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So /vp/, do you want Crawdaunt to stay in BL or come back down
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So /vp/, do you want Crawdaunt to stay in BL or come back down to UU?

Also, which set do you prefer? Swords dance? Or choice band? If you like the choice band set do you like super power or switcheroo in the last slot?
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dragon dance for my nigga crab
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>>24847720
BL
Super power
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>>24847720
On the one hand, there is absolutely no reason to use it in OU when Weavile, Bisharp, Gyarados and Azumarill outclass it completely there

On the other, what could check or counter it in UU?
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>>24847746
None of those options in ou have access to crawdaunts immediate, enormous power and wallbreaking ability

And no, nothing in uu even comes close to being a check, let alone a switchin
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>>24847895
>not checking SD crawdaunt with fully defensive mega sharpedo
:^)
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>>24847720
fuck it off to BL

>>24847895
>None of those options in ou have access to crawdaunts immediate, enormous power and wallbreaking ability
Bisharp and Azumarill outclass it respectively in swords dance and choice band.
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>>24850771
Mega? fug, dude. Rough skin/rocky helmet sharpedo is where it's at.
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>>24850869
That boosted knock off damage though
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>>24850816
>SD bisharp
Unpopular last time I checked. And I said immediate power.

>cb azu
Yes, but

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Umbreon: 220-259 (55.8 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Umbreon: 247-291 (62.6 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

(obv azumarill would use play rough, but you get the point)
And plus crawdaunt isn't locked into a move and can freely use priority/set up.

Azu is generally the better choice anyway due to water / fairy stab coverage (though nuclear knock offs do wonders for crawdaunt), and better bulk/typing. However, in terms of pure wallbreaking, crawdaunt probably reigns supreme over the entire non ubers meta. I would need more calcs and research to prove that statement, but I'm too tired and my autism isn't triggered enough

>>24850771
252 Atk Life Orb Crawdaunt Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sharpedo: 291-343 (84.5 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

:^)
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Tyrantrum's Head smash is stronger than anything Crawdaunt has.
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>>24852120
That's a stupid statement. First off the only way tyrantrum has higher power is by choice band (and that's its only move that's stronger btw). Second off rock/Dragon stabs hit less than water/dark stabs. Third off tyrantrum has access to neither knock off nor priority.

Please learn competitive battling if you want to speak on it
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>>24847895
boo
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>he doesn't use ice beam in the fourth slot
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Keep Crawdaunt in UU. It hits hard but its very frail and slow. I don't see it often and never had trouble with it.
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>>24847720
they should make a whole new tier for pokemon like Crawdaunt and Staraptor
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>>24852477
Poor Staraptor.
Outclassed by Bravest Bird in every way, shape, and form besides raw power.
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>>24852449
>not running knock off/crab hammer/hone claws/blizzard
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>>24852540
Talonflame still gets walled by anything like Heatran, Tyranitar etc. meanwhile Staraptor learns Close Combat so there's something
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