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Stargazer edition. Old thread >>24805026
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Sky guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
Side topic: Have you remembered to buy some vitamins lately? You want to be nice and healthy, right?
>>24814680
I dunno, they're there to just explore i guess. They could have stuck SOMETHING in the level 1 dungeons, I don't think even Sacred Ruins has anything in it, except maybe some tm's you'd be lucky to escape with
What are the best starters is PSMD?
>>24814836
Grass + Fire usually works out well. I think Riolu and Pikachu both get Agility by levelup, though that's less OP in Super than in past games. I went with Chespin and Cyndaquil and had no major problems getting through the game, even despite several story dungeons full of fire and flying-type Pokemon.
>>24814836
Water and fire types will ensure you get access to ice beam and flamethrower, so those are kinda easy-modo
>>24814836
I used Totodile and Fennekin. Totodile is the best of the starters for close range, and fennekin has a fairly strong distance moveset.
Charmander has some of the strongest moves to start with though
>>24814181
Bringing this back from the leat thread!
>>24814836
Chespin
>>24814740
Am I the only one who noticed that Charmander looks chubbier in Super?
>>24814899
>>24814866
>>24814858
>>24814845
Ill probably go with chespin + fennekin. Thanks family
>>24814966
Charmander is also pretty great. There was a tier list floating around the threads a while back, but I didn't save it.
Just went to Isle of Light and this guy was typed rock. Did this happened to anyone?
After beating Dialga, Palkia and Mega-Rayquaza on my second try with no troublebecause since my last attempt I roided up more and connected with XerneasI got a little too full of myself and tried taking on Groudon. Just a few floors in I got my ass kicked by Volcarona that I couldn't touch in a monster house. I'm going to roid more and go after earlier access legendaries before trying again. Do the legendary birds have an actual battle or do you just talk to them to connect?
>>24815005
Actual battles.
>>24814994
Froakie may be bronze tier but if you aren't to autistic to evolve it gets much better as a Greninja with STAB Night Slash. Even just teaching it Ice Beam makes it much better.
I'm kind of tempted to restart just to have a different player Pokemon. Cyndaquil is cute and all, but I'm mildly tempted to choose Pikachu because its model is so cute. Should I?but I'm still gonna have Riolu as a partner
>>24815001
Camouflage?
>>24815001
My bad.
>>24815030
Meant >>24815022
>>24815005
Actual battles.
Also, do you have Kyogre? Kyogre works wonders in Magma Chamber. Drizzle is great for obvious reasons, and base Kyogre with Tempest Looplet OHKO's everything with Origin Pulse.
>>24815030
Sorry, what?
>>24815074
Camouflage.
It's a move that changes the user's type.
Mothim can learn it naturally.
>throwing vitamins, Sitrus berries, life seeds and joy seeds through Greninja (MC) and Delphox (Partner)
>Joy seed misses Greninja
That's ok. You don't need that level anyway.Damn you.
>>24815048
I did consider trying for Kyogre first but I like Groudon more and I thought it would be a safe bet that Kyogre's dungeon would be filled with water types. With Delphox being one of my best, and only other mon to have been fed vitamins, I thought that would be pretty risky. When I try for them again I'll try Kyogre first.
>>24815010
>>24815048
Thanks. Not having to battle Raikou, Entei and Suicune to connect with them was rather upsetting.
>>24815095
Pro tip: For Kyogre's dungeon, bring a mon with Storm Drain. Water moves will be effectively sealed, and you won't have to deal with Origin Pulse.
Is there an easier way of getting Joy Seeds besides hoping for the best with the Excavation Looplet?
>tfw still trying to get enough gold bars to max the stats on the main 5 pokemon I like using before buying move drinks
its a long road
>>24815135
Nope, but there's another option. You can get Golden Seeds or Golden Bananas, which are better.
>>24814994
can we get some decriptions on why they are where they are?
im justifying another turtwig run btu if hes gold idunno
>>24815178
I wasn't the one who made it, I just saved it to post when needed. Sorry anon.
>>24815178
Chespin has Rollout and Twin Needle.
Fennekin has Psybeam the moment you start the game.
I played the game with Mudkip/Torchic and both barely to never learn any worthwhile moves by leveling up. I beat the game with nearly the same moveset as when I started.
Which starter has the cutest model?
>Wailord used Hydro Pump!
WHAT THE FUCK
>>24815213
Chespin is absolute carry tier with rollout and pin missile from the word go, and his enormous movepool later on when you unlock Hawlucha's move tutor stuff. Shoutouts to bulk up and drain punch.
>>24815232
Also, which movesets are you using for your starter and partner?
>>24815232
Chespin
>>24815243
Chespin has Rollout/Vine Whip/Pin Missile/Powerup Punch. Cyndaquil has Flamethrower/Heat Wave/Double Kick/Rollout
>And...
>The Emera Crush Trap destroyed the Ally Reviver Emera!
>>24815286
>The Emera Crush Trap destroyed the Awakening Emera!
So I can't use Cofagrigus' ominous wind move, but it has no status conditions and it still has PP. What locked me out of the move and how do I fix it?
It's been this way for a few floors.
![388864_358732094211753_160627451_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qsb1xL4.jpg "388864 358732094211753 160627451 n[1]")
>>24815286
>>24815290
>The Emera Crush Trap destroyed the Lucky Charm Emera!
>>24815286
The Emera Swap Trap turned the Lucky Charm Emera into the Piercing Throw Emera!
>there are vitamins in the dungeon
You can get 3 Lucarios and 7 Blazikens in this game. Along with 6 Raichus, there are 5 Venasaurs and Meganiums whereas the rest of the starters are 4.
>want the move variety that comes with being Delphox
>but want to stay qt Braxien
Remember to have fun!
i just finished up the air continent dungeon (still mid story) should i go mist, sand, or grass continent? And what should i do on each?
>>24814994
Shitty offensive moves aside, Turtwig's Curse can be fucking broken.
I limit myself to one use per floor outside bosses though.
Post your favorite PMD music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-8nVAVXOA
So eerie and chill.
>>24815563https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBl3NqVnWbo
>>24815563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIY8aKg4sOw
FUCKING AMBIENCE
I can't put my finger on what's so amazing about it exactly. It's so profoundly... something.
You miss out by not having headphones on while it plays though. Kinda sucks how nothing Nintendo goes very loud anyway, but at least the bass is there.
>>24815576
I'm dying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqTjkwiUNA
>>24815563
How can I choose? Here's the first three that came to mind, anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD2UX63M1mM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHgw1CJGi9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtcp30JUfhY
>>24814994
Where is human?
>>24815295
Ban seed?
Time for another attempt or two!
First reply names my pokemon, within reason, so no Unown
>>24815563
Haven't played Super yet because yuropoor, so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX4b37e3Cqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbvjVLjlYaw
>>24815640
Contrary Malamar.
>>24815646
Alright, lets do it
>>24815651
Make sure you have Super Power and Peck.
>>24815563
Great Canyon was my favorite track in the original so I almost had a heart attack when I heard this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmDwvq_2SEI
>>24815607
>Gentle Slope Cave
My nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjAUYK5xeE
what are the pros and cons of evolving my mc and partner after the epilogue?
>>24815681
Oh man, I forgot about that one, too. Good taste, my dude. >>24815643 also has good taste, Buried Relic was my favorite track out of Rescue Team.
>>24815682
Pros:
>larger moveset
>possible new typing
Cons:
>no increase in stats at all
>loss of sleeping animations
>evos aren't as cute as base formsmy opinion
Is there a way to boost HP permanently besides leveling?
>>24815696
Sitrus Berries and Life Seeds
>>24815703
Where do you get these?
>>24815563
Way too many songs I love, but here's a few I really like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5FWWhAlIRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnohxg2OTho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blge4fEHzoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo7cGpN6IEc
>>24815721
Quest rewards. I assume you're playing Super - I don't know if those things existed in previous titles.
>>24815682
Really no need to evolve at all for some. I personally need to be a Torterra ASAP so I can actually learn my Ground moves.
Also I believe Sinnoh's starter final forms are just unparalleled in coolness. But there are cuter first forms than them.
Gave up on floor 5. I got utterly fucked over by PP Leech Traps, going to try again
>>24815688
>>24815759
hmm....will they still eat at the dinner table animation?
>>24815767
I hear they do, but i don't know for sure
>>24815767
Yes, evolutions still have the eating animation.
>>24815761
>spawned next to a Kricketune that 2shot me
At least ZIS waited a few floors before fucking you
>>24815776
well fuck now im torn between cute charmander and cool charmeleon
>>24815761
I got fucked up on floor 4 by a Bunnelby eating a Joy Seed, evolving into Diggersby, that little shit using Swords Dance, my Super Power missing, and then getting my shit kicked in.
>>24815791
Sky had
>less hunger draining
>more good items
>generally more PP
>attacks hit harder
It just feels like there's no real great strategy that can win for you at least 25% of the time.
>>24815802
Has Sacred Ruins ever been beaten ONCE? The furthest I've gotten is 11 floors in before getting 2HKO'd by generic mobs.
>>24815813
This is why I'm trying out any pokemon people tell me to. Every pokemonsave the genies because i absolutely refuse to use those evergets tested in this place, in a search for the best.
>>24815821
Also something I'm REALLY hating, is there are so many pokemon that have 5+ starting moves when you enter these dungeons. I'm forced to reset many times for the right moveset.
>>24815835
Charizard's a nightmare to plan, it's like a 1/126 chance of getting the ideal moveset. Raticate seems kinda cute, though, it gets Swords Dance and Quick Attack.
>>24815802
>>24815791
>>24815813
This "Sacred Ruins"...
How does it compare to Joyous Tower and Destiny Tower?
>>24815860
39f, but there are no easy tactics like Smoochum and Drifblim. Weaker moves as a whole due to changed mechanics making base power matter more, and TM's are extremely rare.
>>24815785
I will never understand why people choose not to evolve just because of a short, pointless animation. Evolution can add a new type for more STAB and a wider movepool, both of which can make exploring dungeons easier. The animations last for a couple seconds and add nothing at all.
>>24815887
I evolved my partner because wartortle is objectively superior to squirtle
>>24815887
Chespin's not as cute as chesnaught
>>24815876
What's the deal with Smoochum? Does it have good starting moves or high base stats?
>>24815932
Smoochum has FOREWARN. This allows it to have a random chance to dodge ANY attack, even Swift. It activates a lot of the time, i want to think maybe 30%, but that's a guess. Combine with a Detect Band and your evasiveness is through the roof.
It also gets Powder Snow. Shit in SMD, godly in Sky because it hits the whole room in that. Also, Sweet Kiss to incapacitate foes.
>>24815903
objectively false
>>24815903
Mein Nigger
Anyone got the screenshot of Quilladin when you recruit them and they ask about "bodies slightly on the chubby side"?
>>24815903
>>24815946
>>24815962
Well this is embarrassing.I actually meant to say that Chespin is cuter, but I completely fucked it up
>>24815997
that's more like it
>>24816002
Rest assured i still like Chesnaught.I just like Chespin more
>>24816015
The damage is done, Senpai
What's your favorite dungeon name?
I think Darknight Relic sounds pretty cool. Joyous Tower, too.
>>24816027
>Joyous Tower with no space on the team
You won't be recruiting anything that way, unless they're there to be bodyguards until the higher floors.
>>24816027
Tiny Woods.
>>24816035
This isn't my screenshot, anon. Nobody with any sense would name their pokemon "1337".
>>24816056
FUCK chespinnotliterally.
>>24816066hugchespin
>suddenly Amoongus appears and deals 8x the damage of everyone else
>>24816097
What floor was that for you? Happened to me on 11.
>>24816109
Just about there.
>>24815011
If I remember right, that was made with only how well they do during the story in mind.
Something's wrong, Superpower is lowering my stats, but Amoongus using Sweet Scene is upping my evasiveness.
>>24816129
Weird. Poor coding in the game, maybe? Super Power increased my stats when I used it.
>>24816135
Oh it buffed my stats earlier, no question. But past a point, it just isn't. Sweet Scent still buffs my evade, though. I thought it was due to Sawk, but one was in front of me when a mon used Sweet Scent.
>>24816146
What's the furthest you've gotten so far?
>>24816129
>>24816135
There was a time when my Water Looplet literally didn't work at all on one specific team member but worked normally on the other 2. I clearly hold the looplet on THAT one specific Pokemon, but it didn't work only for said Pokemon, but work for the others. Why?
Is there a specifically good way to farm gold bars? All I got is that sparkles ~~~seem~~~ to appear more often the lower you go, so going to a deep dungeon might work out well?
>>24816150
It just ended. Floor 27F. A Braixen hit me with a Truant wand earlier in the floor, and i ran out of wands that could be useful. I was at 40HP or so from a Two-Edged Wand because i needed it to attack with, and got hit by Crunch.
Excellent starting moveset and ability, Contrary Superpower is a huge boon, and you can use Reflect to buff your defense for a bit should you get cornered. You'll need to reset until you get the right moveset though, you NEED Superpower. Has the ability to move through water as well. Even without using Superpower you'll likely get buffs randomly from Growl and Tail Whip, a huge help. But, be careful, after a point, it seems like Superpower stops buffing your stats somewhere around 20F, and I have yet to find out why.
If anybody can find a reason this happens, please tell me. It didn't work on Mightyena because of the Truant Wand, but everything before then, I haven't the faintest clue.
Who do I use next?
>>24816173
Chespin? Seems like a good contender with its starting movepool.
>>24816173
Raticate could work, if you get Swords Dance and Quick Attack.
>>24816168
Only thing I can tell is that Monster Houses tend to have a lot of sparkles. You can trades 100 of a specific item for one bar too, so there is a reason to collect a lot of Gravelrocks.
whats the best way to grind for gold bars?
>>24816179
I'll give this a shot.
>>24816183
This afterwards
>>24816188
Do you have all your pokemon ratings stored somewhere?
>>24816213
Yes and no. I'm writing this all down in a notepad file, but the pastebin needs updating.
Chespin gave up on floor 3. Walked into a monster house, where a Bunnelby used Agility.
Starts with Vine Whip/Tackle/Growl. Basic, but at least you have a little bit of range. Nothing gamebreaking, but gamebreaking is needed for Sacred Ruins, leaving Chespin a bad choice for this.
>>24816231
Made a pastebin with my rankings so far, very much a work in progress since I've only done 6 Pokemon. http://pastebin.com/LhN6Q18N
Raticate is up next
>>24816239
Another one I've looked into is Ninetales, the move set isn't fantastic, but it can get some work done. 2/5 chance you'll get the ideal move set.
>>24816239
>1st floor Warp Looplet
Tell me this is happening, please.
>>24816260
Not 'til you hit 10 or you get a TM that allows you to damage Ghosts. I have little faith in Raticate, sorry.
>powder snow no longer hits everyone
why god
>mfw Meteorite Crater
Raticate died on floor 9 from a Machoke's Karate Chop. Are the pokemon in this slightly randomized? Sometimes I see pokemon i haven't seen in other runs, like Chatot and Stunfisk.
Starts with Swords Dance and Quick Attack, very good. What's NOT good is the lack of anything to hit ghosts with. I got this far with a Warp Looplet.
Who's next?
>>24816314
Have you tried the classic Alakazam with teleport?
>>24816325
Alakazam was the best choice in Rescue Team, but now that Teleport is nerfed and has less PP, I have little hope. I will, however, attempt it anyways
What's the fast command for Look Around?
>>24816325
Died floor 2 to Kricketune's Fury Cutter
Once the best choice way back in Rescue Team, Alakazam has fallen far from grace. Teleport has very little PP, with a measly 8 uses. You have nothing that can touch Houndour apart from your little weak A tap, and with so many pokemon strong against Psychic, combined with Zam's paper defense, there's no hope for this pokemon.
Next victim, please.
>>24816379
Hold Y then press B
>>24816337
Want to try Clawitzer after that? Water Gun/Aura Sphere/Dragon Pulse/Dark Pulse with Mega Launcher doesn't sound too shabby.
>>24816389
It's unavailable, but i can just jump into the Sacred Ruins from the Nexux and Give up to hurry it up.
>>24816383
Rip Zam
Your legacy lives on
>>24816408
Ninetales? I'll look for some more serious candidates.
>>24816421
Shit, someone said that before. I'll do it after Clawitzer.
>>24816426
Same anon that suggested Ninetales. Problem with it is it's a 1/5 chance to get the ideal moveset (Flamethrower, Nasty Plot, Quick Attack). Without this, you're dead to Flash Fire, a Ghost type, or lack any real damage. God forbid if there is a Litwick or similar in this place.
>>24814662
Try reading what I said again. I just wanted my physical appearance to reflect how beefy my stats are getting up from leveling up and downing vitamins as we take these Legendaries down one by one. Going through that awkward middle stage phase now. Can't wait to evolve again to gain my dual-typingsTurtwig with Froakie Partner, what quiz gave meand access to better moves.Also, since I randomly ended up with Turtwig, that feels super appropriate for the story considering it involves a giant tree, so it'll be like I'm growing a spare Tree of Life on my back.
>>24816445
I'm no stranger to resetting, I'm doing it with Clawitzer. 6 Start moves, 2 of which are heal pulse/SPLASH
Is it possible to get hidden abilities in the new game?
>>24816471
No, it is not.
>>24816469
Two others that look interesting are Venomoth and Dugtrio.
Venomoth has Quiver Dance, Bug Buzz, and Silver Wind, but the reset looks stupid to get the right moves. 4/35 chance of getting the right Venomoth.
Dugtrio has Rototiller, and if I'm not mistaken, that triples speed in PSMD. Night Slash to deal with the Ghosts, Tri-Attack for everything else. 1/5 chance of getting the right Dugtrio.
>>24816515
Venomoth does seem really good, but Rototiller only affects grass types and Night Slash, Tri Attack, and Scratch probably won't help a physical ground type too much.
there's like ten thousand of these
>>24816622
/r/ing chandelure because its facial expressions are great
>the letters on leaving the village
FUCK I DIDNT COME HERE FOR FEELS
>>24816656
>He didn't come to PMD for feels
Died floor 10 to a Machoke's Low Kick. It's such bullshit how they throw random pokemon into the floors that are about triple the strength of every other enemy on the floor. It makes you feel like they barely even bothered with these dungeons.
Another pokemon with 6 starting moves, only 4 of which are any good as 2 are Splash/Heal Pulse. Mega Launcher is a very good ability, and this makes Clawitzer a good choice, but you'll have to reset upwards of a dozen times for the right moveset.
Ninetales now
>>24816680
It felt like most of the overpowered Pokemon were usually asleep, so if you didn't disturb their rest, you could sneak right past them.
>>24816703
Machoke wasn't. Amoongus wasn't. Delphox and Mightyena weren't either.
>>24816680
>It makes you feel like they barely even bothered with these dungeons.
this is most dungeons though
>>24816706
>>24816709
This dungeon feels insane. I'm seriously wondering if it's possible at all.
>>24816622
What did you use to extract the portraits anon? I've been trying to do it for days.I really want the Cyndaquil line ones.
>>24816680
Is this in the Sacred Ruins?
Calling it quits for Ninetales without even getting past floor 1. After reading the below, you'll understand why.
Starts with 6 moves, so here's yet another pokemon you'll have to reset for, and the only offensive moves are Flamethrower/Quick Attack. Nasty Plot can make Flamethrower hit hard, but with such few attacks, Ninetales is a waste of time that is far too reliant on TM's, which are excessively rare.
>>24816738
Yes.
Good partner for Chespin?
>>24816799
Fenni for Psybeam
Or pretty much anyone
>>24816755
Going with Raikou, time to see how a legendary fares here. Looks promising, Leer/Bite/Extrasensory/Discharge
>>24816713
Furthest I made it was floor 24 with Drifblim having Gust/Minimize/Phantom Force/Astonish.
Keldeo was good but I severely fucked up with it as it was one of my first runs. Was killing monster houses, and any enemy I came across. Found a damn Surf TM too. I was so set but I got cocky. That was before I knew that this wasn't going to be like other dungeons.
>>24816622
>>24816715
i'll find these portraits when i get home.
i used a tool i wrote myself.
>>24816814
Floor 8, Bellossom spamming Leaf Storm. Pure fucking horseshit that you can go all these floors with enemies dealing maybe 20 damage MAX, and then this piece of this waddles up and hits you for 75.
Extremely good moveset, including Extrasensory, the room hitting Discharge, and the Ghost hitting Bite. No normal Electric attack like Thundershock until level 8, and chances are you'll want to save Discharge for large rooms. High starting stats, but takes awhile to level up. Despite this, Raikou has some serious potential.
Give me another mon to slaughter
>>24816854
Can you upload a rar file with all those portraits? I've been ready for this ever since release date.
>>24816874
How about Noivern?
>>24816894
I can try, but I'm getting pretty damn demoralized. At least with ZIS there were only a few that were so much stronger, and even then you could hit them decently hard.
>>24816894
>>24816902
This is already going to be hell. Seven different starting moves.
>>24816919
>seven
OH i was wrong. Leech Life is level 5. EIGHT
>>24816959
No i'm not doing this. I calculated the odds, and getting what i want has an astronomically low chance
The fucking NIGHTMARE of rerolling. EIGHT different starting moves. By the time you get done rerolling for the moves you want, you could have tried out like 20 different Pokemon. Pass on this mon solely due to the waste of time that is the reset
>>24816874
octillary is my go-to-mon for those dungeons.
try him
>>24817000
Octillery was a good choice for Zero Isle, at least the ones with a team.
Six rerollable moves, but they're good so it's not so bad
>Thought people were saying Ampharos was a she before the game came out
>Ampharos is a he in game
>Go on mission withChatot
>Chatot refers to Wigglytuff as "she"
Did I miss something?
>>24817031
That's pretty much the only mistake in the game, short one letter.
>>24816988
>>24816939
I'm trying Eelektross right now and it has fucking TEN
Anyone knows the effective radius of room-hitting moves while the user is in a corridor?
>>24817049
Fuck off, which ones?
Share results and give descriptions on how things work, 717 pokemon are a fucking load to go through.
>>24817059
Thrash, Zap Cannon, Gastro Acid, Coil, Ion Deluge, Crush Claw, Headbutt, Acid, Discharge, and Crunch.
I just got Crush Claw/Discharge/Zap Cannon/Coil and I'm going to try it. This is my first Sacred Ruins run so it probably won't end well.
>>24817082
Beware of Delphox/Machoke/Mighyena/Bellossom/Alomomola
>>24817084
>>24817082
>ditto crits me for 40 damage with zap cannon on floor 2
>die
epic
>use Earthquake with type bulldozer equipped
fuck
>>24817084
If you're done with your current run, think you can test out Medicham, Altaria, or Heracross?
Medicham's starting movepool doesn't look too bad consisting of elemental punches and Zen Headbutt, though you'll have to reset a bit. It also seems that it has a short level up.
Altaria looks decent if you're fine with being stuck with Flying-type attacks for a while (including Sky Attack) and gets Fury Attack at level 10.
Heracross has Bullet Seed, Arm Thrust, and Tackle for long-range, power, and PP saving respectively.
>>24817122
I might be taking a break after Octillery. This dungeon's demoralizing as shit and frankly I'd rather tackle Destiny Tower again
I'm a grass type and the water types in submerged cave are still owning me.
Heeeeaaalp
>>24817144
Coming
I got sniped by a Psybeam that took exactly all my HP.
Six rerollable moves, but nearly all are good, the exception being Constrict. Many ranged attacks, but sadly nothing brokenly good.
Done for tonight, I'll try again tomorrow once I have a little more hope for things.
>>24817153
Don't give up!
>>24817153
Eelektross seems really good. I'm on floor 11 of trial 2
>>24817153
I'd have even more motivation, but as far as i can tell, there's no reward at all. The other level 1 dungeons didn't, and I don't see this being different, unless there's a reward for clearing every dungeon in the game.
>>24817158
I'm not, but it's fucking rough. There ARE many pokemon to try out, but the best so far is Malamar. With the right wands, you might have a shot, but what the fuck is with Contrary breaking?
>>24817144
Done, Stayaway Wands will be more useful to you here than a reviver seed.
>>24817178
I better give you something!
>>24816879
will do when i get back, check back in 6 hours or so
>>24816655
i just realized i replied wrongly oops, see >>24817222
>spawn on a new floor
>6 wonder tiles, 2 training tiles, 2 sparkling spots, 2 enemies and the stairs in one room
>>24817134
I hear ya. You look like you've been doing this for hours. I would've quit hours ago if it were up to me, shiet.
>>24817237
>Luminous Orb
>There's a shit ton of items where the stairs are
>It's a very small room
>That'sbait.gif
>Go everywhere else before heading to the stairs
>Enter the room
>Nothing happens
>Mfw there was just a room with a shit ton of items and sparkles
Man, this game destroy the concept of trust
>>24817266
>that first connection mission with the monster house
>the next one you do comments how you probably thought it'd be a monster house
>I've yet to do another where it was a monster house again
>every single time I prepare for the worst case scenario
>>24817266
diggity
>>24817266
>secret base mission
>"You thought this was going to be a monster house? Don't be ridiculous!"
>jk i fooled u lmao
>Use an Action Replay code to give a mon max IQ
>It gets all the skills, but there isn't a star next to the permanent ones (max HP +10, etc.) like there should be
>Have to release the Pokemon because it bares a mark of shame
FUCK
Now I'm trying to find one that'll fill my inventory with Wonder Gummis.I know this makes me a faggot, but the gummi grind is hard enough for one team of Pokemon, let alone the ten or so guys I want to use sometimes
>>24817283
why bother breaking the game that much? it can't possibly be fun being that needlessly overpowered
What if (actual spoilers)your starter gains the ability to learn all TMs and Hawlucha tutor attacks after completing the epilogue andseparating him from Mew
>>24817293
>he doesn't want to be the very best
Nah, but seriously, starting from scratch and spending time to become "the best" is sorta fun for some people.
If you don't wanna break the game, you can always try maining other mons or characters.
>>24817277
>Trust Sudowoodo's sekret club to not be a Monster House
>Mfw "silly bitch"
I TRUSTED YOU
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
>>24817174
>>24817167
I died to an Amoongus on floor 25. I didn't think it'd be able to take an entire Thrash at the amount of health it had left.
Discharge/Zap Cannon/Thrash/Coil worked very well, but mainly because I found emera such as Status Mirror and Confusion Guard. Discharge and Zap Cannon are pretty much necessary, but you can be flexible with the other 2 moves because there are 10 it can start with.
Probably not the best, but still very good
>>24817293
I suck at games. Even without cheating, I'd definitely max out the IQs of a few Pokemon like Palkia and Mew. I just want to max them and my favourites. Besides, I'm not altering their other stats. That would really be going overboard.
>>24817315
>pseudo~pseudo~pseudo~pseudo~
>pseudo~pseudo~pseudo~
>pseudo~
>SUUDO
>>24817174
I don't know about actually reaching the final floor of every dungeon in the game but I went ahead and just died in Sacred Ruins to see if 100% "completion" for every dungeon would do anything and it does.
You are able to choose where you want to go from the Pokemon Nexus, instead of having to use Lapras.
>>24817345
You've got to be fucking kidding me. The reward for completing every dungeon in the game to complete the map is to have the dungeon selection be the same as it was in the previous games, rather than the fucking tedious mess it is now?
Fuck, I'm mad.
>>24817372
>completing
You could just select "give up" on floor 1 and get the check mark
>>24817375
That's still pretty bad as a "prize", especially when Pelliper Island exists.
>>24817345
>You are able to choose where you want to go from the Pokemon Nexus, instead of having to use Lapras.
>>>>>That's it
>>24817401
That's for just entering the dungeons. It's yet to be known if they do anything after beating them all
You know what would have been interesting? If there had been little Special Episode-like things that focused on all of the different continents, because they all kinda felt like afterthoughts; they could very easily have slapped everything on one big landmass and nothing would have changed.
I just wish they had more to them other than "they have towns through which you can go to dungeons".
>>24817439
We need episode for the Expedition Society members.
>>24817453
>Bunnelby in the postgame: "Oh, I've lost something..."
>we'll never find out what it was
>>24817453
We need an episode that gives Swirlex anything but just "muh food"
>>24817463
Swirlix is a lost cause
Other society members would be cool though
>>24817456His virginity
>>24817510>Implying any of the girls would even consider taking such a thing from him>When based Amphy and Buizel exist
>>24817518>implying Dedenne and Mawile aren't shagging anyway
>implying Jirachi is ever awake to bone
>implying Buizel isn't a huge faggot
>>24817526>Implying Jirachi cares about boning when he can just dream with no interruptions
>>24817518
Hey, some girls like losers.R-right?
>>24817533>heI actually didn't know Jirachi was a guyi thought she was so cute
I just want an episode explaining how Ampharos got to know Jirachi and Celebi so well. Dude literally lives with Jirachi and has both of them on speed dial when he needs them to pop off
>>24817539You're not alone on thatWe both fell for the greatest ruse of our time
>>24817538You're only chance is Hamster Pikachu. Mawile's out of your league
If anyone is looking for a reliable dungeon for steali- err I mean purchase rainbow TMs I'd recommend Waterfall Basin Groto on Water Continent. Kecleon shop has been on the 16th floor every time, and often carries at least 1.
If you're feeling naughty then equip the Satiated Looplet with a ghost type Pokemon that can walk through walls. I've found Rotom base form to be the best since it also has Levitate, as well as room attacks.
How much do the move boosting drinks help?
>>24817541
he also knows a Mawile that could fight entai.
dude's got connections
>>24817585
you tell me
So anons, how much should I roid up my mons for the never hungry dungeons? I'm aiming for the Satiated Looplet.
>tfw found a code that maxes IQ with just one gummi and leaves no traces of cheating
Fuck your gummis, I'm not giving my Pokemon diabetes.I had to use my 2004 DS which is finally starting to fail after over a decade -- Battery charge doesn't hold, touch screen goes off by itself in random places, shoulder buttons sometimes fail, takes several attempt to read the AR cart;~;
>>24817659
What is it?
>>24817673
1201197E 0000E1C9
You have to feed it a gummi outside of a dungeon, like in town. The only downside is that they won't get the gradual random stat increases from being fed hundreds of gummis.
>>24817688
Thanks!Also, sorry about your DS. Mine's worse, since it can't use LR buttons, the part that connects the top and bottom screen is floppy, nd can' read any od my game cards.
>>24817722
Damn, why even hang on to it?
>>24817603
Oh, you can't boost power to past the normal width of the bar?
In Gates you could boost moves to the point that they would roflstomp everything. Pic related.
>>24817740
I use it as a spare alarm clock.
So I've finally connected with everyone but Arceus. Anyone got any tips I can play around with for Destiny Tower? Anything is appreciated.
>>24817795
Get the Satiated Looplet. Attack in front of you with the A attack in rooms, if there's a trap there, this uncovers the trap. Bring a lot of Max Elixers, Reviver Seeds, and Guiding Wands. Most importantly, Stayaway Wands.
>>24817659
You CAN get a shiny refurbished DS Lite at Gamestop for like $40-70, yknow.
It's handy for emulating and RNG abuse if you're into those.
As much as I'm liking PSMD, it just makes me want to play Sky again...
>tfw can't find the cart
>tfw laptop is too much of a potato to run even fucking desmume
>>24817852
Desmume is terribly slow.
Try NO$GBA, it even outperforms native Desmume on Linux when running in Wine.
So I went to pokemon.com to watch the Hoopa shorts, and then watched the related PMD shorts out of boredom.
why does everybody besides Grovyle (Dan Green) sound awful? I get mystery dungeon characters are supposed to be quirky, but still
>>24817858
I'll check it out, thank you!
Volcanion DLC when
>>24817875
don't watch dubs
It's my first time playing a MD game. I took the test and now I'm playing as Torchic. My partner is Pikachu. I think I fucked up becuase I don't even like those pokemons and they don't seem to be that good so far. Pikachu is alright, it does a lot of damage.
I spent all my gold on proteins for torchic but I think spa is better overall. How important is raising attack for Torchic?
>>24817876
By the way, when I say outperforms. I mean utterly decimates in terms of performance. a 3x increase in speed is not unusual.
>>24817805
Thanks anon. Stone Tree Mountain first it is then, and hopefully I find more Guiding Wands or Luminous Orbs in the process.
>>24817961
You can also cheese it with a ghost type Pokemon that has Levitate and is holding the Satiated Looplet.
I did it earlier today and made it through all 99 floors without using a single item other than Guiding Wands, which I ended up not really needing anyway.
Just took Rotom, the Looplet, and the Guiding Wands and looked for the stairs while infinitely flying through the walls.
EZ PZ
It's what wrapped up my vitaminless run of PSMD, now Sacred Ruins. . . UGH!
>>24817996
That's so incredibly cheap and something I'm seriously considering you're a lifesaver anon.
>>24817996
If you find some good strategy, let me know. In the OP there's a pastebin of what I've done so far, within the guides section
Is the anon that requested this around yet?
https://soundcloud.com/lotias/053-final-battle-vs-rayquaza-draft
It's finals week, so I won't be finishing any remix for a bit, this draft is all you guys'll hear for a while.
>>24818007
For sure, I know how much of a pain it can be. Hopefully we find that niche Pokemon for this thing, if it's even possible. So far Malamar has been the most reliable for me, just wondering if a Stair Locator found in the dungeon would be enough because I'm beginning to think not with all the buffed Pokemon they randomly spread out such as Amoongus, Primeape etc.
I feel like I'm going to have to just check every single Pokemon and their standard abilities in conjunction with their level 5-7 movesets to figure this out.
>>24818023
I requested that, and it sounds nice so far.
>>24818028
By the sound of things? Stair Locator+Warp Looplet is the god combo. There MUST be a niche enough pokemon that's good enough for it. Alakazam was that mon in Rescue Team, and Sky brought us many that were useful. Even CHATOT was able to get all the way in ZIS.
I hit floor 27f with Malamar, but I wish i knew why Contrary Superpower stopped working. I know i didn't have a Nullify Looplet on.
WOW
>>24818071
I think you dealt so much damage that it wrapped around on the display to show a health increase.
What did you need to accomplish to get this?
>>24818098
I got it from a comment on reddit
>Charizard, 255 special atttack stat. All exclusive items that raise special attack in bag. Eat a violent seed. Hold a space globe. Use sunny orb. Use the Crit orb (whatever's it's called). Use blast burn on a paras, which: has been vile seeded, and doom seeded to level one. Oh, yea, and stand near three pokemon with cheerleader.
I tried testing his method to confirm if it would hit the 100,000 mark, but it didn't. I think the damage that I dealt actually broke the system.
Does evolving mess up my stat growth or something along those lines? I've seen that you guys grind past level 50 but don't evolve, why is that?
>>24818111
>space globe
that's a laugh.
>>24818112
Evolving has zero impact on stats at all. I'm level 92, but still a Chespin. My only reason is that I think chespin is really cute, and that's what i like about PMD. I don't feel like i'm forced to evolve my favorites just to use them, since even something like a Wooper can outdamage the likes of a Kyogre.
>>24818127
Oh, alright, thanks for clearing it up.
>>24818111
I think you need to be 1 square away from them, not in a hallway. Also, would a Flower Gift Cherrim help?
Guys, think about it.
Cute little links on the affinity chart that we don't know specifically why they're there, like the larvitar cranidos.
Fanfiction.
Just finished SPMD.
Fuck me, that was rough.
>One of the few times the Totodile model shows any emotion is heart-renching sadness
>>24818219
Now go to the jukebox and listen to the music box version of your partner's theme
>>24818071
Here's Rescue Team.
Lv. 100 Charizard with 267 +10 Sp. Atk (Special Band goes through cap; also Helping Hand), Blaze activated, Sunny weather, attacking a Lv. 1 Paras with -10 Sp. Def with a critical Blast Burn
>>24817558Jokes on you, Mawile only goes on break like once every 5 missions now, so there's something this loser is doing right.
>>24818071
Holy fuck anon
>>24818098
Looks like it.
>>24818164
Flower Gift (and Cheerleader for that matter) changes stat stages, which are already accounted for by the Violent Seed, so it shouldn't affect damage. It's a shame that quite a few IQ skills and abilities work like that, because it means you can't stack damage modifiers like crazy.
>>24814994
I used Torchic and Froakie and there absolutely no way Torchic is better. Why is froakie so low to begin with? Being able to confuse,paralyze,and freeze made things so much easier while aerial ace helped with drifloons.
About the move guide.
Should we do one for other games?
Rescue Team's Blizzard hits only in front as far as I know.
Memento and Screech do have this weird seperate modifiers.
>>24815563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgve22OysOc
When it crescendos at 0:43 when i was playing the game is the one point in the series that actually got me misty eyed.
Does SMD fix what Gates fucked up on? Eurofag, so I've got time to think.
Will evolving actually get rid of the scarves like that?
>>24818696you lose the scarves no matter what
>>24818672
I don't think there are too many differences between the moves in R/B and Sky, but go right ahead if you're feeling up for it, anon.
>>24818312
>mfw I forgot about Ginseng
>tries to do it with +99 (the cap)
>the damage is the same
...
>looks up stuff
>realize game probably uses signed numbers (due to how Frustration treats IQ of 65535)
>32318 is just 449 points shy from the halfway point to 65535 and the maximum positive amount in signed 16-bit integer.
I think this is the hard cap on damage in Rescue Team.
>>24818704
Well if that, we at least should note differences.
>>24818038
this might be redundant to tell you, but why not bring hoopa along?
>>24815563
>>24815563
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FoOs6Zh2jxI
Damn it sounds so exciting to me, like "Ohmygod Ohmygod, we're so close to the final boss!!"
How does ACT function with Tyrantiar making a mess everywhere he goes with sand stream.
>>24818776
They became so great because they had to learn to cope with Tyranitar indirectly killing their targets if they took too long finding them.
>>24818784
he is both their greatest strenght and worst enemy at the best and worst of times
or perhaps hes unnerve
>>24818776
They probably solo dungeons most of the time.
How should I be using my Gold Bars? More vitamins on my starters with the Water Looplet? If so, should I be jacking up my primary attack stat, or spread it out evenly?
Am I losing my mind or something? Because it really seems like moves in this game miss at point blank much more often than in past games.
Like, I've missed more uses of Pound without an accuracy drop than with one.
Also, how fucked am I being aPiplupwithRioluas a partner? I just went with what the game chose for me.
someone please? being a cyndaquil sucks in this dungeon
>>24818894
I'm on it.
>>24818071
If you Blast Burn +99, the thing on the left happens.
If you're a fucking sadistic hacker, and get Blast Burn to the true cap of +255, the scenario on the right happens.The damage overflows TWICE.
>>24818927
Welp, wrong file.
Any tips for theGiratinabattle? That fucker is decimating me.
>>24818929
Wait, I was wrong.
It still overflows only once.
They still use signed 16-bit integer for that icon, but this time it seems you can overflow it into showing + instead of minus.
It counts down from +32,768 once you reach damage of 32,768 or higher.
>>24818936
Eat all the blast seeds you've been saving.
This is their time.
>>24818936
TRUANT WAND
R
U
A
N
T
W
A
N
D
>use max elixir
>step on a PP leach trap right after
>tfw you spot a stair locator emera
>>24818927
And if you're a real fucking sadistic hacker and set the move's type to one that doesn't exist, this sort of shit happens.
>>24819021
my fucking [insert appropiate god]
how do you do that
the number turned green.
it's green when it heals pokemon.
>>24819031
Seems like it did heal it.
I did it by editing Blast Burn's type in the ROM, setting it to 12. You can do that with the StatUtil linked in this thread (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?40199) or your favourite hex editor.
>>24819021
DAMN SON!
How did you hack the move into setting it to higher than +99?
>>24818817
Roid your primary attack stat along with your Speed. Also, try keeping a stockpile of Gold Bars by not using them TOO often.
>>24818893
Both Piplup and Riolu are okay, but not fantastic, so you're setting yourself a bit of a challenge.
And yeah accuracy is nerfed as hell in this game. Doesn't help when all the enemies are hitting you like pic related
>>24818776
Weather Looplets.
>>24819085
Sky Editor lets you set the Ginseng boost to up to +127.
Whats the fastes way to grind in this game?
I want to evolve myself and my partner to their final stage but they take so fucking long to level just one
>>24819123
Golden bananas+Water looplet or heatwave+mysteryous geoglyph.
>>24819087
Is the stockpile of Gold Bars only for when you lose a Looplet from the Treasure Collection or need a TM?
I already got myself an Excavation Looplet and am sitting on 23 bars right now.
>>24819087
I like to keep my stats rather balanced with my vitamines outside of the attack stat I don't use.
So, what's the best dungeon to find kecleon shop with rainbow tms?
I only found one once whilestill in the story mode and never found it again
>>24818738
no items
>>24816655
>>24816715
https://u.pomf.io/hbcbuc.zip
here's what i found, pretty sure i missed some since the files aren't named or ordered so you might wanna check the zip file with all the portraits: https://mega.nz/#!5EBBDT7B!jSV9Y0mnoOWfyvBzpy2Me4gaNrxmGlHnisxj7yUxRJs
>>24814994
Usually I think these lists are shit, but I'm MC froaki and PC charmander and he carried my ass through most everything before the post-game, so in my experience with just those two it's pretty accurate
>>24819102
Trying to edit the boost, but it won't let me edit it to +127.
>>24819443
Oh shit, nice work anon.
What's with all those portraits with the 3D models in them, though?
>Ghost island
>take a step
>enemy Frillish that isn't in the room uses Ominous wind KOing an enemy Shedinja that also isn't in the room
>Frillish evolved into Jellicent!
What in the hell is going on here? The Frillish couldn't have been confused because I only took 1 step. How did Ominous wind hit the Shedinja and why did Frillish use it in the first place?
>>24819471
i've no idea either, anon. i just converted all the image files to pngs, those are what i get. probably things left over from development/debugging, there's a lot of those.
Gates to Infinity message files feature "Victini's V-Fortune=Telling" where Victini really says "this feature is for the debug ROM only!"
>>24819485
The enemies go out of their way to target Shedinja. Shedinja will never even attack you either.
>>24819471
I guess those were supposed to be placeholders?
>>24819527
That's news to me. I've run into Shedinja on multiple occasions but that was the first time I ran into one with another enemy outside of a monster house
Oh shoot, I just remembered I'm still sad Iwata died.
>>24819604
They move at half speed as well. It's mean but you should KO them first, so enemies don't evolve
Is there any way to grind before the Mysterious Geoglyth? I don't even have a team consistent go there or to grind for money
>>24819624
You could do trips to Super Apple Forest with your motivated mons when you can. Decent exp, and you can steal from the shop at the end to top things off
I hate myself so time to go into the Ruins again.
Name the pokemon, and I'll take it.Again, I refuse to ever touch the genies
>>24819443
how many different reactions are there for each pokemon?!
are there are any for vanillite line?
>>24819640
Bellossom.what happened to genies.
>>24819697
I hate the shit out of them, and I refuse to use them in any way, shape, or form ever.
Call me autistic if you want, I already know I am, I'm writing guides on pmd.
>>24819677
quite a bunch apparently. there's probably at least like 2 or 3 for every pokemon, go check the zip file.
https://mega.nz/#!5EBBDT7B!jSV9Y0mnoOWfyvBzpy2Me4gaNrxmGlHnisxj7yUxRJs
>>24819830
it's already here, anon: >>24819443
Help.
S.O.S.
Save our shit!
I'm in the sand spirit place fifth floor! I had a team set up, but apparently didn't actually pick it, so I'm by myself...
>>24819918
On the way.
>>24819975
Give me a moment, rescuing someone else first.
>>24819918
>>24819978
Here.
>>24819975
Starting yours now.
>>24819417
well fuck
im betting on driftblim or Hawlucha then
>>24820023
Thanks senpai
>>24820033
Drifblim was good in the other dungeons, but due to Looplets, it might not be the best
>>24819640
Hawlucha
it has unburden
>>24819975
>>24819984
Here you go.
>>24820056
Will try affter Bellossom, got distracted by splatoon.
Fuck rerolling, i need Leaf Blade/Mega Drain/Sunny Day/Leaf Storm
>>24814994
>tfw Snivy
End my misery. Even in post game his shittiness haunts me.
>>24820244
>Tfw Snivy was the entire raisin why I restarted the game after finishing it
God Snivy is so bad
>>24820244
>>24820275
Snivy honestly deserves his own tier.
>Horrible movepool
>TERRIBLE stats without vitamins (nothing like high speed, low everything else)
>Fragile as shit
>SOMEONE, PLEASE HELP!
Is Super's story good?
>>24820376
Not as good as Explorers but pretty good, and way better to play than the earlier games
>Tyrantrum mission
>Have to travel 15 floors until he reaches the seealed door
>He dows nothing but waste my reviver seeds
>Reach the 15th floor
>Tyrantrum dies close to the door by a random discharge from a chichou
>>24820376
An ancient evil awakens.
NEW THREAD
>>24820425
>>24820425
>>24820425
>>24820058
Thanks so much man.
On my way to see Xatu to get my partner back.
I'M COMING JACQUES!!!
>>24815153
How do you get golden seeds and bananas on SMD???
>>24815630
The effect of any move being sealed should go away when you go to the next floor, even if the move was blocked via ban seed.
>>24815682
I couldn't care less about sleeping animation and I wanted the dual STAB and wider movepools, but I do miss froaki hopping everywhere yet I prefer charizard flying, especially because he can now go over water and open air.
>>24815785
The only thing you lose animation wise is sleep animation, that's it.
>>24815813
I roided the fuck out of my starters and a full support move set lilligant and have beaten it, although even with them each having 255 in 3 stats and a good bit of HP, and I still had to use wands, orbs, and revivers, but yeah I have beaten it.
>>24821060
Fuck my bad I got sacred ruins mixed up with another hard AF dungeon. I've heard a great strategy is having a Pokemon that can ghost through walls and give it the satiated (never get hungry, even pushing and ghosting) looplet.
>>24821087
You cannot bring items into Sacred Ruins.
>>24819471
Most likely placeholder images until the final ones were drawn.
>>24819471
Hey anon. Are you planning on putting all the portraits onto the Spriters Resource? If you aren't, I plan to do it. I'll make sure to give you all the credit too.
>>24816162
Its got to be a coding issue, I run into Pokemon sometimes where my moves that should be super effective on it are normally effective. And they aren't mons with camaflouge or any ability or moves that can change their type or that negate SE hits. It's always fixed on the next floor, I figure that because the game has so much content there are a few fuck ups like yours and the ones I've mentioned as well as others I've read. And I'm sure I haven't even notice every time it happens. So yeah I'm assuming it's coding because so much content there are a few hiccups.
>>24817996
Wait which dungeon in SMD has 99 floors??
>>24821917
Destiny Tower.
>>24818936
Truant wand, ban seed, cofagrigus with curse and disable, curse being the most important. Unless you mean giratina in the story, in which case truant wand and that's all I really remember that far back.
>>24820385
I just did that same mission, he wasted a bunch of my seeds as well but I made it, it unlocks some underwater dungeon or something. I was kinda pissed tyrant is not a gigantic Pokemon
>>24821102
God damn
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