>Next Time on DEATH BATTLE
thoughts?
Wargreymon wins easily
If they limit it to just charizard v greymon it would be inyeresting. Shit, even if charizard goes mega vs greymon i think greymon would win but would be a very close match.
Charizard may only have a chance against simple greymon, anything above destroys him.
Charizard.
Wait, they're pulling a Batman?
>>24755653
It's impossible for Charizard to not win. Not only does Charizard have wings, he can also mega evolve, a quality that Greyman don't have.
Most Champion Digimon are physically stronger than a fully evolved Pokemon, but I'm sure they'll pull some bullshit to make the fan favorite win. Death Battle either pisses off or jerks off the normie fanbase, there's no real middle ground.
>>24755937
>>24755944
It may depend of them having or not a trainer/tamer. If they do, they will pull something among the lines of "Charizard kills Tai and WarGreymon reverts to Agumon".
>current year
>people still go to ScrewAttack
>>24755996
>Death Battle still exists
>James Rolfe still exists
>Top 10's still exist
>CollegeHumor still exists
>Fucking TGWTG still exists
>Chris Chan still exists, and is actually enjoying a resurgence in powerto be fair, I guess, they want the income, so they milk the cow for as long, hard, and intensely as they can.
>>24755653
Poor Charizard doesn't stand a chance. Digimon even as early as the first season is obviously leagues beyond Megas.
Matching up Pokemon against Digimon is just full retard in the first place. This shitty feud ended long ago.
>>24755960
Not sure if that's Mimi or Irisviel
It will be good to see them killing shitzard again.
>>24756087
I don't think James does a lot of new AVGN episodes anymore. Whenever I see him upload anything it's usually something else.
Did some compilations of the different seasons, but that's about it.Death battle is retarded though.
>>24756198
Hating Charizard just because he's popular when he's actually something good unlike most other shit isn't going to make you cool.
>>24755944
>I'm sure they'll pull some bullshit to make the fan favorite win.
From what I've seen they usually pull BS to make the fan favorite lose.
Is this regular Greymon or GeoGreymon?
>Turns into Metal Greymon
>It's now Steel type
That is how Charizard wins when he shouldn't.
>>24756599
Pretty sure Metalgreymon has tanked shit that destroys mountains. A little of his own attribute won't do him in.
It's pretty much confirmed that it's gonna be Red & Charmander => Charmeleon => Charizard => Mega Charizard X vs Tai & Agumon => Greymon => MetalGreymon => WarGreymon.
So yeah, charizard is fucked.
>>24755653
>greymon
>isn't grey
>>24756880
Tai is a shit trainer, though. They'll say Red is a far better strategist or something and say that even with less power, Charizard still outsmarts and outmaneuvers War Greymon.
To be fair, Tai really is a shit strategist and kind of a moron.
yfw This Happens
>>24755655
wrong,stunfisk master race.
>>24755655
Hasn't Charizard pulled off some pikachu thunderarmor bullshit itself?
Also, I recall Greymon getting its ass kicked by Gatomon of all things.
>>24756198
Yeah just like Gaara killed Toph. Oh wait
It's like you guys don't understand their mode operandi now.
I went to SGC last year, and ended up talking to the guy who started DeathBattle. As much as I think the show has become a steaming pile of "beating a dead horse", he actually does put a lot of thought into it. This was like, right after they did Superman/Goku round 2 or what the fuck ever (which was just fanboy jerk-off), and he really went into depth about the whole thing when I talked to him. It may look like BS, but I think they at least take it seriously internally, so that's kind of nice.
Not that I think this match-up would happen. Besides the Goku bullshit, I don't think they've ever repeated a character on DeathBattle, and they already used Charizard, so I don't see it happening.
>>24757014
Batman fought Spiderman and Captain America. Leonardo fought a Battletoad and his brothers.
>>24757014
The match-up will happen anon. It was showcased on today's Death Battle of Green Arrow vs Hawkeye.
They have a reason to do it anyway. Digimon Tri, that is. And since they are the most well-known "monster" franchises, they are going to make them clash.
>>24756936
That's ridiculous. Wargreymon is a blatantly highly evolved beast to the point of being humanoid and can throw a fucking miniature sun. He's no snail either. He trades all that bulk from previous forms for pure power and advancement.
I love both Charizard and Greymon and I see exactly how this would play out.
>>24757147
You know who would be a good match for Greymon?
Metal King Slime
How did fucking Wargreymon job to Piedmon again?
I want to make sure Charizard wouldn't have breezed though him either because you know damn well DB always brings up certain defeats. Mega Charizard X is probably the closest thing that could compete with Greymon anyways and there's no real list of feats for it. He did get his ass kicked by the superancients after all and I'm sure Alain isn't a shitty trainer either considering he only needs to use one Pokemon. Meanwhile, what level of Digimon could Groudon and Kyogre take on as Primals?
>>24756983
Gatomon has ALWAYS been the same level as Greymon.
>>24757389
They were both the same level except Piedmon overdosed on plot armor for a while then Angemon got the plot armor because they had to shill his new evolution before the show ended.
>>24755653
>they played the kanto intro with mewtwo
>next battle doesnt have mewtwo
Fuck that. Oh well, i'm pretty sure Greymon is getting the win here.
>>24757487
Still a shit
>>24755653
>mfw Charizard will win
I'm not even a digimon fan, but this fight is going to be so shitty and predictable it hurts.
>>24756554
AHEM, LIKE GOKU VS. SUPERMAN.
>>24757626
Both are shit
I don't see why anyone thinks Charizard can win. Anyone with knowledge of both series knows Charizard even at his best is currently outclassed. Screwattack can't bullshit out of the insane gap between Charizard and something capable of fighting demonic towering monstrosities like Venom Myotismon like Wargreymon, which you know is going to show up. Compared to Charizard who even as a Mega only just barely managed to defeat Mewtwo, which was basically an underdog moment.
Charizard is an iconic classic ultimate form of a lovable fire lizard close to people's hearts for what he represents with his growth who has his moments every so often. Greymon is a champion that pushes to become as tough as Tai or whoever else needs him to be to protect their friends and defend both worlds resulting in crazy shit like ShineGreymon that regular Pokemon definitely can't take on.
Wait 20 years until he gets a Mega with lightspeed movement and stardust powers or some shit. He still jobs to GeoGreymon at the end of the day.
>>24755653
Isn't that the youtube autism shit where some idiot spouts random combinations of canon and headcanon nonsense until his favorite character "wins"?
Damn salty dbz fanboys are everywhere these days.
>>24757821
Because Superman is a worse character than anyone in Pokémon. Even Zinnia.
>>24757825
And Goku is better how?
>>24757825
It's not like either Goku or Superman are been close to the most powerful character ever.
Hell, this guy would stomp both of them simultaneously in less than a minute and even he isn't unbeatable.
>>24755653
Alright lets be faire is there a way that charizard could win this fight?
>Watching DB after the Gaara/Toph Debacle.
Hue
>>24757894Kami Tenchi
>>24757825
Said the anon who has never read Superman in his life
Will there be Megavolutions and Digivolutions?
>>24757894
I'm fairly certain neither Goku nor Superman could defeat gold A.M.A.Z.O
>This is the Season 2 Finale
How are they gonna build this up?
Goku vs Superman was hyped up with proverbs from their respective countries before the two's preview analysis and the episode itself was a 32 minute long episode with in depth analysis before and after the battle that took days to research according to them. The fight itself was the greatest at that point, with the CG being far more smooth than Link vs Cloud. This feels more like a regular episode if anything.
I can't see them making Charizard vs Greymon presented like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA
>>24757945
The trailer showed Charizard going Mega X and Agumon just going into Greymon...So one of two things will happen:
A) They will make Charizard seem way more powerful than it is, and allow it to go Mega X (because muh durgans) while downplaying Greymon's digivolutions or
B) They didn't want to give it all away up front and show Agumon warp to WarGreymon in the trailer. He'll still do it in the DB, like the Goku VS Superman fight had Goku go through all 4 SS forms.
There's no way Charizard can win, even Mega X. With WarGreymon's Dramon Destroyers, and Chrome Digizoid, there's not really much Zard X can do against it.
>>24757945
Why else would Red and Tai be around? The fight won't even be worth it without both of them to help power up.
They also explicitly showed both Mega Charizard X and WarGreymon.
>>24757959
>That collaboration list
I have feeling they are going to collaborate with Bulbapedia if they are really gonna make it Goku vs Superman level
>>24757894
Wow... Sounds like a bad fanfic.
>>24758014
Please, Demonbane makes Mary Sues check under their beds.
>>24758036
Wait, THAT bad?
>>24757277
Can't touch this.
>>24758094
no, metalblobbosmon
>there are people on /v/, /vg/ and /vp/ that watch this stupid shit on youtube
Why
>>24758127
Guilty pleasure to be honest
I'm a sucker for Who Would Win arguments and sprite battles.
>>24758134
This.
>>24757894
I can't tell if that's really cool or really dumb.
3 Story T-Rex vs 6 ft dragon
>>24758188
It's meant to emphasize how dumb powerlevel debates are. By saying "Fuck it, everyone wins. Even the ones that lose. Even the ones that don't exist. Even the ones that can't exist. Etc." Elder God of Justice and Hope. It is the fictional concept of good defeating evil.
Demonbane is silly and awesome.
Wouldn't the Royal Knights be able to wipe out all the Legendary Pokemon? and the Royal Knights aren't even God/Demon type digimon
>>24756989
In that case, wouldn't Greymon win since he would be the unpopular one?
>>24756599
>Charizard surviving a nuclear Fall out.
What are some ways they are going to bullshit?
>Dramon Killers only kill Dragon Digimon
>WarGreymon's greatest feats stem from his opponents being a dragon
>>24758227
Probably.
And they're not even close to true top tier.
>Wargreymon literally have weapons made to kill dragons.
>>24758235
>Mega Charizard X
And then Charizard loses.
Death Battle: Charizard wins because Wargreymon lost to Diablomon.
mark my words.
>>24757993
also need to collaborate with Wikimon.
>>24758188
It's from a hentai Visual Novel about a man with a comically oversized penis hanging out with a large breasted nun and a loli that is actually the necronomicon who pilots an overpowered mecha. It's cool and dumb both at once.
>>24758242
Would Charizard beat Diablomon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yCFFL7rcUw
>Greymon doesn't evolve
>Metal Greymon is it's own species as oppposes to a Pokemon's Mega Evolution.
>>24758256
>Forgetting the best part
For shame.
Seismic Toss
>>24755653
The only way charizard could win is if they include feats from all the pokemon animes and manga.
>>24758275
>A six ft dragon seismic tossing a 3 story dinosaur.
Sure buddy.
>>24758279
Anything noteworthy?
>>24758284
Green's Charizard learned Blast Burn
that's about it.
>>24757929
>watching DB prior to the Gaara/Toph debacle
kek
>>24757929
>>24758295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ugebzq3juE
>>24758295
>>24757929
So good thing I only watched the Gaara/Toph Debacle
>>24758281
The strongest dragon warrior whose body is clad in armor of the super-metal "Chrome Digizoid", it is the ultimate form of Greymon-species Digimon. Though it differs from the gigantic figure seen in Greymon-species Digimon, and has the form of a Man-type, it has rapidly improved its speed and power, and it is likely impossible to defeat it with the attacks of a Perfect Digimon. The "Dramon Killers" equipped to both of its arms exhibit immense power against Dramon-type Digimon, while simultaneously being double-edged swords that put its own life at great risk. Also, when the shells equipped on its back unite into one, they become the "Brave Shield", which is a shield of the strongest toughness. It is said that the moment that a true hero among veteran warriors awakens to its own mission, it evolves into War Greymon. Its Special Move is taking all of the energy within the atmosphere and concentrating it into one spot, then firing it as an extremely dense, high-temperature energy shot (Gaia Force).
>>24758333
>Its Special Move is taking all of the energy within the atmosphere and concentrating it into one spot, then firing it as an extremely dense, high-temperature energy shot (Gaia Force)
If this happened in real life how strong would it be?
>>24758328
have we ever confirmed what video game Seismic Toss is? I mean, Gold Silver literally has the pokemon throw the earth at them.
>>24758347
Pokemon Battle Revolution and the anime both give a pretty good idea.
Charizard wins because he attack Greymon while trying to evolve.
What is the fucking point of death battle anyway, and why do people care?
Seriously, one can plausibly figure out a way for Charlie Brown to beat Cthulu or something and then animate it for shits and giggles.
>>24758388
>plausibly figure out a way for Charlie Brown to beat Cthulu
Wait, is that with Charlie Brow using the Red Baron Power Up?
>>24758295
>calling it a debacle
>getting buttmad that animu lost to Toph
Not that I enjoy DB all that much, but Toph totally deserved that win.
>>24758430
Not really, Toph can't even match Lee's (Weights) speed, Lee can't match Gaara's sand speed.
"Just because you can see it, doesn't mean shit if your body can't react.
>>24758430
Explain please
>>24757959
i can't believe i sat here and watch that for half an hour
>>24758448
Just watch it. Literally everything Toph does is within canon and not crazy headcanon/theory bullshit. And everything Gaara does is within his own canon strengths.
So, Toph wins.
>>24758462
>Show has her barely keeping the library in place
>Death Battle has her summoing 12 pillars without movement.
Yeah...canon.
>>24758550
Anon, she did that pillar bullshit when she invaded the earth kingdom palace.
>>24758237
>Igglybuff is a normal/fairy type
>>24758550
Season 2 toph is far weaker then S3 toph
How exactly do the Dramon Killers work anyways?
>>24758430
Oh man I'm not getting into this one again.
But no. Simply put Toph should not have won that match, they downplayed or ignored the fuck out of Gaara's abilities while letting kid Toph have her Korra level abilities
I doubt it's a "muh animu" thing either since even the majority of /co/ agrees that the fight was bullshit and Gaara should've won.
But again, I am just not getting into everything fucked about that fight, it's been discussed to death, pun unintended.
>>24758820
And Mega-Altaria is a Dragon/Fairy type.
While toph may have learned "sand-bending" there was never confirmation that she could use it for fighting, hell, I don't think we have ever seen sand bending in action.
I love charizard but I don't think it could beat WarGraymon, Maybe regular Graymon and I think it would be by RNG bullshitWhy is there no porn of WarGraymon and Mega Charizard together?
>>24755653
>DEATH BATTLE
>thoughts
it's shit
>>24758377
Is that even possible? Every time we see a digimon evolve from outside, it only takes a second or two, and there's an egg-shaped force field. The visual effect is quite similar to mega evolution.
Charmander < Charmeleon < Agumon < Charizard < Greymon < MegaCharizard < MetalGreymon < WarGreymon
>>24758284
The starter pokemon in Emerald arc of the manga combined their full power to dissipitate a big ass Kyogre made of water. If you look at the energy it would have taken to do that to something of that size and divide it evenly among the 12 Pokemon that took part in the attack, it comes out to a good island level feat. Mega Charizard Y should be able to achieve a similar level without using up all it's energy, especially considering the Charizard in question was one of the strongest among the 12 mons there. Taking that into account, I'd say a composite Mega Charizard Y would actually be a match for MetalGreymon, possibly even winning. Wargreymon and up absolutely demolishes Charizard no matter what though.
>>24759134
iirc it has only happened in Our War Game, a situation where the Digimon were slowed by the internet and processing speeds of Taichi's computer.
>>24759250
Going by the lovely den of autism over at http://vsbattles.wikia.com/, that's pretty accurate.
>>24755653
>Not every Pokemon vs every Digimon
Does this mean /vp/ will have to fight /co/?
>>24759316
I recall it happening in Frontier a lot, and the Savers movie.
Is it just me or is everyone WAY overestimating mega charizard? Assuming the fight is based on physical strength/fire breath, being mega doesn't help it that much unless they dig deep into charizard's movepool from the games
>>24757606
This.
Greymon would wreck Charizard if it digivolved but that isn't happening.
Charizard will go Mega X. then they'll use his 4x resistance to fire as an excuse to have him win for the viewers.
>>24755653
Who the fuck actually cares about this shit?
powerlevel discussions are the most braindead LCD retard drone attractors i've ever seen
>>24759192
/thread
Does Greymon know stealth rocks? If no, charizard wins
>>24759642
Maybe the resistance helps against Terra Force. But it certainly doesn't do shit against Mega Claw, combined with WarGreymon's Dramon Destroyer capabilities.
WarGreymon literally becomes more powerful when fighting Dragon types. It'd be like having STAB Dragon Rush with Adaptability hitting something even just 2x weak to Dragons.
WarGreymon shits on Mega Char X.
>>24759406
Digimon would win. Easily. Which flavor of victory would you like, unrelenting, limitless strength empowered by reality-altering macguffins and literally all but two Digimon, or apocalyptic "It's literally eaten the entire Earth and has gained reality rending powers," or perhaps a different flavor of "consumed the Earth and gained reality rending powers," with the difference being it is an entire alternate dimension itself?
>>24759718
>WarGreymon literally becomes more powerful when fighting Dragon type Digimon
Fixed
>>24757936
>buttmad capefag detected
>>24755937
What is SkullGreymon
What is MetalGreymon
And I'm not even counting WarGreymon because it'd have to revert back to Agumon first
>>24758236
that shit is literally fanfiction, xross or fusion NEVER HAPPENED LIKE B/W
>>24755653
Why do people even give a shit about Death Battle? They're garbage,
>>24759985
this
>>24759924
No it wouldn't.
In the games you get WarGreymon straight from MetalGreymon, and in the anime, Agumon goes through Greymon and MetalGreymon really quickly, which is why they are always present when Agumon needs to warp digivolve
>>24758236
Yeah I don't count Xros Digimon. That entire series was bullshit.
That said, a LOT of Mega-level digimon flatout solo the entire pokemon roster sans Giratina and Arceus. And those get wiped by the top tier Super Ultimates.
>>24758340
"all of the energy in the atmosphere".
Regardless of the energy ball, that act would freeze everything, fatally for most forms of life, and temporarily blind and deafen everyone, which is far more impressive, as well as negating and absorbing any fire, wind, and light based moves.
Wargreymon kills most fully evolved non-Ice or Fire type pokes just by charging his attack. The actual energy ball is deadly as fuck, of course.
>>24760065
True, but this would probably be based on the anime, not the games. Otherwise there's a whole mess of other things Greymon might evolve into. And in the anime it always starts with Agumon because of the catalyst they use for digivolution.
>>24760515
Didn't need to convert back into Agumon in Tri.
>>24757948
This is assuming, however, Amazo has absorbed enough powers. By himself, he's pretty lame
>>24755653
Charizard will win because death battle is dumb pandering
>>24760756
Charizard has no way of winning once Wargreymon comes out. Besides, fan favorites lose often.
Never seen an outright bullshit win happen though.
>>24755653
What's DEATH BATTLE?
>>24760087
Why the fuck is Giratina higher than Xerneas and Yveltal? He's my favorite Legendary, but both of them have the power of manipulating life energy itself.
Yveltal with both its X and Y Pokedex entries alone I'd honestly argue is one of the most canonically overpowered things ever. Anything that isn't immortal or a machine is basically fucked because he can absorb life energy without even needing to touch you. And killing him just sucks you dry before he harmlessly reverts to a cocoon. You don't usually expect that level of powerlevel potential from a Pokemon even with what we've seen.
>>24760831
>master chief
>captain america
>>24758256
The robot is basically a kamen rider, it fights for justice even when everything is trying to pull it down and the only weapons it has are punches and kicks.
>>24756947
>skullgreymon will beat the shit put of megacharX
>asspull were he reverts back koromon
>megacharX wins
i feel like this is going to happen
>>24761185
You know what, you are probably right, of course Charizard is going to win, and it out lasting Agumon's evolution is the easiest way for that to happen.
>>24761185
>>24761189
Wargreymon can't Digivolve into Skullgreymon and they literally have to use it. If he somehow doesn't show up, the win doesn't count in the slightest because Greymon wasn't at full potential.
It's as stupid as Charizard not Mega Evolving when he doesn't stand a chance against anything higher.
>>24761207
Charizard doesn't stand a chance from anything above Greymon.
>>24761216
That's what I already said. Mega Charizard X is the best he's got. Without it he can't even touch something like Wargreymon.
>>24760831
>Starscream vs autismhorse
The peak of pandering
>>24761240
on that battle defense
starscream is like the ultimate jobber
fucker lost to sam, a fucking human on DoTM
>>24761240
You're kidding me. Starscream is the bigger bitch in the entire series and constantly ends up the ass to Megatron.
Jobbing to a pony is just another addition to the mountain of disrespect.
no matter who wins it'll be a shitstorm
>>24761456
But everyone already sees Greymon winning. His higher forms completely outclass Charizard.
Anyone who's a fan of both series knows this can't end any other way than a Wargreymon victory.
>>24761475
Fact but they will pull some bullshit like Charizard mega evolving and making Greymon dedigivolve into agumon or koromon like that
>>24761503
Charizard will have to Mega Evolve just to take on Wargreymon, who has a ridiculous destructive arsenal of abilities and even speed. He won't be able to inflict enough damage to force a De-Digivolution before he's been completely overpowered.
>>24758430
No just no. Gaara could literally shred her apart with a few specks of sand.
Pic related he stopped sage mode Madara on his tracks from his insides (kept him immobilized mid air) for a few seconds.
Madara was smacking the Bijuu around
>>24756574
Adventures.
>>24760087
Mega Rayquaza would still ruin some serious shit though
>>24755653
Fucking stupid.
You might as well have sunkern fight zeedmilleniummon, you'd pretty much get similar results.
>>24755653
The only Pokemon vs Digimon fight that should ever happen is Mewtwo vs Blackwargeymon
Digimon shit may be strong, but eventually pokemon power levels will match up to it. Then they'll both be filled with elementary school playground tier ludicrousness.
>>24761715
Uh... Megazard X defeated Mewtwo in Origins.
>>24755653
What would even be a good match up for digimon, anyway? It sure as hell wouldn't be pokemon. Yugioh monsters?
>they will never do a latias versus bayleef deathbattle
Its slightly more fair than this
>>24761738
If I'm not mistaken YGO is even weaker. It lacks feats.
MTG would be a much better pick.
>>24761714
Sweet Jesus.
>>24761751
I don't think YGO had stuff like this even in mind when they were coming up with their franchise, they just wanted to make a card game first and foremost and the show was advertisement for it as usual.
>>24761714
>Zeedmilleniummon
tyrant valvatorez could wrangle that monster
>>24761751
What.
Yugioh isn't weak at all. They've casually got wielders or all types, reality warpers and dragons capable of bitch slapping literal gods.
I'd bet Shooting Quasar Dragon could solo anything in Pokemon.
Alright guys Magikarp versus Susanoomon lets go
>>24761734
No nigga I mean thematically they make a good match. They're both "artificial", evil clones of good characters, both ramble on in 2deep4you rants, both are fan favorites .
>>24761773
A fuckton of things could solo anything in pokemon, its not a series thats built around powerlevels. Its literally possible for a human to go ahead and punch some of the shit to death of the person felt like it. A prinny from disgaea thats almost ready to be reborn as a human could solo the pokemon universe.
>>24761773
>>24761751
These franchises get boring when strengthes and feats just start casually throwing around muh reality rapers and universe multiverse omniverse destroyers in the blink of an eye kind of shit. Literally "My multiverse slayer can destroy more multiverses than your everyverse destroyer" tier shit is what it quickly starts to sound like.
>>24761808
Yeah but my winner can win over yours because it can, thats why its a winner and not a loser, it wins.
>>24761791
Anon have some decency
>>24761798
Still, Yugioh has its own selection of fuckers with insane levels of power like Sophia or the ability to twist dimensions like monsters that aren't even Level 5.
Compare an average mortal creature like Charizard anyone can raise to Blue-Eyes White Dragon, which in lore is a legendary beast of destruction capable of defeating unimaginable evil with its power.
>>24761828
We're not looking for things as weak as dimension twisters, we're only hiring multiverse destroyers.
>>24761834
Goddamn.
>>24761808
No, that's when shit gets hilariously stupid.
But what if it was kirby versus wargreymon?
>>24757626
Are you seriously implying rhat Goku could beat Superman? If so, you are clearly retarded. I like dbz and don't care for superman at all, but even I can see it was a clear cut victory.
>>24761714
Aren't there digimon stronger than zeed because they don't have a spell binding it that limits its power? Everything just gets needlessly stronger and stronger, just make something up and then simply say so and there it is.
>>24761868
Nah, Zeed is still a broken piece of shit that never got surpassed. If the chains come off without his partner around it's gg.
>>24761873
Sounds fun and exciting.
>>24755937
Eyy, -icwatudidthar-
>>24760885
Going by game canon alone, Dialga and Palkia are each capable of rewriting/remaking the universe on their own, and Arceus is capable of making new Dialga and Palkia.
A mere lifewiper does not even come close to comparing to universe level threats. Hell, it doesn't even come close to matching a moonbuster like Primal Groudon.
>>24761902
Can we fucking quit it with this reality universe multiverse dimension fucker shit and drift a little bit back down to reality along the lines of Alain's charizard versus wargreymon? This is the stupidest sounding shit ever.
>>24761902
Yeah but are they capable of super infinite endless death and destruction forever of all eternity because they can? You know why pokemon will always be weaker than digimon? Digimon don't need to breed and take shits.
>>24761902
A lot of mega level digimon have the capacity to do something like that. Never mind anything above mega level digimon.
>>24761902
Arceus was canonically BTFO by a fucking Arbok.
>>24761902
Rewriting and remaking the universe is as casual as a belch or fart for digimon, anon. You're not serious with calling those weak little shits anything but weak as fuck by comparison, right? Your heart continuing to beat is on the same level as that considering what digimon are capable of.
>>24761938
That was the 0 plate Arceus and there was multiple other pokemon there, 0 plate arceus is buddy buddy with sunkern in terms of strength.
>>24761944
>That was the 0 plate Arceus
What does God need with a plate?
>>24761938
>being dragged up onto a stage like nuh uh I dun wanna by a huge swole as fuck arbok that didn't attack it counts as being btfo
I guess it makes sense considering gamefreak doesn't care about making Arceus seem like anything but the weakest of all the legendaries. I'm still waiting for the eventual moment where arceus is on the floor crying while a group of toddlers whack it with cardboard tubes.
>>24761938
You read the manga too, huh? It also got btfo by a zubat.
Is zubat pokemon's answer to digimon's zeed milleniummon by that definition?
>>24761950
It keeps its strength in it anon. Otherwise without its macguffin its weaker than you are.
Why even bring Arceus up? Its one of the weakest pokemon in the franchise. Why not a FEAR rattata?
>>24761928
>>24761929
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>>24761944
I was literally only replying to the anon who thought Yveltal was on par with anything of note. Of course Digimon stomps, how stupid do you think I am?
>>24761966
Well there's the Preacher's verse god that needs to be in his chair to be omnipotent. Otherwise his inventions can work against like the The Saint of Killers' guns which is made from the grim reaper's scythe I believe.
>>24761938
what
first the rock and now an arbok? I mean I guess thats a step up, that only means it is getting stronger, right?
>>24761938
But what does this say about palkia dialga and giratina that couldn't damage it whereas an arbok wrecked its shit in half?
How do power levels work in digimon. It seems like there are so many, and they are all stupidly designed, and each have their own attacks, and sometimes a champion level will beat ultimate levels, etc?
>>24762000
When one multiverse destroyer kills another multiverse destroyer, it is considered stronger until the other one revives. Then they fight again and the winner is considered stronger. If there is a repeat winner then it is cemented as fact that one is above the other.
>>24761990
You guys talking about this?
I mean there's also a recent example of it getting btfo in a certain game but that includes everybody.
tfw everyone keeps forgetting mega rayquaza
It literally held off 7 legendaries and 3 of them were arceus' fucking creation trio
>>24762026
Theres like five other pokemon there besides the two story tall giga arbok, and if you follow the shackles theres even more still. Plus Arceus has no plates and is being moody again so that dampens its power even further. When it actually starts getting attacked by pokemon that are much stronger than arbok nothing even happens. But thats when it has all of its plates.
>>24762026
How does this even happen
I read the manga and this is just there in the next page without no context surrounding it so you just have to assume Arceus has a BDSM fetish and let it happen so that it can later on masturbate to the experience
>>24762018
So it's basically just the anime?
Aren't there card games, and video games with combat?
>>24762055
I think it was implied that Arceus let it happen.
I think I need to read the summary or something.
>>24762061
Theres games, sure, but no one in threads like this gives a fuck about situations where everything is toned down for balance purposes.
>>24761928
>>24761929
>>24761938
>>24761944
I literally just rewatched a video of the strongest Digimon. No one is stupid enough to say Digimon wouldn't completely crush any Pokemon. He was literally just answering why Xerneas and Yveltal weren't as high as Arceus in terms of power even though 1v1 Yveltal can really fuck a wide variety of characters or creatures up.
Still doesn't answer why Giratina is higher than Yveltal other than obvious reasons. Giratina might literally be a ghost, but Yveltal can still fuck him up with pure darkness.
>>24759959
>NEVER HAPPENED LIKE B/W
That's cute. How is it living in denial?Xros Wars is the second best series after Tamers.
>>24762055
Arceus let it happen because it turned out the whole thing had been because it wanted Gold to stop neglecting and underestimating togetaro, and it decided to get the message across in the most elaborate way possible. As soon as everything is over Arceus leaves like none of that ever happened and doesn't even give Gold and his now evolved Togekiss (togetaro) a second glance. Even punts one of the team rocket execs out of the way because Arceus isn't there to fuck around with anyone besides Gold and Togetaro. Even all the rest of Gold's pokemon end up getting btfo because Arceus specifically only has business with those two. Togetaro ends up evolving from a togepi straight into a togekiss in mid-attack (which doesn't damage arceus) literally because Arceus blesses it and then it stares for a bit and flies off into neverland. Thats the whole thing pretty much.
>>24762116
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>>24762026
Arceus canon bdsm fetishist?
>>24762120
Pepe:
>shitposter
>uses facebook and twitter
Janitor:
>stops shitposters
>does not use facebook or twitter
>>24762026
MERELY PRETENDING
>>24762147
That's what your mom said last night.
>>24762040
>But thats when it has all of its plates.
Again, if Arceus were actually omnipotent, it wouldn't need plates, or at least would never lose them.
It's like saying such-and-such Marvel character is omnipotent because they wielded the complete Infinity Gauntlet at some point.
>>24762279
I think arceus just has a heart ofgoldand wants to play fair instead of being a killjoy shitting all over everyone's fun by being untouchable and oneshotting everything.
I like the idea of Arceus being imperfect though, I find it humorous. No one is actually calling Arceus omnipotent, its simply done godlike things before. Arceus is legitimately my favorite pokemon but I think its unfair to treat it like some literal defacto ultimate god thing, and people who treat it as such are blind to the fact that everything is supposed to have strengthes and weaknesses no matter what it is, except for mega rayquaza.
I wish when it un-petrified in SPMD that it was in the rock type plate afterward, that actually would've bene funny but I guess the devs thought fuck it this has to be as serious as possible
So if Arceus isn't the strongest poke then who is?
>>24762312
there isnt a strongest besides maybe mega rayquaza because at this point the games have developed enough to where everything has a viable counter and using it isn't some sort of sure win because you can always fight against it in some way and gamefreak remembered the franchise is built around a team of six covering eachothers weaknesses not a 1v1
In due time even mega rayquaza will end up balanced, just wait for further releases.
>>24762321
And digimon isn't balanced?
>>24762332
Zeedmilleniummon has already been brought up more than once in the thread anon, no its not balanced
>>24762296
Do you think Arceus knew about the plan that the MC and partner had in PSMD?
>>24761240
pandered to vore fuckers, too.
>>24762140
Stay mad cūck
>>24762446
CucK you.
>>24762446
Fuck you and your Facebook Frog.
>>24762296
I think someone successfully argued Arceus, creator of the universe, was actually legitimately autistic.
>>24763321
I hope so because that'd make me love it even more and make the movie make a little more sense. You have some source on that?
>>24763346
Basically the fact he's so awkward when he isn't pissed and doesn't get along with any of his own creations at all.
>>24763412
why do I find this adorable
How the fuck is a manlet dragon fighting something as big as a Skyscraper?
>>24755944
>>24756554
This is why we can't have nice things
>>24756983
Gatomon's a strong fucking champion.
Actually, Gatomon's literally Angemon level.
>>24756936
Tai doesn't train Agumon though.
Tai's literally just an energy tank, for when Greymon needs a rush or a boost.
Alsoin the original, Digimon don't just get stronger and faster with evolution, but they get smarter too. Agumon's about as smart as Joe, Greymon's already really fucking smart, MetalGreymon's basically a fucking army general, and WarGreymon knows every fucking battle tactic ever.
Digimon don't get "trained". They use their kid for power, while the kid uses them for protection. They're smart enough as is.
Pokemon get trained, because the majority of them are too fucking dumb (read: Charizard) to know when to fucking dodge an incoming laser.
>>24761902go back to the OBDOf all places to vs debate you shouldn't do it on 4chan
>>24761902
Clockmon is both Dialga and Palkia in one Digimon.
And he's a mere champion. The same level as Greymon.
>>24764038
>OBD
Does Fluttershy still posts there? Pretty nice guy fåm.
>>24764038
>OBD
I don't know what that is. I was just explaining why Yveltal isn't shit compared to Arceus and the Creation Trio, nothing to do with Digimon.
>>24764091
Liar, how else would you know the primals were moonbusters?
>Metalgreymon and Wargreymon
>HURR THEY ARE STEEL AND FIRE IS SUPER EFFECTIVE
>>24761240
They used generation 1 starscream'
He's a fucking idiot, like legitamately a fucking idiot
List of factors that make Charizard stand more of a chance
>Charizard isn't a "Dramon" so he takes regular damage from the claws and they could say that WarGreymon's feats of killing Machinedramon and MetalSeadramon stem from the Dramon Killers
>Alain's Mega Charizard X (if were going by a composite Mega Charizard X) has fought Primal Groudon, Primal Kyogre, and Rayquaza (albeit not defeat them but during said fight tanked their hits and dodged some of their attacks)
>Mega Charizard X has a 4X resistance to fire so Terra Force won't do as much damage than it normally does
>Tough Claws, depend on how they measure it
This battle exists because Charizard got his ass beat by Blastoise
>>24764091
I was about to correct you, then I re-read your post, and realized you said what I was about to correct you on.
I need to lurk more.
>>24764124
You do too. Moon-Busting is thrown around casually in pretty much every fan base as a measurement. It's only once you hear someone say City, Mountain, or Country Busting that they're certainly from OBD.
Oh, and to relate to the topic at hand:
Charizard X is, at absolute BEST, a Town Level Buster (more than likely he's just a City Block Level Buster). He's also merely Town Level Durability. Hypersonic+ Travel Speed, but only Hypersonic reactions. Intelligence is about as much as a smart dog (has to rely on trainer commands to truly be a combatant).
Greymon by himself has at least City Level Durability (Tankier than Birdramon, who can tank a 5 Megaton attack). He can also dish out a stronger version of the attack that Birdramon tanked, so he's a City Level Buster minimum too. Travel Speed is merely superhuman, but he has Hypersonic attacks and reactions as well. He's also of average adult intelligence (relies on self for strategies, which work fairly well).
The literal one thing Charizard has is that he can fly. Greymon is bigger, tougher, stronger, and just as fast.
Including WarGreymon in the battle has to be ScrewAttack's joke, well...
>Country Level Buster
>Country Busting Level Durability
>Massively Hypersonic+ (Mach 2800+ Travel AND Reaction time)
His punches are island shattering, he's too fast for the naked eye to see, and he can tank literal nukes directly.
WarGreymon shits on anything in Pokemon that's not time-stopping or reality warping.
>>24764205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqljc82OGo
Dramon Killers could let him slice through them like a knife through butter, but Charizard's got nothing on that speed. Fuck, no pokemon does.
>>24764205
You mean Mega Charizard X managed to not die after he did absolutely nothing to either one of them and they completely stomped him.
>>24764239
Pokemon has many things above Wargreymon with ease. Digimonverse still > Pokemonverse but still, you're forgetting abouta few things. Recheck the OBD calcs.
maybe Charizard would stand a chance if it dna-pokevolved with Blastoise and Pikachu
>>24755944
but digimon seem to be one trick ponies. While pokemon can generally learn a wide array of attacks.
>>24764270
Barring Time-Stops and Reality Warps, what on earth tanks and beats WarGreymon?
