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Features or mechanics you're glad are gone
>>24862965
Agreed. Fuck that Honey bullshit. It took forever to get Munchlax for my Platinum Pokedex.
>>24862965
This used to piss me off to no end. If only the poketch would have a little alarm thingy that went off whenever one of your trees had a Pokemon.
>>24862965
>tfw still no munchlax after almost a decade
Fuck these Rng factories
>>24862989
>5% encounter rate
>12.5% for a female
>>24863000
Thank god for Full Incense, Ditto and Gen 3 Snorlax.
>>24862999
shitposting is against the rules
>>24862965
Bike Puzzles
Seasons
>>24863059
why?
The constant high-pitched "bee-boo" sound when your active mon was at red health, also the change in music in Gen 5 for the same situation. Just a single warning is needed imo.
>>24862965
>tfw no option to slather other Trainers with Honey
>>24863064
They aren't executed well so they're better off gone. GF can't get them right.
>>24863080
So wild Pokémon will start licking it off of them?
>>24863064
Limit shit in a game to only 4 months? Next year you'll be playing the next game anyway.
inb4 change clock, nigga can't be fucked doin' that.
>>24862999
Oh god yes. BF sucked my ass.
>>24863096
It'd work better if it were for atmospheric effect more. So all pokemon in the region are obtainable at all times, but for certain pokemon the encounter goes up/down or/and their location changes due to migratory patterns. Also maybe special locations you can access during seasons, but nothing too over the top, just a reward for players who play consisently.
>>24863316
>special locations you can access during seasons
That's what most people despise about it. I agree with for certain pokemon making it so the encounters are most likely or not, but that's it.
>>24863096
I don't get what you are mad about, are you complaining that the seasons only lasted a month? I don't know about you, but it would be weird as fuck if it was Winter the entirety of my summer.
despite ORAS just being fucking lazy i'm glad Safari Zone and Casinos are gone
>>24862965
Trainer customization.
>>24862999
>trips confirm
Great idea, poorly executed with bullshit worse than that of the battle maison.
![FL_Safari_Zone[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hwb2hAb.png "FL_Safari_Zone[1].png")
Good riddance Tbh. Glad this shit has been gone since Gen 5 and was just like a normal route in ORAS.
The ability to do tricks on your bike amirite
>>24862965
Following Pokemon.
>>24864146
>>24863067
This and this
>>24863059
>>24863724
>>24864204
what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>24863298
i'd suck your ass too if i was your bf
>>24862965
>>24862973
>>24862989
>>24863000
>Make first gen 4 Pokemon Munchlax appear in the anime
>Make it damn near impossible to get it in the game it debuts in
fucking game freak
>>24864233
>tfw loved Munchlax
>Couldn't get it
>>24864233
not as bad as Marill
>make pikachu clone
>debuts in anime
>gets entire season being new pikachu
>is put in the middle of some cave in bumfuck nowhere
>you need flash to navigate the cave
>the cave is only mandatory if you want Tyrogue/hitmons
>Marill isnt even fucking common there, nor would you suspect to find it in a Cave
>>24864271
Munchlax has a 1% spawn rate, you can only look for it once every 6 hours, and he won't spawn in 17/21 of the trees (which are chosen when you start the game).
DP Munchlax is a real contender for hardest Pokemon to find. I think only Feebas in Platnium rivals it.
Maybe they really wanted to make a "rare" Pokemon with Munchlax.
>>24864292
>Platinum Feebas
>hard
It'll take you a few hours, but it's not even as many squares as RSE Feebas. Munchlax is definitely bullshit though.
>>24864437
In Platnium, the tiles reset daily so you have to find the thing within a single day or else start over.
>>24862965
>>24863013
>>24863059
>>24863067
>>24863884
>>24864146
>>24864204
This.
>>24863414
The main character is usually too young to be in a casino anyway.
>>24862999
>>24863059
>>24863884
what the fuck
>>24864465
Days are traditionally longer than a few hours
>>24864465
I'm aware of the DPP Feebas thing. This isn't really a problem, in my opinion.
DreamWorld
>>24864233
>tfw Munchlax and Heracross are hard to get thanks to the fucking honey trees
>they rub it in your face giving fucking Barry out of all people both of them
>>24864527
I only liked dreamworld because of the music. The idea that you could only grow berries there was by far the stupidest thing Gamefreak has ever come up with.
>>24863092
or so I can lick it off her,or both simultaneously
>>24864537
>Barry literally being the most impatient fuck ever
>having the patience for the rarest things to come out of the honey tree
what the actual fuck
>>24864437
>It'll take you a few hours, but it's not even as many squares as RSE Feebas.
wat
The RSE area has 400-something water tiles while Mt Coronet Lake has over 500. RSE also has six feebas tiles instead of Platnium's four.
Platnium Feebas is undeniably harder to find.
>>24862965
pokemon contests
>>24862965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mvPVKYMc6Q
>>24864556
>He thinks Barry is actually impatient
Laughingrival.jpg
He played it up.
He's a ham.
>>24862965
The Silph Scope
To be honest the low health music in gen5 wasn't as annoying as the low hp sound of previous gens was.
>>24863067
>>24864800
That shit annoying. I can still her it in my head after I paused it too. Weird.
This isn't as relevant now, but I was glad when they introduced physical/special moves for each type, rather than each type being just one or the other
>>24864590
*gen IV contests
I wish they'd get rid of the weird programming of the Battle Tower and all of its spawns (including the entire Battle Frontier). Like, holy shit, it seriously shouldn't be the case where the same sequence of moves always have the exact same outcome.
Seasons (or, the implementation of them) were objectively the worst part of an otherwise OK/Good generation. Like, why limit something FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH?
And honestly, same goes for Day/Night splits. It's a great visual mechanic, but there's no reason to limit encounters as a result. It just fucks over people who can't play the game whenever they want.
Trainer customization was extremely limited by modern gaming standards. I don't miss it, and I'm glad it's gone.
>>24865062
>Seasons (or, the implementation of them) were objectively the worst part of an otherwise OK/Good generation. Like, why limit something FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH?
>And honestly, same goes for Day/Night splits. It's a great visual mechanic, but there's no reason to limit encounters as a result. It just fucks over people who can't play the game whenever they want.
A valid point for both. I think the better strategy would be to have day/night and seasons affect the chances of encountering a Pokemon rather than if you can encounter them at all.
As for the length of seasons, I honestly think it should be tied to irl seasons. If you don't block access to Pokemon seasonally then there's no reason seasons can't last longer, and running parallel to irl seasons would make the games more immersive.
>>24862965
That fucking awful low HP music from gen 5. If it was good, then maybe, but it was so damn bad it's not even funny, and the fact that it interrupts all the other music is just wrong. I'm so glad they removed it for gen 6.
>>24865074
Did you really expect to create a shota ogre boy in a Pokemon game?
>>24863059
>>24863724
>>24864204
>>24863059
>>24862999
The only one that was total bullshit was the Battle Palace, imo.
>>24865089
>A valid point for both. I think the better strategy would be to have day/night and seasons affect the chances of encountering a Pokemon rather than if you can encounter them at all.
There were few, if any, season-exclusive Pokemon. Most of them would still spawn someone at a really, really low rate during the off-season.
It's the season-exclusive TMs that were frustrating.
Hijacking the thread temporarily. Which of the DS games that aren't the mainline ones are worth playing?
As in, which of the MD and that one crossover.
>>24862965
Gym leader refights
>>24866371
Blue, sky, and the new one when it comes out. Red if you desperately want a gba one.
Also
>voltorb flip
Jesus
>>24866401
SPMD is already out
>>24863316
Or have Landorus get an otherwise useless sig move that changes the season, he's the harvest god after all
>>24866401
How about the Ranger ones?
>>24865832
>someone says something I disagree with
>must be a cancerous baitposter
Nice logic you mong
>>24866510
I'd recommend Shadows of Almia. Never played Guardian Signs, and unless you want a Manaphy then you should skip the first game since it has poor design choices.
>>24865900
>It's the season-exclusive TMs that were frustrating.
Not a big tm user so I never knew those even existed, unless you're talking about the ones you can only reach in certain seasons.
Honestly I support obstacles that can only be completed in certain seasons so long as they don't harm the main story. A more open world experience would be enjoyable.
>>24866581
>obstacles that take literal weeks to surmount
>open world
I'm not sure I like this idea
The no stop phone calls from gen 2 T_T screw joey!
>>24866639
Maybe have two ways to access certain obstacles, one that requires a season change or a second path that requires an HM move.
I'd also support bringing back more HM moves that have been forgotten in new gen games (Whirlpool, Dive, Defog, Rock Climb)
>>24866718
You need to be 18 years or older to post here
>>24862965
Fog. Fuck fog. Worst idea in Pokemon.
>>24867226
Thank goodness for no-miss moves, eh?
>>24863725
git fucking gud
>>24863884
I think it's fun.
>>24867270
>git gud
>vs manipulated RNG
>against adaptive AI that stacks teams
>against mons who change items and moves midmatch
>git gud
>>24864800
>>24863067
I didn't know the new games got rid of this. It honestly makes me care more about my pokemon.
I hear they also got rid of poison damage outside of battle. I hate it but racing to the pokemon center makes me feel like I'm in the anime carrying an injured pokemon.
>>24866946
>more shitty HMs
>>24866946
>Defog
Hell no.
>>24867296
I was able to get all 7 silver symbols and 3 gold symbols from the battle frontier when I was 12 and I didn't even know what EV and IV's were. Get gud.
>>24867454
Someone got the 7 silver symbols from theTwitch Plays Pokemon Emeraldsave, and they didn't focus on EVs, only on getting the mons to Level 100.
Could this bring us closer to finding a solution to those facilities?
>>24867416
>criticizes idea
>does not provide alternative suggestions
Goddamn I love how predictable this place is.
>>24867434
I couldn't get myself to play through the whole of gen 4 (besides HGSS), so I missed what was so terrible about Defog. Fill me in please.
They should honestly bring seasons back, however with the ability to change the players active season via pokemon moves.surely there are pokemon that the player can catch that could manipulate weather/seasons.That'd give those who want seasons on their own what they want, and those who don't like them the option to essentially just ignore them without negative effects.
>>24862999
gid gut
>>24867794
HMs are literally the worst. If they were like key items instead of taking up move space I wouldn't care.
But instead they're literally the worst.
>>24867803
Had to be used to get rid of fog, which in battle reduced the accuracy of attacks, save for no-miss moves like Aerial Ace or Magnet Bomb.
>>24867296
You're making it sound like it's impossible. It's not. Git gud.
>>24868031
No they aren't. Whine more.
Key items linearize your linearized game even more. At that point, might as well make it ffxiii with Pokemon.
>>24866415
yeah, for you filthy americunts it is
I'm glad poison no longer damages outside of the battle. That was annoying as fuck
>>24864271
I was going to say you're wrong, but it was apparently only in R/S that it's commonly found early on.
Remember though that Pikachu is also not a common Pokémon in R/B. It's rare enough that many people don't encounter it at all, let alone catch it.
>>24868517
Following Pokemon should be optional and not forced.
>>24868363
Stay mad, Britbong. Y'all faggots have America in your mouths more than Americans do.
>fog is gone
Great
>defog hm is gone with no replacement tm
Not great, they should at least make the old HM moves tms or tutors.
>>24868041
So I guess it's a largely pointless obstacle outside of battle? I still like the idea of fog weather but maybe it could be a TM instead.
>>24863067
I don't think it needs to be completely removed, but they could have either toned it down or at least added exceptions, definitely.
Ruined the Champion Iris battle quite a bit for me.
>>24867296
>against mons who change items and moves midmatch
Prove that this happens.
>>24864504
>having time to spend literally 24 hours finding feebas
>>24862989
You know you can just save in front of a honeyed tree and reset until its Munchlax/FCombee, right?
Seasons. Good idea; terrible execution. I beat the game before the season changed.
sky battles
>>24862999
>>24863298
>>24863414
>>24863884
>>24864204
>>24865062
>>24868503
Can't tell who's baiting and who has shit taste. /vp/ is a cesspool.
>>24864292
Never forget Chansey from FR/LG. Only appears in Safari Zone with 1% chance just to flee from a single failed Safari Ball.
>>24864233
Zoroark.
It was the mascot of gen 5 and they fucking made it completely unavailable outside of a stupid event.
>>24872450
>encounter chansey on my way to getting the HM in a recent playthrough
>catch it in one ball
>Lucky Egg
That was a good day.
>>24868069
they had that, it was called Kalos.
>>24872043
nope. pokemon is set when it starts shaking. like egg.
>>24872450
tauros is the real pain man
>>24867318
>>24872230
>likes Battle Tower times seven
>likes the horrible Safari Zone
>likes underageb& to know about casinos
>likes limiting encounters
>likes out-of-battle poison damage
>>24867803
It was basically just Flash with different in-battle effect
>>24862999
Gamefreak plz go.
>>24873141
no, it was nondamaging rapidspin + sweetscent.
>>24868922
It was for supposedly obscuring your vision, like darkness in caves.
and a move that causes fog for 5 turns? hmmm. tailwind, but for flash instead of agility. yeah, maybe.
>>24872957
Really, you sure about that?
I knew for a fact I manipulated honey trees to consistently get F-Combees so I could trade it for any Pokémon I wanted.
Maybe you had to be on another map before you check it to do it but I'm sure you were able to manip it.
>>24872923
I believe you, but that had to be the only time in history that happened.
>>24873141
Kinda figured that without even playing it to be perfectly honest with you my family.
>>24873498
can somebody run the odds on that?
I'm looking to compare it to odds on shinies or on oldshool no destiny knot 6IVs
>>24873646
Catching Chansey in a Safari Ball with full HP has a 6.249% success rate in Gen 3. It has a 5% chance of holding a Lucky Egg.
The chance of both things happening is 0.31245%; definitely higher than the odds of encountering a shiny.
>>24872904
You get a Zoroa in W2/B2 from Rood in Driftveil City.
>>24873908
A shiny is a 0.00012207031% chance of occurring without modifiers.
How the fuck is that more likely
>>24873961
No, the odds of catching a Chansey holding a Lucky Egg is higher than the odds of encountering a shiny.
I think you misread.
>>24873170
Did you play gen 4?
>>24872060
underrated post
it was bullshit because only a select few pokemon were allowed and the battles were very one-sided
GEN 1
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>>24876408
did you?
>In battle
>Generation IV
>Defog lowers the target's evasion one stage, even if the target is behind a substitute. It clears away fog. It also clears away Light Screen, Reflect, Safeguard, Mist, Spikes, Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock present on the target's side of the field.
>>24877046
Defog only lowered evasion until Gen 6.
>>24877067
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Defog_(move)
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/defog.shtml
Extra rekt, nerd.
>>24877067
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/defog.shtml
>>24873914
Yeah, but before BW2 that event was the only way to get it outside of trading.
>>24862965
Character customization from Pokémon XY and possibly Z.
I'm glad, it won't be available in the 7th generation of Pokémon main-games.
I do miss headbutted trees
>>24872450
But there's always Cerulean Cav-
>double-check
>FR/LG removed Chansey's in Cerulean Cave
Holy shit.
>people actually enjoy the safari zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxDyr8Cd5VY
