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Charizard vs Greymon
(Hope they do Lucario vs Leomon or Garurumon in the future)
Greymon easily
>>24831714
>lucario
No.Charizard. They will be biased. Would rather have Greymon winning though.
www twitch tv/screwattack
8PM Central TODAY to see the victor
Charizard only because it's Screwattack and the obvious usually loses
>>24831714
I love charizard but I don't think he can win.
Will there be mega evolution? If yes, Greymon.If no, still Greymon.
Screwattack knows their audience.
Charizard.
Nice thread OP but can anyone defeat Madeira Uchihuaua
itll be a tie
>>24831933
>a tie
yeah lol, made of Charizard skin
>>24831732
how many hours left from that?
Screw AttackWins!!
Becauseyou douches are giving views on their video
>>24832139
well if this match up was made by a Pokemon or Digimon fan bias will be intended and they would leave out major factors
>>24832139
do you also wear a tinfoil hat?
>>24831714
Wargreymon
Official fan blog has released consensus
http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-battle-predictions-charmander-line-vs-agumon-line
>>24832399
They failed to note Marcus's Agumon since they listed almost every trainer who owner a damn charizard. They also failed to note Skullgreymon.
The blog is biased
>>24832399
>they're going to use the glacier feat
>Wargreymon EXTREMELY restricted
DING DONG prepare for the usual slipperly slope
>>24832463
It's specifically Tai's Agumon for the fight and all of the members went with Greymon as the winner
>Finally there’s the fact……..that THIS ENTIRE BLOG IS SKEWED TOWARDS CHARIZARD TO GIVE HIM THE GREATEST CHANCE! We used multiple Charizards to scale Red’s Charizard, while didn’t really do that for the Agumon-line because that would make him broken. We acknowledge usable items from Pokemon, but not the Digimon games.
>Did you know Wargreymon has alternate even more powerful forms he can access in the games or other media? We didn’t mention those, but we mentioned both Mega-evolutions for Charizard. The Agumon line can learn many more moves in the games than what we listed here, though we only brought up Charizard’s other learned or taught moves.
>We mentioned all 4 of Charizards abilities, even though he can only really have 1 at a time. However we didn’t mention Wargreymon basically has an equivalent in the games, where he can equip 4 at once that heighten his stats even more and more or less NULLIFY FIRE ATTACKS.
>Honestly it says a lot when we bassically make a super composite for Charizard and then remove or don’t mention a ton of stuff for Augmon, and Charizard still comes up short.
>I’m sorry I love Charizard but he’s not winning this fight.
>>24832472
I know that, And the Charizard in the battle belongs to Red but they went ahead in listed Ash's,Alain's. It just the fact that they didnt list Marcuc's Agumon
>>24832131
19 minutes
8 MINUTES
7 minutes.
twitch tv / screwattack
>>24831714
How the outcome should be
>Greymon wins
How it will end up
>Charizard wins
All things considered, in their trailer for the battle, the shrank Greymon down to the same size as Charizard. Which is bullshit considering Greymon is canonically the size of a 2 story building, but I guess they will need some way for Charizard to win.
Doesn't charizard have the advantage of not being able to demega unless defeated?
That sounds like a big advantage.
>>24832552
yeah honestly what's gonna happen is Greymon is gonna go into Wargreymon, kick some ass then right before he can do the finishing blow, his mega will wear off into Kuromon then die.
Basically Shadow vs Vegeta
>>24832544
oh damn they really did size him down
when it is starting???
>>24832560
Honestly even if all the odds are against charizard maybe these guys will fined some obscure trivia that could turn the tides around.
Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDKjnk7Vhw
Delayed until 8:30 now...21 minutes from now
>>24832561
isn't he only like 10 feet tall? Still taller than charizard but it still not has much bigger.
>>24832560
If it happens like that everything Deathbattle has done up to this point, all their "research" means nothing and they are a garbage heap of shit that is a bunch of biased fuck nuggets.
>>24832586
>>24832561
Maybe it has to do with the fact the models are from a PSP game
>>24832565
8:30, delayed.
>>24832586
In both the first digimon movie and the first season of digimon Greymon, (not metal/Wargreymon) stood roughly 25-30feet tall, that isn't including head to tail full length. And they are basing this EXCLUSIVLY off Ty's Greymon and not other Greymons to get a good average.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDKjnk7Vhw
Since this is the Season 2 finale do you think they will go all out for this one in terms of quality or will it be like a normal episode?
>>24832590
PROOF RIGHT HERE THAT GREYMON WINS! LOOK HOW FUCKING BIG HE IS!
And in this sense, yes, size most definitely does matter.
>>24832592
How big was he in the last season?
>Boomstick jokes
Oh no
>>24832598
>expecting quality from them
I actually smirked to the fishes joke
fucking stupid
>>24832638
I wasn't paying attention, what was it?
>>24832587
>>24832620
Salty
>>24832641
why do fishes live in saltwater?
Because they're allergic to pepper
Man, I don't even know why I'm planning on watching this, it's probably not going to be good, and it's probably not going to be fair.
>youtube is loading
Oh no you don't. Guess I'm going to change to Twitch again if I actually want to catch this shit Live. Fucking unreleable youtube.
Charizard will win.
People keep saying Greymon is giant, but he can range from 3 FT. to the size of building. Digimon sizes vary big time.
Ok nerds, here we go!
ITS HAPPENING
>>24832658
Size isn't even a factor in this fight. The tallest wargreymon/Charizard has the same strength as the smallest.
Also jesus that "wooooo" just scared the living shit out of me.
Even if its unlikely I hope charizard wins fair and square.
>>24832658
>3 FT
What the fuck are you looking at m8?
Jibanyan vs Pikachu
Callling it now, Tough Claws will be a deciding factor
>This match will about the core concepts between Digimon and Pokemon
Pokemon wins
>>24832691
You realize the Greymon in the anime isn't the only Greymon to ever exist in anything right?
Should be Greymon will be Charizard
>Trainer vs Trainer
isn't Tai a Pussy in Tri?
They just showed their mlp knowledge on camera
fucking
disguuuuuuusting
>>24832701
See Marcus wouldve have been better rep for agumon cause Marcus will literally fight a monster/digimon. But I guess they are paying homage to the original ones
>>24832676
Actually the size of Digimon is actually proportional to the amount of the power they have, while smaller Pokemon can be better than a bigger version of itself.
>Tai and Red are inspired by manga characters
>Red inspired by manga
>>24832697
Where the fuck do you see a 3ft Greymon?
The DS games?
>>24832704
Well did you expect them to not have it after having made an episode about it?
>Some surprises
>Not expecting what it really means
Charizard wins
Garurumon solos both
>not going to expect what will happen
Post yfw charizards gets ripped apart after Tai kills red
Remember the secret rule of Death BattleThe kid never dies
>>24832717
There is a Greymon the size of its tamer in the manga.
>>24832742
this is cool. What's it from?
>>24832752
You're not serious are you?
Why are they stalling so much? It's 3AM in europe. Come the fuck on
>mentioning 02
Pack it up, boys, Charizard won.
>>24832752
First part of Digimon The Movie/The first Digimon film.
>>24832752
Digimon: The Movie
AKA Angela Anaconda: The Movie
>>24832753
Why wouldn't i? Am I obligated to know every single season and movie of the show?
I take it's from a movie due to the animation quality.
>>24832756
>>24832757
so the very first? ok thanks
>Smokey vs McGruff is still being made
Nice
>>24832762
Yes, there is literally only one thing that could possibly have that animation, and it's the first Digimon Movie.
It's finally starting
It begins
HAPPENING
>>24832772
kinda reminds me of NGE and Akira. Man I miss the 90s animes.
It's motherfucking happening.
>charizardite X
Charizard loses. Wargreymon the dragon slayer.
I hope they limit Charizard to 4 or 5 moves
>>24832794
pretty much sealed now
>>24832570
Well son of a bitch, guys, the episode has begun!Let's all remember we're getting jewed as we speak.
>footage of Ash
lol i bet they're going to kill Red
Tfw the pokemon tri deathbattle had charizards die to blastoise.
>Mewtwo
>Strongest Psychic
Mewtwo
>Most Powerful Psychic Pokemon
Show me your Brave Heart.
>BRAVEHEART
Sweet Nectar
>>24832794
Here comes the chrome digizoid dragonbusters!
>>24832812
Deoxysfags BTFO
God I love agumon
>>24832794
But Ash is gonna have Charizard Y.
>>24832812
>>24832815
they're not wrong
I want the elvis monkey pokemon, desu.
There is Tais Greymon true size
>American version
DRAGON POKEMON BTFO
wargreymon has won, pokemon loosed.
>Digizoid
Ah shit, nigga, we getting into it.
>DRAMON KILLERS
AH SHIT, NIGGA, WE GETTING INTO ITInb4 Seismic Toss
Skull greymon a best!
>>24832841
So they basically say it's Ash's Charizard, then make it go into X just so they can say Dramon Killers beat it?
Charizard wins, no matter what these autists say. Fuck that shit. Ash's Charizard is Y!1!1!!1!!!!!
>Skullgreymon confirmed
Charizard to win in the most bs way imaginable
MY FEELS
>A hermit vs a diplomat
Also I'm surprised by the lack of math
this gon be some bullshit
but whatever
Charizard will win due to Earthquake
Dig or Bulldoze
NO I DON"T WANNA MAKE A VIDEOGAME, FUCK OFF AND GET ON WITH THE FITE
>>24832859
Were they listed in the analysis bio?
>Gmod
Gmod
>Gmod
Gmod
>Gmod
Gmod
Also VAs. The fuck am I watching?
They fucked up already. Red learned not to steal other people's Pokemon early on
Tai did nothing wrong
Not Agumon getting rekt
THIS ANIMATION IS GIVING ME CANCER
He used more than 5 fire blasts
>Flamethrower
>and Fire Blast
>>24832883
PP Max fagget
>More than 4 moves
Fire Blast
Mega Punch
Rock Smash ( what the fuck(
Flare Blitz
Dragon Claw
Swift
Five fucking moves
Pokemon are limited to 4
Fucking backwards
OH MY GOD
Rip
BTFO
T
F
O
THAT WAS FUCKING BRUTAL
>YFW Tai attacked Red
JESUS CHRIST
this is literal cancer
So, now I want to get into Digimon. Can someone recommend me games?
Jesus that was more than I've bargained for. They should put a age rating for this (an age for crushing childhoods)
Shoulda went with Ash's Pikachu.
My fucking sides.
Slay digimon!!!
Even with the 6+ moves for a Pokemon
His broken legs OMG my sides
>Red got beat up by Tai
>Then got his legs broken
>Then got literally roasted
Jesus.
C'mon guys, most of us knew from the very beginning that Wargreymon has won. Like, literally a month in advance.
Pokemon took a LOT of L's this year
Yokai Watch
No Pkmm Z
Now Digimon
>tfw fucking pokenerds will be upset at this
>>24832925
Wait were not supposed to fight
>>24832907
Closest to Pokemon would be Digimon Dawn and Dusk, the only recent games that actually made it to the west.
The games aren't perfect, but they're fun for getting into Digimon, and are simple to play. Other than that:
Digimon World
World 2
World 3
Digimon Digital Card Battle
Rumble Arena and Rumble Arena 2
Digimon World Re:Digitize
and the upcoming Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth.
>>24832905
At least he knows how to throw a punch
This was tooo much
Rip Red
Rip Charizard
Should've carried a Porygon Z
I will have nightmares over that poor clueless Charizard having such an horribly death.
Man why didn't they pick a strongest Pokémon if they were doing such a massive rape fight? Mewtwo would've been more fair.
>Red cheats by using a Charizard with swift
>still loses
>>24832907
Digimon Re:Digitize for PSP fan translated.
So. Good.
>>24832940
We all know the true victim
>even they are talking about how completely utterly stupidly unfair it was on Charizard
Then why was this even a thing then, I could understand if they had limited to MetalGreymon, but Wargreymon is too OP for most if not all Pokemon.
>>24832947
:_:7
>>24832933
Pokenerd here idk why anyone would have expected charizard to win.
Digimon are fucking weapons of mass destruction disguised as cute friendly beings.
>>24832942
Don't forget about too much PP and moves
Alright, /vp/, time to rate the match.
>What you expected
>Your enjoyment of the battle
>How fair you thought the outcome
>>24832950
People demanded it to happen as much of a curb stomp it may be
>They are fictional characters who care how they feel
>>24832794
Called it. Good job.
What trainer just keeps swift on Charizard and Swift
He had 6+ moves he had the shittiest ones
But my Agumon got them punches though
>>24832950
>screwattack
>death battle shit
>Not being insanely autistic shit made out of a combination of cannon and headcannon nonsense
How are you at all surprised they came up with this dumb idea.
>>24832959
>Digimon wins
>A little cringy, but that's Screw Attack for you
>Pretty fair. But should have went with Ash's Pikachu
>bed supporting Wargreymon
>Knew he would win
>Still be salty because they made it seem like he needed to cheap shot to win
Dammit, I shouldn't feel so mad about being right.
Wargreymon should've curbstomped Mega Charizard strightway.The fuck was that Tai having to get into the battle shit?
>>24832959
>I expected lots of math and bullshit
>I enjoyed the battle I liked the Digi Evolution sequences and the climax where it got personal
>It was obvious
>>24832938
>Most of them are on PlayStation 1,2, and Portable.
Man, I just busted my wallet a while ago. Still, I'll check out Dusk.
It should be better than that yokai shit I bought.
>>24832959
Stayed woke up till 4am for this shit
pic related is my rating.
>>24832950
How was it unfair? Charizard had more than 4 damn moves. If anything its unfair for Agumon
>>24832973
*BEEN supporting
I meant
>>24832693
>trying to kill a dead cat.
>>24832940
>Should've carried a Porygon Z
What would be the point of that battle?
Porygon is man-made. It's not a counterpart to Charizard, it's a counterpart to Gizmon, who can casually one-shot fully evolved digimon.
>Masaru Daimon didn't deck Red in the face.
>>24832959
Expected Digimon to win.
Didn't expect those fucking deaths.
Meh animation. Could have been better.Tai cheated because he punched Red. That's what Daimon does.
>>24832982
*counterpart to Greymon, derp.
>>24832959
Expected Charizard to win, just due to popularity.
Battle was enjoyable, sort of cringe, but cringy in a fun way. Actually got hyped for a bit, and was surprised at Tai punching Red.
Outcome was fair, and honestly, was obvious. Love both franchises, but come fucking on.
>Mentioning Marcus, the Digimon Puncher
Acceptable, all around.
>>24832959
How do you feel about the one minute melee renamon vs lucario. Basically the thing deathbattle has made.
>>24832959
The fight was dumb. The evolving thing is dumb. Should've stuck with Charizard VS. Greymon specifically rather than evolving nonsense.
>>24832959
>Digimon winning
>It was ok
>It's pretty much what I expected.
Popular requests are the worst because you would have to be retarded if you thought this was a fair fight.
What about ShineGreymon vs. Reshiram?
>>24833016
ShineGreymon.
>>24832986
>Masaru Daimon comes out of no where to punch Red
>Hareta jumps in to catch Masaru's fist.
Digimon vs Pokemon 2: Masaru vs Hareta.
I figured if they were allowing WarGreymon it was gonna be over.
Bringing in Chrome Digizoid and Dramon Killers, it was totally not going to be in Charizard's favor at all
>>24833016
White Kyurem would win.
>Reds death.
No sympathy.
He killed Agumon's Marshmallow for no reason.
>>24832973
I think that scenario was made to just show that Tai WOULD get involved in the fight, and comedy. The fight animations are technically eye candy. They decide their winner with feats.
>mfw Butterfly at the end
>>24833021
Fuck, don't hype me.The outcome would be the same though, probably even worse for pokemon.
>>24833039
Yeah, Masaru would probably win just because of size difference.
/r/ing a gif of Tai beating up Red
>>24833039
It is, Masaru's Digi-Soul punches can kill weak Mega digimon.
He managed to kill 4 with one punch.
>>24833059
>that crappy animation
>worth making gifs or webms from
>youtube commets are litterally "Oh yeah, mewtwo or arceus could kill Wargreymon"
bitches don't know about digimon lore.
With Digimon being on the rise in popularity again, it's time you guys show your support.
Remember to buy one of these on your way out of the thread. Only $90-$100 depending on if you buy it with or without Tai's summer camp tag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG6JoEBRVjk
>>24833104
Those retards were what made this match possible to begin with.
>>24833106
Here's a good site an anon linked me a couple days ago.
http://hobbyjapan.ocnk.net/product/2508
http://hobbyjapan.ocnk.net/product/2503
>>24833111
witnessed
>>24833082
I know. The fucker is the best Digimon Tamer the whole series has.
>>24833104
And how the power of some Digimon levels are fucked? I mean damn I love Digimon almost as much as i do Pokemon but the stuff some Digimon can do is nuts. If asked what Digimon is the strongest I don't think there's a definitive answer because dozens of Digimon can do world ending attacks.
Does anyone know the song that starts when Agumon warp digivolves into Wargreymon?
>>24833126
Well the biggest digimon, Shakamon is probably the most definsive; as she can literally wipe out any malice in her opponent. She can also hold any digimon in the palm of her hand.
>>24833111
>ZeedMillenniummon vs. Every Single Pokemon
who wins?
>>24833135
Zeed. He could just kill Dialga/Palkia just by sheer force then zap the rest away to toy with.
>>24833129
Just look up digimon evolution song on google or youtube and you'll find it :^)
>>24833135
Unless there an infinite number of Poké dimensions with an infinite number of Arceuses
yeah, Zed wins
>>24833135
Zeed, he literally can't be killed
>>24833104
>Shows Charizard beating Mewtwo
>Watch Charizard get wreck by WarGreymon
>still cites Mewtwo as better than WarGreymon
Okay I guess
Look at him /vp/
So clueless and innocent
>>24833138
>Zeed. He could just kill Dialga/Palkia just by sheer force
Just going to point out that killing those two would result in space and time collapsing in on itself.
>>24833139
No, in this video we're talking about they use an actual song. Reminds me of don't lose your way.
Still hoping somewhat can recognize it.
>>24833157
Zeed's meer existence already puts the multi-verse in danger.
He is literally a mindless beast; with no desire other than nothingness.
>>24833161
This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pql3uCu29vY
>>24833104
>I hate Digimon now
>Tai is such a cheap shot
>Tai is a fucking jerk
>You guys ruined my childhood :(
>Why did it have to end with a death?
>>24833163
Not true he lusted for Ryo and stalked him for three games and one anime cameo
fucking bullshit
first of, Pokémon stadium's pokedex said that charizard would be able to melt a 100 ton glazier quickly. that would require more energy than the sun uses in 10 years, that btw is made of plasma. I don't care what metal it is, that amount of heat will destroy the atomic structure of any metal.
plus if it is a metal that would require it to be heat conducting and would cook everything on the inside of the armor. and if then it would kill all the cells inside wargreymon.
p.s. all of that is before the mega evolution witch boost the special attack even further.
I can't believe they forgot about researching the pokedex. that's the main database for Pokémon cannon facts.
>>24833166
No, the song starts when Agumon turns into Wargreymon. If you listen closely it has vocals but I can't understand what they're saying.
https://youtu.be/Xcz2vHLqtNw?t=15m16s
>>24833187
>He doesn't know about Chrome Digizoid
>>24833193
Its from Xenoblade Chronicle X, Sawano is still a hack
>>24833187
And Greymon's fire can literally burn everything into ash
what's your point?
>>24833187
>>24833201
In the long run, do you really care? The makers of these videos are just autists and these videos are just a bunch of dumb fanboy shit.
>>24833187
>Cells
Hes a damn Digimon its data
>>24833198
Found it, thanks man
>>24833208
>these videos are just a bunch of dumb fanboy shit.
that's what makes them great.
>>24833194
idk what that is, if they didnt use all the pokemon info im not going to search for digishit info
>>24833201
charizard should had won after the first attack, thats my point
>>24833187
>crying over digimon bullshit winning against pokemon bullshitNow I wonder if they would have used the Dex as a whole, since "you lose your soul" if you look at the hole on the back of Shedinja.
>>24833228
do digimon have souls?
>>24833231
I'm sure its literally just data
>>24833231
If we take Frontier as canon, they kinda have spirits, I guess.
>>24833231
Yes and no
>>24833231
in a cosmic sort of way, yes.
yes!!! they literally kill red!!!!
>>24833254
/r/'ing an edit of this involving the deathbattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO336pQzvwg
Thoughts on Charizard itself?
>>24833262
>literally
always using the buzzword I see
>>24833157
Given that Arceus can just make more, I don't' think they're existence is that important so much as their ability to influence time and space that makes them strongon a pokemon level.
>>24833273
Where does Arceus land on Digimon power level? He could barely handle a meteor...don't think he could fight Tactimon who is a star buster.
>>24833288
Probably ultimate/perfect tier. He just has great creation powers, but he's never been shown to be particularly strong in his appearances.
>>24833163
Are we talking about this Zeed?
I mean, yeah maybe, but he's a human. I though humans are forbidden to kill pokemon.
>>24833187
Retarded asshurt fanboy detected.
>>24833386
For this >>24833226 as well.
>>24833135
Zeed.
Nothing can fucking stop it.
>>24832959
I dreaded Death Battle selling out and asspulling a win for Charizard, which would have stained his image forever. Thankfully, WarGreymon did not disappoint.
Pretty good.
Overkill. At least they actually made Red and Charizard dying together poignant. It was stupid how Tai had to attack Red though, because now a bunch of asshurt retards are saying he cheated on top of other bitching.
>>24832756
I want to rape hawkmon
Make the team you think could take down a metalwargreymon.
I also want it to be at least 5 or 3 for style.
Can't use ubers.
>>24833462
Spirtomb.
Sabeleye.
Weavile.
Ditto
Dugtrio.
Machamp
>>24833104
They're not wrong. Wargreymon > 90% of Pokemon, but a lot of the higher tier legendaries still outdo him. He doesn't have any real defense against mindrape, and Arceus is universal in it's capacities.
>>24833288
Depends. Anime and manga Arceus are horribly, horribly nerfed, those Arceuses (Arcei?) would only be Perfect at best. Game/lorewise, easily Ultimate. Even in Digimon, universal fuckery is pretty strong.
I always felt like it was a mistake to introduce basically God in your series and have him job every other game.
>>24833487
while true, I was more thinking along the lines of
"Uh...how about your digimon (whom isn't even the strongest digimon) to fight against a god"
like, really?
>>24833484
I'm literally the only one who wants mega machamp
>>24833462
>metalwargreymon
>>24833513
Oh yeah, gotcha. What can you do though
>>24833518
Idklol
>>24833530
Oh shit, we got high res of this? Nice.
>>24833411
>he cheated
Fuck dem faggots. It's a Death Battle not a Pokemon Battle.
>>24833487
WarGreymon isn't even close to the top-tier of powerful Digimon
>>24833562
I think he's saying that even though Wargreymon isn't even close to the strongest Digimon, he's still stronger than basically everything that's not Legendary in Pokemon
>>24833487
>>24833511
People make up so much shit on what Arceus can do. Literally all he's been shown to do in the games is make powerful entities and have a high bst. In the anime he's total shit.
Having the title god doesn't mean you're suddenly the strongest ever.
>>24833187
Plasma? Charizard has no plasma anything. And data isn't made of cells. Charizard still #rekt
>>24833518
Porygon, Porygon2 and PorygonZ roflstomp the digimon universe.
>>24833577
Think about this he could create a black hole in your brain causing a painful dead. Being the creator pretty much makes you the most powerful being because you decide what happens.
>>24833135
Porygon roflstomps.
>>24833562
You forgot one at Bullshit Hax Tier.
>>24833646
>Think about this he could create a black hole in your brain causing a painful dead.
And when has Arceus shown the ability to do that? Or a better question, why hasn't he ever done it or something similar before with the dangers it has faced in canon?
>Being the creator pretty much makes you the most powerful being because you decide what happens.
Not quite what being a creator means. You can create everything without being omnipotent or have the ability to force things into being a certain way.
>>24833642
>>24833661
This is just stupidity.
>>24832895
You listed six moves bruh
>>24833668
Shoutmon can just fuck off.
>>24832938
world 2 and re digitilize are garbage, don't even bother
>>24833691
>A literal virus can't destroy digital entities
Kek, stay mad, faggot.
Besides they have very good feats dex-wise, information transfer speed, capable of surviving in space and poryZ is interdimensional.
Funny thing is that it literally was an asspull that greymon won. Why? Because two reasons, the first being that megazard X is x4 resistant to fire attacks, and the second being that greymon stabbed charizard through the body, when charizard should have already have done that several times throughout the fight jsut as Agumon shouldve gashed up charizard to begin with. The whole things is biased, if it were an actualy fight to the death and both tai and red knew it, red would've won because charizard is both faster and doesnt require charge up to use his ultimate attack. Megazard uses blast burn right off the bat, kills Tai, red wins.
Even if we assume that both of them started out the fight at max capabilities, charizard would win because he has no charge time for his attacks, and can attack at any range. Wargreymon needs to cover the distance between the two OR charge up his spirit bomb to do anything. Straight up fist fight? Wargreymon because stabs, Overall fight? Megazard.
>>24833706
Some of those digital entities are viruses themselves or even vaccines
>>24833707
1. Charizard's range attacks will do absolutely no damage
2. Terra force has a 1 second charge time
3. Great tornado would instagib Charizard
4. A single slash from Dramon Killers would kill Charizard
git gud
>>24833706
Digimon are outright classed as either Data, Vaccine, or Virus.
Megidramon is a virus type entirely capable of wiping out the entire digiverse simply by existing. And even it has nothing on Zeedmelleniumon.
Polygon isn't shit.
>>24833721
>1. Charizard's range attacks will do absolutely no damage
Tai sint fireproof.
>2. Terra force has a 1 second charge time
Blast Burn has none.
>3. Great tornado would instagib Charizard
Has to cover distance.
>4. A single slash from Dramon Killers would kill Charizard
Has to close distance.
>git gud
No, sir, you git gud.
>>24833681
>Not quite what being a creator means. You can create everything without being omnipotent or have the ability to force things into being a certain way.
Sure but in the case of this guy he created time and space its not too far fetch to say he could have those abilities. Has for why we never saw him do these things I guess it would make him too OP but he did create a new legendary in HGSS so that could give a idea of what he should be capable of.
>>24833706
Digimon has been there done that plenty of times over, silly. Virus is a Digimon "type".
>>24833707
You know Wargreymon's nuke is made from the Earth's magical energy not fire right? The ball itself doesn't really take that long to charge. Literally just a stretch motion and you throw it.
Also defensively Wargreymon has the advantage since he doesn't really get hurt by Megazard because digizoid and his shield.
Also how is Megazard faster? If you cite the animation, the animation was just made to look cool before announcing the results. The fact the fight didn't just end with wargreymon stabbing Charizard proves that. Additionally Iin canon speed is hard to gauge because animators like to do super fast things to look cool, but to say Megazard is faster without any evidence is a pretty shoddy claim.
How would megazard hit Tai if Wargreymon's there to cover for him?
>>24833697
It happened, it can't unhappen no matter how hard you want it to. There exists a being made up of ALL Digimon and plothax, and it's the strongest.
>>24833727
But can they move at lightspeed? Otherwise, porygon rushes them :^)
>>24832959
I expected Greymon to win without much trouble. Although pic related is something that slightly triggered me and made me think they were going to pull some type advantage bullshit to let Charizard win.
Not bad overall, I had forgotten how brutal Wargreymon was.Red got fucking rekt
Pretty fair I guess. I little bullshit that Charizard used more than 4 moves (but whatever). Plus, wild pokemon aren't mindless animals. Sure, they don't think on terms of humans but I'd really doubt that Charizard would go loopy as soon as Red got decked.
>>24833744
You had to go through a whole ritual to make that happen though. Shows how limited Arceus really is.
>>24831714
Charizard via bullshit Greymon/Metalgreymon/Wargreymon timeout AND "Metalgreymon gaining the steel type"
>>24832139
Doesn't matter, I'm not the one shutting down in January :)
surprised that there is only 2 ass mad anons on the pokemon board mad that Digimon won.
>>24833707
>the first being that megazard X is x4 resistant to fire attacks
Wargreymon can be completely resistant to fire attacks.
>and the second being that greymon stabbed charizard through the body, when charizard should have already have done that several times throughout the fight jsut as Agumon shouldve gashed up charizard to begin with.
Attacks weren't strong enough.
>The whole things is biased
Then Charizard would have won.
>if it were an actualy fight to the death and both tai and red knew it, red would've won because charizard is both faster and doesnt require charge up to use his ultimate attack.
But Charizard isn't faster, Red would have still attempted to avoid death being involved, and Wargreymon has been seen plenty of times not needing to charge up his ultimate attack, in your words.
>Megazard uses blast burn right off the bat, kills Tai, red wins.
No, it Megazard wasn't even there off the bat. It would've been Agumon warp-digivolving the second his marshmellow burned and the result would've been the same.
I'm a huge Pokemon fan, but stay mad.
>>24833742
>Tai sint fireproof.
Ok? I meant Wargraymon, nothing Charizard can do will cause damage and he's arguably the same fucking speed.
>>24833757
Yeah Digimons are classified in three categories plus whatever element they are in. Data beats Vaccine, Vaccine beats Virus, and Virus beats Data
>>24833751
Fucking Electrode runs faster than Polygon.
>>24833751
>But can they move at lightspeed?
Yes.
>>24833759
Maybe maybe not unless we get more info on him in later pokemon games we might never really know what his stance is.
>>24833751
Some can go FTL.
>>24833784
We can base opinions what we see from his feats, which I don't find to be particularly grand or hint at greater potential.
>>24833748
>You know Wargreymon's nuke is made from the Earth's magical energy not fire right? The ball itself doesn't really take that long to charge. Literally just a stretch motion and you throw it.
Fair enough, still has charge time though.
>Also defensively Wargreymon has the advantage since he doesn't really get hurt by Megazard because digizoid and his shield.
Metal that gets hot burns what it touches, plus the armor only covers so much, and the shield isnt all encompassing.
>Speed
I base this on how long it takes to deal damage, and because charizard can attack without charge time, he's faster.
>How would megazard hit Tai if Wargreymon's there to cover for him?
Extrmeely hard because greymons sheild isnt all encompassing, he can block from any direction he wants, but only one direction at a time. Firespin would be game set and match in this case, even though all it would take is walking through it to get out, but going by game rules, if youre in firespin you cant get out unless you have specific moves or abilities.
Like I said, close combat greymon wins, ranged combat charizard wins.
alright autistic fanboys
every pokemon and digimon vs this guy, who would win?
>>24833772
>Ok? I meant Wargraymon, nothing Charizard can do will cause damage and he's arguably the same fucking speed.
You missed the point, greymon will basically be useless if Tai is dead.
>>24833796
To be honest even if he's suppose to beat everyone in one punch from what I've seen he not really that impressive.
>>24833796
Saitama.
A better matchup would be Saitama vs Bugs Bunny, and even then Saitama because Bugs has died before.
>>24833791
>Fair enough, still has charge time though.
Did you even watch the battle? Or the show?
>Metal that gets hot burns what it touches, plus the armor only covers so much, and the shield isnt all encompassing.
Data isn't skin, they weren't in the Digital World.
>I base this on how long it takes to deal damage, and because charizard can attack without charge time, he's faster.
So can Wargreymon. You don't know what you're talking about.
>Extrmeely hard because greymons sheild isnt all encompassing, he can block from any direction he wants, but only one direction at a time.
He doesn't need to only use the shield to cover Tai, he can use his body and handle the heat of Megazard's attack.
Charizard ain't got shit.
>>24833802
Digimon isn't pokemon m8.
Wargeymon literally has 1 move that he charges, which is 1 fucking second, everything else is instant.
He can fly around swinging his arms the whole fight and Charizard wouldn't be able to do shit.
>>24833796
He sound overrated.
>>24833796
Someone could probably teleport him away. Only way to beat saitama really.
>>24833796
Digimon
>>24833806
More like Saitama vs Gladstone Gander
>>24833791
>Metal that gets hot burns what it touches, plus the armor only covers so much, and the shield isnt all encompassing.
You think Wargreymon gives a shit about heat when he can survive the force of a nuke?
Charizard is weak against stealth rocks. What makes anyone thinks he would stand up against a Mega Digimon
>>24833807
>Did you even watch the battle? Or the show?
Yep, he raised his arms, waited awhile, then throw the spirit bomb. Charge time.
>Data isn't skin, they weren't in the Digital World.
So then he still gets massive burns for prolonged exposure to fire.
>So can Wargreymon. You don't know what you're talking about.
Irrelevant because you wanted my terms of speed and I gave them to you, fanwank all you want.
>He doesn't need to only use the shield to cover Tai, he can use his body and handle the heat of Megazard's attack.
His body doesnt have an all protective aura to protect Tai from heat.
>>24833810
>Digimon isn't pokemon m8.
And pokemon isnt digimon, whats your point? We're going off what was demo'd in the battle, if you want ot include outside help, charizard would still beat greymon with swagger, protect, fly, etc.
>>24833827
Doesn't really matter, blisteringly hot metal still burns.
>>24833707
>>24833742
>kill Tai
Well the fight wouldn't be Mega Charizard X vs. WarGreymon if that happened, now would it?
I thought the point of such a hypothetical exercise was to find out who's stronger, and you can't do that if WarGreymon isn't there.
Besides, there's at least one permanently evolved WarGreymon in X-Evolution, a setting with no human characters at all, so dependence on artificial evolution is not a weakness inherent to all WarGreymon.
And most importantly, that would be blatantly out of character for Red, who trains monsters purely as a sport where no one ever dies. The thought would not occur to him because Tai isn't evil.
I will admit however that WarGreymon killing Red was also out of character.
>>24832938
>>24832945
dont hear this autist go and play the best digimon game out there digimon masters online
>>24833791
>Fair enough, still has charge time though.
Charge time is however long it takes Wargreymon to open his hands and throw it, which is roughly the same amount of time it'd take Charizard to slam his fist down for blastburn.
>Metal that gets hot burns what it touches, plus the armor only covers so much, and the shield isnt all encompassing.
Wargreymon has tanked more than his fair share of punishment many a time from digimon that could level cities, Charizard's shitty flamethrower won't so much as scratch his skin let alone a shield of chrome digizoid.
>I base this on how long it takes to deal damage, and because charizard can attack without charge time, he's faster.
No he isn't, Wargreymon moves fast as fuck and as mentioned previously doesn't have a 'charge time.' He's likely multiple times faster than charizard and is at the absolute worst equal in speed.
>Like I said, close combat greymon wins, ranged combat charizard wins.
Wrong again, wargreymon wins both. Most if not all of charizards attacks come from a single direction while Wargreymon's ranged attack is a massive spirit bomb of fuck you that Charizard can't block. Even if he could survive it, as you said before, Red ain't fireproof.
Charizard can't kill wargreymon, that's a fact. At best he could maybe possibly slightly somehow kill Tai if he tried something stupid, in which case Wargreymon would just kill Charizard and Red immediatly afterwards. Pokemon is a fun game, but it can't win this fight.
>>24833833
The point was Tai dying would not stop Wargraymon from attacking, only Pokemon need to follow orders.
If Tai was killed before he digivolved then sure.
>>24833840
Even in season 6, Some digimon commanders were suprised when Shoutmon digivolved, saying it takes a long time to achive it.
So it is possible without a human tamer, but very difficult. On the plus side, it's permanent though, unlike with a human induced digivolution that's temporary.
>>24833104
man play pokemon conquest arceus has omnipotence as hability, he is a god not an avatar for a 10yrold bitch
>>24833833
>Yep, he raised his arms, waited awhile, then throw the spirit bomb. Charge time.
Just rewatched it as I'm typing this, Blast Burn literally took longer to hit than Wargreymon's spirit bomb.
>So then he still gets massive burns for prolonged exposure to fire.
Wargreymon is supposed to be immune to fire.
>Irrelevant because you wanted my terms of speed and I gave them to you, fanwank all you want.
Your terms of speed is inaccurate and easy to disprove.
>His body doesnt have an all protective aura to protect Tai from heat.
He doesn't need it.
>>24833833
You are only arguing two points, that Charizard is faster and that fire burns Wargreymon. Both are wrong.
>>24833840
>Well the fight wouldn't be Mega Charizard X vs. WarGreymon if that happened, now would it?
Death battle is death battle.
>I thought the point of such a hypothetical exercise was to find out who's stronger, and you can't do that if WarGreymon isn't there.
Nope, its to see who would die and who would live.
>Besides, there's at least one permanently evolved WarGreymon in X-Evolution, a setting with no human characters at all, so dependence on artificial evolution is not a weakness inherent to all WarGreymon.
Never said anything about this.
>And most importantly, that would be blatantly out of character for Red, who trains monsters purely as a sport where no one ever dies. The thought would not occur to him because Tai isn't evil.
Red also knows that pokemon belonging to other trainers cant be caught, and yet he throws a pokeball at greymon, after the first one failed. People do stupid things, like letting their best friend steal their girl, for forcing their partner to become stronger and corrupting them.
>I will admit however that WarGreymon killing Red was also out of character.
It's all out of character, but thats not the point, because if it were in character red and Tai would have a discussion about whats happening, and then chat about their monsters.
>>24833853
Using spinoffs to hype Arceus' power is a bad idea considering that it got stoned by dark matter.
>>24833845
>>24833855
>all this lack of reasoning
Well, it was fun for awhile, seeing things from one point of view exclusively doesn't make for very good debate. This has very much turned into "Fanwank: Digimon Edition". Oh well, it was fun while it lasted, not much fun arguing with people that are too blinded by bias to look at things from other points of view.
>>24833850
The trauma of losing their partner would go one of two ways, pure heartbreak causing a forced de-digivolve, or a rage induced digivolve to a higher point.
>>24833853
I wouldn't mind having Arceus as my bitch.
>>24833863
If he's literally omnipotent, I suppose he was only pretending to be turned to stone.
He could've turned Dark Matter into a poffin and eaten it, but he chose not to because mysterious ways.
>>24833892
Tell me whats stopping Wargreymon from chasing Charizard around and slashing him to pieces.
>>24833883
but in that spinof he was god literally came from the heavens, its the only canon game encounter for a arceus in any pokemon game not counting PMD
if you have the power to create a fucking universe and 4 dimensions you should have enough power to stomp some digital arses
>>24833905
Rational Thought.
>>24833892
There isn't any lack of reasoning. You don't understand Digimon and you've made that apparent. Your speed theory is busted in the video itself. Now you can't defend your point anymore and giving up. Your attempt to look superior is on par with someone laying in a pool of his own blood and missing all his teeth going "that all you got" to a gang. Either you're just that pathetic or a horrible troll.
>>24833907
Rational thought involves being rational. You are clearly too ignorant on the subject to be rational.
>>24833903
>>24833883
>dark mater
>literally made a dimension to contain it and sended satan there
>>24833911
Rational thought doesn't make you want to kill something you've never seen before over a marshmallow.
>>24833862
>Nope, its to see who would die and who would live.
By that logic, escaping to a parallel universe until your opponent dies of old age would count as a win.
You have to fight the opponent you've been given.
>>24833907
What is that rational thought?
Wargreymon can continuously charge at Charizard, if he stops to attack he willl be cut to pieces.
Let's take your shitty logic that Charizard is somehow able to harm him, there's nothing stopping Wargreymon from moving out of the way and once again, cut him to pieces.
>>24832959
-Cringe, fuck the NA voices and sountracks
-The best part was during the Greymon phase (dat Rock Smash)
-As soon as they mentioned the Dramon Killers Charizard was already dead.
Also loved it when Tai punched Red but then they drove it to the ground.
6/10, needs better music and script but they got the result right instead of pandering to the biggest fanbase.
>>24833915
Who says the human definition of rational is the same as a dinosaur made of internet?
>>24833912
So why didn't he do that in PSMD?
>>24833923
who knows but thats what arceus did when he created the universe, maybe the lore is not that strong in PMD
>>24833918
Not really, the whole point of of a death battle is to be the one that comes out alive, the means by which you use to achieve that don't matter.
>>24833919
Rational thought would be "what the hell is going on, where are these people, why did that kid throw a plastic ball at me, what the hell is going on here?"
>>24833922
The Digimon universe does.
Charizard getting shit on all over this threadAnd it's all true#rekt
>>24833833
>Doesn't really matter, blisteringly hot metal still burns.
Not if you're a monster made for fighting
>>24833930
A plastic ball was never thrown at Wargreymon, now how about the rest of my post.
>>24833915
When that person does everything they can to kill you for no reason, I don't know
>>24833562
None of Angemon's lines are on there? Why was T.K's Patamon such bullshit powerful? Just plot reasons?
>>24833931
I love pokemon more than digimon, but there was no way Charizard was going to beat greymon. Both universes are on completely different power levels.
>>24833930
>The Digimon universe does.
No, it doesn't. Digimon learn through there surroundings and most of the Digital World is a horrible place to live.
>Rational thought would be "what the hell is going on, where are these people, why did that kid throw a plastic ball at me, what the hell is going on here?"
Dude quit being fucking retarded. That has nothing to do with >>24833905 and you're just trying to go more off course to make any slight attempt at you feeling like you might be kinda right.You aren't.
>>24833942
Plot Reasons.
Seraphimon is known as a total jobber in all his appearances.
>>24833943
I love Pokemon more than Digimon, too. But fuck Charizard and fuck anyone retarded enough to think Charizard would stand a chance against any Digimon capable of Digivolving.
>>24833933
They were thrown at agumon and greymon, both of which are the same being as wargreymon. For the rest of what you blabbered on about, I already said it twice now, in CQC, greymon wins.
>>24833940
>soils a marshmallow
>doesnt immediatly attack
>only retaliates at first
Come on now.
>>24833946
>No, it doesn't. Digimon learn through there surroundings and most of the Digital World is a horrible place to live.
>learn through there surroundings
Spend X amount of time with strange thing you met one day and grow to love like family, and you'll learn what being rational is all about.
>Dude quit being fucking retarded. That has nothing to do with >>24833905 and you're just trying to go more off course to make any slight attempt at you feeling like you might be kinda right. You aren't.
Except it does.
Guys, in the end Red was left asash
>>24833951
No one is going to randomly stop fighting because some faggot is throwing shit at him.
As for the second part, Wargreymon would also win long range but even if he didn't there's no way for Charizard to stay out of CQC range unless Wargreymon literally stood there throwing nukes and somehow missing.
>>24833951
>Spend X amount of time with strange thing you met one day and grow to love like family, and you'll learn what being rational is all about.
That's not true either, you should go outside and pay attention to strangers, especially strangers with children.
>Except it does.
Except it doesn't. A fucking marshmellow and whether or not someone kills someone over said marshmellow is not a response to "whats stopping Wargreymon from chasing Charizard around and slashing him to pieces".
>but the video
Take away the video, ignore the fucking video, you clearly don't agree with it so don't use it as an attempt to prove your point because all it's doing is proving you more wrong. Without the video, using only your peanut, explain how Wargreymon wouldn't chase Charizard around and slash him into pieces in a death battle. Explain how he wouldn't be capable of doing so. YOU CAN'T. That's the point, you don't know what you're talking about Digimon related, you don't know what you're talking about in the video you watched with your own two(?) eyes, there isn't an answer. You have a better chance explaining how a Goomba could beat Sonic.
>>24833968
You're clearly to agitated to do any sort of coherent debate, you can say what you like but i've never once done any sort of name calling. Im out, this ain't fun anymore, you killed it, congratulations on winning an internet fight with nothing but "nuh-uh" and "youre stupid".
>>24833951
Hell they even let Megazard X live longer than he should have.
The very moment Wargreymon used Great Tornado against Flare Blitz Charizard should've exploded.
>>24833975
>I can't think of a good reply so I'm going to play the 'I'm better than you don't think you really won card'
>>24833975
>You're clearly to agitated to do any sort of coherent debate
Says the guy ignoring the facts. In the video, Charizard isn't attacking Wargreymon as fast as Wargreymon is attacking Charizard, but you claim otherwise, proof is right in front of us you're wrong. Wargreymon is immune to fire, you claim he should be getting affected by it, you're wrong. My point isn't "nuh-uh" and "you're stupid" it's that the proof you are wrong is right in front of your face and you're too ignorant to just admit Digimon are OP compared to Pokemon and it wasn't even a contest in the first placewhich was also stated by the guys who made the fucking video
>Those comments who think Arceus would stomp Digimon
>>24833975
The proof is right in front of you. Hell they even said it wasn't a fair contest. You're wrong, there's no way around it. No one resorted to no ways and nuh uhs, they spoke the truth that you really don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Digimon.
>Pokemon Vs Digimon
>People mad that digimon won even though they throw around nukes like if they were pebbles.
lol
>>24834001
Well there still seems to be no consensus on who wins in Arceus vs Zeed.
>>24834016
It's Zeed.
>>24834016
Arceus can do absolutely nothing to Zeed.
>>24833892
Your tears are delicious.
>>all this lack of reasoning
Fucking hypocrite. You've done all sorts of mental gymnastics against FACTS and then tell people that they are the ones who don't listen to reason?
Also, your "charge time" theory is plain stupid because it mixes game mechanics with real time. Going by real time Charizard also needs time to attack, using game mechanics neither move needs to charge in their respective games.
>>24834024
>>24834027
But what about muh true omnipotence?
>>24834027
>Arceus Unplugs the internet
>Foe's ZEED has been defeated!
>>24833942
Almost all of their enemies are devil type and virus type Digimon, so Patamon and his line was basically super effective against all of their big foes.
>>24834037
Digiverse isn't internet. It's influenced by it though.
>>24834040
I thought the trinity typing in Digimon was almost completely negligible?
>>24833975
Shittin' on 'em
lil bitch
I'm surprised no one has cleared up that the Digiworld isn't in the Internet but a -physical- manifestation of it with physics that are ruled by electronic data.
>>24834044
Most of the times, but sometimes it's a thing that's put into consideration along with the races and elements, like in Digimon World 2. I think it even came up in the show once.
Data > Vaccine > Virus > Data
>>24834064
It's mentioned a lot in Digimon Tamers.
First used to explain how Guilmon (virus) had avantage over the more experienced Renamon (data) who in turn was giving the little Terriermon (vaccine) a hard time. Then Terriermon turned into Gargomon and went nuts on everyone.
>>24834033
Arceus isn't omnipotent, only universal. Zeed is on another level though.
>>24834085
My nigga Terriermon
Sorry guys, didn't want to fool with editing out voice over audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGJFQQjkWw&feature=youtu.be
maybe I'll do it tomorrow.
Something that gets overlooked a lot is that it's implied that the Arceus we see in the game is only one of the 1000 "arms" of the real Arceus (which also explains how there can be more than one).
>>24834037
Zeed Literally exist outside of time and space.
>>24834088
I actually liked most of the voices, they were all pretty spot on. Except for Tai, they werent lying when they said getting someone who can sound like him is difficult.
I also liked some of the dialogue choices like Red's "Who's that pokemon" a call back to the show's segment of the same name and Red acting like Mega Evolution isnt a knock off of Digivolution.
>>24833584
...I know what you are trying to say...but really nigga? You know that fire can produce plasma if hot enough. Which I'm pretty sure Charizard can.
>>24834107
>Red acting like Mega Evolution isnt a knock off of Digivolution
I'm just getting that one.
>>24834107
I found it weird that they didn't just get the guy who voiced him originally.
I'd imagine this kind of thing would be something he'd be willing to do.
>>24834148
>implying digimon as a series isn't a knock off of pokemon to begin with
>>24833515
I do too but I want it with like 10 arms.
>>24834195
>Implying Pokemon as a series isnt a knock off of Tomodachi.
>Implying Simpsons didnt do it first
>>24834195
>2015 almost over
>hasn't checked actual information
Digimon came from Tamagotchi. The first digimon pets were literally just tamagotchi that could fight. If they had copied from Pokémon then why make the Tamagotchi first?
>Death Battle
>More like Death Massacre
amirite?
>>24834195
Pokemon's just a SMT ripoff by the same logic.
ZeedMilleniummon vs (composite) Ditto
>>24835584
ditto has no chance since it doesnt copy the stats and zeedmilleniummon cant die
oh and nice salt in the comments
>>24835902
i meant to say it doesnt copy hp which zeed would have infinite
>>24833892
>>24833907
>this much of an asshurt retarded hypocritical fanboy
Literally fucking kill yourself. You're an insult to Charizard and all of Pokemon.
>>24834009
2cute4me
>>24833562
>no Omegamon X in Killer of God tier
