Prove me wrong
Tips for determining factual information:YOU LITERALLY CANNOT
Starters should be monotype at least in stage #1
So Venusaur is CANCER TIER
>>24789363
that's just autism, we're talking about design here, but I do agree
>>24789346
>Greninja better than Samurott
Die, frogposter.
>>24789346
>blastoise
>in top tier
Op confirmed shit taste
>>24789371
>Samurott
Oh, boy. Here we go.
>>24789379
kill yourself
How are Empoleon and Chestnaught "just gets bigger"? Their designs are a lot more complex than their preevos.
>>24789394
Empoleon is just a bigger Penguin.
Chesnaught I actually kind of see what you mean, I wanted to make a limbo tier for him and Serperior, but I decided against it. Chespin is basically just a chibi Chesnaught without a shell or shield or whatever.
>>24789405
How are Venusaur and Sceptile not 'just gets bigger?'
>>24789426
Because they're their own unique creature and not just my mom's animal. Venusaur especially. It's definitely a logical progression Evolution rather than a size-up like Typhlosion.
>>24789346
Pretty good taste here.
venasaur is shiiit
>>24789465
Servine? Why?
>>24789346
>My shitty subjective opinion is right because I say so
Kek, never change /vp/.
>>24789681
also this
Based of performance in battle and fact.
>>24789699
>based on battle
>swampert and infernape below feraligatr, empoleon and charizard
I'm assuming no megas
fuck you
>>24789722
doing this too
>>24789720
then charizard would be in bttm
Also, chesnaught is good. move it up
>>24789346
>Blaziken
>>24789722
>>24789832
>>24789346
>>24789465
>>24789681
>>24789699
>>24789714
>>24789832
No, you're the cancer.
>>24789873
It's not that I hate it, it's just what a fucking disappointment Delphox was.
>>24789722
>Samurott in great
Disregarded
>>24789872
>Samurott in top
Disregarded
>>24789883
>filename
I know.
>>24789346
>it gets bigger
>what is evolution in pokemon?
also blazeken is the shit cancer shits out.
>>24789371
>Samurott
Literally shell on head retarded
>>24789872
>megas
>>24789346
>>24789346
>literally it-gets-bigger
don't most of them do that
isn't that the point
>>24789346
i like delphox
but i agree with OP image
>>24789346
Personally, I think Starters should start off as basic pokemon of their types.
Example: Bulbasaur with just grass and normal moves.
When they hit their second form, their moveset should expand slightly to another type.
Example: Ivysaur starts getting a few Poison moves
Finally, their last form should be combat ready with some perk reserved just for them.
Example: Venusaur gets bulky and becomes a beast in the sun with chlorophyll, synthesis and solarbeam
By contrast, something like Serprior is just "its just a regular grass type for the most part until it gets Leaf Storm. Oh and hope you have a good HP type.
>>24789907
not liking mega blaziken should be a crime
>>24789346
Being a bit biased about the 'literally it-gets-bigger/my mom's animal' section, aren't ya? Everything in the 10/10 kaiju tier, what starters should be' section falls under that too.
>>24789346
>2011+4
>hating Meganium
>>24789346
>top tier is called Kaiju Tier
>Typhlosion a Kaiju isn't in it but Greninja a ninja is
>>24789346
>actually enjoying blaziken
what fucking planet are you from where you think empoleon and chesnaught are just bigger versions of their prevos but venusaur isn't?
>>24791232
>reading comprehension
Empoleon and Chesnaught are "my mom's animal".
>>24791232
Relax anon, OP is just retarded. Retarded people just will look for reasons to dislike things just because.
>>24789346
>>24791319
>one trick fire pony in top tier
>2stronk4ou fire chicken in nope
>greninja in nope as well
>everything else
smelly dumb karenite scum
>>24789432
Then why is Meganium not with venusaur? You're not being consistant
>>24791379
Because the Chikorita line is
>weird ass quadruped
>bigger weird ass quadruped
>bigger weird ass quadruped
It's the same pokémon, just bigger.
>>24791319
You're the living embodiment of shit taste
>>24791397
Bulbasaur
>weird ass quadruped
>Bigger weird ass quadruped
>Bigger weird ass quadruped
It's the same Pokemon, just bigger.
>>24791419
Actually both are:
>Dinosaur
>larger dinosaur
>even larger dinosaur
>>24791397
They're both a quadruped that just gets bigger with a flower that blooms. Practically the same fucking pokemon stat wise as well.
>>24789346
Torterra belongs in that middle tier
>>24789346
how is feraligatr not in kaiju tier
But Empoleon is a great starter
rate my bad taste
>>24791755
>great tier
>ultra ball
What are you doing
>>24791755
2049
>>24789346
>Swampert not top tier.
... Are you expecting me to take this seriously?
>>24791963
So I heard you like shitty memes
>>24792053
>Undercutting a top-tier starter because of "shitty memes."
Yeah... I can't take you seriously.
>>24791944
Worst taste so far
I can understand people that DON'T like the Pokemon I like, but I will never understand people that like Pokemon I dislike.
Fuck you Venusaur, Marshtomp and many others.
>>24789346
Chesnaught isn't just "it-gets-bigger", and it looks like no real animal. Therefore, you're fucking wrong faggot.
>>24789894
>wearing a helmet in battle is retarded
Torterra belongs in Lower Than Cancer tier and anyone thinking it looks anything but a big pile of shit should be genocided for extreme case of shit taste.
>>24789465
Swap Charizard and Emboar and this is pretty much golden
>>24789699
>typhlosion not in trash rank
>chesnaught not in somewhat usable
>feraligatr not in somewhat usable
>empoleon not in somewhat usable
>>24792229
>typhlosion
>trash
>what is Choice Eruption
>>24789346
Move the gator up top and this image is perfect
>>24792253
A gimmicky one-trick pony that can easily be neutered by Stealth Rock and priority
>>24789722
>I don't like monkeys
Honestly, that's the best reason I've seen for disliking infernape.
>>24789720
Sheer Force Feraligatr is great. Certainly not broken as fuck like Grenigga or Blaziken, but still decent.
>>24792253
>too slow without scarf
>mediocre power with scarf
>priority bait
>generally outclassed by most fire types
I'll pass.
It's only "useable" in the sense that sometimes it will work, you would never seriously pick it over another fire type.
Oh wow, /vp/ really has cancer taste in everything huh...
Swap empoleon and greninja
>>24789346
How someone could not appreciate the aesthetic of Serperior is beyond me.
>>24794575
>yellow shit all over it
>entire head is an impossible shape from a 3D perspective
>ears
Fuck, it's not good. That being said, I do have a softspot for it. I do actually like Snivy.
Better.
>>24789346
> Blaziken and Greninja top tier
You sure have nice shitty tastes.
>>24798456
are you me?
>>24799610
both are fags?
>>24799628
speak for yourself
>>24799671
TOP KEK
>MY SUBJECTIVE OPINION IS OBJECTIVELY CORRECT!
>>24789346
alright I'm gonna discard your opinion because when it's pretty fucking retarded to make up a "literally ti get's bigger / my moms animal"-Tier and then not put fucking blastoise in it that belongs there more than anything else you put in there
>>24791258
what animal is chesnaught?
>>24789346
>implying gen 1 starters are good
Sorry OP but I can't take your bait seriously when you spill nonsense like this.
serperior is better than shitty meganium
>>24789346
Your taste is factually wrong
Your tier list is automatically wrong if Blaziken is not in the bottom tier
I don't really think any design is bad, they're all designed to be likable and marketable in some regard. There are just some I don't hold as much of a fondness of.
These are mostly aesthetic opinions but game balance and person experience also sway this a little.
>>24800980
hedgehog, pangolin
>>24804827
>Chesnaught
>great
How? He's fucking shit. Slow, bad movepool, and outclassed by other things. His design's not bad but even for a casual playthrough he's not so great.
>>24804827
>lowest tier is good tier
You'remy nigga.
>>24789346
Pretty apt. I'd move Chesnaught up and Greninja down personally but that's just me.
>>24789346
Oh I see you're talking about design again.
>>24804827
>Those opinions
>That list
Now THIS is the best taste ITT. The only change i'd make would be to move Blastoise down to Great tier. Everything else is spot on.
>>24789346
>charizard isn't cancer tier
fuck off nostalgiafag
>>24789722
>Great Ball
>not representative of Great tier
TRIGGERED
>>24789346
Every single starter is the cancer.
>>24807500
Upboated
>>24789346
ITT: Retards aren't aware people can have different opinions
>>24807559
That's right. Only humans aren't cancer.
>>24807645
Go back to >>>/man/ , you communist scum. Hope you enjoy getting c.ucked.