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Is Touhou Puppet Dance Performance allowed here? Full translation
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Is Touhou Puppet Dance Performance allowed here? Full translation finally came out not too long ago and the game looks neat, instead of just being a Pokémon reskin they innovated on a lot of things and there is a lot of interesting combinations and "evolutions" to try. I don't really follow Touhou but looking at it just as a Pokémon spin off or something of that matter I've enjoyed it immensely. More than ORAS.
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Link?
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>>24756642
Is that MC a male?
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>>24756658
I've erased my browser history recently and forgot the link. I shall redeem myself by re-uploading it on Mega.
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https://mega.nz/#!vgAWiY6L

OP delivers
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>>24756886
Uhh, it's asking for some sort of key. I don't know why but here

YyJWoAAyEI7ALQ_80LcYlbTx0BNn5975hykpkvOkTTk
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>>24756886
>>24756894
You must be new to the whole Mega thing.
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>>24756904
I am, I made an account 30 minutes ago.
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>>24756886
Is this already patched+English patch?
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>>24756932
That's correct
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Why shouldn't I get this on Nyaa instead?
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>>24756934
Thank you OP.
You are very kind.
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>>24756886
I'm getting this error when i try to run the gn_enbu file. Am I missing something here? Anyone else with the same problem?
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>>24757016
I heard some people in the /v/ thread solved this by using japanese app locale.
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>>24757024
That fixed it. Thanks!
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>>24757024

What does that mean?
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>>24757180
It's a program called App Locale that let's you play Japanese games without having a Japanese computer or something around those lines. Not just for that but it's what you want to use it for. Simple enough, you download it, open it, tell to run that game in Japanese, and it does.
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>>24757198

Thank you
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Enjoyed it more than oras too. At E4 right now and it was surprisingly long and fun.

Post teams.
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>>24756886
I noticed the numbers are kind of fucked.
Any reason or fix for this?
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>>24757381
Weird. Try using Japanese App Locale if you aren't already. First time I hear of someone with this problem.
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>>24757390
Yeah, I'm already using it.
Are you the one that posted the DL link? If not then it's probably because of that.
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>>24757390
>>24757404
How do I do this with Windows 10?
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>>24757468
Use XP compatibility mode for App Locale.
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>>24757468

Download app locale from Microsoft's website, then right click the install file and change the compatibility to "previous version of windows" then install.
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>>24757777
>>24757786
Would this work too?

https://github.com/xupefei/Locale-Emulator
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>>24757024

Did this and it is still not working. I'm using Windows 10
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I've heard from some guys on /v/ that AppLocale doesn't work and to use Locale Emulator instead. That's what I did and it works perfectly.
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>>24757989
that's how I make it work
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Tfw you bought the game when it came out
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why did they deviate away from hacks? the art and music are shit
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>>24763354
Is this a new species of genwunner
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>>24763370

>is this a new species of 12 year old that doesn't understand what a genwuner is?
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>>24763432
>is this a new species of I will be nice and just call you a human that didn't get the joke?
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.
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>>24765015
>no separate mimi-chan
why

>>24756642
>no post-game aside kasen quest
at least in the next comiket will be a patch with news puppets, extra form and follow the trainer like hgss
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>>24757989
Can confirm that this works as a solution.
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I picked Flandre as the starter.

How bad am I going to suffer?
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>>24768687
gud taste

she has one of the lowest % to find
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>>24756642
How much 2hu knowledge does this require and how difficult is it to get running?
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>>24771244
You don't really need to know anything about it, and as far as I know, you just have to have a locale emulator or just straight set your computer to jap locale and it works.
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>>24763354
Music is cleaner and not limited to the clunky gba soundfont, the remixes are addictive, and hype as shit like the Final boss
The art is made to be cute, it was made 2 for EVERY single character (Puppet version, Real version) and is definitely better than no art at all.
The graphics are nice and the battle animations are more interesting than the GBA.
The new mechanics that are possible with a standalone game (Reincarnation, EVs distribution, relearn skills anytime), overall feel, and even online battles without using the shit/unstable vba link are great.

I seriously don't know what you are talking about.
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>>24771244
Touhou lore is a strong aspect of it, most of the characters will probably look like random girls to you if you didn't played the originals, which is not bad for the gameplay, but is bad for the experience I would say.
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>>24771415
>Music is cleaner and not limited to the clunky gba soundfont,

Not him, but sometimes restriction breeds creativity. Pretty much everything else is an improvement on the hack, but I really liked how it made the Touhou remixes sound like they were ripped straight out of a Pokemon game. If you didn't recognize, say, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PC6Kxmd4xo as Nitori's theme, you could easily mistake it for one gen or another's surfing music, and that's not really a feeling you get any more. There are a few nice pieces, like several of the trainer challenge songs, but for the most part it's fairly pedestrian and unadventurous remixes.
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>>24756642
I played a couple minutes and it looks very well made.

It feels great to know nothing again, I don't have any idea about typings, movesets, neither where and what I can get stuff.
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>>24773348
That soundtrack was one of the best things about Puppet Play. Cerulean City transitioning into Beloved Tomboyish Girl is pure magic.

Too bad one of the most common English ROMs replaced most of those tracks with more generic Touhou remixes.
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>>24756642
So, I spent some PP changing skills, are they unlimited or I fucked it up?

I changed my Udonge's ability from Precision Fire to Chaos Inducer.
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>>24757340
I have this problem too
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Oh jeez, I forgot about this game.
I played a partial translation patch in the past; is it possible to install the patch while keeping the old save data?
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Would keep playing but i only have a laptop that has difficulty even not turning off by itself so i can't play games that aren't perfectly optimized for more than a few minutes before my machine overheats and turns off.

I saw some other anons sharing the "non perfectly optimized" opinion but of course i'm the only one with the other problem.
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>>24775072
Just grab the save data and jam it in the folder for the full translation.
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Should i use my PPs right away? do they work like EVs?
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>>24776588
You can't take back the ones you use to allocate to your stats. It's probably a better idea to wait and see what you want to do with that particular puppet before you put stuff into its stats. For moves and natures, though, you can use PP however much you want.
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>download from OPs link
>extract
>run .exe
>Error and tells me to reinstall

What do? Where did I fuck up?
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I fucking love Sukuna. Did not expect such value from something that hangs around Chen and Nazrin all day.

Also bike this soon? Based.
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>>24776815
You get the bike after you deliver Rinnosuke's package to Alice. Also, Chen and Nazrin are pretty value, too. I can't really think of any touhou that's really BAD in this game.
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>580 BST
>Water Spout
>Moody

This seems balanced.
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>>24778041
>using a 120 cost character
I bet you use items too.
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>>24757340
rate my puppets

>I'm know, most of them are viable with trick room counterpart
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>>24756642
Your game is shit and Sage is better
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Can I please get a link for this I always wanted to play this but I Couldnt find an english patch
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PSA for those new to Japanese games: in order to play the vast majority you have to unarchive and run them under Japanese Locale or via Locale emulator. For further instructions google.

Also applocale is ancient trash so stop using it.

>>24778041
She's actually not very high on the usage stats. Most recent week has her at #36. Granted I'm not sure if the Japanese scene has any rules or restrictions.
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>>24779399

Download
>>24756886

Download Code
>>24756894

Locale Emulator
>>24757989
Came has to be run in Japanese Locale, but the Locale Emulator works too.
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>>24776726
use locale emulator
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>>24779795
He's right about AppLocale. It was made for Windows XP, and the only way to run it on 7/8/8.1/10 is to manually change compatibility settings.
it doesn't run on Vista at all
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>>24763354
>art and music are shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhZLOTAfEI
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>>24756886
>>24756894
My thing says it cant even unzip. It doesnt asks for encryption key either. What the fuck to do?
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THRED NEEDS CUTE
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>>24780621
search the /v/ archive for past threads and use the mediafire link I guess.
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>>24780678
I would love to, but my browser crashes whenever I try to open the archives.
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>>24780797
you should perhaps get a better browser or computer then. http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar
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Local Emulator.

Is there a way to turn it off if you don't want to use it?
I don't want it running all the time.
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>>24780815
Thank you a ton, but the files still refused to unzip. I guess its on my end then.
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>tfw grinding everything back up for netplay
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>>24780889
Are you using 7zip?
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>>24780411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv6QEGBzKoc
>only get to hear this once in the game
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>>24781490
At least sound very finalish TRUE SPOILERafter all she is the "evil" mastermind behind the puppet liberation front
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>>24781490
>Literally the Gethis of touhoumon
But at least she doesn't trap you in a fucking stone and traumatize your friend.
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>>24781965
she is too old to still doing that
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>>24782017
>Calling Yuuka (or any 2hu in the "old" category) old
Are you insane?
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>>24782305
It's ok, they aren't real. They aren't going to come to his house and render him into pulp for saying they're a bunch of old ladies.
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>>24782359
Still, you are insane, who cares if they are old when they are hot?
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OK I've got the game downloaded, but for some reason nothing's happening.

Like, looking at a video there's supposed to be a cutscene involving Yukari when you head up to Hakurei mountain but nothing comes up.
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>>24783458
Did you talk to everyone at the shrine and pick your favorite Touhou? There are a couple girls behind the shrine to talk to, too.
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>>24783543
Oh there are people *behind* the shrine?

Oh it's Renko and Maribel.

That was the problem. I feel a bit silly now.
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The moe art completely killed this for me
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>>24780411
the music's not bad, it just doesn't compare to 1.8's amazing music
I love the clever way they combine the original BGM with touhou themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHKSXKz6KE
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>>24783805
>Hating hemo's art
What a pleb.
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I wish there was a more active netplay playerbase.
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>>24780411
Is this supposed to be an argument?
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>>24763354
The art is infinitely better than the awful pillow shaded sprites the original Touhoumon had.
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>>24785614
I don't think many have actually finished the game.


Also for those interested, usage stats: http://gensou-suwako.com/correct/URViewer/URrank.php
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>>24785787

I beat the game, but haven't bothered with anything afterwards. Not like my team is any good.
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>>24785787
Still in the middle of it. My strongest doll is a Power Udonge at 48.

Also, that is a nice list. it shows what people uses as moves, held items, emblems and even stats.
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>>24785787
I finished it a couple of days ago, still reincarnating and grinding shit up for netplay
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Where do you even go after Moriya Shrine?

Sanae didn't help at all.
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>>24786048
I think you need to go underground, should be north of the human village behind a now breakable rock.
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>>24786048
>just got a new special ability
>paths blocked by the obstacle the ability solves have been presented to you right from the start of the game
>gee, where next?

You're why GF has constant handholding, broken bridges, and no exploration allowed, aren't you?
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>>24785787

The usage stats make me wonder how good certain items are. I love Dragon Amulet but so far it doesn't even end up on the radar of usage.
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>>24786282
Seems to me that a guaranteed significant stat boost (ex: silver hairpin) would be far superior to crit elimination
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>>24786318

That's the thing, I don't get how those items work. I assume it works like Assault Vest, so that means you can only use attacking moves. Anyways, I was wrong. Dragon Amulet is popular on Speed Luna, which is what I was using also.
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Just to let you know that held items are NOT consumed after battle in this game. This means that you can abuse rest+chesto berry or the power gems to your heart's content.
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>>24782305
Yuuka is OLD
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>>24780411
This sounds a lot to a music from fucking DBZ.

>>24783839
The entire TPDP OST is, basically, 1.8's OST. Of course they are missing some of the music. Hoping the next update will have it.
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I've just started playing, got my shit pushed in by Reimu after I forgot to save before going to Rt. 5

I picked Flandre as my favorite puppet, did I do well? Any tips for using PP?

Do you name your puppets? I did, except for Flandre.
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>>24786514

I haven't played much but I assume its just like Pokemon. Since it looks like you can change your moves or ability at any time with PP, the only thing that's permanent (until reincarnation, which seems to just be a way to breed without dolls having lesbian sex), is for EVs.

Since you picked Flandre from the start, all of her IVs should be A+, so what does she excel in?

If TPDP's Flandre is anything like Touhou Puppet Play 1.8's Flandre, I'd imagine she's a Glass Cannon, very fast and great attack scores but terrible Defense and HP scores. If she is just a sweeper, you'd pumping all of your EVs into her main Attack stat and her Speed Stat.
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>>24786481
I'd still contend that it's a step up from 1.8:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdKlWhfsYDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HLwSDjQwo (the nod to Cynthia's theme here is great)

It all comes down to taste though so eh.

>>24786514
Happened to me as well. Reimu is basically Gary Oak in this game. As for Flandre's PP, she's offensive so just dump it all in speed and her superior attacking stat.
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>>24786579
Reimu IS Gary Oak.

The problem is that Reimu is a bitch now. I'll probably go hybrid flandre because mine has a positive nature in speed, while both atk/sp atk are equal.
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>>24786514
Flandre's speed form is rounded and is a good sweeper. Her power form is really strong, but has subpar speed and is made of tissue paper. Up to you.

When you know what you want your puppet to be, dump as much ev's as you want, though these cannot be changed until postgame. You will easily reach 999 pp midgame, so don't be afraid swapping around moves and abilities on the fly.

This is a good info page for all your needs. I'd make sure what kind of puppet you want it to be before you pour ev's into it.

http://en.tpdpwiki.net/wiki/Puppetdex
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>>24786579
I like also Utsuho's theme because is a main remix of based TR HGGS theme.
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>/tpdp/
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>>>/jp/
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The hell.
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>>24786590
It has been confirmed that the expansion will turn Reimu into a true Gary Oak.
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What's the best starter?
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>>24787931
Literally all the 2hus, because whoever you choose as your starter gets all A+ stats.
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What system is this for, assuming you don't wanna mega it?
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>>24787931

probley one of the rarer touhous you only find at endgame, flandre is also super rare
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>>24787931
My waifu of course
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>>24787939

the personal computer
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>>24787931
You should choose your favorite girl.
Assuming you don't have a favorite, then I would recommend one of the following.

1.) A powerful wind or steel type, as early game is riddled with pesky nature, dark, and wind types.
2.) A puppet that you can't get until late game, something like Reimu or Shinki would work well.

You can look at http://en.tpdpwiki.net/wiki/List_of_puppets_by_location to determine which puppets can be found how early. I would recommend you avoid really early game puppets like Chen and Nazrin, but almost any puppet can be viable in single player and if your favorite is an early game puppet, by all means pick it.
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>>24787931
Depends on a few things, really.

If you consider "hardest to get", then late game high BST girls are good picks. The problem is, most of them suck ass in their early no-style form and have high EXP requirements to get you to 30. If you're going to autistically grind anyways, they would be the best pick, like Sariel, Shinki, Yukari, Yorihime, Toyohime, Kanako or Suwako.

If you want something that'll just help you plow through the beginning-mid game with ease, then you're looking for something that has good coverage and high speed in its base form, which is Aya, Remilia, Flan, Youmu, Futo or Marisa.

Suwako is probably my favorite for balance choice between the two.

Usually the only hurdle at all for people is the opponent Gary Oak-Reimu. Reimu as a normal puppet is only weak against Sound, which is fairly uncommon on "good" girls, and everything else is either neutral/resisted.

You can catch a Benben not too long after your first fight with her though.
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>>24787962
>Marisa
>Good coverage
I loved my Marisa, but early game she gets walled hard by certain puppets, for example every nature puppet in the game.
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>>24787977

>Metal Needle for the first half of the game
>Skill cards after

I don't see the problem, senpai.
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>>24787874
You just came from the thread in /v/, didn't ya? indeed, after that anon linked this thread there it has become quite active (for /vp/'s standards).
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>>24787986
I'm pretty sure Marisa doesn't learn Metal Needle, anon. Her attacks pretty much consist of just Electric and Light, with one Dark attack for slight coverage.
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>>24787931
One you can only find lategame.

Best candidate would in that case be Shinki (BST 600 post evolution, highest of anything without drawback abilities period, only available in the VERY LAST AREA before the equivalent to the Elite 4 at a 5% encounter rate). Sariel is also a good candidate (Victory Road equivalent only at a 3% encounter rate, BST 580 post evolution)

>>24787960
Basically the only ones that really suck in single player are Akyuu, Maribel, and Renko. Akyuu is usable if you go Assist (in which case she becomes basically Shedinja and thus can wall some things stone cold), Maribel isn't usable unless you're willing to grab something with a weather-inducing ability, Renko is so far past garbage that it's not even funny.

>>24787962
I ended up picking Raiko for my starter, mostly because I had no idea who any of these girls were (or that I was picking my starter) and just wanted to blow through as fast as possible so I could put my competitive battling skills to the test.

I think I might have fallen for Raiko at this point, and most of the things I rely on in regular Pokemon battling like spamming Dragons and Steels or great setup sweepers don't exist. At this point I'm just using whatever is cutest.
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>>24788009
Renko has an ability that makes her useful for setting up weather or field effects, but aside from that yeah she's pretty trash.

Raiko is pretty cute.
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>>24788009
>Raiko
Good taste.
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>>24779795
Moody.

She has fucking Moody, the ability that was banned from UBERS in Gen 5 because it completely broke that tier apart to the point that Bibarel could easily pull off 6-0 sweeps, and that was in spite of the Moody users having really shit BSTs and typing in general.

Suwako S is BST 580 and effectively Water/Ground typing, with base 120 special attack and base 115 speed to enable for ridiculous sweeps once Moody has done it's work.

In what fucking universe is that not overpowered as shit
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>>24788018
The thing is that in order for that ability to work, she has to live long enough to actually use the weather-inducing move.

Better off just using a Touhou with a weather-inducing ability (i.e. the equivalents to Drizzle/Drought/Sand Stream/Snow Warning), if you're going to bother with weather at all in this game.
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>tfw i'm enjoying this more than any PkMn game since Black2

I love the PP system, the puppet catch system, the fight system, the artstyle, plot, everything.

This may put me on until 3rd game, really. Can you play against others?
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>>24779795
Where can you find the usage stats?

>>24788035
I can confirm that Suwako S is busted as fuck, probably the best Moody abuser in the game.
Defense Kotohime is also surprisingly good at Moody abusing. Her bulk helps her set up, plus she can trap and use yawn.
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>>24788050
>Can you play against others?
Yes.
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>>24788050
>Can you play against others?
Yes, but not until you beat a certain trainer after beating this game's version of the Elite 4.

>>24788047
She's pretty useless for weather, yeah, but there isn't a puppet that can automatically set up, say, Trick Room, so she might be able to do that with the help of this game's Focus Sash.
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>>24788067
>>24788059
And I can reuse PP to change moves and all kinds of things, right?

Hot damn, this thing is too good.

Maybe even better than Pokémon
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>>24788057
Kotohime can barely do anything against stuff that walls her though.
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>>24788075
Yup. You can relearn any move at any time with PP. However, if you spend PP increasing a Puppet's stats, you can't undo that.

Of course, once you get to post-game, that won't matter much with the way "breeding" in this game works. Once you have a good selection of puppets, getting your first puppet with perfect IVs is fairly easy process.
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>>24788083
That's what passive damage is for. You could even run toxic if you were concerned about that.
That said, she does suffer against puppets with recovery moves, which for some reason is every bulky puppet in the game and then some. Still, guaranteed sleep is a powerful thing, especially in a meta that doesn't enforce sleep clause.
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>>24788050
Netplay requires dealing with IPs and isn't unlocked until postgame.

Just as a warning, the endgame is really bullshit. Spoilers for that (without any names) and for very VERY good reason.

You know how the E4 in the earlier games tended to be really hard? Imagine that, except they DON'T FOCUS ON A SINGLE TYPE, have perfect IVs, have EV investment (note that in regular Pokemon games only Battle Tower/Frontier/Subway/Maison opponents have EVs on their mons), and have generally good movesets. At least there's only 3 of them.

And then the final boss is a bigger cheater than Lance could dream of (her strongest mon has full EV investment in every single stat, which is blatantly impossible without hacking, is the only BST 600 in a game wherein the only things higher than that are the Regigigas and Slaking equivalents, and is LEVEL EIGHTY FIVE whereas if you've overgrinded your team might be poking at the 70s by that point)


The big question: How balanced is competitive gameplay compared to regular Pokemon
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>>24788083
nigga, she has baton pass, recover, moody and only one weakness. She can easily wall shit until she is decked out enough to bp her dank boosts.
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>Preach about the importance of using your favorites
>get the urge to break my own rules
help
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>>24787875
There is only one question:

Who is the bigger asshole: Gary Oak or Reimu
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>>24788141

competitive play is mostly speedy offensive types with the 3 good walls, lots of people just use their favorites
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>>24788168
How viable is stall in this game? Are there entry hazards for said stall teams to make the opposing side scream in rage?
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>>24788141
I find this post hilarious because I literally swept the final boss's team with Defense Reimu + Invoke Deity.

>The big question: How balanced is competitive gameplay compared to regular Pokemon

Eh. Certain puppets are just too strong, like Power Aya. It's a very offense focused meta, from what I understand. Entry hazards suck because the rapid spin equivalent in this game has a typing that makes it almost unblockable, although this game's stealth rock (which is steel type) can be potent. Some gimmicky strategies like Trick Room, Weather, and Stall can work, but for the most part you're best off just attacking as hard as you can. There are also very few baton passers, the only worthwhile one being Assist Cirno as far as I can tell.
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>>24788180
Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock and Sticky Web all exist in this game.
But spin blocking doesn't, aside from 2 or 3 puppets that aren't really that great anyway.
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>>24788180
The SR equivalent of this game is steel type. Steel is only SE on 3 types, but I'm not sure how it affects viability.
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>>24788180
Stall is terrible. Item clause makes it so you can't use leftovers on all your touhous, the stealth rock equivalent isn't as good as in the main games and around 80% of the touhous can learn the rapid spin equivalent so setting up hazards is pretty pointless.
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>>24788182
> the only worthwhile one being Assist Cirno
what about Defense Rinnosuke?
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>>24788180

stall doesn't really work since the few good walls still have resist holes and can get fucked super easily
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>>24788199
I dunno, he just isn't bulky or fast enough to pull off a baton pass set consistently. And I'm pretty sure his ability is bugged or something.
If you do want to use him though, he would probably work best with a bulky Focus Attacker and Duel Screen support. Power Sakuya seems like the best Puppet for him to pass to, being a powerful Focus Attacker with good bulk and access to powerful priority moves and a good attacking type. You could also go with Defense Suika, seeing as she has great all around bulk, high Focus Attack, and a good STAB draining move.
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>>24788009
Funmy how the three most useless 2hus are the normalfag ones (they can't fly or use danmaku)
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>>24788182
For reference, Power Aya has Skill Link, base 130 speed (only 4 things beat that out, and 3 of those suck ass), 3 moves that take advantage of Skill Link (two for the STABs and one that's Earth type and thus a better Earthquake in her hands), access to the U-turn equivalent (which is dark type and thus murders the normal type equivalent), has the equivalent to Extremespeed if you want to fuck over choice scarf users and the few things that can legit outspeed you, and can basically punch a hole through almost anything.

Weak to wind, steel, and electric, and she has the type coverage to hit all of those for SE anyways. Her only flaws are a mediocre base 105 ATK and the fact that she basically loses all her potency if you hit her with paralysis. In regular Pokemon, she would probably be banned to Ubers.

>>24788180
Stall is so dead that not even Smogon could revive it or consider it viable. There's no type with ridiculous numbers of resists like Steel was in Pokemon to enable easy walling, what few good walls there are in the game still have easily exploitable holes, item clause is enforced so only one mon can get Leftovers, and entry hazard removal is hilariously easy to the point of ridiculousness: the Rapid Spin equivalent is a wind type move so you can't stop it with immunities and is still an attack so you can't stop it with Taunt, and it even has a base power of 50 so it can do something resembling actual damage.

Oh, and if you know you're going up against a stall team, there's a move that you can use to basically make stall teams self-destruct in awe-inspiring fashion: Manifest [Suzaku], which makes it so that for the next 5 turns, any healing that would be done is turned into damage. And it's regular priority, so you can use it before they use Recover and watch them commit suicide before your very eyes.

Stall is so completely unviable and fucked over that it almost feels like it was deliberately planned to be that way.
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Would I enjoy this if my knowledge of Touhou is like stage 3 of EoSD and that's it?
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>>24788256
Oh, and the Rapid Spin equivalent is a TM with great availability.

>>24788263
You can enjoy it with no knowledge of Touhou at all
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>>24788256
I stall fine with Reimu and Iku. Just need to do more lateral stalling and not try to face tank.
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>>24788256
>Manifest [Suzaku]
fuuck, that'd be a pretty cool move to have in regular pokemon.
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>>24788256
Isn't stall dumb and boring garbage that makes games take forever to finish since you win by basically grinding your opponent into the ground oh so slowly? Isn't making that impossible a good thing for competitive play?
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>>24788256
Well the thing with P Aya is that Small Bits fucks her silly. Not to mention Defense Alice is also a pretty good check.
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Do they explain how the game works and such in-game, or am I gonna have to read a guide on shit?
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>>24785760
Which is a big irony because the artist i the same person that made the original sprites.
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>>24788256

How well does Speed Luna work? She seems kinda gimmicky, but fun to use since she basically has Stored Power, Iron Defense and Quiver Dance all in one. Kicked the crap out of the E4 at least.
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>>24788296

the game is pokemon, there are also npcs and signs that straight up tell you how things work, except for the eientei bamboo maze
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Name a good Sound type.
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>>24788327
I really like the sound turtles make when they fuck.
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>>24788296
It's basically like Pokemon except for the following.

>Type matchups are mostly different, see http://en.tpdpwiki.net/wiki/Type_Chart
>When you throw a "Pokeball" (called thread in this game) it will play an animation and surround a puppet with this circle if successful. If you knock out the puppet while the effect is active, you catch it.
>Everyone in your party get EXP and PP (which will be explained in a bit) for battles, but those that participate in battle get more EXP and PP.
>Puppets don't automatically learn moves upon level up. Rather, they have to learn them through a system that combines learning moves with EVs, called PP. You spend PP earned in battle to learn new moves or increase stats. You can get as much PP as you want, but there's a limit to how much you can increase stats.
>Every Puppet has a value called "Cost". Cost is a measure of how "Powerful" a puppet is, generally. The only in-game effect Cost has is that it influences certain moves, such as this game's Grass Knot, and high Cost puppets take longer to level up.
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>>24788327
Benben.
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>>24788343
Oh, I almost forgot.
>TMs in this game can be used as many times as you want, just like Gen V.
>"One Use" Items, such as the berry equivalents and Focus Sash, are restored at the end of every battle.
>Stolen Items are returned at the end of every battle, so you can't steal items but you can't lose items either.
>HMs no longer exist, and are replaced by key items.
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>get the boat
Why are there no random encounters at all while boating?

Hell, are there even any trainers in the water?
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>>24788363
Theres one
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>>24788363
>Hell, are there even any trainers in the water?
There's exactly one trainer in the water, but you probably faced her before you got the boat.
Personally I'm glad that there are no water encounters, fighting hoards of tentacool is never fun.
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>>24788327
Speed Miko seems pretty similar to speed boost blaziken.
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>>24788367
>>24788369
One in the entire game period?

That doesn't even make any sense
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>>24788381
Well there's only one 2hu that lives in the water.
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>>24788327
Raiko.

Also MikoS

>>24788363
Because water random encounters are dumb, repetitive, and annoying.

Also not really to the latter; there's a single one in Misty Lake but it's a mermaid 2hu and she stays close enough to the land that you can initiate battle with her without even getting the boat anyways.
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>>24788168
Note that using favorites is much much more viable here in general; almost everyone is usable in at least some way

So yes, it is more competitive than Pokemon.
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Is the translation anon lurking here? Did you know TPDP has a gaiden game about Yuki?
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>>24788327
I like Speed Luna. Problem is her stats are Vivillon-tier.
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>>24787875
Oh god.

A rival that is more smug than Gary, more of an asshole than Silver, and is so completely a jerk that she doesn't even see you as a proper rival but just someone in her way who has to get beaten down for the audacity of simply existing.

These guys know how Pokemon works better than the actual Pokemon developers at this point
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>>24788583
>more smug than Gary
>more of an asshole than Silver

How is that possible
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>>24788583
She was a great rival, I guess.

It's just a shame that they had to completely fuck up Reimu's character to do that.
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>>24788597
The first thing you see when you boot up the game is a warning that the characters may not be portrayed accurately.
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>>24788597
But Reimu is a canon jerkass.
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>>24788521
link?
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>>24788605
That disclamer is default for EVERYTHING fanmade in touhou.
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>>24788606
She's a canon jerkass in a completely different way than the game portrays her.

To put it simply, she feels too cold.

>>24788605
I know, but it's nice when people put in the extra effort to make characters feel as they should, you know?
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Just to check, is this actually the mythical good Pokemon fangame, or is that hope still a myth
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>>24788636
Kind of, but we'll see what the expansion adds.
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>>24788612
I am on phone...on an old model, just go to youtube and search "TPDP gaiden yuki-chan's training", this gaiden game already had the "different expresions" and expansion will add to the main game.
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>>24788643
Dammit, change that "and" for a "that".
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>>24788636
Level design and obviously graphics are kinda shitty but other than that it's really good, yeah.
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>>24788649
>graphics are shitty
I think the game looks just as good as any of the Gen III games. Plus animated battle sprites.
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>>24788649
Yeah, level design is pretty confusing at times (worst offenders being the Scarlet Devil Mansion labyrinth and the Victory Road equivalent, although Victory Road being a confusing clusterfuck is to be expected and you get really good things in the dead ends like a Combat Handbook or the skill card that teaches the game's equivalent to Earthquake) and the Bamboo Forest puzzle is a complete nightmare (I stumbled into the secret area by sheer accident trying to get back through normally and I have no idea how the fuck you're supposed to find it normally), but the major routes are straight forward as hell and a lot of annoyances in regular Pokemon are absent (boating on the water has no random encounters or trainers to deal with, wild puppet variety is drastically better than in regular Pokemon, no bullshit strength puzzles, HMs are attached to items rather than moves and outside of the boat are almost never needed)...

Graphics are fine though, nothing to complain about there.
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>>24788676
>alt costume

What
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>>24788721
You know shinies in regular Pokemon?

Rather than being hilariously rare encounters, here they're just alternate palettes you can buy for 3000$ at the tailor in the Human Village.

You can choose between the default colors, the alternate colors, and an alternate costume (for example, Futo becomes a bird, and Raiko will be with an old-fashioned drum rather than the modern one she usually has)
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>>24788721
After a certain section of the game (I believe it's after you finish Eientei, but I could be wrong) a costume shop opens up in the Human Village. There you can buy costumes for your puppets. Every puppet has one alternate coloring and one alternate costume.
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>>24788735
What the fuck that's so accessable

How painful is breeding in this anyways, on a scale of 1 (Gen 6 with Destiny Knot) to 10 (Ruby/Sapphire)
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>>24788751

it is even easier than gen 6
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>>24788751
-8. Reincarnation is so ridiculously easy and fast it makes Gen 6 breeding look unbelievably slow in comparison.

Basically, imagine gen 6 breeding, except instead of running around waiting for them to lay and egg and then running around more for it to hatch, you just press a few buttons and you're done.

There's a Destiny Knot equivalent for IV passing available through a post-game sidequest that you should beeline for immediately.

It's still pretty RNG based and there is a cost, but that's why saving and resetting were invented.

It took me days to get my first completely perfect IV Pokemon in Gen 6, and that was using a blatantly hacked perfect Ditto ported over from Gen 5. It took me about 20 minutes to do the same here, and having that will make future reincarnations even easier.
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>>24788751
Perfect IVs are incredibly easy to get and are visible, there are items that let you choose your puppet's nature, and "breeding" It's called reincarnation in this game, and instead of making a new puppet, you basically just reset your old puppet back to level 1, with new IVs. can takes seconds once you have it set up.
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>>24788785
>>24788797
Oh my god I think I'm salvating at this.

I thought fangames only had dumb and edgy plots with unlikable characters and horrible game design, not actual improvements on what regular Pokemon games do

Am I dreaming
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>>24788802
Well, I mean, Touhou Puppet Dance Performance's plot is pretty dumb, but it's not really bad enough to be offensive in any way, all the characters with one exception are fairly likable, and the game isn't really edgy.

But yeah the gameplay is very solid, the only thing that's missing is post-game content, but the upcoming expansion looks like it'll be adding battle tower so that will really help things out.
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>>24788643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSage1D2kns

Fuck, that's pretty cool. Like a battle factory, but with plot.
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>>24788832
I wasn't paying attention to the plot by the end, what was the cause behind the puppets, the demon goddess thing I fought for the final boss?
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>>24788872
Yeah. Basically she (her name is Shinki, by the way) got really bored and made dueling puppets based off people she knew for fun, then the puppets started to leak out of her world into Gensokyo. When you defeat her at the end of the game, she promises to stop making them, and the population of puppets starts to decrease as everything goes back to normal.
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>>24788872
Yeah, it was Shinki's doing.

Her motivation? She wanted more cute things in her world, made the puppets for that reason, and they grew so numerous that they eventually just started popping up in Gensokyo.

Yes, that is the entire reason. If you wanted something edgy, this is not the game for you
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>>24788892
I wasn't paying attention because I'm used to fangame plots being dark and edgy bullshit with horrible writing and massive amounts of violence/blood/death, not light-hearted adventures wherein nothing really bad happens and almost everyone is polite and kind.

Probably should have realized something was up after Makai ended up being a bright and pretty place rather than the dark and terrifying place I was being led to think it would end up being.

Goddamnit, why is this fangame so fucking GOOD
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>>24788916
Because it's fun and cute.
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>>24788947
Just reminder, though, cute things are fine but you might don't want to bring /jp/ or /a/-tier crowd here so be careful.

It's Touhou, after all.
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>>24788057
http://gensou-suwako.com/correct/URViewer/URrank.php
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>>24789074
>Speed Utsuho is both the most popular puppet, and the highest rated
Well color me surprised.

>Power Aya has the third highest ranking
No surprise there, although I'm surprised that Defense Mamizou, of all puppets, beats her out.

What really surprises me is that number 1 has a has a move that fucks over buffing moves, and number 2 has unaware. Maybe buffing is more potent than I thought?
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>>24789159
Def Mami is neat stuff

110/110/70 defenses + 10% damage reduction (slow tempo) + 50% increased FoDef or SpDef makes for one hell of a bulky puppet

Getting sucker punch and knock off coming from 110 FoAtt is pretty cool too.

Come to think of it I should scour Nicovideo to see if there have been any tournaments.
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>>24788916
Maybe because the same person that made original hacks worked on this.
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Oh my god FutoS is the best thing

It's like Starmie except better in every single way

Please tell me she can learn electric type m
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>>24790475

All she gets is what's basically HP Electric. At least you don't have to breed for it though.
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>The expansion will add something that is like the battle tower
Touhoumon already has better postgame than fucking XY and ORAS, you can rematch almost everyone.
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I plan on trying this out, No experience touhouwise but it looks really fun,just gotta learn all the new types ,weaknesses and strengths
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>>24790611
>following pokemon/puppets
>battle tower
>all the general improvements of mechanics over pokemon
>sumireko

goty
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>>24788323
There is literally an npc telling you a hint on how to solve the bamboo maze.
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>>24790626
>Sumireko
>No clownpiece
Japan doesn't even like her.
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>>24790654
she's in too i think
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>>24790661
All the newhus are in, the artist made new art for all them (and hecatia is his favorite, seriously, he is obsessed with her).
You can even see all them in the expansion trailer.
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>>24790622
You don't really need to know about the characters to play the game. Looking into them will help in type-guessing on sight however.
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>>24790673
The two new bunnies looks cute though. The one in the white coat looks nice too.
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>>24790611
>plus mima appear as character
oh man, I can't wait
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>>24790611
The real question: Can you fight Raiko
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>>24790673
Is that one on the right juggling planets?
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>>24790673
Wait, I've seen this thread for days not have not paid it any attention.

Are you meant to tell me that whoever made this game is THAT Hecatia guy?

Fuck. I love Hecatia and I love his pictures of hers. I now have an excuse to play this. When does the update comes out?
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>>24790777
The Earth, the Moon, and Gensokyo/the Other World
Nice lucky 7's by the way
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Someone host for fun times testing a character nobody else will ever use.
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>>24790779
Later this month, but translation anon says it will fuck up the English patch, most likely they have to start from zero.
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>>24790822
Wait, really? How, uh...how does she do that?
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>>24788916
Yeah the cool thing about Touhou is that all the grimdark shit happens off screen.
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>>24790475
>It's like Starmie except better in every single way
It's incredible how much Fire coverage helps.
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>>24790883
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Hecatia_Lapislazuli
>Hecatia's ability allows her to exist on Earth, the Moon, and the Spirit World all at once.
They aren't the actual Earth, Moon, and Spirit World. They switch where her bodies exist.
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>>24790779
You couldn't tell by looking the art? is his style, just in chibi mode.
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That was easy
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>>24790923
Non-chibi art of the same character.
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>>24790857
Damn, that's a shame. Will it even fuck up the saves?

>>24790923
It's very obvious now that I've realized it but it escaped my mind somehow before.
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>>24790938
Tranlastion anon says that no, if it fuck it, he will "push his arm though his throat in frustration".
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>>24790938
I heard there will be something will be saved
But it will change whole games so probably not much
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>>24790920
I see, so they're more symbolic of the ability to have multiple bodies to swap between in those places?
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>>24790899
Wait it gets fucking Fire Blast ahahahahahahaha holy shit why are you not in actual Pokemon FutoS
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>>24790965
Sort of. I'd say they're more symbolic of the three places she rules over. Earth's Hell, the Moon's Hell, and the Spirit World's Hell.
Although she also switches the orbs when she swaps bodies, so they probably represent that as well.
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>>24790611

how do you rematch people in TPDP? Is there a key item like the vs seeker you get eventually? I am going to the SDM and I would like to get more exp for my freshly caught puppets
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>>24791081
Postgame, talks to the characters again (i am not sure but i think the rematches reset when you beat the E3 again)
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Is there a Shedinja equivalent in this game? Since items are recovered at the end of battles, seems like a viable option.
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>>24791120
Assist Akyuu
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>>24756642
What's the best 2humon to play on DS or GBA?
Got a DSTWO but I'm still having my computer at the shop until Wednesday.
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>>24791120
this girl in Assist style.
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>nobody ever netplays
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So how important is being hyper-competitive in this

Do people play in the usual Smogon style or is it just "use your favorite waifus"
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>>24791172
In singleplayer? You can play nearly any puppet and get away with it. Just make sure you have a diverse team, otherwise you'll get your shit stomped every once in a while.

In multiplayer? Probably, but the meta here is so underdeveloped that it doesn't matter much.
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>>24791188
Nah, even the multiplayer is just "use your favorites waifus". Being hypercompetitive just means people won't want to play against you as much in the future, and with a few exceptions basically everyone is about even in strength.

Pic related, an unstoppable monster
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>>24791213
That's a weird sex position.
Is it in the Kama Sutra?
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