You know. It's strange. I tend to see more people on sites such as Smashboards who would rather have Sceptile as a newcomer in Smash than Blaziken. But why? Blaziken is more popular. I myself would be happy with either of them though.
>>24728384
>would rather have Sceptile as a newcomer in Smash than Blaziken. But why?
Easy. Muh patterns, as always
>Fire Starter in Charizard
>Water Starter in Greninja
>Hoenn just got a remake
It's just patternfags who think Sceptile "deserves" to get in just because there's a water starter and a fire starter even though it literally doesn't matter at all and it's a shitty choice otherwise.
I don't want any Pokemon characters except Ivysaur and Squirtle coming back.
I don't want anymore Pokemon.
But if we had to, I'd want Emolga as a lightweight Charizard clone
>>24728405
>I'd want Emolga
Holy shit, this. Emolga is like my all time favorite Pokemon.
>>24728405
>Emolga as a lightweight Charizard clone
Please explain how this would work
>>24728405
>charizard clone
fucking how
>>24728421
Turn rock smash into electro ball, replace flamethrower with whatever Pikachu's neutral B is supposed to be, call the side B Spark instead of Flare Blitz and remove recoil, all tilts aerials and smashes can be the same in general animations but faster, weaker, and smaller
Though semi-clone would be more accurate
>>24728384
>people keep posting about Blaziken and Sceptile in smash, which would require extra resources from Sora and Namco and whoever else is working on this shit
>people even post about Pichu, the epitome of a shitmon and wasted potential, but wouldn't require too many new assets
>no one wants Squirtle or Ivysaur back, who would be fine chars if not for Ivysaur's shit recovery and the retarded fatigue mechanic, and instead only Charizard, the worst of the three, returned
explain this
>>24728384
Considering how picky the Pokemon Company has been with their IP, I doubt any of the newcomers will be Pokemon.
>>24728524
It's so lame that we only got one Pokémon newcomer in this Smash though when Brawl had four (or two if you count Pokémon Trainer as an individual character). Pokémon has so much character variety, yet they couldn't be bothered to give us more?!
>>24728595
>tfw all the pokemon characters are complete garbage except pikachu
>Pokemon is originator for both joke characters, Pichu and Jigglypuff
y
>>24728595
>yet they couldn't be bothered to give us more?!
kill yourself
>>24728606
>Pokémon has also lost the most veterans out of any series despite being Top 2 of Nintendo.
>>24728625
Let me guess. You want Wolf back.
>>24728655
more than a new Pokemon
>>24728676
You have awful taste for preferring a Fox semiclone to a new Pokémon.>Pokémon had more reps than Mario in Brawl (Pikachu, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Jigglypuff and Lucario compared to just Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser), but apparently we can't have the same thing happen in this Smash because... reasons.
>Pokémon has unfairly lost more veterans than any other series
>said veterans all had unique movesets
>There are hundreds of potential Pokémon that would be great fighters
No. You're fucking wrong. We don't have "too many Pokémon." There are people who want more Pokémon in Smash. Just look on Smashboards and you will see threads supporting Sceptile, Delphox, Blastoise, Gengar, and others.
Yet you are fine with Wolf, a boring semiclone, back. Fuck you.
>>24728716
shut your entitled ass up and wait for Pokkenyou know, you're actually in luck, if GF and Bamco bug Sakurai about a mon from Pokken to be Sm4sh DLC
>>24728716
I would rather have Wolf because minimal effort and it helps with my arbitrary antagonist quota, also Pokemon already has plenty of reps anyways even if I don't really care about any of them. I wouldn't bitch if we got more Pokemon though.I don't even like Star Fox other than the SNES game
>>24728475
>up smash
>down smash
>side smash
>uair
>dair
>dtilt
Is "none" close to or exactly the amount of thought you've put into this?
>>24728606
>he thinks jigglypuff is a joke character
>when hbox exists
>>24728844
Jigglypuff is a shit Pokémon who only is only still in Smash because Sakurai is lazy and could just copy Kirby's model. It pisses me off that this worthless filler trash has permanently taken the spot of more deserving Pokémon.
>>24729037
>Sakurai is lazy
don't disrespect the OG 12
>>24729037
Jigglypuff is pretty boss who has a unique moveset as well as a fun gimmick.
>>24728384
Sceptile is cooler, blazifag is overrated as fuck
>>24728384
Because Sceptile is based, has fantastic moveset potential, and it's nice to give the always-neglected Grass type a little bit of love.
Frankly I'd love to get both of them, though. Blaziken would be very simple to make a Captain Falcon semiclone out of, so it's not like having both would take a hugely larger amount of resources than just one.
Basically what I'm saying is they're both great Pokemon and could easily earn their keep in Smash.
How about neither of them?
>mfw This Thread
>>24728401
>>24729787
Both of these.
should be sceptile
With the new RBY remakes, I wouldn't be surprised if Venusaur came in to fuel the hype train. Or Ivysaur.
>Playing smash snore
>Pikachu
>Jigglypuff
>Greninja
>Mewtwo
>Lucario
>Charizard
And you want MORE pokemon?
Shut your entitled ass up. You have 6. SIX. slots on the roster, which could, and SHOULD have easily been 3. Pikachu, Mewtwo, and MAYBE Greninja for new rep. Charizard is pandering, and Jigglypuff, while a vet since 64, has long overstayed its welcome. And lucario should have stayed with brawl as a gen 4 newcomer.
Let other Series' have slots. Pokemons got enough. We still don't have Golden sun, Advance wars, Survival kids, Custom robo, Sin and punishment, Pushmo or Teleroboxer Reps, so let them get a chance.
Greedy poke fags.
>>24730812
>so let them get a chance.
Maybe if you named a single series that isn't ass
>>24730812
>Greedy
>They can add as many or as few characters as they want
>>>/v/
>>24730812
>second top selling series in the company should only have 3 reps
>Charizard is pandering
>pushmo needs reps
>survival kids needs reps
>teleroboxer needs reps
>but lets leave Charizard & Lucario in Brawl
Have there ever been more retarded opinions than these?
Maybe we should also replace Luigi with the guy from Bad Street Brawler.
>>24730400
Why is Shota almost black in this picture? It'd be so perfect aside from that.
>>24730885
I'll be honest, they should remove Lucario and Jigglypuff if it meant having Sceptile and some other cool character in. But to be completely fair, the Mario series does have like 10 reps. So, really, Pokemon having 7 when it probably is the 2nd most prominent series isn't bad.
>>24730812
The only games that come close to outselling Pokemon are Mario, which has 8 characters. Pokemon has way more character variety than any other of Nintendo's series, and yet things like Fire Emblem have almost as many characters.
Fucking Kid Icarus has 3 characters, there's a hell of a lot more fat to trim other than Pokemon especially since they have ALL original characters as opposed to clones like Falco and Lucas.
>>24730941
Yeah, let's remove characters before adding DLC to preserve fair representation of franchises. What a great idea, dumbass.
>>24730999
Not from Smash 4 as it is. I mean they should have not included Lucario/Jigglypuff in Smash 4 in the first place.
Ivysaur please. It's a veteran, a grass type, quadruped and has completely unique moveset.
>>24731018
Jigglypuff was in the N64, GameCube and Wii Smash games, there was no way they were going to remove a character that was in all three previous titles.
>>24728384
Blaziken isn't more popular. Don't be fooled by the furfags and Sugimori's favoritism. Between Ash's Sceptile and the general love for the Mudkip line, Blaziken has always been dead last among the Hoenn starters in the general public's eye.
>>24731061
Veteran status isnt anywhere near as important as keeping a clean, sizeable and ciosistent roster.
Those old games exist, they're not going anywhere, so theres no need to bring over everyone from previous games.
We could easily have lost: Jigglypuff, Wolf, Lucario, Lucas, Roy, Ike, Luigi, Peach, Diddy, Toon link, Shiek, ZSS, Falco, Meta knight, and Dr. Mario and nobody would care.
New additions are better welcomed, and while we could have done without Dark pit and Lucina, At least they're new.
I didnt buy smash to play the exact same game from 4 years ago. I welcome all forms of new characters over these old has-beens.
>>24730812
>second best selling game franchise of all time with massive character variety with a decent handful of exceptionally popular faces
>should only have 3 playable
6/56 is pretty fine for a juggernaut franchise going strong for just shy of 20 years. 7/57 wouldn't be insanity either, assuming we get a new one as DLC
you can easily argue the case for FE though; 5 characters from an extensively niche franchise, 2 of which are benign growths off of Marth
>>24731122
>and nobody would care
That's really the problem. People do care about that kind of stuff for some reason. Also we did lose Wolf.
>>24731122
But that's just you. Look at all the crying over Wolf and Snake. Dumping ten veterans would be stupid.
>>24731122
>We could easily have lost Luigi
Luigi being ditched for Smash 5 would make Mega Man being ditched for MvC3 look irrelevant
speaking of Mega Man,i honestly think they should ditch 3rd parties in Smash 5
>>24728384
I want Ivysaur back
If it's Ivysaur with a Sceptile skin I'm fine
>>24731122
who would you replace with those "easily lost" characters?
>>24731204
I'd be fine with anyone, as long as they're new. I have no favorites or prefences i'd like to see. IF ridley spammers ever got their way i'd be fine with it only because its different.
Could be another left field thing like fucking laura croft and I wouldnt care.
>>24731098
Wrong. Torchic is cute. CUTE!!!! oh my nards
>>24731122
>Shiek
Ok, 1: learn to spell. 2: You just went full retard. Sheik is the GOAT Smash character and if you don't agree with me I suppose you just have shit taste. Dumb fuck
>>24731357
Sheik could easily still be Zelda's down B. All it did was make Zelda pointless to play as. no need for him taking up a slot.
>>24731134
>6/56
>7/57
>57
Thats the problem right there. It shouldn't be that big to begin with, now it feels like some clusterfuck fanfic flash game. Even 30 was pushing it.
Quality > Quanitiy
>>24731098
As a Sceptilefag, you're so wrong. Blaziken has always been the most popular from day 1:
>advertised in Johto saga of anime kicking Ash's Charizard's ass
>first one to get Mega Evolution out of the Hoenn starters and is better, competitively
>is the only Hoenn starter in Pokken Tournament
Believe me, I hate Blaziken, but it's definitely more popular than the other two.
>>24728384
We have enough fire and it would be nice to play as Mega Sceptile.
>>24730812
>Pokémon had more reps than Mario in Brawl (Pikachu, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, Jigglypuff and Lucario compared to just Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser), but apparently we can't have the same thing happen in this Smash because... reasons.
>Pokémon has unfairly lost more veterans than any other series
>said veterans all had unique movesets
>There are hundreds of potential Pokémon that would be great fighters
No. You're fucking wrong. We don't have "too many Pokémon." There are people who want more Pokémon in Smash. Just look on Smashboards and you will see threads supporting Sceptile, Delphox, Blastoise, Gengar, and others.
I bet you are one of those blokes who wants Shantae, irrelevant indie fapbait. Fuck you. Also, those niche series you listed are NOTHING compared to the titan that is Pokémon.
>>24731098
Yeah, I'm sure that's why Blaziken got its Mega Evolution a full year before the other two did. Stay in denial Sceptilefag.
>>24731893
Don't assume he's a Sceptilefag just because of his misinformation. He could easily be a Swampertfag for all we know.
IMO cloud should be taken out and replaced with a pokemon DESU senpai
a new pokemon or two need to be announced
>>24731925
only Sceptilefags are this delusional.
>>24730812
>unironically wanting fucking Pushmo to be represented as a playable character in Smash Bros.
Oh sure. Let's make Nintendogs playable too. And the dice from Crimson Shroud! And the fucking puddle of water from Spin Cycle, you stupid piece of shit.
>>24731940
Wrong. There are many more fans that are delusional than Sceptilefags. Daisy and Gokufags for one. Not to mention Swampertfags who believe their Pokémon is more popular than Sceptile are delusional because Sceptile has had far more screentime in the anime than Swampert.
>>24732053
>Not to mention Swampertfags who believe their Pokémon is more popular than Sceptile
That's the thing. No Swampertfag actually thinks this. They recognize that their starter isn't the most popular. They're humble and just like their bro in peace. But Sceptilefags have to go around parading around their stupid lizard thinking it's somehow the best because of their superiority complex to Blaziken.
>>24732079
But I've seen Swampertfags say he's more popular than Sceptile.
>>24732079
Sceptilefag here. I agree that Blaziken is more popular but Sceptile and its line, in both AG and XY, has had a more prominent role in the anime than Blaziken's line.
>>24732079
Bullshit. I've seen plenty of Swampertfags say Sceptile is the least popular. You're just defending them because you're probably a Swampertfag yourself. You can't judge an entire Pokémon's fanbase based on what a few people say.
>>24732079
>go around parading around
Learn more words you fucking Helioptile
>>24732130
AG sure, but XY's been more Blaziken.
>>24732168
Yeah. XY was more Blaziken but XY&Z will feature Mega Sceptile in a prominent role.
>>24732172
Until they throw Clemont's dad into the fray again.
>>24732168
Has been, I guess. But see >>24730400. Ash's main rival has a Treecko line that will be able to Mega Evolve. As for >>24732172, I typically consider XY&Z to fall within the realm of "XY", and considering Sceptile is probably going to become a major character while Blaziken appeared in 6 episodes and Shota's Sceptile (or other such forms) has already appeared in 5 episodes (not even counting that he's in the opening), he's probably going to be more prominent.
>>24732194
He might appear in a couple Flare episodes once they get to Lumiose City.I'd still like to see him Mega Evolve his Ampharos, who's been pushed to the back burners since the beginning of the series.
>>24730812
>posts a picture of Shantae
Neither will be in. There are already more than enough Pokemon in Smash Bros.
>>24728384
Personality I think the Pokémon reps in Smash 4 should've been something like
>Pikachu
>Jigglypuff (Personally I'd replace it with Wigglytuff but whatever)
>Mewtwo
>Pokémon trainer with Chespin, Braixen and Greninja
>>24730812
>You have 6. SIX. slots on the roster, which could, and SHOULD have easily been 3.
no lol, pokemon is the second or third highest grossing nintendo series
>Charizard is pandering
popularity ≠ pandering fucktard, it's marketing
>Jigglypuff, while a vet since 64, has long overstayed its welcome
how
it has a very original and fun play style and is a fan favorite
>And lucario should have stayed with brawl as a gen 4 newcomer
its popular lol, why wouldnt you just copypaste from brawl for an ez roster slot to fill?
thank god you arent on the smash production team. have u ever even made a game? haha
>>24732782
Pokemon Trainer is such a shitty gimmick, and I'm glad it will forever be gone from Smash Bros. Greninja was all we needed.
FUCK WHAT YOU ALL SAY, WE NEED YOKAI WATCH!!!
>>24732959
I'm glad transformations are gone in general.
>>24732529
Look at >>24731886
>>24732959
>>24733077
Transformations will be back in the next Smash game with more powerful hardware along with ICs.
>>24728384
Why not both?
Why not Yokai watch?! There are SIX Pokemon already....
>>24733154
Yokai Watch is a failure in the west. It only sold five digits.
>>24731886
The reason in Brawl was because Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard were all part of one character.
And really, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Pichu are not that great of a loss.
>>24733106
Transformations will never be back. Not after they split Sheik and ZSS up. ICs will be back for sure, however.
>>24733416
I kinda miss Squirtle, but Smash 4 has the one character I felt fitted me more than anything inMii Gunner.
>>24731187
>>24731046
>>24728501
>>24730627
>>24731886
>>24728402
these are the only people in this thread who I am NOT coming to murder tonight with a rusty meat cleaver.
>>24730812
and you're first, you ignorant drooling mongoloid
>>24733154
I agree Yokai watch would be great
>>24731046
Reskin to venusaur so his final smash can be mega.
>>24733849
transformation smashes are gay though
Also Mega Venusaurs would just be "become ridiculously fucking slow and hit harder" or some stupid shit
>>24733888
your first sentence and last four words were all really lame, but I loved the rest of your post Mr. TripsSeriously I want Venusaur and I want him big and fat and slow
>>24730627
Those are ports. Not remakes. And hasn't Gen 1 gotten enough love already?
>>24731187
>>24731046
>>24728402
>>24733621
>unironically wanting more Gen 1 representation when it already has more than enough.
Gen 3 just had a remake last year and is still the most recent mainline Pokémon game, yet it got absolutely no content in Smash besides a couple of worthless trophies. And don't say, "It was too new!" Yoshi's Woolly World got a stage for fucks sake. We need a Gen 3 rep. Anyone who disagrees is a blind Genwunner. Simple as that.
>>24734070
No one cares about which gen gets "reps." Ivysaur is still far better than Sceptile is because it's actually a unique quadruped fighter instead of another stupid lizard or another character that uses slashing attacks. Your anti-genwun faggotry and fuck off. ;)
I honestly don't think we have too many Pokémon. It's one of Nintendo's most important and iconic series. If anything, it deserves eight reps since every Smash game since the first has had two additional Pokémon reps in each game. 64 had 2. Melee had 4. Brawl had 6 (PT's Pokémon had unique movesets). Why wouldn't Sm4sh have 8? What other character besides a third-party, which we already have enough of, would cause more hype than a Pokémon newcomer? King K. Rool is extremely irrelevant and is practically unknown to casuals. Dixie Kong is practically female Diddy. Impa looks very similar to Sheik. Bandana Dee is pretty much the equivalent to a Goomba with a hat. Paper Mario is another Mario. Daisy is...you already know. There are no other Nintendo characters I can think of, besides Inkling, that would be better than a Pokémon newcomer.
>>24734085
Fuck Gen 1. Other generations deserve attention too. Just because you're a grandpa who grew out of Pokémon and quit the series doesn't mean you have to ruin everything for us newer Pokémon fans. Genwunners are the cancer killing Pokémon, and Game Freak and TPC are fucking imbeciles who keep on catering to them.
>>24734085
>another stupid lizard
>another character who uses slashing attacks
Who cares? We already have like 10 anime-esque swordsmen in the game. Another lizard would not hurt. Besides, Ivysaur is just like Jigglypuff. It's an irrelevant Pokémon that should have never been added to Smash in the first place.
>>24734126
>We already have like 10 anime-esque swordsmen in the game.
And you want ANOTHER character that attacks in pretty much the same fucking way sword fighters do? No thanks.
>Besides, Ivysaur is just like Jigglypuff.
What, as in they're both characters that are actually UNIQUE and fun to play instead of just retarded patternfag choices like Sceptile?
>>24734146
I can guarantee you that more people would be hyped for Sceptile than a veteran who doesn't even have a Mega Evolution and is no longer relevant.
>>24734159
>muh relevance
Jigglypuff is more relevant to the Smash Bros series than Sceptile EVER will be.
>waaah I want ANOTHER mega evolution final smash because somehow there aren't already enough of those!
yup, I get it, you want patterns. But not everyone does. ;)
>>24734170
I just don't get the mentality of people who would rather have a veteran than someone new and interesting. People would not have been as hyped for Snake as Cloud if he was revealed instead.
>>24734189
Snake is better than Cloud. One is a character who plays differently from everyone else from the cast. Another is another anime swordsman. New does not equate to better.
>>24734207
Cloud isn't even out. How do you know how he plays? Shulk, for example, plays nothing at all like any other sword user in the game.
>>24731183
You really think they'll dump Sonic and risk losing the autistic 12-year-old audience?
>>24734207
So you're not only a Genwunner but you legitimately think Cloud is a less hype-worthy character than Snake. Fuck veteranfags. We get the chance to have brand new characters never-before playable in Smash, yet you would rather strip that away from us...
Starters are fucking shit. I want Gengar in.
>>24734243
Fuck off. You already have Gengar in Pokken you ungrateful piece of shit.
>>24734224
>Cloud isn't even out. How do you know how he plays?
It's not hard to tell. With Shulk you could immediately see that he plays differently. Cloud is mostly Ike but with a boosting move similar to WFT. It's not that impressive.
>>24734237
>Cloud is a less hype-worthy character than Snake
Cloud is only more hype worthy because it's a shiny new toy. But once that newness wears off Snake is a far better gameplay choice.
>>24734248
There can never be enough Gengar
>>24734258
There can always be too much Gen 1 though. Why do you refuse to give other Gens a chance. Stop acting like Gen 1 is the only gen in Pokémon.
>>24733888
I imagined it'd be like mewtwo.
He'd fire an instant death attack, he'd just turn mega to do that first.
>>24734275
It's not about some arbitrary need to have all gens represented, it's about finding a pokemon that is
>Popular
Whether you like it or not, Gen 1 is the most popular thanks to nostalgia fags and having 20 years of exposure.
>Unique
Ivysaur is debatably more unique than Sceptile even simply by virtue of its body type. I don't even care about either, I want Squirtle to come back
>Interesting to play as
There are many ways to do this so I won't comment on this
>>24734251
>Cloud is mostly Ike but with a boosting move similar to WFT.
So you're basically just admitting you're a retard?
>>24734712
So what if Gen 1 is the most popular? Greninja isn't anywhere near as iconic as a Gen 1 Pokémon, but he's playable. Earthbound is the most popular game of the Mother series, but we got Lucas.
>>24734806
Because the discussion is who should be added, so a character already playable in the game should probably be exempt from discussion, no?
>>24734813
It doesn't matter if Gen 1 is the most popular. Just because it's the most popular and well-known doesn't mean all the other gens should be ignored. If all the 3D Mario games were ignored, we wouldn't have Rosalina or Bowser Junior. If all the 3D Zelda games were ignored, we wouldn't have Sheik, Ganondorf, or Toon Link. Nostalgia is a disease that clouds people's judgment, and it's not fair to deny other Pokémon their chance to shine just because of stubborn grandpas who can't let go of the past.
If they ever bring back Pichu, I want them to give him a unique moveset as well as having every single Pikaclone as an alternate costume.
That way all gens are represented, so people can argue less about stupid shit.
>>24734897
>Raichu as a pikachu alt never
>>24734871
>we wouldn't have Sheik, Ganondorf, or Toon Link
>wouldn't have
>Toon Link
A compelling argument for ignoring the 3D Zelda games.
I think the reason why a lot of people obsess over reps in Smash, is because they're upset that their favorite series hasn't gotten as many characters, trophies, stages etc. like other series have had. Out of spite, they would say: "No, X franchise has enough reps! Y franchise deserves much more representation", ignoring the fact that X franchise may still have interesting characters to pull from.
Pokemon has only received 2 characters in this game(counting Mewtwo). Mario has received 3 (counting Dr. Mario) and FE has received 3 as well (counting Roy).
>>24734871
Mewtwo and Charizard were able to show off Mega Evolutions, a new mechanic for the franchise.
Plus, all gens are represented through Pokeball Pokemon. They don't need to be playable characters to be represented.
>>24734871
I can't really think of say, an iconic Gen 2 Pokemon who would be good as a playable character. iirc all the Legends either currently are or have previously been Pokeball Pokemon None of them have the popularity or exposure or perceived aggression of Mewtwo. Mewtwo even grew as a character in his movie, which is referenced in game.
That being the case, arbitrarily picking a gen 2 pokemon for the sake of it being a gen 2 pokemon isn't the best use of resources.
>>24735056
I don't think people should be so quick to dismiss a character just because of the series it comes from.
A lot of people seem to obsess over the concept of reps in Smash, because they're upset that their favorite series hasn't gotten as many characters, trophies, stages etc. like other series have had. Out of spite, they would say: "No, X franchise has enough reps! Y franchise deserves much more representation", ignoring the fact that X franchise may still have interesting characters to pull from.
Pokémon easily has the most amount of potential when it comes to characters. There are so many different body types to include and so many different elemental fighting styles to cover. In my opinion, despite the amount of Pokémon in this game already, Smash has only scratched the surface of Pokémon's potential.
The Pokémon series has only received 1 newcomer in this game. Meanwhile, the Mario series has received 2 and the niche Fire Emblem series has received 2 as well. I think one more Pokémon newcomer shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
>>24735148
Yeah but you have to consider that The Pokemon Company is a bitch to negotiate sometimes. Who knows if they'll let Samurai simply put any character he wants into Smash.
They have all the power to say no to a new addition in Smash.
>>24735156
I really don't get TPC. You'd think they'd be happy with their characters receiving promotion, but they refuse to let Yoshi's Woolly World costumes function with Pokémon amiibos and they didn't allow the Pokémon costumes in SMM to have their own sound effects. What the fuck is wrong with them?!
>>24730812
>Survival kids
>A Konami Game
>>24734871
>Nostalgia is a disease
Can we get a Dragon Type in there? Maybe Garchomp or Goodra?
>>24735296
We already have Mega Charizard X. A Grass-type is more necessary as its the only starter type w/o a rep in Smash.
>Not voting for Aegislash
Plebs
>>24735299
I feel like out of all the grass starters, they could do the most with Chesnaught.
>Slow, Bulky, moves around like Bowser
>Drain Punch to recover
>Wood Hammer with good range and power but recoil
>Spikes
>Bulletproof lets it take no damage from non-energy projectiles or simply no knockback from projectiles
>Superpower as recovery (little to none).
>Shield acts like Spiky Shield, making contacting opponents in front incur like 2% damage
Won't ever happen though because he's definitely not popular enough.
I don't get why people think Goku is impossible just because he's an anime character. Every Pokémon in Smash is directly based off of how they are portrayed in the anime, so technically the Pokémon are anime characters as well.
>>24731865
He LITERALLY JUST SAID ignore Sugi's chicken boner.
>>24728384
>Wanting yet another Pokémon
Why the fuck do people want EITHER of these when Greninja already fucking exists holy shit
How many ninja/fast characters does smash need before you will finally be satisfied
>>24736959
What character would you rather want anon? Some D-list characters like King K. Rool? More boring semiclones like Wolf?
>>24736959
This. It's not going to happen. Ice Climbers or bust
>>24737977
Because those are the edgy popular pokemon. Fast, ninja like etc
I'd love to have a bulkier pokemon like Kangaskhan or Emboar to be playable
>>24737996
Counting Yoshi and Wario, Mario has NINE characters. Why can't Nintendo's second-biggest series get one more newcomer when Waifu Emblem had 2? Also, the ICs are IMPOSSIBLE! Sakurai said it himself! Why do you keep hoping for the Ice Climbers when they're not possible?! You might as well ask for Ridley, too! Neither are happening for this Smash.
http://gamerant.com/super-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-why-ice-climbers-cut/
>>24736959
Enough with this bullshit. Pokémon has lost more veterans than any other series. We have every right to want another Pokémon newcomer when it has only gotten ONE while fucking Waifu Emblem and Kid Icarus got TWO.
>>24738012
Quoting that article you just posted
>there’s always a chance they could be brought back in future DLC – provided Nintendo plans on making it for the highly anticipated fighter.
>>24728384
Out of those two I'd rather have Sceptile. But I'd rather be surprised and have a pokemon playable that's not a starter. Maybe even Hoopa Unbound.
>>24738024
>magnus is the assist trophy and Dark pit is playable when it could've been the other way around
why was this allowed
>>24738066
Dark Pit was thrown in at the last minute because they could recycle non-dark pit's animations. It was really just a case of "Dark Pit or nobody".
>>24738024
It's not a big deal since Pokemon still has the 2nd most characters of any franchise in the game.
ctrl+F
'swampert'
Guys are you Serious right now
>>24738148
Swampert just isn't as popular as the other Hoenn starters. It doesn't help that it's had almost no screentime in the anime.
>>24738003
>Kangaskhan
Fuck. Off.
>defending Jigglyshit staying in
>ever
>>24735555
>this shit got quad 5s
>even mentioning Goku and Super Smash Bros together
Kill yourself.
>>24729787
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>>24730400
So with all these people wanting Sceptile, I have to wonder about what Sceptile's possible movement would be. If, hypothetically, Sceptile does get into Sm4sh, what would it's moveset be?
Only think I've got in mind is its Final Smash. It mega evolves, and fires off its tree-tail, with a huge leaf storm following it, in similar fashion like Mario's or Wii Fit Trainer. Or maybe something intensely precise, like Zelda or Dark Pit.
>tfw sceptilefag
>tfw everyone hates you
I'm not even a patternfag, I just like Sceptile
>>24737977
The faster a character is, the better chance they have to be a good character.
Nobody wants a character they suggest to be DDD or Ganon tier.
>>24738244
Sceptile is my favorite Pokémon. That's the main reason I want him in. The whole type trio thing is just an incentive.
>>24737987
King K. Rool is a fine choice. Unlikely though, since Retro got rid of kremlings and Sakurai is a huge xenophobe
>>24738239
There are movesets people made in Sceptile's page on Smashboards. Some of them include Dragon Breath, a D-special that has long endlag but stuns the foe. There's also Leaf Blade which can be used t slash opponents, and Energy Ball, which can function similarly to Samus's charge shot. Sceptile could essentially be a speedy, offensive character that has both close-range and long-range attacks while being very frail like Mewtwo.
