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C-Charizard....you okay?...
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>tai begs red not to kill his digimon
>as soon as he gets the upper hand he kills charizard and red
why so edgt
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>>24852140
>butcher Charizard without any mercy
>nuke them without any hesitation
"Well, that was rough. xD"

Nigga.
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>>24852150

>Using edgy Wargreaymon
Crawling in my skin bro
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>>24852154
That's not how you spell BADASS.
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what is this
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>>24852224
DEATH BATTLE
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>>24852105
At least the next one is Bayonetta Vs. whoever is losing
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>>24852319
BAYONETTA VS. DANTE WHEN!?
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Looks like Red became Ash.
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Why in the fuck did they have Xenoblade Chronicles X music playing?
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>>24852353
It was hyping and sad all in one song.
I liked it.
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>>24852154
>Calling the objectively better theme edgy
It's not jet black, it could be conceived as edgy if you wanted it to, but it just looks better and has better color consistency than the original colors.
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>>24852105
This actually was pretty good until they made it a bloodfest. After, so cringey
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>>24852105
I wasn't surprised about the results

I was surprised (and dissapointed) how fucking fast they ended it. There wasn't build up to a big finisher just "Stab! YOU DIE!"

Probably the worst death battle IMO not in terms of results but in terms of the battle itself.

I knew wargreymon would win hands down. I just didn't think they'd make the battle that dissapointing.
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>>24852140
That was hardly begging. He beat the shit out of Red and ordered him to call off charizard.

But yea nuking them was a little over the edge
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>>24852105
Where can I see this meme battle?
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IMO they lost all credibility after doomguy lost.
Most onesided match ever, and it goes the other way because "muh halo".
fuck those guys.
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>>24853080
On youtube.
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>>24852105

>massive powergap between series, to the point where the battle is pointless
>still resort to bullshit like red trying to catch greymon, tai attacking red, charizard doing nothing without orders

just when i thought that series couldn't get worse
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did he died?
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>watching Death Battle
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>>24852326
For the record, viewtiful joe could kick her ass.
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>that so br00tal battle sequence

I swear I could almost hear Disturbed on the background
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>>24852375
Well, I fucking love that song too.
But what I'm asking is why the fuck did they have Xenoblade music playing in Pokemon vs Digimon?
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I'm sensing so many butthurt pokefags right now if the outcome were different you'd all be gagging
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>>24853367

for the outcome to be different it would be some bullshit like greymon being data, or charizard dancing to +6 while it's digivolving. none of the outcomes would be satisfying because this series is garbage.
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>>24853367
Quite the contrary mon amigo.
This was just such a fucking stupid fight.
Digimon dragon man is like ten million times stronger than Charizard, but on the other hand Charizard could have just shit down Augumon's neck in the first three seconds.

Also that fucking edgy as hell ending.
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>>24852326
they'd just say fuck it and get a pizza together.
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>>24853381
Yeah the ending rubbed me the wrong way too. Given the two contestants, the stabbing and blood was out of place. It was great in Kratos Vs. Spawn though.

Should have went with something like Kid Goku's Breakthrough in the Budokai games at the very most.
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>>24852140
Tai never said to do that, you fucking idiot. WarGreymon acted on his own.

Tai just didn't become a little bitch about killing someone.
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>>24852105
>using MMD
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>>24852140
One of the rules of Death Battle Anon
Restraints of killing are removed
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Which one died the more painful death?
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>>24856289
Even so, Tai's Agumon isn't aggressive like that. Slashing off Mega Charizard X's wings with that incredible before knocking him into Red then quickly finishing it with Terra Force would have been sufficient. I'm glad for Charizard's sake he wasn't asspulled into winning, but the brutal way both of them died left a bad taste. At least they went out together as bros.

>>24856298
Red's. The wild Charizard was literally just forced to drink too much water and died in an instant by exploding.
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>>24852140
>digimon come back as eggs while pokemon are dead forever
What the fuck ever
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>>24853095
That one was fair and square. Especially since Chief can make himself invincible to. (Halo 3 invincibility power-up)
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>>24856428
Why are people mad about that one again?

The only other one I know that's so polarizing was Gaara VS Toph, but that's mainly because Narutards forget he literally lost Shukaku in the very first arc of Shitpudding and they were clearly using him up to date. He wasn't nerfed.
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>>24856471
I have no fucking clue. I think based on anon's post, he just hates Halo.

So long as they can back up who won with a source of info as to how/why they won then I usually agree.

I'm dissapointed with this battle if only for 0 build up to a very one-sided battle.
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>>24856338
Do you even watch Digimon? Agumon isn't vicious , correct but his further evolutions are
Tai didn't know that Charizard was a Pokemon
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>>24852105
>Thinking Charizard had a chance

Why are Pokefags being so Salty?
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>>24853381
>implying Charizard would even waste his time on Agumon.
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>>24856575
I watched Adventure, 02 and Frontier while they aired.

I never got the chance to watch much of Tamers for some reason.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMkUzTfPBXw

>The sudden burst of aggression and power in the end was unexplained. They were an even match, but then they weren't? For no reason? Clearly a bias.

I'm sorry, but they were hardly on even footing.
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>>24856616
I love Charizard and both of his Megas, but I seriously don't understand why WarGreymon didn't swat him in less than a minute without breaking a sweat. They made him look like they were close in power at first just for the sake of entertainment, but it mainly comes off as illogical.
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>>24856616
>whoa, he digivolved
If only the theme during the mega-evolution was DIGIMON DIGITAL MONSTERS as well.
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>>24856616
That battle was decent until the end. #1 the battle wouldn't have gotten that far and WarGreymon would have steamrolled immediately. #2 if Red can't give orders Charizard does nothing? 75% of the Magmar v. Charizard battle was Charizard's improv. DeathBattle is so fucking gay, Jesus Christ.
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>>24856628
They probably wanted to show Wargreymon's speed and durability (ie. Swift and Blastburn)
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>>24856662
I'd hardly say Charizard "did nothing" he seemed just confused that he didn't receive an order.

and then Wargreymon happened.
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#3 Tai wouldn't have been able to kick Red's ass so easily. Honestly they should have done an Ash vs. Tai DeathBattle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdkuFpjSqQ

>>24856668
and he didn't defend himself? I mean, not that it would have mattered, but they made it a point that Charizard lost in-part because it doesn't even block when it gets attacked?
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>>24856683
That's what red gets for not teaching Charizard Protect.
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>>24856683
Let's just make it even.

Let's have Ash and Red vs Masaru.
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>>24856689
>Sash Charizard w/ Counter OHKOs WGM

>>24856692
What about this little spitfuck?
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>>24856422
not in tamers though
and they made it an actual plot point there
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Would a more even match be Ash Ketchum and Pikachu versus Nathan Adams and Jibanyan?
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>>24856714
you can't kill a ghost.
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>>24853249
Yes.
>>24853367
KEK they'll never live this down
>>24856298
Mega Charizard, he was pulverized down to the very last cell of his body.
>>24856338
>Tai's Agumon isn't aggressive like that.
He is, he literally butchered MetalSeadramon from the inside out, he sliced Machinedramon to pieces with his Dramon Killers, he even fed Myotismon a GAIA FORCE.
>>24856692
He'd fuck them up for good, steal their lunch money.
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>>24856714
Jibanyan is pretty weak, I think his ORA ORA ORA attack can stop a killer Japanese truck at best.
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>>24856683
The end was just stupid.

1. WarGreymon was never in danger. There was absolutely no reason for Tai to attack Red to distract Charizard, which was stupid to begin with when Pokemon are capable of improvising anyways.
2. WarGreymon should have instantly gotten back up and shot out to finish it.
3. Again, it was overkill. WarGreymon has never been really vicious and the most brutal thing he's ever done was ripping through a powerful major villain who was trying to kill Tai and all of their friends. Why didn't he just cut off Charizard's wings and throw him at Red rather than savagely tearing into him?
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>>24856731

/thread
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>>24856731
>Why didn't he just cut off Charizard's wings and throw him at Red rather than savagely tearing into him?
Why didn't Red gently put aside Agumons marshmallow before smacking him in the face with a pokeball?
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>>24856724
Wasn't brutally rushing Machinedramon the only way to take him out before he killed Kari? He immediately reverted to Koromon after all.

Also, Myotismon is pure evil, was the size of a kaiju at that time and was trying to destroy a fucking city. Both of them and MetalSeadramon were all Dark Masters and caused a lot of suffering, Myotismon most of all.
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That's all cool and shit but
Is there any Pokemon powerful enough to kill a Mega level Digimon like Metal Seadramon?
>literally impenetrable armor made out of Chrome Digizoid
>one of the biggest and heaviest Digimon
>fastest aquatic digimon
>arguably even faster while flying
>can effortlessly move trough the ground
>unstoppable physical attacks due to his size and speed
>gigantic cannon that easily penetrates any material except Chrome Digizoid
>can breathe fire
>can create giant tidal waves out of nothing
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>>24856756
Endeavor Aron
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>>24856756
Closest thing I can think of is Primal Groudon.

Fug may be Fug, but if he can't get through that armor, he's not doing shit. Groudon unlike most Legendaries has actual arms, so he can at least try beating the shit out of him with that titanic strength the old fashioned way. Also, he should at least be close to MetalSeadrmon's size.
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OP character vs. OP characters?
Hm k.
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>>24856742
Charizard had nothing to do with that and you know it, faggot.
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>>24856784
Too slow.
>>24856785
>Groudon unlike most Legendaries has actual arms
Yeah, that sure is going to help him, not to mention even WarGreymons Dramon Killer arms were incapable to even scratch MetalSeadramons armor.
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>>24856794
Aron's speed is irrelevant when he has BERRY JUICE
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>>24856804
>Aron's speed is irrelevant
It literally is compared to MetalSeadramons who isn't bound by turn based combat.
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>>24856814
this is like the Nth thread you've circlejerked about MetalSeadramon

it's a low-level Mega and would get absolutely raped by
>Machinedramon
>Piedmon
>WarGreymon
>MetalGarurumon
>Omegamon
>Alphamon
>etc.
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>>24856814
Gotta move the goalposts when you lose, huh? Sorry bud, but your sweeper serpent is beaten by a tiny piece of iron, better luck next time
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>>24856823
>>Machinedramon
>>Piedmon
>>WarGreymon
>>MetalGarurumon
>>Alphamon
He would't because none of them have enough firepower to even harm him.
Tai's WarGreymon only won because he's powered by the Digivice who's power is superior to even Apocalymon.
>>24856826
No goalpost was moved.
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>>24856794
Anon, first of all, WarGreymon was just big enough to drill right through the cannon in his head. If WarGreymon is around Charizard's size, that puts both Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre definitely at around 3/4 size as MetalSeadramon.

Also, Groudon could literally use brute strength to hit or throw him around while hammering him with power comparable to Terra Force he doesn't need to charge up. Any water based attacks will be completely worthless thanks to his power and might even evaporate the water around them then if he attempts to go underground, he can force him out with his control over land or even pummel him while he's down there with an earthquake. Enough abuse should force him to De-Digivolve. The sky the only thing that puts Groudon at a complete disadvantage considering Rayquaza casually bitchslaps him and Kyogre whenever they start shit.
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>>24856841
>none of them have enough firepower to even harm him
You're retarded.
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>>24856841
Absolute autism. MSM would get steamrolled by any of those other Megas.
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>>24856855
>If WarGreymon is around Charizard's size
He's not.

>implying MG has power comparable to Wargreymon
>implying that enough to even scratch MS's armor
WarGreymon reppeled B-WarGreymons Tera Force with a shield 10x thinner than MS armor
>implying MG's tiny hands can even grab MS giant body
>implying MG can grab MS at all as the guy is way too fast and can fly
>implying a natty Mega like MS de-evolves
Shit nigga it's like you never watchedd Digimon.
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>>24856864
How? His armor is 10x thicker than WarGreymon's BRAVE SHIELD and he's completely covered with it.
Not to mention he dwarfs in size all those other Digimon.
Face it, all their attacks would just bounce off of him, especially Machinedramon's who uses weapons from Ultimate level Digimon.
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>>24856874
MetalSeadramon <<<<<<< WarGreymon < Machinedramon < Piedmon
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>>24856877
And you have no arguments to back up that wild claim.
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>>24856881
MetalSeadramon gets wasted by WarGreymon.
Machinedramon gets wasted by WarGreymon.
Piedmon wastes both MetalGarurumon and WarGreymon at the same time. MetalSeadramon is nothing.
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>>24856897
>puts Machinedramon over WarGreymon
>uses argument that WarGreymon wastes Machinedramon
>doesn't compare Piedmon to MetalSeadramon but to a 3rd Digimon
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>>24856870
My memory of Adventure is terrible then. Fug would be a better match then because at least MetalSeadramon couldn't even hit him while even Mega Rayquaza couldn't scratch him either. It'd at least become a stalemate.

Primals are still giant even if they're not as big. I'm sure Groudon even if he gets his ass kicked would have the strength to lift him considering he's an ancient titan of earth itself. Just saying.

>>24856877
>Wargreymon < Machinedramon
>Machinedramon < Piedmon
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>>24856908
It's a typo, fucking relax.
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>>24856908
>MetalSeadramon couldn't even hit him
Why not? He demonstrated enough speed to easily hit Rayquaza with his body as well.
>>24856908
>lift him
Why would you need to life a flying adversary?
MetalSeadramon could easily lift MG and toss him in space combining his speed and body strength.
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>>24856905
WarGreymon has Dramon Killers made out of Chrome Digizoid, while Mugendramon is made of unspecified metal.
The anime simply confirmed that WarGreymon can slice through that metal like a hot knife through butter—all while it itself is wearing an armour made out of Chrome Digizoid.

Piemon doesn't have shit on MetalSeadramon, unless it can simply teleport its swords inside of MetalSedramon's mushy insides, in which case it's gg.
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>>24856814
Bulltshit m8.
For one, the Digimon Story games and the WonderSwan games do have turn-based combat.

In the Digimon World games, combat is not turn-based. However, unless the speed of one Digimon greatly exceeds the speed of the other, and unless one Digimon only spams quick, weak attacks while the opponent tries to use more powerful ones that need a few moments to charge, usually both Digimon get a few attacks off each.

If you want to go down that route, Pokémon aren't bound by turn-based combat either though, as demonstrated in Pokken and in Super Smash Bros.

If you want to compare the two, simulating turn-based combat is totally fine.
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>>24856917
Ultimate Stream or whatever it's called. Fug would be able to easily dodge the blast at least.

Also, I'm just saying I'm pretty sure Primal Groudon would actually have the physical strength to throw him if they were actually matched up because brute force would be his best bet. I've already acknowledged he'll lose.
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>>24856921
>Mugendramon is made of unspecified metal.
Machinedramon is made out of parts from Ultimate level Digimon which we can use to determine what he's made of.
His Helmet, Left Arm, Right Upper Arm, Upper Chest and Genocide Claw are Chrome Digizoid for sure.

When WarGreymon first attacked MetalSeadramon with his Dramon Killers, his attack was futile as he didn't even leave a scratch on it, which is why he risked it all in the end and went head on trough RIVER OF POWER to enter MetalSeadramons body and kill him.

>Piemon doesn't have shit on MetalSeadramon
This, he might have a type advantage, but none of his weapons are deadly enough for such a huge Digimon as MS.
Piedmon's swords were easily knocked down by MetalGarurumon's nose lasers so he has no chance on repeating WarGreymon's miracle.
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>>24852105
Pokemon's power levels increase at a natural rate with a logical progression in forms *generally*

Digimon's power levels run on a system closer to Gurren Lagann's approach of throw logic out and do the impossible.

It's no wonder Digimon won, I couldn't see it happening any other way. In terms of matching the evolutions up though, this is how I would see it.

Charmander=Koromon
Charmeleon=Augumon
Charizard<Greymon
Mega Charizard Y=Greymon
Mega Charizard X>Greymon

And of course the Augumon line continues to grow exponentially from there
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>>24856870

twice as tall as charizard is still vermin sized next to msdm. plus wgm is smaller than some of the pokemon you're doing size comparisons with, but it still fucked him. and there are tons of stronger megas than msdm that are much smaller.

emphasizing size in a fictional power level argument is ridiculous. same with your chromedigizoid shit.

>my fictional material is stronger than this fictional force because i say so!

are you from screwattack?
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>>24856955
>throw him
What is the point of throwing him?
>easily dodge
I doubt that as MS can aim his attack and even use it while moving, he's bound to hit Ray sooner or later as Ray has a pretty long body.
>>24856959
>Digievolution throws Pokemon logic out
Right.
>>24856960
>tons of stronger megas than msdm
And you didn't mention one yet except Tai's plot powered WarGreymon.
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>>24856958
>His Helmet, Left Arm, Right Upper Arm, Upper Chest and Genocide Claw are Chrome Digizoid for sure.

Neither Megadramon, nor Andromon, MetalTyranomon, or MetalMamemon are said to have any Chrome Digizoid parts.

WarGreymon could, therefore, easily disarm Mugendramon by destroying its cannons and cutting off its right arm; that lone Trident Arm from MetalGreymon wouldn't do shit against something as nimble as WarGreymon.

WarGreymon could also easily behead it (Megadramon's helmet and MetalTyranomon's jaws aren't made out of anything special), and then just send some explosives down its exposed throat.

http://wikimon.net/Chrome_Digizoid
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>>24856973
>plot powered

are you too autistic to see the irony in this? ALL power levels are plot powered. rayquaza could very well bust through chromedigizoid with dragon ascent because it was arbitrarily decided by the narrator that its energy bypasses chromedigizoid, and it's just as valid as any argument you're making.
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>>24856973
Like I said, if his armor bounces everything else off, beating the shit out of him the old fashioned way is the only option left.

>>24856982
>all powerlevels are plot powered

Not neccesarily. There's always a standard on what someone can or can't do. If Rayquaza's most impressive feat was shattering a meteor, he's not getting through superpowered armor that can tank the fucking sun.
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>>24856975
Megadramon's Genocide Claws are said to be able to cut any material, that means they're CD, his helmet is most likely the same.
Machinedrmaon's upper chest is WarGreymon's therefore at least it's outside layer is CD.
>>24856982
That's why I'm objectively comparing their armor, weapons, speed etc.
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>>24856993

there was no upper limit shown to dragon ascent, it shattered the meteor effortlessly. incidentally, that same attack only damages pokemon, which speaks to how durable they actually are.

and what if that meteor was denser than chromedigizoid? what if it had a stronger fictional metal? what if deoxys being in it made it stronger? and who's to stop it from flying through his beam? who says it gives a shit about his beam?

you're just arbitrarily deciding that your fictional thing is stronger than this other fictional thing from another fictional universe.
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>>24857005
I'm not even that anon and you didn't read >>24857003
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>>24857005
>what if
No room for what if's here. We know for a fact how durable CD is and how thick MetalSeadramon's body is therefore how thick his armor is.
They don't say he's impenetrable and bounces ANY attack off for nothing.
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>>24857011
How did WGM drill through his nose when he couldn't even scratch the rest of his body? That's clearly a weak point and it shows even Chrome Digizoid isn't infallible.
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>>24857012
>How did WGM drill through his nose
His nose is hollow, WarGreymon used his Chrome Digizoid gauntlets to survive blasting trough RIVER OF POWER, when he was inside his Brave Torrnado combined with River of Power being unable to be shot out destroyed MS from the inside lifting his plates up and cracking them, again from the inside out.
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>>24857011

no, you don't, there is no exact measurement, it's only as strong as the plot needs it to be, and it can be circumvented in whatever way the plot needs it to be. you are arbitrarily mixing real world and fictional elements to fit your narrative, and none of that shit matters next to plot.
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>>24857003
That still leaves MetalTyranomon's jaw and Andromon's joints vulnerable.
MetalMamemon's cannons can also be cut off; since the cannons are likely connected to some kind of power source.
Cutting off or breaking either of these would all expose Mugendramon's presumably vulnerable insides. WarGreymon is agile and well-armoured enough to be able to dodge/deflect enough of the Genocide Claws and Trident Arm long enough to either cut them off at the joints, or to simply kill Mugendramon through one of its other weak points.
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>>24853255
this guy gets it
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>>24857019
So, hypothetically, anything that can reach that level of force should be able blast through his nose which has the least protection and was the canon reason he died.
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>metalseadramon

let's make it better
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>>24852319
Oh you will be in for a rough wake up call if you think that.

Watch it be another RBWY character kek
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>>24853332
Isn't VJ just a movie actor?
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In the World games (World, Re:Digitize/Decode; -next 0rder-), Digimon evolve if they hit certain stat requirements (among other factors like care, weight, age, etc.).
We can therefore compare the stats of a typical competitive Charizard build with the minimum stats required for WarGreymon to evolve (in Re:Digitize). These are:
HP: 5000
MP: 4000
DEF: 600
SPD: 400
BRN: 400

We're ignoring MP and Brain since these have no effect on damage calculation. WarGreymon doesn't have a minimum Attack requirement, but let's put this at 400—that's in the range of other Ultimate/Mega levels in this game.

Upon evolving, a Digimon gets a stat boost. I don't know by how much its stats are boosted, but from what I remember playing the game, something like 10% or 500/50 seems close enough. We end up with:
HP: 5500
ATK/Sp.A: 450
DEF/Sp.D: 660
SPD: 450
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>>24857026
>the least protection
>Mega level Digimon with fairly thick CD armor who's also Tai's broken WarGreymon and the last standing defense before MS and the children
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Physical (252+/4/252) M-Charizard X stats at level 100:
HP: 297
ATK: 394
DEF: 259
SP.A: 266
SP.D: 206
SPD: 299

We can now imput these into a damage calculator—see pic related. I've added the strongest attacks available to WarGreymon in the game (you can see which skills it can learn here: https://youtu.be/5wPR_APyquw?t=4m25s ), and used their Power values (taken from this guide: http://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/637157-digimon-world-redigitize/faqs/71924 ) as their Base Power.
WarGreymon can learn Machine, Combat, and Fire attacks, so I've assigned them Steel, Fighting, and Fire type, and given WarGreymon STAB for each. Digimon World games of course have completely different damage calculations than Pokémon games, but let's just treat them as if they were Pokémon attacks.

WarGreymon (Magma Bomb) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 181-213 (60.9 - 71.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
WarGreymon (Fighting Aura) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 843-993 (283.8 - 334.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
WarGreymon (DG Dimenison V2) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 445-524 (149.8 - 176.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(It would be interesting to run calcs for contact moves like Mechanical Claw, taking into account its Dramon Killers which would negate the Steel resistance when used against a Dragon-type, but I can't be bothered right now.)

Now let's see how much damage Mega Charizard X can deal against WarGreymon:

252+ Atk Mega Charizard X Earthquake vs. Wargreymon [Steel/Fire]: 188-224 (3.4% - 4%) -- guaranteed 30HKO
252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. Wargreymon [Steel/Fighting]: 222-264 (4% - 4.8%) -- guaranteed 25HKO

Not much, even given optimal typing. With a defensive nature and maximum HP/Sp.Def. investment, Charizard has a good chance to live through one of WarGreymon's strongest attacks, but it will lose on the next turn. Dragon Dance won't be enough to raise its speed above WarGreymon's, and even if it did, Roost doesn't heal enough in one turn to survive another attack.
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>>24852908
Nah, Pikachu vs Blanka was worse. Coincidentally another battle with a Pokémon, but the whole battle was basically "even" and lasted long enough to show that no move in Pikachu's arsenal would suffice, he might as well have been defeated with Blanka's first move.
I like that one less than this one.
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>>24857069
Yet in DMO
MetalGreymon
>Metal Slash Lv8 = 554
>Giga Destroyer Lv8 = 1573
WarGreymon
>Dramon Killer Lv8 = 1153
>Gaia Force Lv8 = 4133

Most Digimon games have very different mechanics and are different from the Anime therefore cannot be used to measure a gap in Digievolution.
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>>24857069
>>24857099
In short, even using Pokémon mechanics (which are extremely favourable towards Charizard as they ignore power level stuff and lore), it's clear that Mega Charizard X doesn't even begin to compare to even the weakest possible WarGreymon.
I also didn't calculate damage for finishers, which would be absolute overkill.

From what I've seen, I estimate that it would stand a decent chance against a freshly evolved MetalGreymon, though.

Your best bet would be a defensive but sufficiently speedy build that outspeeds after one Dragon Dance. Then you spam Roost and PP/MP stall the opponent (strong Digimon attacks consume a LOT of MP), and when they run out, you greed until you can power through/hope that they Struggle to death.
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>>24857106
I used the Re:Digitize stats since Digimon World was the second (first proper) Digimon video game, and Re:Digitizse is a direct successor to it. Given how they're building on Re:Digitize with -next 0rder- and how it's linked to Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, it seems to me like they're trying to establish the World games as the “mainline” Digimon video games, and also creating a more consistent canon.

I thus took Re:Digitize's stats as the most representative ones. (I also don't know how the Digimon Story games work, and don't think some cheap MMO can speak for the whole franchise.)
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>>24852105
THIS MAKES ME SO MAD, IF THAT FAG DIDN'T CHEAT CHARIZARD WOULD HAVE WON
WHY DID THEY CHOOSE TO PANDER TO A DEAD FRANCHISE
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>Metal Seadramon

Why do you choose such a tiny digimon to "fag" about?
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>>24857571
>fagging about digimon on a pokemon board
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>>24857652
>>24857571
>having fag-phobia.
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>>24856724
link to this video plz
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>>24857925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weZJdFVQ6jk
Not him but this is it, they weren't really that blown the fuck out just really surprised at the brutality of it, they were more confused at Tai punching Red. You can just search Pokemon vs Digimon reaction and find people who were shocked by the climax. I can't find it right now but I remember watching one guy so angry at the fight and insisted that Charizard would have won because Greymon took so many hits throughout the battle and would have died and he actually thinks Charizards flame would melt Digi Chromozoid armor just because it's a metal.1
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>>24857184
Actually if Charizard had a decent move set he would've won
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>>24858254

see
>>24857069
>>24857099
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>>24856755
Mugendramon didn't die though even when Wargreymon killed him, he still lived and became Cyberdramon in Tamers.
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>>24858458
I wanted to call bullshit on various levels, but you're right on every one of them.
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>>24857184
Fuck off, you retarded fanboy. Cyber Sleuth looks good and the only good game to come out of Gen VI so far is Super.

Also, you don't know shit you're talking about, so shut the hell up.
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I hate violence and death, and western culture for endorsing it.
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>>24858541
>Cyber Sleuth looks good and the only good game to come out of Gen VI so far is Super.

ORAS is the best remake in the series and XY is better than DP and BW by leaps and bounds.
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>>24858629
>ORAS is the best remake in the series
Most epic, my friend. I tip my fedora to you good sir.

>and XY is better than DP and BW by leaps and bounds.
well it actually is, but it was still dissatisfactory and I'm still waiting for Z to redeem this gen.
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>>24858594
What the hell? Western culture endorses violence the least of all notable contemporary cultures.
>murder is never deemed justified (compare to honour killings in the Muslim world or in India)
>torture is shunned
>the death penalty is considered immoral
>civilian deaths in war are treated as abhorrent (rather than as tolerable collateral damage like the Russians handle it, or even as a legitimate means to achieve your goals)
>here in Europe even self-defense is practically a crime if you apply “disproportionate” force.
>nowadays even borders and stopping people from crossing them is supposedly evil
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>>24858629
>XY
>better than any of Gen V
>ever
Literally only in content.

>ORAS
>good remake
Un-fucking-believable.
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>>24858865
Now look at our media
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>>24859018
>130 people slaughtered in the heart of France, what's important now is that we do not overreact and harm innocent Muslims
>people threw rocks at a refugee asylum, such disgusting brutality
>Trump is so mean he's literally Hitler
>Russia's airstrikes are killing the wrong jihadist terrorists, they must stop
>look at this poor child whose father irresponsibly put it on an overloaded boat, it's our fault that it is dead now, we must atone for our brutal cold-heartedness
>we must stop people from saying things that could make group a like group b less, which in turn could hypothetically lead to a second holocaust
>a poor innocent violent criminal was shot by policemen while he attacked them, end police brutality now
Kinda proving my point there.
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>>24858672
They're probably holding out for the 7th Gen since Z IS STILL NOT FUCKING ANNOUNCED. Normally, a third version gets released 2 years after the first two, but nope guess we either need to wait for a 3rd year or the next handheld.
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>>24857069
A Pokemon's HP can't go beyond 999, so it's unfair to compare two characters in terms of game mechanics when the way how they treat the HP limit and all differently.
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Here I found someone who can kill both of them
His name is Zeorymer

What do I win?
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>>24859329
They can't even go beyond 714. I discovered this while making these calcs.
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>>24859509
I was talking in terms of programming. It's like comparing characters from different fighting games even if their life bars are different in length and substance.
Or to make a better example, comparing Tales of Symphonia characters with ones from Breath of Fire II with game mechanics even though the former has a HP cap of 9999 and the latter has one of 999.
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>>24857034
Joe is IN a movie during the first and second game, his powers work in the movie world and fuck around with movie based things.

>Slowing the the movie and somehow being able to hit harder
>Speeding himself up making him fast enough to make doubles and triples of himself, as well as catch on a special type of fire that makes him immune to lava and enemy fire
>Zooms in on himself which makes normal enemies fear him, as well as give him different and better attacks
>Can summon a giant fuck you cannon
>Can summon the Six Majin which is so big you can see if from space as it uses the Earth as it's platform to fight on
>Can summon the Six x Six Majin which is so big that its around the same size as the sun

Joe ends up in the real world at the end of the second game, and with movie loving people rooting for him he was able to use his powers in the real world, VJ3 was seemingly going take place completely in the real world, meaning that it wasn't a one time thing.

The DS game also shows you can use a special camera on Joe and it lets him become Viewtiful Joe as well.
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What's the MetalSeadramon of Pokemon?

Talonflame? That fucker can apparently wreck anything and his only real weakness is rocks.
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>>24852894
it looks shit

you want a great WarGreymon variant? pic is

>>24852166
>badass
>literally did nothing but ANGST in 02
>died like a bitch in the end because muh feelings
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>>24862347
>MetalSeadramon
that shill jerked off about that thing for like 3 hours last night when it was raped during its first appearance on the show, like the equivalent of that Charizard facebook post "Charizard would only take 1/4 steath pebs damage if you EV train its HP"

guy should turn his trip back on, Christ
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>>24856289
> Restraints of killing are removed
> red doesn't use six mons at once to kill foe
Rigged as fuck
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>>24852105
When that Digimon fuck attacks Red... As if Red wouldn't have knocked his punk ass out. Another subjective shit show. Good that whole thing was just another farce.
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>>24862426
>red doesn't use six mons at once to kill foe
>implying all 151 original Pokemon would have been strong enough to kill WarGreymon
I hope that's bait and you aren't that retarded.
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>>24862432
>implying Red knows how to fight
>implying Red isn't a coward
>implying Red would ever fight himself and risk to get hurt
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>>24856756
> klefki used swagger
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>>24862434
Maybe not by sheer power but with enough utility moves like confuse rays, ghost curse, and so on there is decent chance to win for pokemon. You shouldn't underestimate how strong can be 151 foes at once.
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>>24862453
>You should never underestimate how strong 151 foes can be at once

This. WarGreymon would be forced to use Terra Force before all that abuse made him De-Digivolve unless he was smart and blitzed everything as fast a possible before they could even touch him.

Though, it goes without saying he'd effortlessly curbstomp every Legendary before Gen III.
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>>24862470
Well, half of them are NFE and then you got shit like Parasect and Wigglytuff in that collection of 151.
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>>24862453
>You shouldn't underestimate how strong can be 151 foes at once.
You apparently didn't learn anything from this thread.
At least 140 of those foes would die on the first Gaia Force leaving only the Pokemon who're able to fly at high speeds alive.
Those pokemon would be;
>Charizard
>Pidgeot
>Fearow
>Alakazam
>Areodactly
>Articuno
>Zapdos
>Molteres
>Dragonite
>Mew and Mewtwo
Now, if Mew and Mewtwo would somehow be able to hold WarGreymon in place with their psychic powers, all the other pokemons attacks might only cause mild discomfort to a CD armored Mega level Digimon.
His attacks on the other hand, Brave Tornado, Gaia Force, Dramon Killer, War Drive and Dramon Tackle are all OHKill for fragile, small creatures like Pokemon.
>shoot out of the smoke cloud caused by the full scale attack
>impale MewTwo, violently toss carcass at Mew to distract him
>Brave Tornado to shred Mew
>tank all the incoming Beam attacks + Fire Blast
>Brave Tornado to shred Moltres and Zapdos
>impale Articuno, use carcass to deflect an incoming Hyper Beam or Fire Blast
>chase down and butcher the remaining Pokemon
>Gaia Force nuke what is left
"That was rough."
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>>24862557
Okay, so WarGreymon would completely stomp all 151 original Pokemon.

Only fair match I can think of for him is Groudon.
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>>24862557
>inb4 pokemon attacks aren't that weak
Yes they are, a Hyper Beam or Fire Blast can only compare to Champion level digimon attacks.
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>>24862566
>Only fair match I can think of for him is Groudon If you replace his hide with Chrome Digizoid armor than yes, it might look like a fair fight.
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>>24862572
You know I love me some WarGreymon (no wait, screw that, I love VictoryGreymon more), you're just turning him into some Warhammer shit.

>>24862569
since we're using anime for scale, I'd argue an attack isn't just "an attack", like a Hyper Beam from an early route critter would be different from a Hyper Beam of a pseudolegendary as shown in the anime
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>>24862572
Pretty sure Groudon isn't so much a living being as an embodiment of earth, especially after Primal Reverting into a literal body of magma.

I don't think he has any blood or organs.
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>>24862557
Can't they use psychic and shit like that as direct mental attack to bypass armor?
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>>24862578
WarGreymon was attacked by one million Diablomon using their most powerful attack Catastrophe Cannon yet he still lived.
And lets be real, no Pokemon can hit as hard as a Mega level Digimon.
>>24862581
What happens to Groudon once you tear a giant hole in his abdomen severing his upper body from his legs?
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>>24862587
To what purpose? Only delaying the inevitable even if they could somehow interact with his brain which seems unlikely due to him being such a different being.
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>>24862612
I thought those Diablomon were just mimics. Also I'm gonna play Devimon's Advocate and argue that Digimon attacks are hard to scale with since they only attack Digimon.

My favorite broken Digimon is still X7S/X7 and to some extent OShoutmon. And while I sexualize a lot of Digimon Shoutmon is my nigga and is pure.
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>>24862612
WarGreymon just blasts through a bunch of hardened and molten magma?

He'd have to just blow his ass up and I have no doubt Primal Groudon of all 700+ Pokemon could tank Terra Force and be perfectly fine afterwards.
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>>24862625
>WarGreymon just blasts through a bunch of hardened and molten magma?
Yes, when using Brave Tornado he uses his massive Chrome Digizoid made Dramon Killer gauntlets to shield his body, the high speed, armor and energy would be more than enough to drill right though magma. His elemental attribute is also Fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3AvtpRCt2s
As you can see he managed to
>deflect a Mega level Digimons particle cannon
>survive inside a MetalSeadramon who's blowing himself up from the inside
>with the help of MetalSeadramon killing himself from the inside he managed to crack and penetrate thick CD armor plates
of course the armor on MS wasn't nearly as effective from inside but still it's quite a feat
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Again, playing devil's advocate, all of his feats are limited to Digimon
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>>24862653
No, I know WarGreymon would give no fucks about lava, but what I'm saying is if Primal Groudon has no vitals, he'll literally just blast through a living mass of rock and magma.
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>>24862799
Digimon have often been forced to manifest in the human world in some cases, most memorably WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon VS VenomMyotismon.
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>>24862831
yeah but those are Adventures though, and mostly for spectacle shit

also most of those had hints of "Digital World is crawling into real world"

besides if you're gonna use Digimon going in human world just go for XW for something amazing
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>>24862839
WarGreymon did kick a fucking building at VenomMyotismon apparently.
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>Messing around with garbage low tier dark masters when pic related exists
>Freed Apocalymon from its prison who created Machinedramon and the other dark masters
>Made Ken into the Digimon Emperor just so he could eventually create Kimeramon
>Born from Machinedramon and Kimeramon on their last legs
>Somehow created this paradox just to birth itself
>Immediately made every Digimon universe its bitch
>Perfect control over time and space, can create uber clones, create/destroy entire dimensions/universes
>If you kill it, it just comes back even stronger like nothing happened
>Was only ever stopped because Ryo was such a fucking gary stu that it couldn't help but be tsundere for him
When did you realize that the entire multiverse is fucked the moment Ryo dies?
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>>24862799
>Again, playing devil's advocate, all of his feats are limited to Digimon
Who're in every way stronger than Pokemon.
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>>24862918
>Messing around with garbage low tier dark masters when pic related exists
Because I like pokefags to think they stand a chance.
>low tier
Metal Seadramon is arguably the strongest Dark Master.
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>>24862918
If I heard correctly from that one video about the 10 strongest Digimon, Monodramon had to force a DNA Digivolution into Cyberdramon.

>>24862946
I can't think of anything. The most obvious choice is Arceus, but that's boring and he'd get his ass kicked anyways.
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>>24862946
Machinedramon was the strongest in terms of raw power. There's a reason he was one of Millenniummon's components and not MetalSeadramon.

MetalSeadramon was a beast at the time, but to be fair all he really has going for him is being defensive as fuck. Which is absolutely meaningless when you start to go up in tiers of power. All that Chrome Digizoid armor won't do a goddamn thing to stop, say, cloaked Daemon, who would easily be a mid tier Mega.

Having no particular alignment or myth stacked behind him does him no favors, either. MetalSeadramon is barely above a trash Mega in the grand scheme of things. His time and experience as a mega over WarGreymon/MetalGarurumon was what gave him such an advantage.
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>>24862968
That's correct, although the only reason Zeed let him get to that point was because it wanted to be Ryo's partner anyways. Regardless of how that encounter turned out, it won. When Ryo dies, there's a good chance it'll just will itself back into Millenniummon/ZeedMillenniummon and continue wrecking shit.

Also that top 10 video was full of shit otherwise, there's no way anything in Xros Wars could beat Zeed.
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>>24862918
Is this the most powerful fictional being of all time?
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>>24862994
Without going into outright omnipotence/omniscience, basically. It has its equals, and arguably has its superiors, although in many of those decisions, the participants seem to forget that ZeedMillenniummon is capable of absolutely crazy levels of time manipulation.
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>>24863002
>can create/destroy entire time dimensions and universes
sounds pretty motherfucking OP tbqfh
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>>24863007
It's incredibly motherfucking OP, yes. It's literally the strongest Digimon in the entire franchise.
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>>24862979
MetalSeadramon's and MachineDramon
>MS fully covered in thick CD, Impenetrable defense, no Mega level can compete.
MD has only a few parts made of enhanced CD, Ultimate level tier defense
>MS has a Mega level weapon, would fuck MD's shit up
MD has many Ultimate level weapons, despite being able to spam attacks, none of them have the capacity to harm MS or damage his armor
>MS has supreme speed
MD is fairly slow
>MS can fly, float, dive, move trough the ground
MD can only move on ground
>MS is bigger and could easily overwhelm MD with his body's weight and size

I LOVE Machinedramon as much as the next guy, but he's imply outclassed MetalSeadramon.
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>>24863015
>can create/destroy entire time dimensions and universes
Again, I can't think of a single character that could stand against that.

Even something like Infinity Gauntlet couldn't stop it since it's only effective in its own universe. ZMM could just create its own universe to fight in and/or destroy that one.

Like, what could even kill it.
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>>24862994
>Is this the most powerful fictional being of all time?
No, ZeedMilleniummon without his restrains is, the sole existence of a unbound Zeed is enough to wipe out dimensions.
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Maybe you'd like me to step my game up?
Is there any Pokemon that could kill a literally perfect Digimon like GigaSeadramon?

GigaSeadramon is an improved version of MetalSeadramon, it is classified as a "Gigantic Assault Landing Ship" Digimon. His speed, defense and offense ensure his supremacy in the Net Ocean.
>A cyborg completely made out of Chrome Digizoid, thanks to his huge size his armor is so thick it is impenetrable.
>Fastest aquatic Digimon, arguably even faster when flying, can effortlessly move trough the ground.
>Can carry various Digimon inside himself including a ChaosDramon.
Giga Sea Destroyer; Shoots a gigantic energy torpedo from it's mouth.
Sky Wave; Shoots countless anti-air energy missiles at his opponent(s).
Can bite with his enormous metallic jaw
Can use its gigantic body to crush or slam into enemies.
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>>24863021
>but he's simply outclassed by MetalSeadramon
Fixed.

Also the only thing Machinedramon has on MS is his intelligence and ruthlessness.
Machinedramon never fucks around or plays with his prey.
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>>24863026
>literally perfect Digimon

You really love Seadramon's line, don't you, anon?
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>>24863026
How about we go even further.
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>>24863024
>>24863025
Shit. Call in The One Above All and Elder God Demonbane immediately.
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>>24863024
>Like, what could even kill it.
You cannot kill Zeed if he doesn't will it, even if you do kill him, he'll just create another time paradox to be reborn stronger than before.
>>24863026
You forgot the picture faggot.
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>>24863034
>some gay shit that couldn't even make the tiniest scratch on GIgaSeadramon
ok
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This guy vs. ZeedMilleniummon who wins?
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>>24863021
Machindedramon outclasses MetalSeadramon in terms of raw power. I bet you think all of those shiny parts are only as powerful as they were on their respective ultimates. Well, that's a filthy lie right there. He's greater than the sum of his parts, and those cannons on his back could easily punch holes through MetalSeadramon. Which his size would make it so easy to do. You do know what his Japanese name was, don't you? Mugendramon. Mugen means infinite, as in this thing is capable of infinite destruction.

Let's not also forget that he's much more intelligent than MetalSeadramon. And cold as fuck. And friendly reminder that machines were the top tier among Ultimates.
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I think ZeedMilleniummon needs to get added to that powerlevel chart /a/ has.

Also, personally, I think Yveltal belongs in Special Tier.
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>>24863034
>literally who
Who?
>>24863044
Zeed.
>>24863032
What is there not to like?
Betamon is cute as fuck, and the rest are just well designed.
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>>24863053
ZeedMilleniummon is on that chart.
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>>24863055
>God Spawn vs. ZeedMilleniummon who wins?
>Zeed
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>>24863042
>>24863055
>A subspecies of Digimon born from the fusion of a Plesiomon with Seadramon-species data.
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Fun game: Take a shot every time someone cites "Chrome Digizoid"
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>>24863062
cool OC kiddo
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>>24862946
Why are you complaining about pokemon fans on their own containment board?
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>>24862946
>Metal Seadramon is arguably the strongest Dark Master
It got raped in one second by WGM. Machinedramon was at least a thread and Piedmon was stronger than either of them.
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>>24863049
>Machindedramon outclasses MetalSeadramon in terms of raw power.
In energy output yes.
>I bet you think all of those shiny parts are only as powerful as they were on their respective ultimates.
They are, there's nothing to indicate they actually were improved.
The attack that sliced MD like butter couldn't even scratch MS's armor.
>those cannons on his back could easily punch holes through MetalSeadramon
They couldn't because they're a Ultimate level digimon's weapons, the bolts of energy would just bounce of Metal Seadramons body.
The only difference on the weapons is, Machinedramon can spam them like a machine gun thanks to his infinite supply of energy.
>Which his size would make it so easy to do
Wrong, his size only makes his Chrome Digizoid armor thicker.
His size also doesn't slow him down at all, he is the fastest aquatic Digimon for a reason.
>as in this thing is capable of infinite destruction
Wrong, his name come from his infinite energy supply that comes from his corrupt DigiCore

Machinedramon cannot harm MetalSeadramon, but MetalSeadramon can crush that body of his without any trouble.
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>>24863057
If it's the chart I'm looking at, honestly it's kinda low on the chart. I mean, Zeed basically completely surpassed all the rules and laws of the universe it was born in. And how can reality warping do shit to something with perfect control over space and time?
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>>24863089
I don't get how something like Zeed could be hurt or killed by anything when it can warp any time, reality or dimension to its will.
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>it's a /vp/ Digimon thread
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>>24863083
>It got raped in one second by WGM
Not true, they fought with MetalSeadramon the longest, Machinedramon fell down the quickest.

Why don't we analyze Piedmon and MetalSeadramon's weaponry and defense and see who's stronger?
Oh wait, Piedmon has no weapon to harm MS.
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>>24863101
Piedmon rapestroyed MetalGarurumon and WarGreymon at the same time.

WGM solo'd MetalSeadramon in one second.

???
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>>24863086
Machinedramon displayed immense destructive power far beyond any Ultimate in Digimon Adventure. Again, he's far greater than the sum of his parts. His flavor text supports this, saying that the lesser mecha Digimon were all said to be prototypes.

Which means that it's almost assured that that every component was improved upon drastically. Also going to point out that WarGreymon was able to tank River of Power relatively easily, albeit while spinning. He had to put EVERYTHING into hitting Machinedramon, and he still barely came out of it. And hell, Machinedramon wasn't even using his cannons in that exchange. Had he said fuck it and blasted him from afar, he'd have won like that. Sorry friend, but MetalSeadramon will have to settle for second strongest among the dark masters.
>>24863083
Piedmon wasn't stronger than either of them, he just had crazy as fuck magic and was considerably trickier.
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>>24863101
You're comparing a fight with a newbie Wargreymon to a battle hardened Wargreymon that went through two dark masters and infighting. Also Wargreymon put way more into the Machinedramon fight.
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>>24863111
Yes, but does Piedmon have any weapons capable of harming MetalSeadrmaon?
>http://wikimon.net/Piemon
Nope he doesn't.

Does MS have any means of harming Piedmon?
Way to many.
>Ultimate Stream
Would pulverize Piedmon who has no CD defenses and is too tiny to actually escape the blast
>Body Slam
Piedmon is quite small, the GIGANTIC Metalseadramon could simply crush him by landing on him
>Falme Thrower
Can easily burn Piedmon's Clown Trick
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>>24863127
Piedmon could do whatever it did to the two MC Megas, except MSM is bigger and more retarded.
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>>24863130
>and more retarded

SHOTS FIRED
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>>24863137
I mean that WGM and MGM are relatively articulate and MSM is a thoughtless violent beast.

Piedmon would make short work of that punk.
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>>24863113
>Which means that it's almost assured that that every component was improved upon drastically.
>not made out of Chrome Digizoid
>cannot kill Champion level Digimon upon impact
You're full of shit.
MetalSeadramon does as much damaged with a simple tail whip on a Ultimate as Machinedramon does with a Blast from his cannon on a Champion.
Machinedramon stands far above all Ultimates, but he cannon defeat someone who's resistant to all he's got, all of what he shown and his parts shown, are basically useless against MetalSeadramons defense and agility.
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>>24863130
>Piedmon could do whatever it did to the two MC Megas
He couldn't because MetalSeadramon is much larger, faster and has more means to deflect anything Piedmon can throw at him.
Oh did I forgot to mention he's covered with CD so thick it is considered impenetrable?
>retarded
Someone's getting upset.
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>>24863158
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3AvtpRCt2s

Yeah what a fucking beast.

And Piedmon makes short work of the guy who just turned Seafaggot into flotsam.
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>>24863149
Come on anon, you know those Champions had plot armor protecting them. Plus they were all much stronger than they were when they fought MetalSeadramon. Machinedramon got shafted in the show, likely due to time constraights. It was like, what, three episodes later they were fighting Apocalymon?

I bet now you're going to tell me MetalSeadramon is stronger than Apocalymon.

So are you the same anon who's been shitposting for months about this on here and /v/, or what?
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You know what they should do next? Super Buu VS Kid Buu.

I'm not even joking. This is an actual debate that has raged for entire years with both sides fanatically referencing every existing translation or line of dialogue that can be used as an argument.

And it'd be amusing as fuck to see the losing side's reaction.
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>>24863172
>You know what they should do next?
>they
DeathBattle should do nothing but fucking go away. Normie reddit facbook fags.
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>>24863094
It has a weakness.
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>>24862924
relative though

>>24862994
this one

you can't be strong WITHOUT THE POWER OF THEME MUSIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNzrqFs5U_E
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>all these faggots who only know Adventure-era mons
>no one even mentions fucking Arkadimon

disgusting the lot of you
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>>24863185
>some gay waifu shitmon
leave
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>>24863187
>bastemon
>waifu shitmon
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>>24863165
>Piedmon could do whatever it did to the two MC Megas
He couldn't because MetalSeadramon is much larger, faster and has more means to deflect anything Piedmon can throw at him.
Oh did I forgot to mention he's covered with CD so thick it is considered impenetrable?
>>24863167
That beyond the point, what I'm saying is, his attacks just don't have the power to penetrate or destroy MetalSeadramon's armor.
He could definitely push MetalSeadramon around by spamming Infinity Cannon, Genocide Attack and Giga Destroyed, but how long until MetalSeadramon fucks his shit up with RIVER OF POWER or goes undergorund only to attack Machinedramon from below?
Yes and it is not shitposting.
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>>24863185
>no one even mentions fucking Arkadimon
Why? We're talking about better known Digimon so more people can discuss the topic.
>>24863187
That is not Arkadimon
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>>24863198
>He couldn't because MetalSeadramon is much larger, faster and has more means to deflect anything Piedmon can throw at him.
>Oh did I forgot to mention he's covered with CD so thick it is considered impenetrable?

It's simple math.
WarGreymon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MetalSeadramon
Piedmon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WarGremon
therefore
Piedmon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MetalSeadramon
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>>24863206
Does Piedmon have any weapons capable of harming MetalSeadrmaon?
>http://wikimon.net/Piemon
Nope he doesn't.

Does MS have any means of harming Piedmon?
Way to many.
>Ultimate Stream
Would pulverize Piedmon who has no CD defenses and is too tiny to actually escape the blast
>Body Slam
Piedmon is quite small, the GIGANTIC Metalseadramon could simply crush him by landing on him
>Falme Thrower
Can easily burn Piedmon's Clown Trick
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>>24863204
because plebs and adventure shit

they're missing out good stuff like V-Tamer
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>>24862436
Yeah, okay kid. Keep rooting for your shit-tier Pokemon clone.
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>>24863206
That's math? Are you some retard?
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>>24863172
>Buu vs Buu
They would both be eaten by Kirby.
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>>24863210
>xros wars
>>24863241
Yes he is.
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>>24863247
>hating xros wars

another pleb

fuck and I thought /vp/'s bad tastes are limited to Pokemon
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>>24863241
So you're saying it's a rock/paper/scissors match but MetalSeadramon is somehow stronger?

ok
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>>24863198
Chrome Digizoid still doesn't mean shit in the Mega levels. I'll put it this way.

Notice all those components from MetalGreymon on Machinedramon? It even has the breast missiles. Which are nukes. They're not even as strong as the cannons. All he'd have to do is fire into that big gaping hole in MetalSeadramon's face and then he'd be dead.

I still disagree with you, but holy shit your posts amuse me to no end. Please don't ever stop.

>>24863210
V-Tamer is god tier as fuck. It's not my fault the Adventure universe shat out ZeedMillenniummon.
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>>24863251
>So you're saying it's a rock/paper/scissors match
Nobody said that, however some anon compared their arsenal and Metalseadramon is obviously superior to Piemon.
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>>24863259
they're missing out a lot

Sucks only V-Tamer, Savers (to some extent), and Xros Wars fleshed out the partner mon properly. No, Tamers was shit in that.
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>>24863264
Impmon was pretty fleshed out, but I suppose calling him a partner mon would be a stretch.

I'm sorry friend, I couldn't get into Xros Wars. Too much butthurt over Lucemon being a fucking lacky and the whole thing being combining mecha. But fuck, We Are Xros Heart is the best song ever.
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>>24863259
>Chrome Digizoid still doesn't mean shit in the Mega levels. I'll put it this way.
Chome Digizoi means everything, especially when comparing machine-cyborg Digimon.

When Machinedramon fought WarGreymon he went for Trident Arm Attack instead of any other weapon because he was smart enough to figure out it would be the only weapon he has capable of taking down a CD plated adversary like WarGreymon.

>All he'd have to do is fire into that big gaping hole in MetalSeadramon's face and then he'd be dead.
>implying any of his projectiles can survive going trough RIVER OF POWER
>implying any of his projectiles have the combined power of Brave Tornado and RIVER OF POWER exploding inside MetalSeadramons body.
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>>24863281
The best part of Xros is the development of the Digimon, really you should give it another go, some of the Digimon are not very fitting with what their lore says, but at least it gives them a chance to be animated.

I mean, would you every expect this guy to be animated?
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>>24863281
Lucemon might be a lackey but, like Arkadimon, their canon strength is referenced a lot. Like how Arkadimon is the only Digimon that can exist within the realm between lands (as Digimon fade the moment they get out of their lands) and Lucemon being the strongest "lackey" after absorbing the darkness.

But part of my love of it is that it is a mecha show.

And yeah as much as I love Impmon and his evo he isn't really partner material until the end and that's cheating.
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>>24863286
I don't know why you think Chrome Digizoid is impenetrable. It's not. In fact, many Digimon have absolutely wrecked WarGreymon's armor, without the aide of Chrome Digizoid anything.

Chrome Digizoid matters less and less the further you get into the Mega tiers. There's a long list of Megas that would absolutely stomp MetalSeadramon. Shit, Lucemon is a fucking rookie and would obliterate him with ease. Chrome Digizoid or not.

And do you have any idea how powerful a modern nuke is? The first nukes dropped back in the 40s were citybusters. We have nukes far, far, far, far, far more powerful now. Think about that.

I'm turning in, so I guess I'm throwing in the towel. You seem to have a healthy admiration for Machinedramon, even if you obviously love MetalSeadramon so much more. That's okay. They're both really cool Digimon. Never stop your MetalSeadramonposting.
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>>24863301
>I don't know why you think Chrome Digizoid is impenetrable.
I never claimed CD is impenetrable, I'm claiming MetalSeadramon's armor is so thick it's impenetrable, the wiki confirmed that as well as WarGreymon's Dramon Killer attack being utterly ineffective.

>Lucemon
Doesn't count, especially as a rookie.
>pic related, is me and my Lucemon

>And do you have any idea how powerful a modern nuke is?
Watch the anime, neither Machinedramon, Andromon or MetalGreymon have that power.

I actually prefer Machinedramon over MetalSeadramon, but that doesn't mean he'd have the upper hand.
Also I wouldn't post Machinedramon as he's way more deadly than MetalSeadramon when fighting low tier enemies like any Pokemon ever conceived.
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>>24863301
How strong are modern nukes compared to the Tsar Bomba (50 MT) then?
>>24863322
What about characters whose attacks or abilities ignore (conventional) durability?
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>>24862623
>X7
Man, it's a shame that it's design was kinda shit compared to the X6 in the manga, because this whole sequence for X7 was just magical.
https://youtu.be/eoPt0Jx8Wtk?t=29s
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>>24863528
It looks fine honestly.
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>>24863541
It's too cluttered. It has tons of useless shit hanging off it's back, while having more clashing colors than a clown car. It just reminds me of those old Transformers from the 90's that could sort of combine, but when you did it, it was super wobbly and unstable and couldn't do anything other than lay there like a brick without falling apart.
Meanwhile, Ex6 had the right idea of uniforming all the colors and streamlining the core body so that the design was still coherent. Even if it was also still a bit cluttered around the back area, the colors and the slimmer body do wonders for making the whole thing look much better IMO.
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>>24863567
The back are Starmonz though. And it is the source of a mandala-esque beam wave for 7 Victorize.

With that said I agree on the color, that's why X7S is better.
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mfw genuine autists are acting like red is dead as if its a person who died in real life and as if the character itself is gone as a concept entirely and will never appear even if as a reference ever again

christ I hate people who take this animated fanfiction shit so seriously
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Literally none of pokemon's monsters can stand up to digimon's monsters though. Whats the big deal? Does no one understand that?
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Can't chronomon holy mode fuck up zeed though?
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Its time to delete the pokemon board and turn it into a digimon board
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>>24863523
>What about characters whose attacks or abilities ignore (conventional) durability?
Gib examples.
>>24863604
>mfw genuine autists are acting like red is dead
But he is, did you miss the Death Battle?
>>24863770
No need, Digimon is welcome on all other boards.
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>>24863902
I don't fucking mean in the context of the fanfiction animation damn it, I am referring to people acting like its because of screwattack's video that red is canonically considered dead like gamefreak signed his likeliness off the list. Its just like the fucking idiots acting the same way in regards to other various anime character favorites that screw attack killed off.
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Pokefags deserve it for all the shit their autism brings to the internet.
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>>24863628
>iterally none of pokemon's monsters can stand up to digimon's monsters
That is soon to change.
>>24863770
No, this containment boar should stay.
>>24863922
Nobody cares about that technical shit.
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I summon this guy

Gg no re, dinosaurs
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