaceon in sight
This is punishment for wanting a specific pokemon
>>24873267
>that spoiler
Did you mean: in every monster house
>>24873300
>>24873309
I think the Pokémon in the Egg is randomly selected from Pokémon that can appear the floor of the dungeon you completed the mission on.
My main problem with PMD games is that I always like defaulting to canon/default for protagonists, but no PMD game has that.
I feel so dumb and take ages to pick Pokemon as a result, like defaulting away from the quiz to stare at the roster in PMSD for half an hour.
>>24873309
>>24873326
Just checked. My Gastly got fucking useless Grudge and Fire Punch as egg moves. Well, at least Venonat and Yanma got Signal Beam, Numel got Heat Wave and Shellos Yawn.
I'll try restarting and post results when I get some egg.
Also speaking of restarting. Any ideas if there's any way of fixing worn out power slider in NDS Lite? It doesn't work as good as it used to. Sometimes I have to try to turn it on/off for a minute or so to make it work. If there isn't any eay to fix it without opening the console, I'll have to buy those fucking shitty screwdrivers. Who the fuck uses triple teeth screwdrivers insetad of cross or single tooth?
>>24873344
Not sure if it'll help, but tryblowing/licking the slider. Blowing into my L button can make it work better
>>24873349
Well, is there any button combination for soft restarting the console in every game to save the slider?
Any recommendations for the hardest dungeons?
>1 pokemon allowed
>good IQ group (A, B, E, G seem to be the best, but if other things are really good, might be even C)
>good abilities
>good moves (especially access to room wide mvoe for monster houses)
>good type (earth weakness is big no considering earth power and earthquake are pretty common)
>can cross water
>>24873432
Drifblim.
>Group G
>Unburden
>Ominous Wind
>Ghost/Flying, so three immunities
>can cross water
>>24873432
>1 pokemon allowed
Outside Zero Isle dungeons, what has this restriction? Inferno Cave?
If you're going to that, make sure you get something with Trap Seer. Also
>>24873449
>Drifblim gets Quick Striker
>Unburden Quick Striker would hit FOUR TIMES IN ONE TURN
It's like you got infinite use Doubleslap
>>24873449
Yeah, I'll be lvling one. But does it have good stat growths? In lvl1 dungeons you actually either need pokemon that starts with huge edge over enemies, like Spiritomb, or grows stats fast.
Omnious Wind is learned at 32 lvl. That's like few dozens of floors.
Also shame Drifblim can't walk through wals despite being ghost. Anyone got idea why some ghosts can cross walls and some don't?
>>24873462
Doesn't Destiny Tower also have it? Also if you'll be losing pokemon due to "no rescue" thing, I'd rather lose one than few.
>>24873481
in level 1 dungeons, you dont need ominous wind. Drifblim is THE pokemon for Destiny Tower, which allows NO IQ skills, not even Item Master, so even if Reviver Seeds existed, they'd be unusable.
Drifblim's best moveset? Astonish/Gust/MINIMIZE/Stockpile near the end. This cannot be stated enough, you NEED MINIMIZE. It gets used twice per usage, so that's 54 uses of Minimie.
I've done many rescues in ZIS with Drifblim, and no pokemon is as close to the safety that Drifblim provides. Unburden is flat out THE best ability there, it essentially doubles your attack stat and PP all at once. The next best thing in evasiveness is Detect Band Smoochum.
>>24873481
>Also shame Drifblim can't walk through wals despite being ghost. Anyone got idea why some ghosts can cross walls and some don't?
The only sort of explanation I could come up with is that some ghost Pokemon are more corporeal than others, which is why a Rotom can go through walls and, say, a Chandelure couldn't.
Of course, that's not official at all, so take it with a grain of salt.
>>24873501
granted, i should add onto this i've only beaten Destiny Tower once, with Smoochum. I got the holy trinity of Detect/Warp/Pass hold items. Get Warp/Pass, and even pokemon that shouldn't ever get to the end can make it to the end.
>Traveling pokemon
>It's not Glaceon
>>24873680
At the end of the news feed in the affinity chart it shows up to three traveling pokemon and their current location.
I thiiiink that works when you still have other pokemon available other than travelers, but by the time I discovered it there was only assholes like slakoth left.
>>24873680
>>24873773
I only got it to show travelers when I had completed every available mission
Although there was a time I was completing missions in a dungeon and the connection orb told me there was a traveler in that same dungeon. Maybe it tells you there's a traveler if you're in the same dungeon, even if you haven't finished every mission
>>24873787
Huh, I never tried out that second bit. I also never attempted to open my connection orb in the middle of a dungeon.
Also to anyone, that Destiny Tower Mawile thingy that nobody cares about or remembers is 8 pages into rough
>>24873344
>Who the fuck uses triple teeth screwdrivers insetad of cross or single tooth?
People that don't want you opening their shit. Just be glad that it doesn't use gamebit security screws.
>>24869476_Tepig_has the best expressions
>>24873257
>>24873280
m8, it's just your opinion that's shit.
have fun never playing anything new.
>>24868689
So Contrary randomly didn't work right around floor 4 for me.
Either the ability is bugged (because my speed can still rise), or it's set to fail sometimes. And I'm really leaning on it being bugged.
Malamar is good, but risky since Contrary is bugged and you're at its mercy.
Why are you so weak compared to the other Pokémon in PSMD?
>>24874607
because you get almost no XP for KOs so that you're forced to be weak and use items
>Posts about how Nuzleaf was a really likeable character about week agoI'm more sad than shocked or angry. Do other PMD's suplex the entire plot and story like that?
>accidentally stealing from kekleon's shop
my anus
I just realized that if you leave the shop room diagonally it counts as theft
I just wanted to buy a orb ;-;
>>24875373
Did this too.
Pure Seed noped to the exit. Kecleon standing on the stairs.
RIP
>>24875289I reckon I still like him.
>>24875414
I'm gonna give him thereckoningof his life once I crawl out ofthe void
>>24875423
Ah, you haven't finished yet.No wonder you don't like him.
>>24875373
>find kacleon shop
>sell your most expensive stuff with haggler skill
>run to the stairway room
>trawl orb magic
>get all your items back + kacleon stuff
>enter the wall using mobile orb or as ghost pokemon
>wait till kacleons start to miss, trying to hit the wall
>kill them until you recruit one
>petrify orb
>bruteforce your way through immobilized kacleons to te stairway
If you want to beat the jew, you gotta think like one
>>24875436
I wasn't ready anonalso do you still have to kill to recruit in SMD or is there a kekleon mission later on?
>luxio used spark
>mudkip covered its teammates
>it's super effective
how do I stop this
I deliberately kept mudkip away for a reason
>>24875489
I don't know but my partner also seems keen to cover me when it's NVE on me and SE on him
>>24875493Your partner cares about you.
>>24875500
that's nice and all, but 30-40 damage is a fuckton to take
>>24874483
Yeah what the hell gives? I originally thought that if a mon non the floor had Mold Breaker, like Sawk, that that could prevent it, but i seem to recall it not doing that once.
>>24875436
>doing this with lost loots/gold ribbons
>doing it again the next floor
pic related
>>24875477once you recruit a fuckton Kecleon joins
>>24875500he's a fucker that loves jumping in front of water pulses
i'm a grass type for fucks sake stay away charmander
>>24875519
>Super boss fight
>Companion is weak against boss
>Place myself in between them to eat any attacks
>Companion "blocks" attack for me, 10 hp left
I love you bro, but why
>Go fight Groudon last night
>Grab Better Odds, Power Boost X, Barrage, Follow-Through and other good emeras on the way down
>Go into fight and bulkup
>Rollout for 3000 damage in one turn
>Unburden Double Slap linked with Agility
just imagine
>>24875489
>>24875514
>>24875519
>>24875651
Can't you just turn off bodyguard iq skill? Most of skills can be turned on/off. I turn off Accutie Sniffer because I hate how much time it consumes every time I change the floor.
>>24875716in SMD it's automatic
Could someone give me a hand?
First time playing PMD. I just beat the game andI got my friend back, I feel bad for Mew because he wanted to be part of the adventurers but now that my friend is back Mew went back to the forest..
Is there a reason to keep playing this game? I kinda want to recruit all the pokemons but on the other hand the orb is annoying, I hate when I have to talk to 5-6 pokemons because you spend like 10 mins watching the connected orb shit.
>tfw stockpiled like 30 Joy Seeds
>but 3 pseudos to evolve in Blue
>including leveling Flygon
Getting my butt handed to me in SMD. Playing as Riolu with Oshawott partner, constantly getting wrecked by the Drifblim since the game loves spawning me in a room with at least one far away that spams that room attack skill.
Any skills I should make sure I have, or should I buy/use my TM's?
How the fuck am I supposed to beat Chapter 16? The difficulty spike is retarded and I autosaved not knowing I'd need more than 6+ revivor seeds to get thrpough a dungeon where Drifblim/Tropius/etc will rape the entire map
>>24876130
Make sure you are using the wands and Orbs. What's your team, bruh? I'm in the same hole.
>>24876139
I didn't bring wands/orbs.
Froakie/Riolu
>>24876130
>drifblim
better get to pelliper island anon
>>24876151
I'm pretty much stuck here until I clear the dungeon
>>24876150
Spam that stuff, since it takes only one slot in your inventory. Try to hit it right before it starts buffing itself and use an Alliance attack. Stuff like Slumber/Petrify wands.
>>24876157
pelliper island is outside the main game. You can grind for reviver seeds and exp there.
>>24875759Every PMD game after Explorers of Sky is shitit's true
>>24876189Sky's still the best one but SMD is still very good
>playing through the game
>lose in a dungeon for the 2nd time in the whole game
>know I have to get rescued or else I lose all my looplets
>find out I can just rescue myself
Why even bother posting requests if I can just send a team of my own men rescue myself now?
>>24876189
SMD is pretty fun, m8
>>24876198
in case your best team didnt make it and you still can't rescue yourself
>>24876189
Nah, SMD is okay. A lot of weird changes and decisions in it I just can't understand though.
>>24876232
ah, makes sense.
>>24876189
Name one thing Sky did better aside from the plot
>>24876245
Sprites insetad of ugly 3D which drops your framrate whenever something happens on the screen.
>>24876258
>Ugly 3d
But that's wrong
Also, explain how the graphics in the dungeons are remotely acceptable by DS standards.
>>24876271
The graphics were not the best by any means, but I kind of liked how I could see the dungeon, walls, and cliffs better in the 2d than 3d games.
>>24876150
Here's a good tip for Riolu
Counter can counter all physical attacks. Including Ghost
What this means is you can use Counter against Ghosts or any Pokemon which Fightan wouldn't effect, and as long as that enemy uses a physical attack, Rio will counter it and damage them
Thus why Counter is one of the greatest moves for Riolu in PMD
>>24876279
SMD* My bad
>>24876271
>But that's wrong
You're wrong. Compare 3D on Sony handhelds and Nintendo handhelds. Compare fucking GTA: Liberty City Stories or any other game which came out on PSP to Okamiden or new Pokemons which came out not on NDS, but n3DS. Nintendo handhelds can't handle decent 3D so they shouldn't push for this shit so much. It isn't fucking PC where you can try to run games without meeting hardware requirements, game should work smooth 100% of the time. But we get terrible looking 3D and framrate drops insetad.
If Nintendo starts making more powerfull consoles then sure, they could make 3D. But now they should stay with 2D. Gen4 in main Pokemon series is where they should fucking stop. Some 3D elements, mostly map, the rest in sprites.
Also this >>24876275
When 3D is bad, it isn't as clear as simple 2D.
Graphics in dungeons in Sky or Rescue teams are acceptable because they make everything look clear and are aesthetically pleasant.
Not everything must be high tech, but graphics in every game should be intuitive.
>>24875959
You can always play the other games.
I mean, OP has link to Blue and Sky. If you look hard enough, you'll find Adventure Squad (which is nice enough to be a time waster, but don't expect any kind of plot; it's also Japanese only, but it's not that bad if you know your games; keeps many things from Sky but adds some new stuff).
There's also GtI.we're still waiting on great 3DS emulating but we're closer to that every day.
>>24876315
tl,dr fuck off back to /v/
>>24876332
>muh company can't be wrong because they make franchise I like, how dare you criticize them, no matter if it's legit or not
stay butthurt
>>24871920
Fuck me, bitch took two reviver seeds.
>>24873343
Pick the ones on the box or in the youtube trailer or something.
>>24876315
>aesthetically pleasant
But the DS dungeons looked like complete garbage. They were eyesores most of the time. The frame rate issues with SMD were borderline non-existent and the 3d models look just fine.
>implying i care about how the dungeons look if the game is fun
How does the story compare to the other PMDs in this game? Does it finally get a good plot and characters? (Rescue Team had neither, Explorers had a good plot but weak characters, Gates had good characters but weak plot)
>>24876483
Decent on both I'd say. The enjoyment of the story will likely depend on how much you like the partner though, since it's by far the most partner-centric story so far.
I don't know why p[eople complain about framerate issues. The only time I've ever had my frames drop was during theYvetalcutscene because I had the 3D slider on. I've had it off the rest of the game and have never had any frame rate drops that I can recall.
>>24876567
I only get frame drops when I hit monster houses with earth power
>>24876567
i only got it in thefight with mega gengars
>Cape of Wonders
>Path of Fallen Leaves
>Not aesthetically pleasing
>>24876557
>get cute Riolu as partner through the quiz
>the partner's behavior during the story in general
I can't see the partner as anything else now, except maybe a Chespin.
>>24876677
Having the partner be a more traditionally stoic looking pokemon (Bulbasaur, Snivy, Treeko and Froakie) just seems off to me
>>24876652
>>Cape of Wonders
Fuck that difficulty spike
>>24876677
if I could've had a chespin partner, I would've
>>24876714
>Develop a fear of random dungeons from having to escape orb out of Serpentine Mountain Trail due to a pissed-off drifblim
>Enter Cape of Wonders when I'm absolutely certain it's not going to smash me
>mfw 5 requests at once with travelers
>>24876753
It's so weird too. I have 9 missions in that one dungeon
Apparently everyone on the entire planet goes to this place, has a secret base in this place, and gets lost in this place
>>24876483
Weakest since Rescue Team
so do escape orbs have equal importance in Super as they did in earlier games? and how important are the save devices?
>>24876788
I beat the game and and post game and am pretty far into recruiting Pokemon and I have never used a save device or escape orb.
>>24876714
>have a bunch of missions on Midnight Sun Gorge
>one of them being a Pidgey requesting to be escorted to a treasure in F8
>>24876753
>>24876775
Cape of wonders indeed
>>24876293
He's my partner so on story missions I have little control of what he can use
>>24876914
Oh well then you're on your own
Good luck have fun!
>>24876245
>Sky
>Best plot
That's notGtI
>>24876949
GTI's plot was pretty mediocre and had a pretty lackluster finish. It took the whole "you can do anything if you just believe!" too far. I can get maybe your partner being so fond that they still remember you after you leave, but it makes little sense for literally every other NPC to remember you even though they were pretty detached from you emotionally.
>>24877053
>That moment when the MC gave your partner a final boost
God that cutscene is fucking great and the music if fucking great
>>24877074
>that moment whenthey don't make it anyway
>never realized how prevalent thePartner's themeis in the OST
Who wanted to smile anyways?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5jpdiv1718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBl3NqVnWbo
>>24877104
Whenever I hear the Partners theme, I get good feels. It doesn't make me sad. In fact, I have the Japanese exclusive theme that features the partner's theme, all the starters and NPCs, and the tree on the hill. It's my favorite theme.
>>24877134
>only japan got this
horseshit
>>24877140
I pirated it on my homebrew enabled 3DS.
>>24877145
why even region lock themes to begin with?
so why did chunsoft decide to get rid ofthe scarvesin the postgame?
>>24877152
Because Nintendo. Also the Japanede title I guess. Not that it really matters.
>>24877153Because ???
They had to go out of their way to do it to begin with
I want full-blown customisation in the next mystery dungeon game. The scarves being visible on your character models were cool.
>>24877152
Why even region lock games to begin with?;_;
>>24876920
I got through it, basically shoved the overleveled bird in front of me for 20 minutes and let him mow down enemies
>>24877189
sometimes I forgot my fellow britfags and eurolanders got shafted because I have an imported 3DS
>>24877213
I actually pirated the game because of the bullshit release date.
>>24877218
>Bullshit release date means this thread will last longer into the future
>I have time to finish my fanfic before it all dissipates into nothing
>91 days between American and European release dates
>difference between relative atomic masses of americium and europium is 91
deepest lore
NEW THREAD
>>24877309
>>24877309
>>24877309
>>24877045
All the plots are mediocre and I accept your criticisms.
I just prefer GtIs plot holes, pathetic story length, and over the top themes to sky's shitty plot devices, cliches, obvious twists, and bland characters
I would much prefer it if SMD went back to those themes instead of the GtI 2.0 muh bad feels tripe andbeing consumed by black blobswe got
