>Your best bro gets hated on just for being popular
Why?
>>24735496
I wanna suck his dick.
>>24735496
Because he hogs the spotlight.
>>24735496
Most people probably just hate the economic value the popular mons tend to have, since is just pandering on what trends more (which ended with Charizard even getting two Megas).
I for once just don't like Charizard too much. Had the usual "Oh, cool" attitude towards it because of the anime, which changed later as the games came by gen after gen.
>>24735496
>Bro
>not gf
>>24735496
I don't hate Charizard, I hate the Genwunner casuals that think it's some sort of death god when even Gen I had plenty of cool designs. Liking it is lazy because it's a starter and most people probably just trucked through the game with it.
>>24735570
This
>>24735496
Zard X is one of the shittiest designs though. Get some taste and like Mega Y instead
>>24735496
Charizard isn't a blatant Mary Sue like Lucario and actually earned his adoration on his own merits long before Gen VI brought him back better than ever. Completely unlike the latter.
That's all the counterargument I need.
>>24735556
Just fuck off. You wanna fuck Pokemon, you stick to actual feminine ones. Don't drag down predominately bros with your shit.
Charizard is my bro because I remember going through the Pokedex online before I bought R/B and I decided it was cool looking and it was going to spear head my party. I didn't know it was a starter then.
First Pokemon I ever saw was Drowsee btw.
>>24735841
Nah. Not as bad as Lucario but the fact that millions of kids saw that charizard card with 120 hp and 100 attack, stronger than venusaur and blastoise then the rest is history
Which mega charizard do you prefer, /vp/?
>>24736469
>millions
>TCG
you're the first one to tell me that zard's card was better than theirs. Back then people didn't play the TCG, they collected the cards. Zard's was popular because it was Charizard
>>24736474
Here are all your replies
>Y because something something natural progression
>X sucks because black = edgy spikes spikes edge edge
I prefer Y before anyone says I prefer X, by the way.
>>24735496
I honestly woudn't mind Charizard that much if it wasn't a starter. I personally prefer Venusaur over Charizard and it feels bad seeing Venusaur getting shafted everytime while Charizard gets pushed by GF like crazy. Look at that faggot having two megas. It just doesn't seem fair.
>>24735496
I don't like base Charizard that much so Charizard-X that much. Personally I think they're too fat. Charizard-Y looks really good though.
>>24736484
Up until now, some children dont know jack about playing. Back home in my country literally everyone in the city and the country all want a charizard because of those numbers. This was of course during the gen 1 pokemania.
If you want other proof, go see the underaged YT comments when tamashi said charizard is overrated
>>24736485
It seems to me like the drought ability is so much stronger than any other option.
>>24736501
the Charizard card existed before Youtube. Since we're both just talking from experience, I don't have much to add. It was a bigger deal having the card because it was Charizard than it was using it in the game, IIRC
>>24736508
ZardX can also do a Bulky DDance set and thus can choose to be hyper offensive or go bulky. ZardY can do the same as a special attacker, but not to as great of an extent
>>24735496
I'm sorry, OK? All I want for it is the moveset of Christ and Team Preview to go the fuck away. I can't control the anti-hype surrounding this thing because of furries and GF's quantum retard business measures.
>>24736474
Y. Still love the fuck out of either one.
Both make Charizard look more powerful then ever in their own unique way. X makes it more fierce and vicious looking to compliment it leaning towards brute force and fighting directly on the ground while Y is more sleek and like a wyvern to represent affinity towards special abilities and aerial combat.
I will say X probably would have looked better if it wasn't black, but I don't mind it anymore. Obviously a reference to the shiny or just a way to tell them apart better.
Can someone recolor Mega Charizard X orange with everything blue turned gold instead?
>>24736474
I think that Y is cuter, that is why I like it more.
>>24735784
My nigga
>>24735496
It has no reason to exist beyond pandering.
Same with Mega Mewtwo X.
Because its the favorite pf plebs who know nothing about Pokemon
>Ember is the most powerful attack
I need to filter the word "bro"
>>24735784
/thread
>>24736469
>TCG having anything to do with Charizard's popularity
>>24740587
Do you realize how valuable Charizard cards are?
>>24740631
That was becuase the anime made him popular
Zard Y is actually edgier than Zard X. Prove me wrong.
>>24740669
I think that both are cute
>>24735784
This.
>>24736474
I say I prefer X over Y. Though if they were both in the same battlefield together the end results would be fairly devastating.
>>24736488
>it feels bad seeing Venusaur getting shafted everytime
Venusaur has been OU throughout the gens. You can't say the same for Charizard.
>>24735784
>shitting on pokemon designs
a reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
>>24743924
Shut the fuck up and fuck off already. This shit is obnoxious.
>>24743924
They really do look awful, save a couple.
>>24744114
The only thing is that they were purposefully made to look silly, also if you don't know the lore of certains youkais then the designs makes even less sense.
>>24735496
You think YOU have it bad OP?
I can't talk to anyone about my bro without PRAISE LE HELIX XD!
>>24735496
>using the term bro
What are you, 12? Go back to watching your Pewdiepie videos you little faggot.
Hyper offensive charX w/EQ >>> Bulky charX with roost
>>24735570
>liking something is lazy
>>24735496
Probably because your bro completely hogs he spotlight.
I like Zard X but I also like plenty of other pokemon more.
You should keep in mind that game freak has never played favorites to this level before.
>>24744232
>that faggot popularized bro
>underage only
Made me reply/10
>>24744303
>what is mewtwo
>>24740669
Zard X is black, has blue flames and spikes
I don't like Zard-X much but he made Charizard usable, so I am fine with it.
Y is the scholar's choice
Can we just get some X recolors in here?
The only thing possibly wrong with it is turning black for no reason.
>>24744986
and the blue flames
>>24745044
Blue flames are hotter that red. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this.
>>24735496
Y is basically the reason I bought a 3DS. But I think both X and Y are the tightest shit.
It's kind of funny how no one bitches about my other bro, despite it being hella strong and then further power creeped into oblivion.
>>24744986
1. to distinguish it further from Y
2. shiny zard was already black, there is precedent
3. blazing sun vs solar eclipse motif
>>24745084
People did bitched about the lack of Dark STAB
>>24745092
and then it got crunch.
>>24745097
It did, I wonder if GF actualy listended to the fans.
>>24745084
>this fucking image
I have no words for how beautiful this is. Wow.
>>24735496
He looks fat.
>>24745081
they were added just because they look cooler, nothing else
>>24745383
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Fire-type gaining a different color of flames whether by evolution or Mega Evolution. Do you fucking get it?
>>24745383
Mega Y has more reason for blue flames, which is why I'm gonna do exactly that in ROM hack
>tfw my bromon considered smogon posterboy for scrubs
Could be worse. Your best bro could get hated on just because furfags ruin everything they touch.
>>24735841
>Mary Sue
Ebin Meme
>>24746000
Tell me about it, doesn't help when your bro is also associated with a reddit-tier meme
>>24746000
It also has a really shitty design going for it
>>24746015
>every single usage of Mary Sue ever is nothing but a meme
You can't even argue against this, so shut up.
>>24735541
So basically, you want me to choose a favorite that isn't as popular so that I can be a special snowflake? Who cares what other kids liked? Charizard has tons of meaning to me.
My first starter went along with my love of dragons. I'm a martial artist, and learned at a young age about the power and confidence of dragons in myth. I was (and still kind of am) a hothead, so I always gelled with Fire as an element, and Charmander was the natural choice for me. My dad even surprised me with the Red version *specifically* when we couldn't find the game during the original Pokemon hype because he knew those things about me. It's kind of how I was raised.
In the anime, his standoffish BS really mirrors my own edgy crap as a teenager. Nice, timid kid gets stronger and toughens up but is a total shit about it, eventually gets over himself and becomes a loyal bro. Shit was my "coming of age" to a T.
My friends all know/knew that Charizard was my ace, and agreed that it suited me. Everyone knew that I just "fit" with Charizard and questioned any time I benched him to try out other 'mon. Hell, when Charizard X was first announced, we all thought it was perfect that his color scheme matched the colors I use in my own business and am usually sporting: black and blue.
It may sound corny, but so is that shit about Gyarados "representing the ascension of the underdog" or Marowak "overcoming past and tribulations."
Charizard is just my favorite Pokemon, Anon. I don't see why that's such a fucking problem for people.
>>24746100
Why dont you like fighting types?
>>24746100
Nice pasta.
>>24746121
I have a suspicion that
>>24736564
is the original poster of the pasta.
>>24746146
Your suspicion is unfounded shit. I didn't proudly become a Charizardfag until shorty before Megas were even announced.
I was favorable but mostly indifferent about him until something clicked. Now kindly blow it out your ass.
>>24746202
loool
>>24736488
Blastoise is the one that got shafted this gen, out of the three he was the balance check to charizard and then they gave him 1 off solar beam.
>tfw bro gets hated on because he got an actually neat new form and their fave mons didn't
>>24745084
my nigga, Gyarados the best
>>24743871
Smogon is not the only meta that matters. And besides competitive viability, there's much more. Charizard has been shoved down everyone's throat since Gen2, where it was the only Kanto starter to appear in the Crystal intro. Since then it's been a downwards spiral. Charizard event here, special Charizard plushes there, Charizard in Smash,
Charizard in Pokkén, Charizard in Mega Evolution Arc, Charizard, Charizard, Charizard. I'm just tired of seeing that thing literally everywhere while most other starters, especially Venusaur and Blastoise, are getting more or less ignored by Gamefreak and marketing companies.
>>24746000
Nah, I dislike it for being right now the only fire starter that's the worst choice out of the bunch and also for being a fucking traffic cone. The terrible fanbase that ciclejerks over it, pretending it's a good Pokémon and best fox is the least problem with it.
>>24745092
Well... at least it had bite...
>>24735496
Only been out for 2 years. It can't be a legitimate bro, bro. It makes you a tool. The hate is on you, not on it.
>>24735496
M-Charizard X was literally created for the sake of popularity though. They could have easily just made M-Charizard Y fire/dragon and more of a mixed attacker, but no
>>24746695
That is not even a consolation price and you know it.
>>24746498
>Charizard plusies
Were? I want a few
>>24735496
Boring.
>>24743924
Is that Youkai Watch? If so , holy shit lol. The stuff in the DQ:Monsters series looks waaay better despite having the "obvious" Akira Toriyama style many people hate.
I know what yokai are but those are bad, like a bad parody someone in the late 90s would make of the pokemon craze. Some of those designs could be endearing but not when everything looks like hot garbage lol.
Wtf is the deal with the creepy Rugrats looking kid with the bug catcher net in the second row? Is that a youkai too?
I'm sure Bogleech will be too busy jizzing to those horrible "unique" designs though.
And to be on topic: all of you sperging about why everyone likes Charizard: it has nothing to do with the stats, the thing wasn't even that good until gen 3 when bellydrum Charizard with salac berry was a thing iirc.
It was the big, mean looking dragon on the cover of the original red version, everyone saw it and you combine that with the fact charmander was the most "dinosaur" like of the starters. You could say that for bulbaSAUR too but charmander had the therapod look that would be popular with young boys.
Of course when the card game came out everyone would want Charizard. That's why he was so popular. Kids are always going to like the big fire breathing dragon dinosaur thing in the same way that edgy teens will like katanas and the color black. Its not rocket science, I don't know why people debate this.
Anon thinks it is egdy, I think he is cute
I just don't like how obnoxious charizard-fags were for 5 fucking generations, screaming that MUH BRO should be better and then GF went and made it really fucking ridiculous AND gave it two megas to boot.
>>24749876
I've been as big of a Pokemon fan from the beginning as anyone here, and I have literally never encountered these types of people.
>>24749962
This.
Charizard fans have always been mild-mannered and pleasant to be around.
>>24749962
They usually stick to places online that reasonable folk would never go, like the YouTube comments section.
I met one in real life though. It was horrifying.
>see a retro game shop in a mall and check it out
>cool shit like never-opened N64s and GB classics
>having a pretty rad time
>look at the large assortment of used Pokemon games in a cabinet
>some pimply fat 30-something starts talking to me
>asks me if I like Pokemon
>say yes
>he launches into this fucking story of how he loves his Charizard so much and how he was super butthurt that he couldn't bring his original one from Red all the way up to modern day
>isthisreallife.png
>there is a genuine human being in front of me acting EXACTLY like a genwunner insulting parody
>he's still going on about how he raised another Charizard in FireRed and he's been transferring it up through every gen getting every ribbon he can and trying to battle with it online even though he knows it has shit stats and moves
>try to walk away and keep shopping
>he follows me around telling me about his fucking Charizard
>give up and leave the store
They're rarely seen in public, thank god, but they legitimately do exist. It's freaky.
>>24750045
This is fake, right?
I mean, sperglords in YouTube is one thing but IRL?
>>24750278
It's real, unfortunately. The guy working behind the counter was giving me a look that said, "Welcome to my personal hell."
>>24750321
I will asume people like that are a rare breed.
>>24750325
It's more that they rarely interact with people irl. There's probably a lot more than you think. Imagine working in that retro game store, one of the very few places that sperglords like that will physically travel to. Imagine having to deal with at least one person like that every day, maybe more.
>>24750372
That sounds horrible.
Post cute Charizard.
>>24735496
>tfw Bro got hated on for being an archetype Staple, only for it to get nerfed one Generation Later.
Name my Bro.
>>24752117
Hydreigon?
>>24746061
It's not a meme if it's forced.
>>24752103
Anon every charizard is cute
>>24745407
>>24745081
>le blue flames are hotter
please stop perpetuating this stupid meme. fire does not become blue at a certain temperature. blue just means more combustion of a substance, and a higher oxygen ratio. a substance that burns hotter will still emit a hotter flame, even if some of the oxygen is blocked thus making it yellow.
a) like thing (subjectively)
b) dislike thing (subjectively)
c) more general attention towards disliked thing (objectively)
d) dislike thing more (subjectively)
There's your ebin explanation. If you dislike something solely because you're a contrarian fig that works too, I guess, even though it is cringey.
Any good art of Mega Charizards just doing shit?
>>24746348
everyone hated greninja because he was the most popular choice in everything when it came to smash and the competitive play in the games, the new form just pushed it even further. Plus the fact that he was one of the first mon leaked and everyone who wanted him fake got BTFO.
>>24746348
Ash and his Greninja aren't special. Plenty of other trainers both in universe or as players have built a hell of a lot more of a bond with their Pokemon than they'll ever have.
We'd better get more of this as soon as this kind of unique form debuts in the games.
>>24745088
Damn, this pic is awesome.
