Is it just me or priority got out of hand? Lucario, Rayquaza, Scizor, Pinsir, Kangaskhan, Mawile, Talonflame...
How do we fix it?
Introduce something else that will get out of hand.
Is it just me or boosting stats got out of hand? Lucario, Gyarados , Scizor, Pinsir, Kangaskhan, Mawile, Charizard-X...
How do we fix it?
Is it just me or Stall got out of hand? Slowbro, Gothitelle, Hippowdown, Chansey, Sableye, Ferrothorn, Skarmory...
How do we fix it?
>>24764835
Priority now just gives x1.5 speed for one turn. +2 is x2, +3 is x2.5 and so on.
>>24764872
Accuracy and evasion as base stats for pokemon.
>>24764947
all stat boosts now only last for 3 turns.
Is it just me or shitposting got out of hand? >>24764835, >>24764947, >>24764973...
How do we fix it?
>>24764835
Priority gives up STAB
>>24764973
The chance of recovery working on each subsequent use lowers like protect. This does not reset until the pokemon switches, this is also now applied to protect and its clones, they also work off the same counter.
>>24764982
Out shitpost it.
>>24764973
Been here since day 1.
>>24764947
Been here since day 1.
>>24764982
Get rid of /vp/. The only treads that aren't full of shitposting are the pokephilia ones.
>>24764974
>acc and evasion as base stats
SMOGON'S GONNA FREAK
>>24764974
>>24765125They better not mess up with No Guard mons and min those stats to max other stats
>>24764974
>Accuracy and evasion as base stats for pokemon
People don't actually think that would be a good idea, r-right?
>>24765144
If you want to kill Pokemon's chance from ever being taken as a competitive game seriously, yeah, it's a good idea
>>24765168
>Pokemon
>serious
I hope you realize that serious implies that it is currently on the level of, say, Street Fighter or DotA? I'm just saying that it would ruin any chance of actually having fun in the game at all, let alone PvP.
>>24765168
I'd problem end my life. This is all I have to live for.
>>24765168
>Implying it isn't already dead
>>24765144
>evasion, accuracy, and critical hit chance are derived from the speed stat
>>24765144
It would be more fun actually. Do people actually have fun with those "hopeless" situations?
I mean, the guy getting the sure kill is probably having fun, but the other...
>>24765179
>>24765182
I don't love competitive pokemon, but i'd say the potential is still there.
But throwing base randomness into all of it will kill it for good.
>>24765191
Winning due to hax isn't fun either.
>>24765191
>if im playing like a mental defective i should always have a dumb luck safety net like in my japanese animes!!
End yourself.
>>24765219
>He doesn't spam Double Team online
Forcing ragequits is so fun.
>>24765224
>I'm ruining any chance for either side to have fun but its OK because I'm le epic trole xDD
And now you know why people have a more enjoyable time on Showdown.
>>24765217
But it already happens all the time.
>>24765262
What does that have to do with making it happen even more often?
>>24765271
Because right now most of the hax happens offensively. Fireblast burned, Rock Slide flinched, Superpower critted, etc etc.
We barely have any defensive hax besides paralysis and for that you have to spend a turn using a 0 damage move.
>>24765291
I still don't see how this is supposed to sell "more randomness is good"
>>24765291
>most of your extra luck comes from actually attacking instead of trying to be a stallfag
why is this a bad thing
>>24765445
1 - what the hell this has to do with stall
2 - why is stall a problem
>>24765516
1) you are implying defense needs more buffs since attacking moves have lots of secondary effects. Defense is stally
2) it is literally playing the game by not playing. You are preventing the opponent from being able to affect you with attacks as much as possible. That is cancerous.
>>24765557
>by not playing
>You are preventing the opponent from being able to affect you with attacks as much as possible
?
>That is cancerous.
Here's that word again.
>>24765242
u mad phaggot
>>24764947
Is it me or has ridiculous BSTs gotten out of hand? Lucario, Gyarados , Scizor, Pinsir, Kangaskhan, Mawile, Charizard-X...
How do we fix it?
>>24765926
All stats reduced by 1.5 on every pokemon. This brings the difference between the big guns and the little guys down.
>>24765963
On this.
600 - 420 = 180. This is the difference between something like garchomp and mightyena.
600/1.5 = 400
420/1.5 = 280
400 - 280 = 120. The difference is reduced by 1.5.
Because damage is relative to the difference in stats, eg a mon with 20 attack hitting something with 20 defence is equivalent to a mon with 100 attack hitting something with 100 defence.
0 Atk Ledyba Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Feebas: 73-87
0 Atk Mew Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 73-87
This brings the overall difference down, puts more emphasis on EVs and is just overall better.
eg
0 Atk Mightyena Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 70-83 (19.6 - 23.2%) -- possible 5HKO
Before
0 Atk Mightyena Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 70-83 (19.6 - 23.2%) -- possible 5HKO
After
0 Atk Mightyena Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 71-84 (24.9 - 29.4%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
Solution for everything.
>>24766002
That's actually a really good post, GJ
Priority needs consequences. ExtremeSpeed has low PP, most priority have low damage, Pursuit and Sucker Punch have their quirks, Prankster only applies to non-damaging moves.
The agony started with Technician.
>>24766128
I actually think Prankster is more annoying because of all the shit you can do with non-damaging moves.
