Make him OU. Add any moves or ability but no mega, stat changes or type changes.
Huge Power
Tough claws.
>>24735322
OU? Guts + Drain punch
Uber? Huge Power :^)
protean :}
shadow tag :}
Mega with Vital Spirit.
He'd go to OU with nearly any decent ability.
>>24735322
Huge Power
Dragon Dance
Extreme Speed
Done.
>>24735333
I feel like Guts and Drain Punch would still make it Uber.
wonder guard
>>24735510
Ubers
>>24735322Adaptability
>>24735322
scrappy
>>24735322
>Skill Swap
pretty much any other ability
Scrappy + Extreme Speed
Just remove Traunt.
That's all it literally needs to be good.
>Everyone saying he can easily be ou
Considering his massive movepool, decent typing and good speed, He still would have a hard time fitting in ou without being overpowered.
>>24735510
>OU
That's AG material for fuck's sake
>>24735956
Yeah, a lot of people aren't considering that this thing is pretty much the perfect package as far as Normal-type Pokemon go.
>252+ Atk Slaking Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 235-277 (59.6 - 70.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
This is what it can do while burned.
Speed boost
PROPER SUGGESTION HERE:Defeatist
>>24735322
New Item: Negates the ability of the holder.
Done. It'll be like a Mega without the slot.
Gluttony has abilty would be enough to make him useful
>>24736138
What is Klutz?
>>24736157
>what is reading comprehension
>>24736157
An ability Slaking doesn't have.
Remove truant. Give him Stall.
huge power
fake out
extreme speed
shadow sneak
psych up
>>24736204
At that point you might as well just give Regigigas Protect and Rest. Or a fucking moveset.
>>24735333
>Guts + Drain punch
>Only OU
You absolute madman
>>24735333
>252+ Atk Choice Band Guts Slaking Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 186-220 (55.6 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
nothing in ou is walling him
>>24735322
Slow start
Defeatist
Stall
Normalize
All of these would make him better than he is now.
>slow start
he has recovery and actually fucking learns protect.
>stall
Oh boo hoo the bulky gorilla with 160 attack and recovery went last.
>Normalize
Who needs coverage anyway.
>defeatist
biggest stretch of the lot. But it's actually bulky unlike archeops.
Ridiculously minmaxed for a 680 bst mon. 65 special attack is silly low.
>>24736157
An ability that does the opposite of what anon posted
>>24736581
>Normal Stab Pursuit
>Stab Focus Punch
>Stab Sucker Punch
The horror.
Also he has 65 SPECIAL DEFENSE. If his special defense and special attack switched, he'd be much better.
>>24736144
Gluttony + Liechi/Salac Berry + Slack Off + EV's invested in bulk. Would be a fun set, actually. Bulky attackers are cool.
>>24735322
literally any ability but truant would make him OU. he has monstrous stats and tons of moves.
>>24735322
Know it's not the point of the thread but if Truant just lowered speed every turn (a reverse Speed Boost), Slaking would be good.
>>24738892
but that would ruin its entrainment/skill swap potential.
>make him OU
Remove Traunt.
Give him Pressure or something, with those stats and that movepool, his ability is the only thing keeping him back.
Role Play
>>24742749
remember mewtwo is ubers with pressure and unnerve and the same bst. Just giving it pressure would make it ubers.
i want a slaking mega that makes him normal/dragon and gets rid of truant
>>24736187
An ability Slaking should have*
I'll laugh if his potential mega gives no stat boosts or changes, his sprite animation just shows him standing up and looking mad, and his ability changes to Iron Fist. He really needs nothing else.
>>24735322
hidden ability: slow start
it fits the theme, still hinders the massive beast, but it has protect and substitute so it can deal with it better
>>24735322
to make him OU he needs a shitty filler ability like pressure or clear body or something
>>24735322
>OU
Klutz. It'd be like a second Mega.
What about slow start?
>>24735359
>no mega
>>24735322
Defeatist
Actually makes some sense because he's a lazy fuck but isn't crippling to the point of Truant
Raise Feint's base power and give it to Slaking.
Or maybe change Truant to still allow Slaking to use moves like Slack Off, Yawn, etc.
Slow start would be the only existing ability that would keep it out of ubers. Shit, the only reason why it's so bad now is that you can predict when it'll loaf.
A new ability might be one that lets you choose to loaf on the first turn for unpredictability, an ability that only lets you alternate between attacking and status, or loafing that acts like Regenerator.
>>24742755
this makes the most sense
>force him to spend a turn removing Truant
>it loses to Taunt
>it's not skill swapping Truant into something else so it's just a turn of removing your own disadvantage
>limits him to 3 moves
>>24746022
Give it a stamina system. It starts with 2 out of 3; using a move decreases it and loafing increases it.
>>24742758
It would probably be suspect tested but there is no guarantee that it'd be uber. Mewtwo has unfair speed and is much harder to wall.
Defeatist
>>24735322
really the only thing that'd make him ou without going ubers as far as abilities go would be like klutz
Something useless like Own Tempo or Oblivious. Bulkier Hoopa-U but STAB doesn't hit anything SE.
>>24747541
>Oblivious
>Useless
Give him the ability Slow Start. Have him use Protect on his first turn, some attack, then Protect, some attack, then protect again. Then the "curse" is lifted and he can continue to rape shit.
>>24747576
I forgot that gen6 makes it now work against taunt. My bad.
>>24735322
>stats on par with two box legends
>hard to make OU
And unlike Kyurem Black it actually has an exceptional movepool. It would be hard enough to keep it in OU.
Regenerator + SubPunch
Ubers ahoy
>>24742777
That wouldn't be any different than if that item above existed. If it did Regigigas could easily make use of it too. And hell Trick users.
>all these retards suggesting Slow Start
The only reason Slaking is better than Regigigas with that ability is because it actually has a fucking moveset. Wouldn't it be easier to just give Regigigas a healing move or Protect?
No fucking shit Slow Start isn't bad if Slaking has the tools to stall it out.
>>24735915
>>24735949
>>24735956
>>24736138
>>24736144
>>24738844
>>24746513
Reminder that diggersby, terrakion, thundurus-therian, and victini are all BL. It doesn't matter how powerful you are, with only 100 base speed something will outspeed and kill you (hi keldeo). Diggersby is still more powerful than slaking and unlike mega kangaskhan's solid bulk slaking gets rekt on the special side, which is worsened by the fact that slaking has no resistances as a normal type. Unless slaking gets something like adaptability it would end up BL with truant taken away.
>>24748898
Not really, depending on which ability it could have 100 speed is more than enough for a choice scarf set, and with slaking vast moveset you could have some trouble finding suitable counters for everything he could potentially have.
>>24748898
Here's a few things slaking with lets say vital spirit can do that diggersby can not.
-Pull a special move out its ass to utterly meme rocky helmet garchomp or skarmory. It learns ice beam and fire blast after all, and 95 special attack will get the job done. Tyranitar is known to run ice beam for this same reason, it has base 95 special attack too. Fire blast garchomp another example, slaking can do that.
-Have coverage of the gods. It even learns play rough.
-Use drain punch.
-Outspeed (unboosted) altaria, dragonite, excadrill. gliscor (<-important), hoopa-u, kyu-b, lando-t, scrotom wash and venusaur. Would be a fine scarf. And a fine band. And a fine life orb. And a fine leftovers. And a fine rocky helmet.
-Base 150 HP
-Recovery
-Taunt
>with only 100 base speed something will outspeed and kill you (hi keldeo)
252 SpA Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Slaking: 278-330 (63 - 74.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Hi keldeo!
252+ Atk Slaking Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Keldeo: 274-324 (84.8 - 100.3%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Slaking Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Keldeo: 274-324 (84.8 - 100.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes
And the things diggersby can do that slaking can't?
-Quick attack
-Belly drum
-Have an effective 2 more base attack
56 base stat invested with a modifier of 2.0x with a boosting nature is equivalent to a base stat of 162 invested with a boosting nature.
That's it.
BL for sure though, you're right.
>>24748987
>252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Slaking: 414-488 (93.6 - 110.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
be realistic here
>>24749026
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyurem-W: 452-534 (115.6 - 136.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
kyurem-w for BL
>>24749049
Kyurem-b is almost BL and a lot of people want a kyurem-w suspect test for ou. You can theorymon all you want, people thought mega gallade would be s-rank in ou and possibly be banned and look what happened to it now. People thought kyurem-b would break ubers in gen V and it's barely ou. Raw stats mean nothing, florges and arcanine have among the highest base stat totals of none-legendary pokemon and both are heavily outclassed.
>>24749072
i never mentioned kyurem-b
>>24749076
>what is reading comprehension
>>24749072
>people thought mega gallade would be s-rank in ou and possibly be banned
On /vp/? We were saying that it was shit because
>Inner Focus
>>24749087
my point is that >>24748898 is silly
i'm not sure why you're rambling on about stats unless you're saying slaking shouldn't be judged on its BST but unlike kyurem-b slaking's got a decent typing and a great movepool so idk what you're going on about you don't seem to be comprehending any part of this thread
>>24749072
The thing is, all the pokemon you used as examples while having a high stat total are outclassed by another pokemon with a more focused stat distribution or simply better type combination, you could argue that Slaking would be too niche for OU with only normal STAB but with almost any other ability he isn't outright outclassed by anything. Serperior of all things, being pure grass is still solid in OU and people were having doubts if only Contrary, despite being an insanely useful abilty, would be enough to keep it in there for long. Depending on what he gets Slaking could go straight to Ubers, no doubt about it.
>>24749088
Inner Focus is awesome for doubles.
>>24748987
I wonder how good he'd be if you went max HP or defenses or something. Maybe max hp and attack.
>>24749395
missing out on speed there.
Realistically it's 252 special defence and attack for a bulky set.
Witness.
252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Slaking: 186-219 (42 - 49.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Slaking: 253-298 (50.1 - 59.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Diminishing returns and all that jazz.
>>24736138
This could work. Makes Slaking viable (And Regigigas too) but they're effectively itemless and still has to look out for Knock Off.
Buff(?) Truant:
Slaking can only attack/use status moves every other turn, but during his "truancy" turns, he's forced to use status moves like Screech, Protect, or Substitute.
Still countered by Protect, but it's an improvement.
>>24735322
Stall.
Works thematically and doesn't cripple it as much as Truant.
>>24735330
this
>>24742789
Would be weaker than Kang
>>24748987
Diggersby tho
>>24748898
>Diggersby is still more powerful than slaking
but Diggersby doesnt have a 680 BST. okay it might hit kind of hard and have ... well I dont know what Diggers' Speed stat is.
But they dont have Slaking's fuckhuge HP
>>24749072
>a kyurem-w suspect test
No, nobody wants this. Reshiram, sure.
White Kyurem? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.
>>24749088
We were saying Gallade was going to be shit because nobody expected its Defense stat to rise so damn much but once it did, it turns out Mega Kangaskhan's Fake Out cannot OHKO it giving MeGalla time to drain punch the bitch in the face or force her to use Return, getting her killed by Close Combat. All that on top of the fact that Knock Off does fuckall AND activates Justified if it switches in before mega evolving.
>>24735322
Truant allows you to attack twice in a row, exactly like Parental Bond, on non-loafing around turns.
>>24748898
>slaking gets rekt on the special side
252 SpA Life Orb Abomasnow Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 224 SpD Mewtwo: 175-207 (42 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Life Orb Abomasnow Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 224 SpD Slaking: 214-253 (42.4 - 50.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
Sure is getting wrecked over here.
>>24751223
Or how about:
On the loafing turn, Truant restores 25% Max HP and removes any Status ailment.
>>24748898
>252 Atk Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Slaking: 196-232 (38.9 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Nice move :^)
0 SpA Mew Psycho Boost vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Diggersby: 187-222 (60.1 - 71.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Mew Psycho Boost vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Slaking: 214-253 (48.5 - 57.3%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
Nice bulk :^)
>>24746011
>Or maybe change Truant to still allow Slaking to use moves like Slack Off, Yawn, etc.
that's not a bad idea. maybe make it so that it can use non-attacking moves on the truant turns? sure it's still fucked over by taunt but it's better than what it is now
>>24759057
What if Gamefreak made a move like Quick Guard for debilitating status? I.e., confusion and Taunt etc., but not Burn/Toxic etc. (and wouldnt prevent the effects, just the activation of moves that ONLY cause them. confuse ray and taunt but not Dizzy Punch or Scald)
>>24759057
Maybe it can only use lazy moves on the truant turns. Yawn, Slack Off, Rest, etc.
>>24747590
Slow Start could be worse than Truant. He'd be a less impressive Regigigas without the power to revenge kill on the fly.
doubles with a pokemon who knows gastro acid
thats how i use him in ou
>>24762967
OU is a singles metagame though.
>>24738892
>>24738900
>that in a trick room team
>>24758963
>a stronger Mega Kangaskhan, but only attacks every other turn
I want to this how this would play out.
>>24763068
I want to see*
Two ideas
1. The truant turns only happen after slaking (successfully) attacks. Basically truant makes every attacking move require a recharge turn
2. Each turn, truant users have a 25% chance to loaf around. Does not stack with para
