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Discuss anything mystery dungeon with us, rescue requests, questions, etc. If you're on the fence whether or not to get the game, just get the damn game it's 100x better than GTI.
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For anyone who's not playing SMD for whatever reason, here's some resources:
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Sky guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
>>24708701
First for Nuzleaf is the killer
>>24708710
Nuzleaf is the main villain and you have to kill him or nuke serene village.
>>24708701
>mission where the enemy is double speed
>runs for stairs in the same room
>can't even petrify it because a stupid fucking wynaut walked in and used safeguard
The fuck was i expected to do
Nuzleaf kills Dumbledore
>>24708713
Goomy is the mastermind.
Second for a page were to get PMD 4 Portraits
Nuzleaf is your father.
>middle evolutions of starters
>give them portraits you'll never see much of
>eating animations during dinner at the guild too
>no sleeping animations
Why?
>>24708721
That's Axew.
So guys, do you evolve your starters, or no?
Personally I never do it
Nuzleaf and Carracosta killed your mom in a green Sabre and work for the Ballas
>You will never be able to send your bros from the Mystery Dungeon games to the mainline games
This is true pain
>>24708730
Never.
So I haven't played Gates.
I also haven't played Sky, but played Time.
Should I get them?
As someone who really loved Sky, but was sorely disappointed by the last title, I'm a little afraid to spend money on a game I won't want to play after a couple hours. Can't really afford that right now. Is SMD worth buying? I've seen really mixed reviews so I'd like /vp/'s input before I make my decision.
>>24708730
Do stats even change that much?
I like Chespin to much to evolve it.
>>24708730
I evolved into Grovyle.
>>24708738
Its like sky reborn. you will not be disapointed.
>>24708738
Yes this game is fucking great. Haven't been this immersed in a video game in years.
>>24708738
It's better than sky.
Nuzleaf is grovyle
Caracosta is dusknoir
Your partner is their baby
>>24708743
+5 to stats in Sky at least.
>>24708730
Did in RT. Did in Time/Dark but immediately regretted it with the only one portrait while the prior had more and the walking in place all night long. Didn't in Sky. Did in Gates but immediately regretted it for same reasons as Time/Dark except with standing in place instead of walking. Just did in Super and I'm glad there's portraits this time, but still standing in pace, so I'm unsure whether to reload to my save from before evolving or not.
>>24708743
Only gameplay difference will be your moveset.
>>24708744
Hows his walk cycle? I saw Delphox's and immediately nope'd.
Got any pics of what grovyle looks like in game as well?
>>24708753
This
This lack of IQ grinding stinks
Gummy hunting was my favorite past time, and it was even more fun in sky with spindas cafe.
>>24708745
>>24708747
>>24708746
>>24708753
Thanks guys. From the summary at least it seems like it'll fuel my love for strategy a little more than it will for story, but if it's already this popular I'll give it a shot.
>>24708763
>tfw no swalot to buy 800 grab bags from
>tfw no nature gifter
>>24708764
>Anonymous 11/24/15(Tue)19:47:49 No.247
ohohoho no.
You'll love the story still.
its even darker then PMD2
>at theSand Dunes
>fightan Pupitar's while wearing a Deflect Looplet
>a Pupitar manages to kill another Pupitar with Rock Slide
>that Pupitar evolves into Tyranitar
>>24708738
What >>24708747 says about the gameplay is right, the mix feels more MD, less Pokemon. Which while I still enjoy, it bothers me some.
Though I think Super has the weakest story elements of all four games.
>tfw got anally fucked inFire Island Volcano
Requestan help. Hopefully the pic isn't that shit.
>>24708764
Leave the threads right now if you're gonna buy it
>>24708736
Yes
>>24708764
You'll like the story too, just avoid these threads until you're done
>>24708763
Gummies were nice in Rescue Team, but it became way more of a grind in Explorers. Sky made it a bit better, but not much.
>That entire last segment
>Nuzleaf as fucking Zororark
>Yvetal being the mastermind
>The Beeheyem were actually the good guys and Deoxys wants to protect you
>That entire segment with Giratina
>Fucking primal arceus
God damn this was a good game.
>>24708778
Can't scan it, take a better pic without glare or use miiverse
>>24708778
>>24708797
I got the scan, I'm working on it.
>>24708793
Nice fucking spoilers lad.
>>24708736
I think Gates is worth it for the story at least, Paradise development is a little neat too. Definitely Sky is worth it.
>>24708764
It'll fuel your love for strategy a lot more than the story, since Super's story kinda sucks. There are some good points in there, but on the whole it's arguably the worst story in the franchise. Rescue Team's story might have been really plain and mundane, but at least it wasn't badly plain and mundane, it was still good. Super's story is bad.
>>24708793
S P O I L E R S
WHATS WITH YOU FAGS.
>>24708793
I couldn't believe Deerling was Diancie the whole time
>>24708797
Had a feeling. Lemme try again.
>>24708793
>Spoiling the ending
Wow. thanks a lot asshole.
Watchdog kills Dumbledore
>>24708805
Er, not franchise, subseries. Like, it's not the worst story in Pokemon, but it's definitely the worst story in PMD.
>>24708801
Or that. Thanks bruh.
>>24708806
None of that is real
>apathy orb
>using it changes the floor status to apathetic
what
>>24708793
>People actually believe this
Loving every laugh.
>>24708793
I can't ever forgive Ampharos for helping Giratina.
>yo go prepare for the last mission
>shop has like 7 apples and one big apple
>zero fucking revival items
Fuck you too game.
>the giratina fakeout was to fool you into thinking that there was never actually going to be a giratina
I love this game
>>24708828
Gold bars.
God's gift to the world.
>>24708828
GOLD BARS
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>>24708827
Why do you think there was a NO KIDS rule anon? IT all makes sense
HOLY FUCK
I cant believe Watchdog was behind the Beeheyem attack
>>24708805
Rescue Team, when it had story, did it well. It just wasn't very heavy.
Only thing Super really does well is pure spectacle. The actual story is not good.
>>24708828
>not just buying a pack of five from Cofagrigus
>>24708840
I feel so stupid right now afterwards.
>>24708843
>>24708838
>>24708837
I'm not parting with my jew gold
>>24708842
>they entire school leadership was plotting against you
>when Ampharos turns you to stone
>when Yveltal was the real expedition leader
>>24708778
>>24708810
Finished. Good luck man.
>>24708848
Enjoy dying for your beliefs
>>24708848
>going full Cofagrigus
we tried to help you anon, we tried
>>24708843
Yeah, that's kind of how I was feeling about it to.
Like, when I was reflecting on it, I sort of wanted to call it an "action movie plot"? But that doesn't feel very fair, since while I don't watch a lot of action movies, I'd like to be optimistic and say that they probably do things better than Super does. But you're right, it does spectacle right and the actual plotting and story are just bad.
How does the starter ranking get affected by the wonder mail codes?
>>24708793
>final battle
>all is lost because your attacks and items do fucking nothing
>cue heavy metal as Pancham suddenly appears in the final battle
>"Only I can defeat the darkness."
>sacrifices himself to make Arceus vulnerable to your attacks
>doesn't come back afterwards
>everyone forgets him except the partner
>a different Pancham replaces him on the orb in postgame
I cry every time
>>24708860
Found a revival orb walking around town. I think I can make it.
>>24708855
Thanks so much, dude. I'll get some Thank You Mail for you.....
Assuming can improve my camera skills.
>>24708867
Why is it /vp/ can make this game even better then it was?
>>24708867
I know right, what a ending, I mean turns out that Salamence only lost to you since he ate too many perfect apples and became pic related.
>>24708879
that sounds like utter shit
>>24708862
I wish the game went full ham instead of trying to be sad at the endI mean the game has you CLIMBING A TREE IN OUTER SPACE TO STOP THE PLANET FROM FALLING INTO THE SUN, at that rate they should've just enhanced the action factor to get the most out of it
>>24708887
The ending was fucking awesome imho senpai
>>24708873
My pleasure.I had a lot of fucking trouble with that dungeon the first time around too. I empathized greatly and just had to rescue you.
>mfw everyone who was stone(d) turned gold
>>24708914
Yeah, I loved it, it's just the emotional part of the ending didn't work out well.When your partner cries about not being able to stand seeing Carracosta being turned to stone got me, though.
>mfwyou and your partner leave Serene Village>your school friends are their to encourage you and see you off>all the letters from the adults
Help, I got fucked right at the stairs on the final floor.
Sand Dunes of Spirits b10
>>24708936
>got fucked right at the stairs
>>24708935
I actually teared up a lil at that
>>24708941
I keep seeing this fucking same pic, quit posting it.
>>24708759
i don't think you do the wake up animation anymore by the time MC/partner can evolve
>>24708715
warp em away
Does anyone have footage or pictures of Grovyle or Warrortle in game?
>>24708964
Yeah you do. I'm at that point
>Heart Lake
Well fuck my ass, this is the first time I actually got a TPK. Anyone have any tips?
>>24708964
>>24708980
I wanna evolve and just tell myself "oh they're just already awake that's all" or something to get myself by it. But then I instantly miss the animation. It's too fucking cute to lose.
>>24708981
it's nearly impossible
>>24708990
I tried to handwave it in Gates that because they were "older" they just got up a bit earlier, but the unvaried portraits killed it for me. So since at least you have portraits in Super with the partner being all smiley when you talk to them, I'm thinking of saving and sticking with middle evos because Dewott and Braixen are perfect together.
It still bugs me though.
>>24708931
Not him butI found the parts leading up to the ending sadder than the ending itself. It was the cheesiest part of the whole damn story but I was crying during the whole don't give up! section.
I sort of wish they just used all caps for the negativity ball instead of mixed lettering, it sort of ruined the atmosphere for me.
Finally got the game after my friend got it as a gift.
Loving the fact that once you get the connection orb, you're free to do whatever in terms of teams, but I have a few questions. (I just got on the chapter with the ghost at the school)
>How do you rename Pokemon?
>Where do you get the things that allow you to change Abilites?
>My Azumarill has this big yellow circle by it's name, what's that about?
>Said Azumarill was also unavailable for a day, is that gonna happen often or is it dependent on level? I know the Salamence has a 4 day cooldown.
>>24709026The jumbled caps lock is to signify the many voices fighting each other.
>>24708713
I Keked way to hard at this
>>24709026i thought the mixed lettering was great. Depicted insecurity and fear.
>>24708981
Do missions regularly until you have a massive stockpile of Stayaway, Warp, Slumber, Confuse wands, like 100+ of each, throw them all in your bag plus a few Reviver seeds for security, then cheese it.
>>24709026
>all caps
>not all lowercase
>>24709028
1. you can't except for MC and partner
2. either get it via rewards from upping your rank or exchange gold bars for Lucha Tokens at Cofagrigus
3. i don't think i've seen this? got screenshots or something?
4. it happens sometimes randomly. it seems that higher level mons goes unavailable somewhat often, probably to prevent you from using them to carry you through dungeons too much.
ayyyyyy
So, which continent is which? Grass Continent is the region from Explorers, right? And Sand only reminds me of the Rescue Team's just because of the Xatu. But then we still have Air and Mist.
>>24709033
Probably a good idea to get a stack of guiding wands as well.
>>24709048air is rescue team, mist is GTIno idea about sand. it might be the wiiware game's continent? anyone know what that looks like?
>>24709048
Wind is Rescue Team
Grass is Explorers
Mist is Gates
Sand is just an extra continent
>>24709029Yeah, I know. It just reminded me of those 2006 scene kids who tried too hard to be random and quirky.
>>24709037
That would have been better too.
>>24709048
You can tell from the visuals of each continent. Mist is Gates.
>"That's odd. The line just went dead. Do you think something happened to them?"
>Flicker, flicker!
>"Huh? Oh, it's just the guardians of the ruins."
Out of everything in the big twist cutscene, this was what got me the most.
>>24709064
It's unfortunate how memes ruin things that would otherwise be fantastic.
>>24709046
Looks perfect on citra
>>24709078
How fast does it run?
>>24708730
never, never going to either. I get attached.
>>24709082
About 55 mph.
>>24709011
>>24709033
fug
i just want my future trio, game, why do you make me suffer
>>24709060
>>24709056
>>24709067
Ohh, alrighty. Thanks guys.
I should really replay Gates at some point. Can't really remember much from it now.
>>24709077
If you insert "memes" into something that changes the size of text you have your own problems to deal with.
>>24709028
>>24709045
Yellow circle by the pokemon's name means you marked it as a favorite.
>>24709090
Memes refer to anything widespread, don't you know?
>>24709082
I'll show you a webm, although I had to use my save file from my 3ds to get it working
>>24709090It's just TypINg liKe THiS gives off an "xD SPoOoRKz!!!!" sort of feel, you know? But I guess there are only so many things they can do with text. Trying to represent many different voices talking at once through text sounds pretty tough.
>>24709113it would've been better if IT alternated EVERY other WORD, maybe.
>>24708747
>referring to Emeras making the game Isaac-like
Nah, if you wanted to make it even more like Isaac:
>play until you reach Hawlucha
>delete every single one of your moves except for one that's the same type you are
>do the same for your partner
>sell every single item except for one looplet (which is for you)
>bring a TM/orb/seed of your choice as a "spacebar item"
>can only use what you find in a dungeon while you're in the dungeon; you have to sell everything you found as soon as you exit
>if you learn a new move you either have to replace the old one or never delete the old one (so it gets stronger the more you use it)
>delete any new moves when you leave a dungeon and relearn the first move so every new dungeon is like a new Isaac run
also treat your partner/recruits like familiars: consider changing the move they have to a stronger version as getting BFF
>>24709113They could've done some sort of visual effect with faint "echoing" text popping up around the actual lines
>>24708936
Anyone?
>>24709132
Sure, I'll fuck you at the stairs.
>>24709113
spiritomb talked the exact same way in PMD2. this isnt new dude.
did anyone notice something weird the eevee recruitment line? it goes something like this
sylveon->vaporeon->
autorecruit jolteon/eevee/whimsicott
and then whimsicott links into flareon and espeon/umbreonwhere is that goddamn comic where flareon gets its fluff from whimsicott
>>24709120what if the words were something else when they initially appeared and then appeared to change in a glitchy spaztic way
>>24709132
I'd help but I'm not there yet. I'm currently grinding before tackling Epilogue stuff
>>24709132
Yeah, I'll have a go at it. I'll be there shortly.
Someone please save me! I left that bastard Beheeyem to die, and not two floors later, I met the same fate. Please, the world depends on you becuase it depends on me!
>>24709148
alright, thanks.
>>24709149
I'm on it
>>24709082
sorry for the quality, I kinda rushed it using a old build offfmpeg
>>24709126
That sounds amazing,
>>24709171
>That speed and quality
>get invited to have tea with Houndoom
>think that sounds fun and cutethat fucker dropped me in a room with mons that knew agility and helping hand
I TRUSTED YOU HOUNDOOM YOU FUCK
I hate that I knew about Rotom but didn't know these missions could be Monster House surprises too.
>>24709171
HOLY SHIT
>>24709171
>>24709179
It might actually be full speed in a year, holy shit
0-4 Squirtle
5-9 Totodile
>>24709171
>That speed
My god, you're killing it
>>24709181
I feel you anon. I've been putting all these ones off because of Rotom, what a fucker. I've heard they're not all like that though.
>>24709193
You are making a mistake anon.
>>24709179
>>24709190
>>24709194
I got a better webm coming up, just you guys wait
>Take Skitty to find her item
>"My precious! You've found it! It's not like I need it for a skit or anything!"
Clever
>>24709195
Not all of them end in Monster Houses
It's just a matter of knowing which ones
Use your judgement
>>24709199
Yeah im gonna go with totodile anyways. Hes one of my absolute favorite pokemon and ive already made my save with him.
>>24709202
>"But wait! There's more!"
>>24709195
please do Ninetales' mission, it's pleasant with references thrown in too.
>been doing these missions and all of them except Rotom's have been non-Monster House Secret Bases
>tfw realizing the ones left behind gotta be Monster Houses
save me from this hell
>>24709195
I did the Smeargle one and was surprised that it was an actual good time. Met one of my favorite Pokemon there and connected with them too (pic related).Apparently it's random if he'll jump you or not, I read that some anons here were duped.
>>24709155
Unfortunately I didn't have any reviver seeds left to attach. Good luck anyway, you're close to the end!
>>24709202
>There's more
Please
Just put it out of its misery
>>24709217
>he doesn't realize how amazing it is that it can run at all
>Nidoran Female has a request
>"I want you to meet my family, come see me!"
O-okay
>>24709225it's a monster house
>>24709225
>Mfw that request
I think this relationship is moving a bit too fast
>>24709225
>>24709227it wasn't for me. Nidoqueen said "You thought it was going to be a monster house, didn't you?" yes, you sly fucker
>>24709216
Gracias senor.
>>24709149
Hang in there senpai. Just two floors to go
>>24709234
>"You thought it was going to be a monster house, didn't you?"
>it actually is and they were triple rusing me
>>24709227
>Go to Nidoran F's request
>It's aMonster House
>Mfw Nidoran planned an entire gangbang
>>24709204I like to imagine that that Skitty was my partner from Sky.
Spoiler Question. Do not read if you have not gone to the volcano.Can you learn TMs while temporarily evolved in the entei fight?
If I'm bulbasaur and evolve to venusaur can I learn EQ while evolved here?
>>24709238
>Accidentally forgot to bring items for a sekret Club meeting
>Shit, it's going to be a Monster House
>It isn't
>Oh thank god
>Continue with the dungeon for some loot and some EXP
>Next floor
>Go into a big room
>It's a Monster House
You got me game. You got me
>>24709246I have no idea but I do know stat boosting items do not stick.
Does Treeko's dumb walk cycle look any better once you evolve it to a Grovyle???
>>24708701
I'm only just starting ch.15, but how many people also hate their fucking partner? A-hole keeps forcing you into story missions when I would rather grind and do more quests.
>>24709258
Fuck you, the partner was great.You'll miss him when he's goneReal spoiler.
>>24709258
Anon, you've reached the point wheretthere is no more grindingIt's all story from here to the end.
>>24709258
I don't hate my partner I hate the game for this bullshit.
I mean hell, ALRIGHT, I'll do the main story shit but can I PLEASE pick up my rewards from Kangaskhan in the Cafe before that? No? Well fine, fuck you too game.
>>24709258
>Mfw I actually grew to like my partner overtime
I fucking clicked No, Game. I didn't want thatstage of depression your partner gets during the beginning
Is the verdict on the partner's gender decided? I named my partner a girl assuming the cool/cute thing altered the gender (I chose cute). Or at least it's left ambigious?
>>24709263
>reward gets stuck in cafe before I have a chance to get it
>for the next~10chapters in a row partner is all "noooooo we have to advance the plot" every time I try to claim it
>>24709278
If you pick Cute i'm pretty sure a partner pikachu ends up with the heart tail.
>>24709258
They're okay. I don't like them as much as the Explorers or Gates partners because they're kind of an annoying headstrong little fuck, but at least they have more defining traits and backstory than the Rescue Team one.
I got multi hit around a corner :( can anyone help me?
Revelation Mountain F12
>>24709282Yeah that's one thing i wasn't too fond of in this game. The fucking gauntlet starts and never lets up.
ughhhh I need to find a better way of making webms
>>24709287
I'll try to help you out.
>>24709283
It does.
>>24709289
>>24709282
I think you can go do all that stuff through Pelipper Island. Like Companion Mode in Gates.
That's just what I read, though.
>>24709278
see here
>>24707214
Which continent has the best town?
>>24709283
>>24709303
Sweet. That means my pairing still holds.
I'm kind playing the game as if me and my partner were reincarnations of my Explorers of Time team. Piplup as me and Torchic as partner.
>>24709265
Holy shit they really won't let you go the fucking cafe, what bullshit. And the partner is the emissary of the BS so I hate them. Just did both the Kirlia and nidoran missions in the Abundant Plain place and I can't even get my reward after.
>>24709274
I said yes, called it annoying because it is.
Real question as it's been a while since my last PMD game(last one was the one with Dusknoir and Grovyle right after it came out), but is this a first or has the game always forced into story missions with no other options? I feel like they didn't, but don't remember.
>>24709139
>>24709120
I think those would have worked well. They already had that echo effect going whenYveltaltalked so I'm sure they could have made some cool effect like that for that.
>>24709287
>>24709296
Won't let me go, guess you're on the second visit.
Someone else will have to help.
>Get 5 quests on Sunny Spot Hill to plow through
>Bring T-Tar and Keldeo for cheese and EXP
>There's a Wandering Pokemon on Floor 2
>Finish everything else
>"There may still be something ahead"
Fuck yeah
>>24709314>reincarnation
ohohohohoho
>>24709329
>"There may still be something ahead"
No line fills me with such joy
Well there are a couple parts in Sky where after a few daysyou're quite literally dragged into things no questions asked
I see what's going on here
>>24709320
Not in this way, no. There were times where it forced you into story missions, but those were few, far-between, and you always had ample leadup.
For example, the Expedition in Explorers. You got told about the Expedition in that game a while before it actually happens, and a different story-related mission occurs before it. You can't put the Expedition off once its time finally comes, but you can spend as much time as you like doing random missions and things while putting the other story mission off.
Anyone else hate traveling pokemon missions? They never hang around one room and you could waste a ton of hunger searching, especially in a harder dungeon.
>>24709343
meant for >>24709320
>>24709350
Dude, traveling pokemon are literally scripted to find you. If you go the the stares and hold down a+b, they'll find you eventually.
>>24709287
>>24709323
imma try it then
>>24709346
>That mission where you deliver a letter for him
>He apparently knows a shit ton of Ghost Pokemon
Fuck yeah. Time to spook the 'mons
Are there any major regional differences between the Japanese version and the U.S. version?
>>24709253
Oh shit quest or random? I've just entered postgame andhaven't gone into a non-quest monster house yet.
>>24709360
US version is harder.
>>24709356
You for real?
>>24709360
I think dungeons have more kinds of pokemon in the US version
>>24709362
Either it must be super rare or I'm just unlucky, but it was completely unscripted
>>24709364
Yes, if you just wait by the stares the traveling Pokemon will come to you.
>>24709360
US version has stale memes
>>24709360
No, the RNG impact of the games lead to confirmation bias though.
>That reveal when Jirachi was the one using his powers to turn people to stone
>That twist with Ampharos being the true final boss and the whole "IT WAS ME BARRY" MOMENT.
>That mega amph animation and focus on his hair
>That music
Was Mega Ampharos the most stylish boss to ever appear in an MD game or what?
>That entire plot dump at the bottom of the ocean>That entire evil scheme
My brain is fried. I have to take a breakWHY IS THIS SO GOOD?
>>24709237
Thank you so much! Onword to victory!
Say, how do I send rewards?
>talk to blaziken and recruit it
>suddenly half the town wants to be recruited
o-okay
>>24709398
Blaziken's cool. Everybody loves Blaziken
does the recharging shit ever end
i'm very far into the postgame. I'm assuming no
>That fight at the top of the Expedition Society
How come that gets a cool boss theme but everyone else gets the same tune?
>>24709237
Nevermind, Peliper just told me.
Have a wonderful night!
>>24709403that's for sure
>>24709415
they're all different, or slight variations.the one that plays when you fight jirachi is my favorite too though.
I see no difference between 3d on and 3d off.
>>24709415so like every time a new day starts does some poor fucker have to go through a fight with them or something?
>>24709428
Depth
>>24709428
Do you have 1 eye? Are you turning the slider all the way up? Are you using a REAL 3DS? Is your 3DS broken?
So does red mean that's the strongest the move is going to get?
Was this on console or emulator, cant really tell
>>24709432Considering how there seems to be a shifts type thing, probablyAnd considering how much HE FUCKING HURTS, it's a really painful endeavour
>>24709439You know its true.
What the fuck does the Excavation Looplet do? Did that piece of shit Cofagrigus just scam me out of 10 gold bars?
>>24709437
Gold means that if Hoopa's Hyperspace Hole is any sign.
>>24709438
The black "crappy emulation" effect around the word bubble? Like that on hardware too.
>>24709450
it's pretty hit.
>>24709450
gonna take a guess nad say it makes sparklye spots show up more
>>24709447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGaneyDfyls
This is also true.
>>24709453
Emulators have trouble with transparency
>>24709447I haven't played Okami, but I have played Tatsunoko VS Capcom, so when I saw Dark Matter transform like that I was all like "oh shit we Yami now".
The dialogue with the partner and shit though was totally P4 though. Only instead of getting a Persona they fucking died.
>>24709450
You can find gold spots with them that give you stat boosting items or gold bars. But they're rare.
Looplet has like, 1 or 2 spaces from max though, so it's not too bad.
Why doesn't this game ever address Torchic's cloaca? In fact, why is the entire pokemon franchise silent on the existence of Torchic's cloaca? This is getting a little outrageous I think.
>>24709483
The shitposting begins.
>>24709398
in fact, every single pokemon in serene village wants to be, too.
as well as half of every other town
So in regards to the Pokemon that are listed on Serebii as "after epilogue", does that mean anytime during the Epilogue? Or will I have to do the postgame story dungeons first?Call me a gigantic tool, but I want my second-stage starters now without evolving them
>>24709486
>not 1 billion lions
step it up
>>24709346
>Dusknoir and grovyle arent connected
Ha. the little things
>>24709256
This
???
>>24709287
gotcha
>>24709507
probably they will be when the player gets connected with Dusknoir/Grovyle
>finally get throughtwo solo mandated dungeons
>scared at what might come next
Oh God, someone tell me I don't have to do another. Please, that was so fucking scary.
Definitely like the partner in this one the best out of all the other games.
>>24709519
>not preferring going it solo in this game
>>24709388
Spoiler your shit.
>>24709521
yeah smd>rescue>gates>explorers
>>24709527
>the narrator was the villain all along
>the narrator was actually bidoof from EoS
>he wished for world domination all those years ago
>>24709519
the one that comes after that isn't solo mandated IIRC. that was a big relief desu
>>24709510
thank you !
>>24709425
>>24709415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOqlOslYlfc
>>24709532
Nigga I ain't reading that
>tfw you realize that the connection orb and "CONNECTED" are literally social links and a rank up of social links.The Pokemon are the Personas.
>>24709537
LOL
>>24709523
Not when everyone does 50+ damage to me and makes me burn through my Reviver Seeds like candy to a fat kid.
>>24709533
Oh thank fuck.
>>24709516
Actually, it connects when you recruit sableye.
>>24709541
In case you couldn't tell by now, this game is Persona with Pokemon
>>24709532
>>24709532
Oh really? I heard my son was the villain and I had to either kill him or nuke the Pokemon world.
>>24709548your son is Bidoof
>>24709521
They'd be better iftheir backstory wasn't a complete mess. The whole Mew business is way too confusing and it isn't explained well at all, and even after having people try to explain it it's all really stupid.
Their personality is pretty nice, but I liked them better back when they were a mischievous troublemaker at the start. They kind of went from "mischievous, headstrong and troublemaking but goodhearted" to "boring generic headstrong hero with no sign of his mischief or troublemaking from earlier". It's character development, but it lacks a lot of nuance like that.
>totodile has best starting moveset
>model looks like shit
>>24709521
Gates > Explorers > Super > Rescue Team
I really liked that the Gates partner seemed to genuinely care about the player the most of the partners, and they generally seemed to have their shit together most of the time. Made me like the Snivy line a lot more. Rescue Team partner has like no character, so they go last. Explorers and Super are both about equally good, but I liked the Explorers one more by the end, mostly because of Super's plot kinda going to shit by the end to me.
So what did you guys get as a starter through the personality quiz at the beginning?
I gotPikachubut went withCyndaquilinstead.
>>24709567
chikorita
what the fuck man
>>24709567
Pikachu for me, Fennekin for the partner. I wanted Fennekin anyways, but I made myself Oshawott instead of Pikachu.
>>24709567
Turtwig, but I chose Pikachu instead.
>>24709567
charmander and riolu partner
went with cyndaquil and chespin
>>24709567
Turtwig and Squirtle
I got Turtwig in Sky too so I just rolled with it.
>>24709567
Piplup and Torchic
Took Chespin and Cyndaquil
>>24709567
Forgot to mention, my assigned partner was Riolu and I just went with it.
>>24709567
Turtwig, which I kept because he's one of my favorite starters.
>dusknoir has a secret base
Will it be a monster house?
>>24709567
Turtwig, which I was okay with. It's my favorite of the 4th Gen starters
>>24709633
No.:^)
>>24709639
>>24709595
>>24709586
>>24709580
>tfw we all picked the depressed options on the personality quiz to get Turtwig.
>>24709567
Tepig the first time
Riolu the second time
Ended up going Snivy since I never go GrassMistakes were made
>>24709646
>depressed
More like shy/reserved. I'm not outgoing.
RANK UPEXCEEZ CHANGE
>>24709657
Yea guess that's a better term for it.
In case anyone was wondering I think it's safe to assume that every TM has a rainbow variant.
Picked up a rainbow Facade TM earlier and see a standard Facade available for purchase in Kecleons shop in the city.
And if it's anything like Gates, you can only find 1 of each rainbow TM (assuming you don't sell it or throw it away for whatever reason).
So the more of them you acquire the smaller the loot pool will become.
>>24708701
Holy crap multi hitting moves in this game are so broken from enemies.
>Heracross on Showdown Mountain
>Arm Thrust, all 4 hit for 13-15 damage each
>die
>revive
>Try bite but misses
>Heracross does same shit
>die again, revive
>bite misses the fuck again
>partner finally takes care of the ass
>>24709562
I think Totodile just looks like shit.
>>24709567
I can't remember the Pokemon I got but my partner was Froakie. I think I got Bulbasaur but I can't remember now. Fuck my awful memory.
>>24709683
The
The game came out on Friday
I have terrible memory but not that bad
So is there a romance thing between you and your partner or nah?
>>24709688
No
Completely platonic
>>24709667
Isn't it awful? And the fucked up accuracy doesn't help either. I'm glad Barrage exists at least, and it's great on a Pokemon with multi-hit moves.
>>24709692
'Zerker Barrage is fucking broken on multi hits
End up pulling 16 hit combos in a single move
>>24709633
It is.he doesn't even try to trick you to come in for tea. rude.
>>24709688
Only if you headcanon, though honestly they feel even more like just friends than the past ones.
>>24709692
I wonder what would happen if you just chugged a ton of Carbos and maxed out your speed stat. Would you just become untouchable with it high enough?
>>24709686
It's the worst shit man, I can remember certain things perfectly but everything else goes in and goes straight back out without leaving any sorta reminder.
Anyone know where I recruit Elgyem?
I need help on Revelation Mountain, Game Overed for the first time on 13F.
Also, holy shit Drifblim's Minimize bullshit is insufferable, and Noctowl's Sky Attack is absolutely OP in hallways. Especially since my team is Bulbasaur and Riolu.
>Finally get Nidoqueen
>accuses me of not trusting her
rude.
>sparkling floor
>it was a Pokemon Ambush!
holy shit this is a thing?
>>24709567
Got Totodile went with Totodile. Was going to choose him even if I didn't get him.
>>24709708
God that sounds terrible. I have a fade-in fade-out memory where if nothing eventful happens in a day I'll completely forget it but remember it if it's brought up
>>24709717
Shit haven't game overed yet and fixing to head there. Guess I'll be careful,
>>24709708
You sound a lot like me.
>>24709720
>naming your pokemon after yourself
I seriously hope you fags don't do this
>>24709724
Sky Attack seems like it can hit from across the room, and goes through any number of targets in a line.
That means that when it crit and super effective killed most of my team in a hallway, it killed Riolu andArchen and Nuzleafin one shot. I somehow survived with 3 HP, and then Totter Orb'd to make my getaway.
Also the floor had hail on it for whatever fucking reason.
>that expression
>>24709732
>game says YOU're going into the pokemon world
>not naming it after yourself
I bet you don't name your trainer after yourself in the main games either,do you.
>>24709737
show previous connection please. I need to know how to get them.
>>24709717
I'm on it
>>24709743
>He names his character after himself
Finally time for some payback.
>>24709732
>not naming the MC after yourself when it's supposed to be YOU
The only other acceptable name is the species name to dodge any awkwardness of being the only Pokemon with an actual name.
Now, what's really lame is naming your partner after that kid you had a crush on in Elementary.
>>24709743
Gotta clear Heart Lake, I think.
>>24709743
You either recruit mesprit or go ledyba > mime jr. sudowoodo > aipom >drifloon >sableye >dusknoir > grovyle
I did the later because fuck heart lake.I'm pretty sure you can also recruit dialga but I have no idea how to do that
>>24709736
Might want to try using helping hand with Sylveon to bullshit your way through the tougher parts. It's bullshit but I like doing it.
>>24709752
>evolving anyone but you and your partner
Enjoy never getting a Helioptile again and having two Heliolisk.
>>24709757
I'm fairly sure you battle him. There's a remix ofDialga's Fight to the Finishin the soundtrack.
>>24709752
>not wanting a living dex
>>24709758
It's during the story mission, I can't bring anyone else in.
>>24709759
>>24709763
I care more about the bonus EXP at the moment.
>>24709753
Oh thanks. Guess I'll never get Celebi then.
>naming your partner after that kid you had a crush on
y-yeah so lame.
so what's a good name for a Meganium. Just curious
>>24709567
oshawott twice in a row
went with bulbasaur
fuck oshawott tbeh
be wary, Hydro Pump pierces multiple targets as well so it is absolutely horrifying in hallways
>>24709764
Oh. I'm fucked then.
>>24709771
Another thing; don't wake up Pyroar onFire Island.
That fucker will use every opportunity to use Hyper Beam on you, and that not only hits at range, but it also essentially explodes for massive damage around you and destroys walls.
>>24709284
I actually think Gates had the best partner overall... I didn't really care too much about the partner in Super sothe end didn't really affect me that much.
I'm wondering if I think this way because you essentially play alongside the main character of the story rather than being it. (Which was kind of a nice change of pace actually.)
>>24709290
Maybe Byzanz? VLC can record your desktop to webms too if you don't feel like getting something else.
Also that framerate is giving me flashbacks of less privileged times when I played Explorers of Time on a buggy emulator on an ancient computer.
>>24709394
Also, dat music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBJCAbnNI0Q
>>24709567
I did it multiple times because I've always been either Pikachu or Charmander in the previous games depending onmy gender.
After 5 times of alternating between Charmander and Pikachu I gave up, went with Charmander, and chose Pikachu as my partner because I didn't want to choose between them.I regret it, Pikachu's surprisingly awful at covering me.
>>24709781
So your telling me.... Hyper beam is actually good?
10/10 Pokemon game respects lore.
>>24709788
Hyper Beam is scary. Sure there's a one-turn cooldown, but that's nothing compared to the damage a STAB Hyper Beam does to you and your team. Good luck getting close while they throw that shit at you from across the way.
>>24709781
>Get a mission to fight Pyroar
>Three stars (I think)
>Decide to do it
>Never encountered Hyper Beam before
>Mfw Hyper Beam right off the bat
>>24709781
>tiptoeing around a sleeping pyroar
>charmander flame bursts a pokemon standing right next to it
i want to fuck mawile
>>24709737that was cute but holy shit celebi is a dick
i want mawile to fuck me
i fuck want mawile to
why do all my attacks miss
>>24709797
>Tyranitar triggers Sandstorm
>Didn't know there was a Pyroar in the room
>Wait, did that say Pyroar woke u-
>>24709822
>>24709797
Note to self, run/use fuckoff wands when Pyroar is in room.
>>24709818
the speed stat affects accuracy, so either improve your speed with vitamins or use a move that buffs speed
>>24709828
Pyroar's horrifying man. Heliolisk is fucking nothing. Heliolisk is the type of the ice berg
I PREFER A HELIOLISK TO A PYROAR
>>24709717
Alright, this should get you through
>>24709843
Thank you! Here's something for your help.
>>24709793
surround and pounce wands are a dime a dozen this should never be a problem
also using them during the dungeon you explore with the entire expedition society is really fucking kek
>>24709757
thanks for the tip bro, that helps since you're right, fuck heart lake
I'm really considering restarting, even though I'm at the part whereEntei gets turned to stone.
Current team is Pikachu/Chespin. Kinda want to go through with Pikachu/Fennekin instead... would that be wise?
>>24709902
>Running Pikachu
>Ditching Chespin for Fennekin
Nigga.
Spoiler:What the flying fuck, Revelation Mountain?! I suppose it really lives up to it's name with a fucking cutscene like that.
I'm now more determined than ever to kick someone's ass after that betrayal.
>>24709913
Sorry. Pikachu has always been my main ever since Red/Blue came out, so I've kinda just stuck with it. Didn't help that the quiz this time gave it to me as well.
As for why I want Fennekin...I got spoiled about the partner's big reveal at the end, and kinda thought it fit Fennekin more than it did Chespin.
>>24709902
I did the game with Pikachu/Fennekin. I'd say it was an average team--not too good, not too bad. Fennekin can really support you from behind with Ember/Pysbeam. Magnitude is the only real problem.
The Flash Fire+Overheat trick/bug doesn't work anymore, in case anyone was aiming for it.
Just tried and Overheat works normally.
Is there a canon team for Super? Like Piplup/Pikachu for Time/Darkness or Oshawott/Pikachu for Gates?
>>24709915
Also, the answer to this question is spoilers as well, but I don't care, I need to know:Please tell me I get to fight Nuzleaf. I need retribution.
>sawk used rock smash
why though?
>>24709953
theyre digging through the walls
prepare your asshole
>>24709951
yes
>>24709951
yes.
I want to protect Partner's smile!
I figured out how to cheese mewtwo.bring a spiritomb and sableye. he can't attack either.also bring a ban seed to stop him from using recover
For those of you who beat the story, is it possible to change your overworld mon, or are you stuck with what you chose to be, even after beating the game?
>>24709972
Or you could just use a Shedinja, which is immune to all of its attacks...
cheesing is for faggots who want to ruin all the fun for themselves
>>24709977
You can choose to play as the mon you picked for your partner insteadas long as you're cool with never reuniting him with his one true friend
>>24709960
Perfect.
>>24709980
how the fuck do you even beat mewtwo without cheesing?
>>24709977
Stuck with starter and partner.
>>24709981That's Gates.
>>24709985
>>24709981
lame. Thanks!
>>24708701
Holy shit fuck Revelation Mountain. Only to fucking floor 7 and have died twice already because of all the fucking flying types(Chespin). Stupid Archeops just OHKO'd me with a Acrobatics and I swear there is more Pokemon here too.
>>24709795
It's four.
Is there a grind strat somewhere for levels and permabuff items?
I'm getting tired of being 1-2 shot in every dungeon.
>>24709951Yes, you technically fight Nuzleaf, but at the same time, are you really fighting Nuzleaf?
>Croconaw
>conaw
>gnaw
fuck shit
>>24710006
It's even more straightforward than that
Croco
"naw"
>Cyndaquil NPC's line is "Let's go! (I'm a bit scared...)"
>Cyndaquil's nature in Rescue Team on the quiz was Timid
DEEPEST LORE
>Still no Meowth
I really miss payday and STAB fury swipes
Easily the GOAT mc
Damn, Lileep popped up on the Motivated mons list and Brine is fucking awesome. How easy is it to find a Brine TM? I gotta see if my Oshapartner can learn it.
>>24710042
I've never seen the TM, but Brine and Fury Attack are the reasons why Piplup is top tier in late game
What level do I have to be in order to tackle the postgametreasure hunt and legendaries?
>>24710045
I just checked Oshawott's bulbapedia page and it can only learn Brine by breeding, apparently. I hope to Arceus that the partner can learn it through TM anyway...
I just realized the Kalos starters only learn their signature moves in their final evolutions, and that really bugs me because I want to keep my partner a Braixen. And me as Dewott having my signature move and her not feels really wrong.
I actually feel like I'm starting to like the game a lot better now that I'm out of the constant linear story missions and into the postgame where I can just fuck around, but honestly I think getting through the story itself has just exhausted me. I really want to put this game down and go play something else, even another PMD that isn't so tiring, and I'm not sure I really want to come back to Super at all.
Part of me also wants to restart it and try a different team instead. Maybe Fennekin/Chespin this time, instead of Riolu/Oshawott.
>>24710078
>Riolu and Oshawott
talk about team boring
How the FUCK am I supposed to beat the last boss
This shit is impossible and i hate going througj that longa ss cut scene and pre fight everytime
>remind myself of the whole credits sequence
ow, my heart
>>24710089
It's not hard at all, jesus. It fucking shows you where to stand to dodge attacks. Use your Pounce Wands.
>>24710086
What can I say? I like the duo. Riolu's who I ended up as in Sky and I get him every time I do any of the quizzes now, even fanmade quizzes of all things (which in all honesty is really fucking weird). Oshawott is who I picked at the start of BW1, so I like him a lot too.
Still, Fennekin/Chespin are who I also used in X, and it sounds like they're much less of a pain to use by comparison thanks to movesets and whatnot, so maybe I'd have more fun with the game with them?
>>24710100
Give it a shot. Chespin is really fun.
>>24710089
Bruh the last boss is cake.
>mewtwo is level 70 when recruited
>recruiting him unlocks the deoxys dungeon
>deoxys is only level 43
huh?
>>24710106
also the looplet he gives is shit
>PP saver as a looplet
if it had more slots maybe.
>>24709995
You aren't one hitting everything thanks to emeras?
>>24710110
Finally made it(after 2 failed rescue attempts of myself), but that was part of the problem, no good items on the ground. Only emeras they were giving me were things like the no-paralysis or confusion or no traps, see enemies, etc. No offensive ones. Also like no Oran berries or tiny reviver seeds. You might think I'm joking or over exaggerating, but I'm not.
Attract say it can be used in towns and villages. Anyone know how exactly?
this emera man
also Outrage + Barrage + Confusion Guard is bomb
>>24710094
The fucking credits in this game were too much for me, man.
>>24710089
>>24710095
I only have 1 reviver seed left, and every move one-shots me. The spikes don't give me trouble, it's everything else. I'll give pounce wands a try, but that sweep move is too much
>>24710145
Remember that if you give up he doesn't heal.
Guys how do I fucking stop feeling like trash?
I just want the Beeheeman to show up already so I can kick there asses, shit.
>>24709567
Got cyndaquil, I was fine with it.
>>24710151
Wait what
How are people taking screenshots of their qr codes?
>>24710182
Capture cards, Miiverse
>>24710182
and Homebrew. i think the latest one allows screenshot capturing.
>>24710184
That worked. Didn't wanna have to dig out a camera just to post the QR code.
If anyone isn't busy, I need a rescue, please. I'm onRevelation MountainF9.
Anybody know what the game said about their starter pokemon? Mine was cyndaquil and it said something about how I know my place, and that people tend to respect me.
>>24710196
It called me popular when I got Pikachu.
>>24710194
sure, I can do it. hang on
>>24710200
Thank you so much.
>>24710229
oh fuck i forgot to rotate this, this should be right.
Game starts picking up after you get to lively city right? Not that its bad, it's just the plot is moving a bit slow.
>>24710234
>>24710229
I was wondering why it wasn't working, hah.
Here's your thank you mail. Thanks a ton for the rescue.
>>24710240
The plot starts to ramp up then, yes.
new thread when
>>24710135
whoa, never found this one.
>>24710132
it means the tm can be used there
Fuck this ending. I didn't ask for these feels
You can't just let the credits crawl over this
>>24709565
Gates definitely has the best partner while Rescue Team has the worst.
If anything, Gates and Super taught me that sometimes it's better to have a likeable character than an interesting one. All the development in the world didn't stop me from wanting to punch my SPMD partner in the face for the entire first third of the game.
>Uropoor
>See Gates for a cheap price
>Decide to suck it up and give it a play while I wait for Super.
>Get to Mount Kilionea.
>Fucking Munna
>Get separated from the partner while running away from some kind of cult
>That intense music as you're running for your life in the first time in the series where you're forced to be on your own https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwvIBmWld30
I'm actually kind of liking Gates so far.
>52 gold bars
>bought shitloads of Calcium and Carbos
>me and my partner are killing machines now
Doing like 100 damage a hit now
>>24710328
i seriously hope you used the water bracelet to throw them through your main two
>>24710329
.....
The what.
>>24710336
If you recruit cobalion, he gives you a looplet that allows you to throw items through your team.
So you can use the vitamins on two pokemon at once.
>>24710336
It gives throwing items piercing status
You can throw them through your team for twice the effect
>>24710339
>>24710340
>was saving cobalion for when I was all buffed up
>I fucked up this hard
>>24710345
cobalion is fucking easy.
>>24710345
>not bringing Ampharos
>>24709521
It's a strange one for me - he's probably the most interesting, yet the least likeable.
>>24710302
I made the mistake of relistening to the music from the pre-credits scene right before bed yesterday
That didn't end too well
new thread???
>>24710431
Yeah a new thread at 7:00 AM when nobody is sleeping. :^)
This thread will stay alive until later when the americlaps wake up. /vp/ is fairly slow and the remaining neet Americans and the britbongs and europoors who imported can still chat and post images
now I'm okay with having retarded "out-of-depth-ish" mons that are abornally strong and wreck your shit
I just wish the game warned you about them. Like you could tap look around and it'd tell you, "That pokemon looks extremely dangerous."
>>24710602
>sleeping
fuck that I have a sleep guard it's 8:13am why am I awake
>>24710621
You mean like the sleeping mons that fuck you up? otherwise I have no idea what you're trying to say, hit L before entering a dungeon and it tells you it's difficulty.
So now you can only throw vitamins at two of your teammates?
>>24710643
Yeah, since they dont let you have 4 mons for some dumb reason. At least it's still possible i guess
So, can you choose gender and your partner's gender in this game or not?
>>24710673
Partner yes, yours no.
>>24710658
Oh well, at least it's much easier to get them this time round too
>>24710643
>>24710658
You could always bring hoopa along.
>>24710135
Damn, this would make Cinccino Murder absolutely everything with its four multi-hit moves.