New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW
News/Legal List/Set scans/etc
>http://pokebeach.com/
How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>unlock all locked cards in the three theme decks you're given at the start
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>enter theme tournaments with basic green and get both hitters prized
>enter standard/expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes a tradable pack
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>use the Trade section to trade the packs and chests for the shit you need
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ for a list of viable decks or ask here
Your old cards are probably worthless.
To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
To get a general idea about what is strong in the Meta go there
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/metagame-deck-discussion.250/
Pack codes are worth about 15-30 cents while other codes are worth around a dollar or two.
Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Never post them as text, even if they're missing a letter/number
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered
If you're interested in working on /vp/'s custom TCG, find their general in the catalog and post there.
TotT: What do you think of BREAKPoint/Rage of the Broken Heavens so far?
Old thread >>24761086
God that Espeon looks like literal shit compared to the other Eeee card arts
>>24782918
That's the problem of having different artists
>7 EXs (8 if Palkia EX and Golduck BREAK deck is included) from BREAKpoint are known so far
>4 BREAKs (All 5 if the above condition is met) have been known/revealed
So what other EXs do you think could be potential candidates?My gut is telling me Emboar and Togekiss EXs from the deck kit thing is going to be in
>>24782966
Chatot-EX
>>24782900
Any translation on that Vaporeon in particular?
>>24783107
It's shit
>>24783126
My dreams are now shattered.
>>24783107
the only one you COULD play is jolteon because it has a shred attack + 0 retreat
>>24782900
Wow all those arts look nice
Can't wait to get em in English.
What could you use for Palkia-EX other than Primal Kyogre and Mega Gyarados? Combined with Manaphy-EX Water is getting a ton of support.
>>24783140
Espeon has a really nice number for a shred attack and being psychic. 70 is 140 on Mew-EX and Sigilyph and 70+muscle band is 180 on Mewtwo-EX.
The first attack being colorless will likely be abused as fuck in Pyroar/Archeops Expanded.
>>24783198
Play it in expanded with Blastoise and Archie's.
>>24783224
But what's the point if Keldo-EX is a better partner for Blastoise
>>24783107
Vaporeon-EX – Water – HP180
Basic Pokemon
[W][C] Bubble Drain: 30 damage. Heal 30 damage from this Pokemon.
[W][W][C] Deep Squall: 130- damage. Does 130 damage minus 10 damage for each damage counter on this Pokemon.
Weakness: Grass (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 3
This is actually even worse than I thought. 3 fucking retreat and [W][C] for 30 with no decent effect.
>>24783234
You can use both and accelerating 2 energy onto Palkia from hand means you can accelerate 2 extra water energies from your deck onto Keldeo, then rush it in next turn.
[W][W] for 40 and +2 energy is really good for earlygame. You basically have 3 Pokemon set up from that alone.
Any thoughts on how to improve this deck? Hoopa is there only until I get a third Shaymin.
>>24782900
Remember how bad the original EXs were? Be glad these aren't that bad.
Help me make a Gallade EX deck, but this timeinclude no shaymin
>>24784208
So use Wobba instead? If you can't speed up then slow them down
>>24784193
I can't figure out if this is decent or not thanks to power creep
>>24784262
Even back then they werent the best.
So, recently I came into the possession of a Shaymin EX card (lucky draw from a tin). Now, I collect Water type Pokemon in cards, and this recent acquisition has made me think about going into actually playing the game instead of just fucking around looking at the pretty pictures. What kind of deck could I make with any or all of the following cards I have?
>x2 Seismitoad EX
>Wailord EX
>M Blastoise EX
>All current Swampert, Milotic, Manaphy, Ludicolo, Huntail other cards
I know how to play the TCG, but I haven't played it competitively, so Ill assume I'm shit. Any tips?
>inb4 look at the Pastebin.
I will, but I figured there was no harm in asking anyways.
>>24784327
lol
>>24784345
Just want to know what I can start building. I know I'll need a bunch of duplicates and probably another Shaymin EX, but I've got some expensive parts already in my possession, so why the fuck not.
>>24784327
How many Swamperts do you have? If you have at least 2 full evolution lines, you can try build a Seismitoad-Swampert deck, pretty easy to use and not so much expensive. If you like the item-lock type of deck, there's a lot of Seismitoad deck around more competitive, just google it and take a look. Also, be sure to take a full set of all the staples (VS Seeker, Juniper/Sycamore, Birch, Muscle Band and so on), they're the core of the game and you always gonna use it in every deck.
>>24784623
Birch, no. Double colorless energy, yes.
>>24784644
Yeah, DCE is obviously another staple, but so is Birch, maybe not a full set, but I usually run 1-2 copy of it in all the decks I play.
It would be a nice thing to list all the staples and add it in the pastebin, that would help new player a lot I think.
>>24784654
Birch is trash and we should not be encouraging people to use it in either format.
>>24784327
no point in stalling with wailord when you could deny items with seismitoad instead
M blastoise EX is shittier than any squirtle common card
that cards don't work together / at all
Seismitoad is good and so is the shaymin but you'd probably want two shaymin at the very least if you are running EX anyways.
>>24784660
birch is the second best draw supporter and you can only run four syca
>>24784670
"Second best" doesn't mean "playable." Players shouldn't be taught "yeah sometimes your deck will be consistent but every time you get tails you'll probably lose. Truly a skilled tcg"
>>24784660
>>24784670
>>24784685
Birch has one big advantage over Sycamore, which is that you don't discard. Since Lysandre's Trump Card is kill and mill decks are rising, I think it's a decent tradeoff to leave it up to chance since even if you only draw 4, you still didn't have to discard.
>>24784725
Discarding cards isn't the end of the game if you run high counts of your most important cards. Besides, if shuffle draw is something you value,play Expandedor play Judge. At least Judge can disrupt your opponent.
>>24784738
>hand 3 dce and 3 sycamore
>yeah this is no problem I'm running high card counts who needs shuffle supporters anyways
- you
birch draws 5.5 cards on average we don't have an oaks theory so this will have to work
>>24784738
>Discarding cards isn't the end of the game if you run high counts of your most important cards
You really underestimate how bad of a hand you can have at times.
>>24784763
Just run Lysandre's Trump Card :^)
Where does one report bad judges? :^)
>>24784623
Got two Swampert with the Growth trait. Got only a Marshtomp, but they are easy enough to find, same as Mudkip. Also got two Huntails, which I imagine could work for a deck that runs that Swampert?
>>24784763
>>24784771
This is a shitty mindset. "Well I'll trade a small chance of bricking with Sycamore for a 50% chance of basically conceding to my opponent. Logic."
You Sycamore away too many important cards, hey that's rough but your game isn't necessarily over - you have seven new cards to work with. You flip tails on Birch and neg yourself so hard your opponent just laughs and proceeds to beat you.
Also deck bricking should be heavily minimized by running high counts of Shaymin (or Octillery) and Trainer's Mail, and even Acro Bike.
![20151207_030116~2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7XAZBJ6.jpg "20151207_030116~2[1].jpg")
>go to loco cardshop to pick up a few break packs
>cardshop is selling a few old packs for $5 each
>sell a few cards to pay for them
>pull this
Isn't there an anon on here looking for this Zapdos card :^)
>>24782900
That vaporeon doesnt look too bad,
>>24784823
>card shop selling shadowless packs for $5
>you like an idiot opened them
>>24784835
They're not shadowless shitlord.
>>24784835
Well, he sold them to me for $5 since I'm always there.
My wife open the packs since she likes the joy of pull a rare card.
Didn't think they were shadowless, whats the differences?
>>24784807
so what do you do if your opponent plays judge then?
do you concede as well?
if you can't play on four cards your deck is not consistent
>>24784823
>Blastoise is Length 5'3"
>Zapdos is also Length 5'3"
>Mewtwo is taller, and weight more then all of them
Didn't know how much of a manlet Blastoise and Zapdos are.
In the cartoon, Zapdos is always seen huge.
>>24784864
Yes, being Judge'd down to four is an absolute nightmare, almost as bad as Hex Maniac, and potentially lethal turn one. But of course the opponent also has to be able to weather through the Judge so they're not just going to play it haphazardly.
>if you can't play on four cards your deck is not consistent
This is anecdotally and statistically wrong. Drawing into four cards without an established board position is an extremely dangerous scenario. You're essentially banking on drawing into a VS Seeker, Sycamore, Ultra Ball or Shaymin, which I'll grant you are all four-ofs in most decks (except Shaymin) but that's still a slim margin of recovery. And to put yourself in that position purposely, instead of just digging for your cards with Acro or Mail or Shaymin, is just dumb. At least if your opponent plays Judge it wasn't your fault.
>>24784157
Any help? Should I take this apart and build a different deck? I feel like this deck is too vulnerable to Aegislash and enchanced hammer, maybe switch reshiram for sesmitoad?
>>24784327
Wailord stall
>>24784823
Noice.
>tfw already owning a complete set of the first four editions and thinking about getting a collection of Base Set 2 just because
Every time I'm having fun with in this game this deck comes along to remind me that I shouldn't have any.Why is this shit allowed?
>>24785658
I'm building a zubat deck to beat those faggots. I can play non interactive bullshit too
>>24785658
>Expecting Pokemon TCG not have new stupid decks popping out every year to ruin the meta
>>24785710
But can it be fast enough to beat Night Marchand not lose to everything else?
why
>>24785903
Open the Plasma Storm pack anon gave you yesterday.
>>24785921
Nope, that wasn't where I got it
>>24785927
LIAR
OPEN IT
>>24783235
What about leafeon and jolteon? I don't see them on beach
How much are the promo Jirachi's on PTCGO? I just traded 2 XY packs in hopes of getting one.
Also why don't keep blisters on their online shop?
>>24785903
My first FA supporter was that card.
>>24784850
They aren't shadowless, don't listen to that shit-scrub lord, you done good opening them kiddo
Who /cube draft/ here?
>Mfw I got a good trade for a Shaymin on PTCGO.
>Mfw looking at the insane amount of things people are willing to trade for one Shaymin EX.
>>24786205
I wish mine were trade locked. No I'm not trading one for a bellsprout
>thanks tpci
i got that glitch again where the "who goes first" coin is spinning permanently the entire match.meme deck/10
>>24786224
Do you play Vileplume in that deck by chance or just Owls and Kangaroos?
>>24786238
No Vileplumes, i saw this deck on DarkIntegral's channel and i'm giving it a shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZiJ3LmsyQY
>>24785964
this 2bh
>>24786350
they released power decks in japan of them
Leafeon-EX – Grass – HP170
Basic Pokemon
[G][C] Leaf Blade: 30+ damage. Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 30 more damage.
[G][G][C] Nature’s Breath: 90+ damage. If there is a Stadium in play, this attack does 30 more damage and remove 3 damage counters from this Pokemon.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Jolteon-EX – Lightning – HP160
Basic Pokemon
[L] Swift: 30 damage. This attacks damage isn’t affected by Weakness, Resistance, or any other effects on your opponent’s Active Pokemon.
[L][C][C] Flash Ray: 70 damage. This Pokemon can’t be damaged by any Basic Pokemon during your opponent’s next turn.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Metal (-20)
Retreat: 0
>you cant even try a deck with cards you don't own against AI
>>24785830
I just built my zubat deck and I'm wrecking night march. Good investment. They kept dropping the psychic stadium so I could attack with bats for free and build a Lucario in bench. Deck seems solid
>>24784725
Oh waah waah things used to be so easy and now they are different.. These are the cards that are available and if you think flipping tails on a Birch is too big a risk then you are free to put different cards in your deck. Get over it.
>>24786766
Anon, the fuck are you on about?
>and if you think flipping tails on a Birch is too big a risk then you are free to put different cards in your deck. Get over it.
Are you retarded? Didn't you read that post at all?
>>24786335
I watched his videos a week ago for the first time
I like him!
>>24784883
>Zapdos is also Length 5'3"
That means Zapdos can't even give you a ride on its back.
>>24785562
Didn't get the chance to buy some of the older cards as a kid, and stop collecting around 3rd gen.
Came back to Pokemon cards this gen for 3 FA cards I wanted to have.
but I didn't stop after I got those 3 cards....
>Friend shows me his pokemon card collection, of mostly FA
>think they look cool, want to own a few cards like that of my own
>FlashFire just came out, and I want a FA Charizard card, to fill the void of never getting a Charizard card as a kid
>Finally pull it but want to get FA Venusaur and Blastoise
>Pull those still, and ready to call it quits
>buy a Plasma Storm pack for fun, end up pulling a SR Charizard, and then a week later, get another
>Start to get hungry for more cards, and wanting to make my collection bigger with more rare cards
>A year later, I have over 100 FA cards, 3 pages of SR cards, and over 200 EX cards
I want to get off this ride, but it never ends
>>24786929
Heh. I think I'll just go through the years and work myself up. Except I probably won't ever catch up since I'm collecting slower than the cards are getting released. I'm still trying to complete my gen 1 cards. Some Gym Heroes/Challenge cards are missing, as well as the Vending Machine cards and random promos. After that I'll start with gen 2, although I try to get gen 2 cards when they're cheap.
>>24786778
whoops, tagged the wrong post. Meant for the guy bitching about how shit Birch is.
He should try putting high counts of his important cards in
>>24784883
Machamp is 5'3" and 286lbs lmao
>>24787227
Can't beat that muscle density
>>24786366
oh, they are all terrible
>>24787227
Well, now I see why his speed stat is low.
What a fat ass
>>24787658
To build muscles like that, you do kind of need to gain weight. Can't build them off nothing.
>>24787658
Gotta eat big to get big.
>>24786982
My god, how I wish to go back in time and play with those cards.
I feel so empty.
probably worse than the poison lock one
>>24788372
Way worse
P Bad Posion Defending Pokemon is Poisoned, place 4 damage counter instead in between Turns
WP Dragon Pulse 60 Discard the top card of your deck
>>24788392
6 poison with a virbank is pretty cool
the art is... awkward? weird? creepy?, i'm confused about the message this card want to give us.
>>24789105
with that attack its clearly a benchmon, what does its ability do?
something about a name and one?
does it search?
>>24789117
check pokebeach
>>24789123
pokebeach doesn't have it yet you idiot
>>24789127
that is the point fagget
>>24789130
so no one in the world speaks japanese
and until beach somehow decrypts the secret letters through a miracle its impossible to know what the card does?
Is that what you are actually implying right now?
>>24789141
yes
>>24789141
I actually just sent some black magic spell to them to hurry up the process :^)
>>24789117
Not really sure, my guess is it puts your opponent's active pokemon to sleep. The second sentence says it can only be used once per turn though.
>>24789117
>>24789155
Google translate says
>Battle pokemon of each other, each I want to sleep.
So it puts both active pokemon to sleep and can only be used once per turn.
>that one deck that is super fun when it gets to go off
post it senpai
So any suggestions for doing the dragon challenges?
I only have Storm Rider atm and I just can't fathom how to make dragons in general work.
>>24789165
Yes, this is correct. The Ability is named Good Night Baby.
>>24789352
Emolga/Dragonite is a funny rogue deck to pull off if you want to do Dragon Challenges.
>>24789464
That actually doesn't sound too bad! Thanks for the suggestion.
If only emerald break Fug was dragon -_-
>>24789481
>-_-
Stop that
Also delta wild Fug is still much more usable than 90% of other EXes
>>24789105
fucking komiya, i hate this artist so much
Is it a dick move to stall the other until they run out of time? I mean it's their fault for taking so long to play`
>>24789840
>hating Tomokazu komiya
>>24789174
where are your special fire energies?
>>24789977
>no discard attack
>still playing hammer
what?
The zoroark break avatar set is available now.
>>24789105
Hypno – Psychic – HP90
Stage 1 – Evolves from Drowzee
Ability: Good Night Baby
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may use this Ability. Both player’s Active Pokemon are now Asleep.
[P][P] Zen Headbutt: 50 damage.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
>>24790173
fug
>>24790256
So it has sinergy with ehhm...
Any deck with Zoroak and float stones?
>>24790256
Looks solid
Chesnaught BREAK is really fun to play. It's hard as shit to set up, but once you have it, you can steamroll EX pokemon and get sometimes get 3 prizes per turn by hitting the bench too. Definitely won't win any tournaments any time soon though.
pic semi-related
>>24787877You can play with them anytime anon. You don't need to go back.I play with those cards every week.
>>24789977
what's it like being completely fucking retarded?
>>24789174
pic related, league challenges were fun with this idea
laserbank was also a pretty good inclusion here in place of altaria since starting lone swablu is no fun
Anybody interested in buying codes? I have old codes from Gen 5 era in 5 and 10 cards packs.
>>24791553
>Looks close to the deck I run
>but with more Tina
SR and FA, is what you call a real deck,
I don't use any other cards.
>>24790173
Where? Are they on the shop?
>>24787658
>what is muscle vs fat density
>>24792216
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-trainer-builder/trainer-store/ for the clothes
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-trainer-builder/ for the hair
Is there any way to give tokens to another account?
>>24790173
pic.
>>24789174
Shit outta luck against other steel or grass. Still winnable but harder. Weak to fire decks.
Oh lordy when the poison/false swipe combo pulls off though. So much rage.
>>24789174
Double +80 HP Muscle Band Entei is gonna be neat.
ime Puzzle – Trainer
Item
Choose 1:
– Look at the top 3 cards of your deck and put them back on top of your deck in any order you like.
– Choose 2 cards from your discard pile. Show them to your opponent and put them into your hand. You can only use this effect once per game.
You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
>yeah let's make meme march and toad even better because it can return 2 DCE now!!
>>24793697
Returning 2 cards isn't even the worst partit is, but you can also scry the top 3 cards of the deck if you only use the single effect for better Acro Bike plays too
>>24793697
Dowsing machine is back
Except it's any card
And it's free to use
And it's two cards
kill me
>>24793697
new translation
Time Puzzle – Trainer
Item
You may play 2 Time Puzzle at the same time.
– If you played 1, look at the top 3 cards of your deck and put them back on top of your deck in any order you like.
– If you played 2, choose 2 cards from your discard pile. Show them to your opponent and put them into your hand.
You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
>>24793732
oh so if you drop two of them at once you get the second effect
do you also get the first or just the second for both trainer cards?
that seems almost okay
you'd run 3 because 2 fucks your game up when one is prized
the third would be ultraball fodder or whatever once you draw it
>>24793772
>Do you also get the first or just the second for both trainer cards?
The latter, Time Puzzle basically worked like the Poke Blower/Drawer/Healer+ cards from DP Stormfront where playing 2 at the same time gives you a more powerfull effect. Either way I'd still run 4 since looking at the top 3 cards is still a powerful effect when you combine it with Acro Bike
Any good way to farm tokens?
>>24793889
play the game
git gud
Pokebeach doesn't have this translated yet, so here's the garchomp instead
Garchomp – Fighting – HP130
Stage 2 – Evolves from Gabite
[F] Assault Turbo: 60 damage. Choose 1 Energy card in your discard pile and attach it to one of your Pokemon.
[F][F] Biting Pledge: 80+ damage. If your opponent’s Pokemon is a Pokemon-EX, this attack does 80 more damage.
Weakness: Grass (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 0
>>24793996
>The first time a Fighting-type Garchomp is in the TCG
The attacks ain't that bad and you can use Strong Energy, Fighting Stadium, can be searched out by Korrina, Maxie'd out, but ...
>Grass Weakness
NOPE.jpg
>>24793996
This translation looks really wrong
Psychic’s Mind Reading – Trainer
Supporter
Your opponent reveals his or her hand. Discard as many cards from your hand as you like, then draw that many cards.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
>>24794029
Secret mission is back nigga
>>24794037
I don't understand why those two effects would be together. The discard and draw part alone is really good in certain decks.
Get ready for 5 or 6 gyarados-ex in one set
>>24794046
Because you may discard based on what you think your opponent might do. It sounds really good
>>24794046
So ...
SR (Full Art)
081 Gyarados EX
082 M Gyarados EX
083 Manaphy EX
084 Espeon EX
085 Scizor EX
086 M Scizor EX
087 Ho-oh EX
088 (Supporter?)
UR (Secret Rare)
089 Gyarados EX
090 M Gyarados EX (Perhaps?)
>>24794087
Umbreon?
>>24794103
It could fit between garchomp and nuzleaf. You'll know for certain if any of 85 through 88 is revealed.
i want that garchomp to be playable because it combines landorus' ramp with medicham's smashing idiots in the face
too bad it isn't:(
These are the gaps left in the list to be revealed
1-3: grass before seedot
5-6: grass between seedot and petilil
12: fire after camerupt / water before slowpoke
16-17: water between slowbro and gyarados
22-26: water between manaphy and froakie
36-37: psychic between espeon and sigilyph
52: fighting after garchomp / dark before nuzleaf
55-56: dark after shiftry / metal before scizor
61-62: steel after ferrothorn / any fairy / dragon before dragalge
69-70: normal after ho-oh / an item
81+: Full art and secret rare stuff that I don't care about
>>24794037
>raichu has little binoculars too
>>24794166
The twitter that Pokebeach linked to claims that the Meganium and Cradily lines are in the set, so 1-3, 5-6 slots could be those two
https://twitter.com/keiryou_papa/status/674441752187564032
This tweet says that XY9 has no Fairy Pokemon (?)
https://twitter.com/keiryou_papa/status/674440916518629376
>>24794156
>can be put down fast with maxie
>60 for just 1 energy
>provides energy acceleration
>160 for 2 energy if attacking an EX
>can use strong energy
>can retreat for free to whatever it sets up
are we just going to disregard it entirely for the weakness?
>>24794188
Hypno's art has clefairy, so it could be in the set.
>>24794211
>>24794052
>>24794087
>>24794103
>>24794138
M-Scizor is 87, so umbreon-EX is possible
>>24794279
I read that as "IRONIC RUSHER" for a moment there
>>24794279
What a tiny set. At least the US will get the Palkia/Golduck box and Marowak, hopefully.
>>24794279
This is the whole block between espeon and scizor. The final is Ex is psychic/fighting/dark/metal
#35 - Espeon-EX
#36 -
#37 -
#38 - Sigilyph
#39 - Trubbish
#40 - Garbodor
#41 - Honedge (P)
#42 - Doublade (P)
#43 - Aegislash (P)
#44 - Skrelp
#45 - Phantump
#46 - Trevenant
#47 - Trevenant BREAK
#48 - Sudowoodo
#49 -
#50 -
#51 -
#52 -
#53 - Nuzleaf
#54 - Shiftry
#55 -
#56 -
#57 - Scizor-EX
36-37: psychic between espeon and sigilyph
52: fighting after garchomp / dark before nuzleaf
55-56: dark after shiftry / metal before scizor
>>24794156
you can search weakness policy easily with korrina
>>24794279
>This means there is no Full Art Supporters in this set just like in Bandit Ring
Now I'd hope we get the "Even Lewder Skyla" in the English version
>>24793996
This might be okay with Rare Candy, but I think I'd stick to Gallade for Korrina/Rare Candy shenanigans
>>24794336
It's better with Maxie's
>>24794341
Maxie attackers are shit. Gallade works because you can slap on a DCE and OHKO while using a broken ability. That Garchomp requires two energies to attack while having none of Gallade's versatility. Its first attack is just Landorus with more damage and only 10 more HP for some reason. If it had like 160 HP, it would be better. No retreat is alright though.
More of the full arts. Pokebeach's image of the gyarados is broken and I can't find the source.
>>24794223
Your point?
the FA Ho-Oh continues the trend of 'fucking garbage EX with fucking sweet full art'
>>24794407
The only playable cards in this set are the trainers.
>>24794392
>red gyarados
>hooh
>espeon
>maybe umbreon
we all know what this means
the unevitable second gen 2 remakes are coming!
>>24794411
The same could be said for any set. That Manaphy at least may not be that bad in a Water deck.
>>24794419
I'm going to run it in my bullshit Lickilicky Delinquent deck for free retreat since I won't have to worry about Lysandre.
>>24794419
The same could not be said for most sets.
>>24794419
I had more than one moment where I was wishing for a blue darkrai
now I got one
pretty cool
>darkrai ex
im cumming
>>24794444
Are you sure it's an EX? The art doesn't look right.
Also, meganium line is in.
>>24794451
dude, its clearly an ex
>>24794354
>slap on a DCE and OHKO
What?
At best you'd do like 170 after band and stadium, which doesn't hit any notable non-weak EX kills since Yveltal and Lugia miss due to resistance and everything else has 180+. Anything else can OHKO non-EX because they're non-EX.
Maxie's can at least get on board first turn
>>24794451
It is, the holo effect matches the kind that regular EXs usually get.
The first attack has me worried though, if it's good it might see use thanks to DCE.
>>24794399
Clefable – Fairy – HP100
Stage 1 – Evolves from Clefairy
[Y] Moon Barrier: 30 damage. This Pokemon cannot be damaged by Dragon-type Pokemon during your opponent’s next turn.
[Y][C][C] Rolling Attack: 50+ damage. Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 30 more damage.
Weakness: Metal (x2)
Resistance: Darkness (-20)
Retreat: 1
>>24794466
The first attack is neat. It should've had 90 HP though.
Doesn't look too bad
>>24794477
Darkrai-EX – Darkness – HP180
Basic Pokemon
[C][C] Dark Pulse: 20+ damage. Does 20 more damage for each [D] Energy attached to all of your Pokemon.
[D][C][C] Dark Head: 80+ damage. If your opponent’s Active Pokemon is Asleep, this attack does 80 more damage.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: (x2) fighting
Resistance: psychic
Retreat: 2
Better than huntail/MGardevoir?
>>24794477
>>24794464
>DCE
>20+
>description has x20
PLEASE DON'T BE X-BALL.
>dark symbol
Actually, an X-Ball that only counts for dark energy would be really interesting as an anti-Dragon and Rainbow tech.
>Second attack hits for 80+80 under some condition
>>24794481
Nah, Gardevoir has acceleration via Xerneas to get a ton of energies in play and does 30x
Darkrai isn't nearly as strong and only counts Dark energy when every Dark Pokemon loves DCE.
>>24794166
Updated missing list
5-6: grass between seedot and petilil
12: fire after camerupt / water before slowpoke
16-17: water between slowbro and gyarados
22-26: water between manaphy and froakie
36-37: psychic between espeon and sigilyph
52: fighting after garchomp / dark before nuzleaf
56: dark after darkrai/ metal before scizor
69-70: normal after ho-oh / an item
90: another SR
>>24794491
the second attack could be usable with malamar
>>24794481
Neat, it might see some use thanks to Hypno and Zoroark (with or without BREAK)+Float Stone.
And I can't wait to see the Full-Art version.
>>24794491
>when every Dark Pokemon loves DCE.
Only certain ones do, Yveltal-EX being the big contender for that title.
>>24794503
I know I'm using the fuck out of it in Laser Expanded
>>24794506
Yveltal, Malamar, and both regular and Mega Tyranitar all use DCE.
>>24794519
Don't forget Zoroark
>>24794477
So it's like Huntail but only for [D]? Sounds useful for a late game approach when Yveltal and friends are all outfitted with energy
It needs a decent way of inducing sleep for that second attack though
>>24794500
pretty much the only fit for 56 is pangoro, which would make 52 pancham (scrafty with fighting scraggy isalso possible)
>>24794526
malamar is the perfect partner
>>24794526
I'm guessing it would be either hypno darkraiEX and Zoroark for clearing your own status
or
manectric yvetal and darkraiEX for the first attack
>>24794539
Manectric Yeltal only runs like 6-8 dark energy. You would need to run 8 and have them all on board to even do 180, with a muscle band.
You're better off teching it Dragonbox for the same number of dark energy, or fairybox for a consistent 100 damage dark attacker.
No more new trainers, the fat cat is hogging the final possible spot
>>24794571
fuck, dark patch hope now its gone
>>24794571
Do they at least do anything?
https://twitter.com/Chikuwa_V/status/674486153773342720
One of the leakers mentioned swanna and heatmor. 4 more water pokemon left.
>>24794588
i can bet my life that they are filler
>>24794596
Yeah, but they might be the stars of the TCG theme decks if they're not 100% useless.
kek
>fight some guy
>guy puts like 5 EX on his bench on the first turn
>he said "it's going to be fast" or some shit at the start
>guy is fucking me over with MGallade
>stall him with some shit like Lysandre putting uncharged pokemon with big retreat cost
>after a while he conceded.
Anyone else won fights you didn't deserve to win?
Neat art
>>24794618
every time i've ever won with this
I don't recognize the right psychic, the grass looks like the other half of meganium
>>24794618
btw, I got this. It just makes everything better
>>24794642
The grass was Meganium. Kricketune is in.
>>24794652
Gible – Fighting – HP60
Basic Pokemon
[F] Selfish Draw: Discard a card from you hand, then draw 2 cards.
Weakness: Grass (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Gabite – Fighting – HP80
Stage 1 – Evolves from Gible
[F] Sand Tomb: 20 damage. The Defending Pokemon can’t retreat during your opponent’s next turn.
Weakness: Grass (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Chikorita – Grass – HP60
Basic Pokemon
[C] Tackle: 10 damage.
[G][C] Regrow: 10 damage. Heal 10 damage from this Pokemon.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Meganium – Grass – HP150
Stage 2 – Evolves from Bayleef
Ability: Brute Strength
If this Pokemon’s remaining HP is less than 50, this Pokemon’s attacks do 70 more damage.
[G][G][C] Green Force: 50 damage. Heal from this Pokemon the amount of damage this attack did to your opponent’s Active Pokemon.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 3
Kricketot – Grass – HP60
Basic Pokemon
[G] Bug’s Sense: Search your deck for 3 [G] Pokemon, show them to your opponent, then put them into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
That kricketot attack is cool. The rest are shit.
>>24794642
garbodor
New Garchomp has awesome potential.
>>24794526
>It needs a decent way of inducing sleep for that second attack though
if only the new Hypno was a sleep-inducing benchmon and we could pair them with Zoroark & Float stone. wait..
The FA is pretty good
>>24794662
>6 card combo where 2 of the pieces have to be brought out in the right order and take 2 turns to set up
Oh that makes everything better.
New Latias-EX when? I need a few FA card to match the ROS Latios-EX line
>>24794658
Meganium's attack and ability are pretty cool. I'm kind of hoping for a break, or a mew that copies abilities.
>>24794674
you said 'decent', not 'game-breaking'
>>24794697
Even something like Memechamp has a decent 3-card combo way of inducing self-status. 4-card if you want to do it on the first turn. And machamp is still awful.
Using 2 bench, two stage 1's, a float stone, and 3 energies to deal 160 is really mediocre.
Once set up it'll be a rollover effect that you can use turn after turn while setting up whatever else to charge the other attack to brute force levels. Better than pairing with Malamar in this regard.
Its pretty good without being ridiculous as it should be. Good on TCG for trying to not just succumb to power creep and making it at least a little difficult to get going.
pangoro confirmed
Could a pairing of Palkia-EX/Manaphy-EX + Mega Gyarados or Primal Kyogre be feasible?
And goddamn there's so few new Fire-types thanks a fucking dicking PCL
Almost finished making my first standard deck just need to get a second shaymin.
I'm gonna make so many meme decks with the new trainers goddamn
>>24794998
no you are not allowed to
no fun
>>24793996
if not for the grass weakness Garchomp would have probably been the best card in the set and I still think it's up there
>>24795149
u wot
the grass weakness is hardly even relevant in the current meta and it's attacks aren't even that crazy as a stage 2
>>24795165
>OHKO'ing every standard EX for 2 energy
>korrina searchable
>zero retreat
>utility attack for 1 energy if it only needs to kill something small or half-dead
Garchomp will be one of the main cards, if not the main card from XY9 that will become part of the meta. Cap this.
>>24795166
>two turns of attaching
>on a stage 2
it's almost instantly shit m8
>>24795170
>first turn
>hit for 100+ and get a strong energy on something on the bench
>second turn
>kill absolutely any EX and usually any mega given fighting's damage stackers
well we'll see won't we
>>24795170
You can pull a Rare Candy with Korrina. But otherwise yeah, Grass weakness will sting and Garchomp only has 130 HP.
>>24795177
The day she rotates out is the day I cry
>>24795234
>Starter Set, XY, Flashfire, and Furious Fists are very likely to be the ones rotated out
>This means no Toad and Super Scoop Ups
>But also means
>None of that fightan support - Lucario-EX, Hawlucha and babby Landorus
>No Korrina and Fighting Stadium
>No Pyroar and Blacksmith
>No Fan Club (though Hoopa kinda downplays this loss)
>No Muscle Band
>No Startling Megaphone or equivalent (yet)
>No Aromatisse and Fairy Garden
Many do want a meta without toads and there's nothing wrong with that, but goddamn Fightning, Fire, and Fairy are fucked if they don't get some reprints of these or any new worthwhile cards leading up to August next year. And those are probably some of the more fun types I've used this gen
Going on how it wasn't legal yet in 2014, Furious Fists cards will only see play at two different Worlds tourneys at most when most will see at least three, right?
>>24795321
>Starter Set, XY, Flashfire, and Furious Fists are very likely to be the ones rotated out
>This means no Toad and Super Scoop Ups
and then 70% of the playerbase quits because they can't faceroll with toad/bats anymore
>None of that fightan support - Lucario-EX, Hawlucha and babby Landorus
>No Korrina and Fighting Stadium
Oh boy, people may actually have to think again if they want to win games
>No Pyroar and Blacksmith
Pyroar isn't good anymore anyway but Blacksmith kinda hurts
>No Fan Club (though Hoopa kinda downplays this loss)
Brigette and Hoopa-EX make up for it
>No Muscle Band
Good, never agreed with everything having an ezpz damage stacker
>No Startling Megaphone or equivalent (yet)
true
>No Aromatisse and Fairy Garden
didn't fairy sort of die out anyway
>>24795327
No Muscle Band means people will just use the new Basic-only tool that's coming out anyway if they can. Suppose the lack of it will encourage usage of other tools for non-Basics
Now that we got special energies for every type do you think we will have new special energies in the next sets? Scramble Energy or Double Rainbow Energy would be welcome returns imo.
Also, where is the support for evolutions we were promised? Only support I saw was Fighting Spirit Belt which is a exclusive basic support.
I just pulled 3 Ampharos EX in a row and one was FA. what is this ptcgo?
>>24796072
now a mega ex one, a giratina ex, and a lugia ex
>Tympole is the most useful pokemon in the set
>>24796072
Stop cracking shit sets
>>24796072
>>24796078
Do you really think we talk about pokemon cards here?
Shop's unusually late this week.
That bundle should have been taken down last night.
>>24797420
http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/36394-no-shop-bundle-today-dec-9/#entry428824
Oh.
>tfw playing Marowak Break
>>24797522
Works for me.
Although I love a good bundle, I recognize a need for a update is so much more thanks to the last update's debacle.
The sooner we get faster animations the better.
What present will we get in PTCGO for Christmas? Some packs? Some shitty avatar items? Have they done anything in previous years?
>>24797679
>Some shitty avatar items
Hey, I like my Santa hat.
It's proof that I've been around for a LONG time.
> Mfw all I need to complete my deck is the promo Jirachi
> Mfw they will never bring it back on PTCGO.
>>24797766
You had 2 chances anon.
TWO CHANCES!
Do you not get how rare that is?!
Just wait for the week before the next pack, that is when the sometimes redo old bundles.
>tfw my Japanese Vending machine cards still haven't arrived
HURRY UP JAPAN
I WANT TO PLAY THEM ON FRIDAY
>>24797766
All you needed was one and it was only 200 coins, no one to blame but yourself.
Gyarados FA looks sweet
>>24797766
What deck are you trying to make?
Sure it is good, but what deck would NEED it?
How much each pack/treasure chest is worth?
The new set is fucking horrible. All of the EXs are inferior to the ones we have now. None of the breaks will see play save Trevenant in meme Gengar decks. It added tons of luck-based disruption like Delinquent and Slowking, general bullshit like Garbodor and the belt, and an extremely situational item that acts as a mini Trump Card if you luck into two. All of the normal line of pokemon are not playable at all except Garchomp which is completely inferior to Gallade. At least breakthrough had some useful pokemon and decent trainers. At this rate the only worthwhile card that isn't pure annoyance will be Bodyguard Marowak.
>>24794907
Hydreigon makes no sense here. I'd make room for float stone/switch. Cassius is another neat option for picking up a pokemon because you can save special energy. Alternatively, drop a few other cards to play 4 super scoop up to abuse Shaymin as well.
GLACEON EX FUCKING WHEN?
>>24798330
you can stop playing you know
>>24798556
Why when I can be an annoying cunt with Delinquent?
>>24798556He is probably the same guy who ranted about BREAKthrough and spent time making that "poster" on why it is a terrible set
>>24798563
Breakthrough is actually a really solid set. Much better than Primal Clash and XY at least.
>>24798572
But Primal Clash had Gardevoir and M Gardevoir EX!
>>24798580
Mewtwo is better than it by far, and you also have solid non-ex's like Raikou, Magnezone, Zoroark, Gallade (the best two cards in the set), and Empoleon, along with fringe things like Xerneas, Yveltal, Granbull, Seaking, and Houndoom. PC really only had Groudon, Medicham and Gardevoir. Swampert is alright but too hard to set up consistently.
