So what are your thoughts on the ability to crossbreed Pokemon for new new species?
There is the obvious problem of us having so many fucking pokemon now, but let's assume that this is... a mod for Red and Blue?
What next? Crossbreeds of crossbreeds?
>>24745743
Well, in real life, most crossbreeds or hybrids are infertile. That will stop this from getting too crazy.
>>24745743
>>24745755
>Manage to breed together every pokemon
>Either get Mew or Arceus
I think it might be too late at this point. It should have started in Gen III, reducing the number of new Pokemon in each generation for an increasingly complex crossbreeding system. Would have been better than every gen having the requisite generic rodent/bug/bird/cave Pokemon.
>>24745842
Exactly why I gave the example of it being a mod for Red/Blue. It's way too late to bring this into the game.
>>24745704
If the ever actually did it for whatever reason, it would have to be relatively subtle changes, otherwise it would just be going into straight up fusion territory
They could do a few crossbreeds for specific combinations of popular pokemon, like pikachu x jigglypuff, but it would never be more than that.
>>24745955
Or species that are VERY similar. Like a Charizard and Dragonite.
>>24745897
Well you're not wrong, but the idea of two species mising into one just seems spectacular and fitting for Pokemon..
>>24745704
I'd only be ok with it if it conformed to my autism
with rules like
>Same amount of evolutions; a lapras couldnt take cloyster traits
>same egg types; a charizard couldnt breed with a feraligatr
best crossbreeds would be between pokemon that are similar, however as long as a pokemon fits the top two conditions, cross breeding is possible
for max autism, see http://pastebin.com/edit.php?i=9u3sW25G
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>>24746122
ahh shit fucked up. a charizard couldnt breed with a golem then
>>24746122
That link doesn't lead anywhere.
>>24746335
damn
this should work
http://pastebin.com/9u3sW25G
You made me do this.
I hope you're happy with yourself.
>>24745704
Lilligant is cute. Cute! CUTE!!!
>>24746543
That thing looks so satisfied with itself.
>breeding Gardevoir with Muk
>>24746678
Delicious toxic goo girl waifu.
post more crossbreeds
>>24746871
K
>>24746882
Holy shit. Why.I'm happy these threads are now called crossbreed instead of variation.
151 * 150 * 149 * 148... = 8.62721e+264 combinations.
>>24746906
That artist makes a lot of this shit. It's cool and disgusting all at once.Crossbreed just sounds cooler.
>>24746915
Not every Pokemon can breed with each other, and you still need to consider evolution lines. Squirtles and Blastoise are still the same species.
>>24746882
>>24746915
You're doing math that doesn't correspond to the game itself. Due to egg groups, not every pokemon can breed with every other pokemon. If we're going the realistic route with this and saying that you can only cross two pokemon then that number becomes significantly reduced. Then you have to take into account pokemon that *can't* breed, like babies, genderless and legends, and you end up with something that would be really managable.
I personally think it'd be a great idea for the next generation. Now that we've moved into 3D models for pokemon, it would be easy enough to have small features that change as well as alternate color/texture palettes to reflect mixed breeding. Cross a female Serperior with a male Venusaur and you wind up with a spotted Serperior that has Venusaur flowers on it and a similar color palette to Venusaur. Swap the genders and you get a Venusaur with Serperior traits, etc. They *could* offer the potential to add/change a secondary type of a pokemon based on the parents, but that could get messy real fast, though FUN. I think a more realistic expectation would be a potential egg move that can't normally be learned by the base Pokemon. It could make for fun customization, plus new strategies by giving pokemon new egg moves. It's entirely doable, but unless Gamefreak pull their heads out of their asses and realize that they need to do *something* to spice up the franchise then it's not gonna happen.
>>24745704
Sweet fuck that Blossom Lilligant is the cutest thing I've ever seen and I want to be able to have one so bad it's ridiculous. I would use one in every new game forever.
>>24746882
I don't think this can even be called a pokemon anymore
>>24745704
GF has tested this idea at least once in the past, maybe to lÃmited cartridge space it got scrapped but left a legacy, egg moves.
>>24745755
Which of types become dominant?
>>24748614
Most likely the female if we are following the current breeding mechanics.
>>24748647
That would lead to even more combinations.
Realistically, it could be toned down a lot to make it feasible
*Only fully evolved, same egg group and similar pokemon could be crossbred
*Crossbred pokemon can't reproduce
*The way newly bred pokemon variates is overly specific:
+Aesthetic+
-Generic "pattern" unique to a evolutionary line to be pasted over designated zones on each pokemon (3d model tweaking)
-Else, basic color scheme change is applied over said designated zones
-Specific models are made to be "interchangeable" between each pokemon. A unique feature to paste based on the evolutionary line and general zones to be placed for all pokemon (think of it as Lego's)
+Mechanics+
-Since mother species decide the newborn species, it's the father's traits which are passed
-Either a species unique attack is passed, or a random non egg passed attack is given to the newborn
-(Optional) Secondary type is made or changed to father's main type, ability is randomized unless everstone/destiny knot is present
-(RNG hell) IVs and BST slight boost or reduction
Just from top off my head
Seems aesthetic implementation is a non issue, but on the technical side the implications would shake our current competitive meta.
Someone would find a way to make Tittyvoir and that scumbag would be me.
>>24748895
Trying to breed a Miltank and Gardevoir together?
>>24745704
>>24751344
>>24751355
>Fried Ice Cream
I can hear my heart screaming in pain.
>>24751463
Now that's a pretty cool idea.
>>24745897
>>24752056
>Medical
As if this thing couldn't get worse!
>>24752056
That medical waste one is horrifying in a Fear Factor kind of way.
This would be a neat idea especially if they got extra moves like the Rotom forms. I agree that hybrids shouldn't themselves be able to breed to keep things from getting out of hand. Of course for Gamefreak to do something like this we'd get literally no post game and probably not get it in the next game but we can dream.
>>24752056
>medical
guaranteed replies every time
>>24752056
horrifying
So would breeding with Dittos be the same, or are we just going to get abominations now?
Any Treecko-line variants?
>>24748765
If it worked like I'm thinking it should (Female parent is the base pokemon with features/moves from the male parent), then it would basically be every pokemon with a gender that is capable of breeding would have a variant based on every other pokemon/evolutionary line that it can breed with. If the female is a one-stage and the male is a three-stage, it has traits of the final stage of the male, and if it's the other way around, then each stage has traits similar to the single stage of the male. Three-stage to three-stage would mix traits of both lines. This way reduces the number of variants that would be needed by not allowing a different variant for each stage of an evolution and it would still be limited to egg groups. Basically each pokemon that can breed and be female has a variant for each line/pokemon it can breed with.
>>24748883
I think being able to add/change the secondary type of a pokemon based on the type of the father would be really awesome. The meta *does* get very stale and samey after a while, which is why we suffering from all the bitching about certain things being on every team, so to be competitive you have to run counters to those things that can still be a viable team on its own, at which point you may or may not like any pokemon on your team, which kind of defeats all the fun of the game.
If we were able to take a pokemon we like and crossbreed it with a more viable pokemon that gives it some new moves, a stat/type change and a sweet new look then it could make building a team a much more fun exercise in finding a favorite and running with it. Just imagine a Ledian that was breed with a Volcarona to turn it into Bug/Fire and give it access to some better moves and a stat boost to bring it close to those of the daddy. It wouldn't be *perfect*, but damn if it wouldn't look awesome and be a complete badass.
>>24748895
>>24748908
It would quite obviously be Castform
>>24745704
Retarded idea shilled by retarded people
>>24746122
>>24746533
My autism approves of both your digits and your autism
>>24746906
>>24746945
Variations = no hybridization, just small adaptations for various environment/niche of the same species
Crossbreed = akin to fusions
I just want more pokemon customization. grass types would be so easy...
>>24746122
>>24746533
Not bad - the list is big enough to matter and yet small enough to be doable.
Also, nice digits.
I wouldn't mind getting a broken metagame from this sort of thing, competetive is jokes anyway
Or if they wanna be no fun allowed faggots, only purebreds allowed in official battles
>>24745704
If it's implemented like in your pic I wouldn't like it, they're all just litigants with characteristics from other monsters, someone posted once an image here of a Lopunny and deer link hybrid and it was a whole new species with unique features but at the same identifiable with its parents. That's how the concept
it could be great for some
think about a charizard-blastoise hybrid
or a mew-mewtwo hybrid
or even something like a piplup-farfetch'd hybrid
But gamefreak would never go for it, too much work
besides some people would make god forsaken one, like pikachu-gengar or lucario-gardevoir
>>24761932
>Mew-Mewtwo hybrid
>legendaries breeding
>>24752056
>>24752233
>medical
>out of hand
It looks like it has plenty of hands.
>>24753931
>>24753973
Didn't know I needed these until I saw them.
>>24761713
>>24752041
>>24745897
theyreAllTheSame.jpeg
>>24764597
well it is kind of supposed to be the same pokemon
>>24753973
There's no logic here.
It's supposed to copy the look of predators and animals that are dangerous to others in the outdoors. but here it's
>a cactus
>a legendary (rarely seen)
>a roaming legendary not seen to harm other mons
>another mon trying to use the same gimmick (fake face)
>a cave bat
>and a ghost in tombs and places pokemon aren't
>>24753931
>different dinosaur species are listed
>they're litterally the same thing
>>24764999
this is the magic of the fusion
