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Who would win?
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Charizard has 84 Att and 78 Def
Blue Eyes has 3000 Att and 2500 Def
You tell me
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>>24728271
Bro Charizard has 100 "att" points
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>>24728256
Charizard is an overrated piece of shit that too many kiddies overestimate. A pebble can kill it.
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>>24728313
Staggering
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>>24728326
Isn't Charizard like 5 feet? Blue Eyes is as tall as a building and would squash Charizard
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>>24728354
Blue-Eyes is as big as the holographic projector makes it.
Galaxy-Eyes is the real motherfucker.
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>>24728377
How big was the real Blue Eyes that existed in ancient times?
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>tfw I'm still not satisfied with the new blue-eyes support

c'mon konami make more spell and trap cards that are blue-eyes related
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>>24728354
>>24728377
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>>24728377
Mah nigga
>>24728436
It's Power v Potential. Blue Eyes is raw power, but Red Eyes has the potential to become even more powerful.
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The one whose win will lead to more controversy and more clicks for them.
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>>24728486
Blue eyes then.
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>>24728450
blue eyes is as big as the moon
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I love charizard but I don't think she could bet the Blue-Eyes
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>>24728256
I can't decide!
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>>24728377
Clear wing > every other dragon
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>>24728271
Charizard has ~265 Attack, Blue Eyes has 300.

'Zards defense is paper thin though and his Fire type attacks dont cut through Dragon-type monsters for shit
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This legendary dragon is a powerful engine of destruction. Virtually invincible, very few have faced this awesome creature and lived to tell the tale.
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>>24728529
Anon we are a Christian Imageboard!
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>>24728529
Is it bad that I want one of those?
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>>24728546
and nobody knows that it is the soul of a girl who died protecting the one she loved
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>>24728565
Not at all, it's an extremely powerful card. I have a Ghost Rare one.
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>>24728529
Dinosaurs > All other things
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>>24728565
No, that mat looks cool
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>>24728377
Is this Gurren Lagann?
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>>24728566
So, would she fug him as a Dragon?
Does this explain Kaiba's Dragon fetish?
Porn when?
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>>24728586
Although I do like Dinosaurs. I never liked most of the designs Konami has done with their Dinosaur-type monsters. And I'm not even trying to be a feathers fag
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>>24728586
My fucking nigga
>dinosaurs always neglected because of dragons
>we were thrown a bone with Evols, but Evolzars aren't even Dinosaur monsters
>"Dinorabbit" was a high tier deck but the "Dino" merely refers to Sabersaurus and Kabazuls as XYZ fuel
I'm glad we got Jurracs and Evols, but I hope they'll make another Dinosaur archetype soon.
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>>24728629
Man, I remeber playing Juracks on the ds game, they were super fun.
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>>24728610
>So, would she fug him as a Dragon?
No one knows.
>Does this explain Kaiba's Dragon fetish?
Yes, the mangaka said that his past self loved the girl very much that it manifested itself into his current dragon fetish.
>Porn when?
Search "Kisara" on Pahael.
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>>24728586
>>24728629
Dinosaurs are overrated.
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>>24728663
This
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>>24728618
You could make the argument that the smaller Jurracs have fiery feathers, like a pheonix. Poor things, they will never be good again.

>>24728629
Shame that the coolest Dinosaur deck in years isn't even Dinosaur type. But damn, are these guys fun to use.
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>>24728652
THanks.
Is there porn of her and kaiba but as with her a the Blue Eyes?
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>>24728663
No shit, they're terrible. Rating them highly at all would be a misjudgement.
They're just extremely cool, and that's all they have going for them.
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>>24728698
What are they?
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Love Zard, but Kisara sort of shitstomps him
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Watch YGO episode "Birth of the Blue-Eyes"

Blue-Eyes (the real creature in the lore, not the card) is a god stronger than each of the Egyptian God cards. Charizard is just a slightly super-powered animal.
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>>24728467
>Red Eyes has the potential to become even more powerful
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>>24728988
Aww that's adorable
Poor thing would be dead before it even touched the ground
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>>24728984
Even lorewise, Blue eyes jobs out to Zorc just as bad as everything else.

Thats Zorc though, he shitstomped everything.
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>>24728859
Dinomist, a bunch of Water Machine type Level 4 and 5 Pendulum Dinos. Incredibly fun when they work. Being released outside of Japan in January.
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>>24729375
IIRC Blue-Eyes was the only monster to damage Zorc besides the Egyptian God Trio Fusion.

>>24729180
Red-Eyes has, what again?
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>>24729598
One of the strongest XYZ monsters in the game?
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>>24729697
The fucks an XYZ monster?
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>>24729697
>Xyz monsters
cancer

try getting past my boy here anyway and enjoy getting popped by Blue-Eyes when it comes back the following turn
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>>24729742
Have you even played the game in the last two years?
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>>24729752

I haven't played competitively since around the time when Pendulums came out. Got too stale. The new Blue-Eyes/Red-Eyes shit is getting me really hard though.
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>>24729768
Dude, I've been getting a huge fucking nostalgia boner from yugioh ever since they started making cards from the anime along with new support relating to the OG monster cards. I mean MOTHER FREAKING EXODIA THE SUMMONED ONE IT'S ABOUT DAMNED TIME
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>>24729783
Too bad hardly any of it has worked; the BLS support was a joke and I don't think anybody remembered Buster Blader anyway.
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>>24729734
Fusion with faggier gimmick.
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>>24729783
>nostalgia boner
Nah, I've always liked Blue-Eyes even before the anime. One of my sister's gay friends gave me a backpack full of YGO cards. My first rare was Fiend Megacyber. Thought that fucker was so cool so I went to the store and got SDK. Obviously my dick hit my chin when I saw Blue-Eyes.

>tfw game-legal God Cards are worthless feces
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>>24729794
What about those new winged dragon of Ra cards?
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>>24729792
Fusion and XYZ couldn't be more different.
Not needing a card or effect to trigger the summon, a limited number of times their effects can be activated, the fact they don't have levels, the fact their materials go to the Graveyard no matter what; it's probably the most technical summon.
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>>24729799
Obelisk is like ALRIGHT. He has the effect "This card cannot be Targeted by card effects" which is pretty decent. But Ra and Slifer don't have that effect so they can get popped by just about anything in one second.

Plus their effects just aren't good. If, let's say, they had better effects more akin to what they were in the anime, then had their limit brought down to only one per deck instead of being able to have fucking 3 of each, then that would be pretty sick.
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>it's a /vp/ YGO thread
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>tfw all those archetypes and such used to be priced way too damn high for you to ever own physical cards again

Noticed lately if it's not from the most recent couple of sets the price on even some high rarity cards plummets compared to before. Also rather giddy some old 5Ds archetypes I can make for less than $40.
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>>24729807
Uh no, Ra has a bunch of new support that makes it much easier to summon. Sphere and Pheonix mode and whatnot. You should probably look at them.
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>>24729807
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Anyone remember this season? Well they're all fucking real cards now. Except for that giant snake thing.
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>>24729824
My favorite season tbqh.

>>24729817
That thing still sucks.
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>>24729824
That particular image is the UDE days version only some judges had at an event. The real Seal card you can get is a little different.

But I've been enjoying their recent trend of bringing out new support for old stuff and bringing some anime/manga cards to reality.
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>>24729824
That's not what it does.

>>24729825
Yeah, because it was the only bearable arc of DM, because people at least knew what the rules of the game were at that point.
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>>24729815
I hope these new Blue-Eyes cards don't go for too much. If they're like, $10 that will be ok. But if they're like $30 each I'm fucked.
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>>24729830
>it was the only bearable arc
spotted the shitter, the entire series is great, the worst probably being the Millennium World and that was still pretty cool, Kaiba in the past was fucking GOAT, even the Digital World S3 arc was good
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>>24729836
Fascinating opinions, but DM is without par the most lacking Yugioh series.
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>>24729840
Quality of the Duels/ how the Duels might resemble IRL Duels, then yeah. Story/character-wise? You're fucking nuts.
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>>24729847
From a technical standpoint DM is only hindered by its age, but even then its characters and story developments cannot hope to compare to Arc V.
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>>24729854
IMDb puts them as
>DM: 6.6
>GX: 6.5
>5ds: 6.7
>Zexal: 5.4
>Arc V: 8.2
Hot damn.
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>>24729854
To be fair, I've only watched GX and 5Ds. I mean, I liked both, but they could not hold a candle to the MCs of original YGO. Kaiba/Pharaoh and hell even Joey are some of my favorite characters of all time.

But the characters from the other two series are somewhat likable, I like Yusei (hated all his friends though, so fucking awful) and I liked Jaden and Chazz, but they're all more or less stock character archtypes, not a lot to them.

In the Digital World saga in original YGO, learning about the Kaiba brother's back story was fucking unreal, not to mention Kaiba's rematch with Gozaburo.

Zexal looked like cancerous ass. Skipped that shit. That being said Galaxy-Eyes is my next favorite monster after Blue-Eyes.

Arc-V looks better than Zexal, or at least the characters look a little more conservative and less retarded.
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>>24729875
Zexal was mostly retarded. I tend to blame that on Yuma, the protag, since most of the side characters were more interesting. Though the duels were interesting come the second arc with the Barian world and such.

Arc V so far has been pretty great in terms of characters, but man have there been a lot of flashback episodes.
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>>24729874
>IMDb

>>24729854
Forgot to mention the animation. In the later series the animation is generally much better. That's partially why I think the Millennium World saga in original YGO is the worst; those monster battles were so fucking clunky and underwhelming.
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>>24729881
The Barians very nearly redeemed Zexal, if at least its second half.

The characters are extremely well written in Arc V, to the point where there are almost no 'bad' ones.
The amount of filler in Arc V is purely because it's competing with the upcoming movie for budget.
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My dick.
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>>24728377
>Galaxy-Eyes
A shit.
We all know the best dragon archetype is Red-Eyes.
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>>24729954
Welcome to two hours ago
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>>24728586
>mfw summoning Meteor, floating Gallum, and then activating Evo Pill to get out this fat fuck
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>>24728629
>what are Dinomists
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>>24729375
Exodia failed to one shot Zorc, I think Blue-Eyes deserves a pass
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>>24729965
I wonder what would happen if Castel;) could fight Zorc
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>>24729807
>But Ra and Slifer don't have that effect so they can get popped by just about anything in one second.
>not running Mound of the Bound Creator and Terraforming
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>>24729961
>Machine type
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>>24729977
>Having your cake and eating it too
I'd rather have Infinity everwhere than Evolzars everywhere.
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>>24729825
>4000/4000
>Unnaffected by other cards
I guess its only down side it is summoning condition
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>>24728512
>Charizard
>she

Kill yourself.
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What does /vp/ think of this archetype?
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>>24729988
Yes, Anon, she.
You see, Charizard can be female.
Mine is.
Nice dual dubs thought
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>>24729997
>no original Trap Hole

Ouch.
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>>24730018
Lolis only, Anon
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>>24730018
>only works on normal/flip summons
>doesn't even work on Falco
It's pretty shit now, the best one up there is held by best girl.
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>>24730025
It's always about lolis.

Damn you all for converting me.
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>Red Eyes, Dark Magician, Blue Eyes, Jinzo, Buster Blader, Black Luster Soldier, Kuribo, Gaia the Fierce Knight, Exodia all got legacy support
Who should be next? "Elf" Support for Celtic Guardian/Elf Swordsman, Beaver Warrior support? An entire army of Giant Soldier of Stone/Metal/Diamonds/Lasers/whatever they wanna make them out of?
The nostaliga bait decks are big money. Have you even seen how much not even top tier decks like Red Eyes and Toons take to build?
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>>24730041
Give my nigga Tri-Horned Dragon some love.
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>gay marriage and marijuana are now both legal
>Sonic, Pacman, Megaman, Ryu and Cloud are now all legendary gaming icon guests in Super Smash Bros

>still no Fusion of Blue-Eyes and Red-Eyes
>not even either with Dark Magician
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>>24730055
You can't fuse Yin and Yang dumbass.
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>>24730013
Charizard is ma.le only.
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>>24730082
>Reshiram and Zekrom were originally one
>no evidence for either monster representing either one
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>>24730082
>>24730097
Also, Yugioh itself proves you wrong with literally every Chaos monster ever made.
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Worship the meta
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So have any of you gotten the Yugis Legendary Decks gift box?

Holy shit Komani A+. Now we need a Kaiba box, it should look like his briefcase and include 3 ultra rare BEWD in the classic print.
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>>24730134
Meta
>>24730140
Nostalgic trash

Know the difference, it could save your life.
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>>24728256
Considering Blue-Eyes White Dragon is canonically dead with the advent of White Spirit Dragon, I'd say Charizard has a pretty good shot.
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>>24728326
Charizard is pretty overrated but it does it's job. Although it would be no match for Blue Eyes.
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>tfw Charizard is a manlet
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>>24730656
5'7 is the average
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>>24730093
Why would a guy wear a dress?
Most Zards are male that much is true
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>>24730707
How tall is Nidoking?
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>>24728467
>Red Eyes has the potential to become even more powerful.
Mah nigga.
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>>24731377
1.4 m
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Horobi no Baasuto Sutoriimu!!!!!
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>>24729875
Sounds like you're watching the dub, pleb.
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Blue Eyes White Dragon's signature attack is White Lightning. Pretty sure it 1HKO's Charizard.
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>>24730140
Yeah I did. My nephew wanted one and I couldn't resist picking one up for myself.
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>>24729840
>but DM is without par the most lacking Yugioh series

>gx didn't exist
>zexal didn't exist
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>>24729997
>loli waifu bait

It's shiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>24728271
I think it'd be more reasonable to compare a pokemon's actual stats at 100 to a Yugimon's stats divided by 10, because the scale is set differently for sure.

Charizard would still be worse off but whatever
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>>24728256
Charizard because it can cause Blue-Eyes a Burn
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>>24728988

I miss cyber stein megamorph twin swords
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>>24729794
At least Obelisk saw play in March 2013 because you could do whatever the fuck you wanted and have it work back then.
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Is there a legitimately good loli deck?
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>>24733449
HAT was good for a while.
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>>24729881
>>24729894
>Zexal
The Number cards were a really interesting idea, it's a shame the rest of Zexal was executed so poorly.

I haven't given Arc-V a try but I've heard a lot of good things about it.
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>>24733449
I like a thing called Curran Burn, sometimes called Loli Burn. Traptrix are also a thing.
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>>24732704
Faggot detected.
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card game monsters ? here we go
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>>24737128
Emrakul NO! bad eldrazi, BAD, go back to >>>/vintage/
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The ability held item thread just gave me a hilarious idea.

Mega Fug equipped with Contrary held item + Draco Meteor, V-Create and Earthquake VS Shooting Quasar Dragon equipped with Metalmorph after Berserker Soul has been activated.

What happens?
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>>24738059
Fug at most has slightly over 1/8th of Quasar's attack and defense. Berserker Soul doesn't work on Quasar though, you retard.
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>>24737979
>Posting an even more cancerous card
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>>24739810
A card manifested for real always just works. Bakura summoned Man Eater Bug and there was no delay for it coming out and Widespread Ruin was used as a nonsituational trap in Arc-V. By that logic Berserker Soul made real should simply work for any monster. If necessary, lower Quasar's attack until it applies. Metalmorph would realistically serve to just continue boosting attack power once a battle initiated since it hasn't ended unlike simply running over an opponent's monster.

Also, Fug has been shown capable of wrecking a meteor much bigger than it with one strike and according to science, he's can even fuck up the literal god of Pokemon. He should at least be able to put up a fight.
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synchro > normal summon > special > fusion >>>> xyz/pendulm/ritual
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>>24730739
I have no idea but keep posting maid charizard
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>>24730043
My current deck. Saw a lot of play.

Unfortunately when the new Blue-Eyes shit comes out, Tri-Horn is gonzo.
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>>24741846
Aren't "Blue-Eyes Alternative Rock Lifestyle Dragon" and "White Spirit Dragon (TL Note: Blue-Eyes)" already on Dueling Network?
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>>24741854
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>>24741854
It's not on DN yet, you dumb asshole.
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>>24740095
>according to science, he's can even fuck up the literal god of Pokemon
Source for that? Because Arceus can create creator gods.
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BEWD was originally the upper bound on how powerful a monster could be, pretty much. I didn't know anyone with Black Luster Soldier or anything else as powerful or more for a long time. In contrast, Charizard NEVER occupied that role. If you want to make some equivalence, Mewtwo is probably the closer one.
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>>24740208
Ritual>everything, you dirty proddy dog.
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>>24741935
Pokemon's own system, base stat total.

Mega Rayquaza is in the 700s like Arceus and Mega Mewtwo Y. If these numbers in universe are meant to be a mathematical measurement for power, which they almost certainly are considering the distribution of all kinds of items that regulate them by an exact amount, anything close to 700 is approaching literal god tier. In this scenario he also has the perfect moveset to realistically be unbeatable by anything in Pokemon. With a held item that basically gives Contrary as a second ability and his moveset only powering him up each time he uses one, eventually Rayquaza would hilariously be capable of fucking up entire planets with Draco Meteor and an attack literally named Earthquake (a god level being only increasing in power is doing this).
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>>24742950
It still is. It's to this day tied at 1st for the highest attack power for a Monster that can be Normal Summoned, besides Super Conductor Tyranno with 3300.
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>>24740208
Nice Synchro you have there ;)
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>>24743015
>what is Obelisk the Tormentor
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>tfw when can't find old Blue-Eyes deck
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>>24742987
>If these numbers in universe are meant to be a mathematical measurement for power, which they almost certainly are
Nope. They're a game mechanic. Goomy is according to Pokedex the single weakest Dragon, but the stats don't reflect that, do they?
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GOAT threads like this is why we need /mon/
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>>24743313
Eh, it's probably for the best that we don't turn into /mon/. YGO threads on /vp/ are great because we're not constantly talking about it 24/7. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.
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>>24743216
>lowest attack stat of all dragons
It's not much of a stretch
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>>24743039
A monster with specific conditions to be normal summoned. Without said text, it would only need 2 sacrifices.
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>>24742950
>Charizard NEVER occupied that role.

>I didn't know anyone with Black Luster Soldier or anything else as powerful or more for a long time.
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>>24743371
>muh TCG

Guess what, faggot? The games came first.
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>>24743379
>muh goalposts
Charizard was 200 fucking dollars because of that exact definition.
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>>24743363
Still a normal summon you idiot.
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>>24743385
Still just a fucking trading card based off the actual games where everyone began to love him, dumbass.
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>>24743411
That doesn't mean there suddenly wasn't a time that Charizard was "the upper bound on how powerful a monster could be".

The card game existed, hell the fucking OP's art is using Charizard's card art in a battle against Blue-Eyes instead of the game art.
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>>24740546
Since you asked
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>>24743415
And the TCG is still 100% irrelevant to the actual games. Charizard was far from the strongest in the games and still is. Charizard having such a powerful card that long ago was because it was fucking Charizard and was decided would sell the best. Charizard is just an iconic classic ultimate form of a starter Pokemon whereas Blue-Eyes was once hyped as the ultimate legendary beast both in the game and the show back when nothing could match him.

By the way, Blue-Eyes having its image backwards is irritating as fuck and Charizard's original Sugimori artwork would have done just fine.
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