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Try to use spoiler tags, please.

Discuss anything mystery dungeon with us, rescue requests, questions, etc. If you're on the fence whether or not to get the game, just get the damn game it's 100x better than GTI.

Last thread: >>24705708

For anyone who's not playing SMD for whatever reason, here's some resources:
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Sky guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
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Espurr is a precious thing
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Asking again, where's a good spot to level up post-credits, before epilogue?
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Any tips for the Prehistoric Ruins?
Beeheeyem is beyond worthless and everything essentially one or two shots me without even trying.
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>>24707395
Actual spoilers:

Remind GameFreak never to never pull that triple agent shit again because I was ready to rip her a new hole at the bottom of that cave.
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>>24707401
I just did harder missions on the sand continent. There's really no good answer to your question because the story kind of progresses on its own whether you're ready or not.
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>>24707404
Do what I did, 20 Reviver seeds from Pelipper Island and run like a mother fucker.

>>24707412
>PSMD
>Game Freak
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>>24707412
what's wrong
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>>24707412
>gamefreak
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>Rayquaza and Deoxys-Ex Machina out of nowhere
Bruh
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>>24707404
Use your gold bars to buy Reviver Seeds from Cofagrigus, and use wands continuously. Do not, under any circumstance, get into Hydro Pump's range of attack.

>>24707415
>>24707417
>>24707420
Herp derp, got my gaming companies wrong, but point still stands.
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>I wish we could be together forever...
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>>24707417
>>24707412
That put a hole in my heart
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What is the best non-evolved pokemon? and why is it Bergmite
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>>24707423
That scene was fucking cool

Say what you want about gen 6, but there's some dope cutscenes between that and delta episode in ORAS
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>Bulbasaur faints from Pancham and Shelmet's spoopy school ghost story
>Froakie hops up to make sure she's okay
>Froakie's entire head glitches through Bulbasaur's bulb
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>>24707450
Really makes me think GF and Pokemon Co are trying really hard to break the mold and make it more visually impressive.

I like it.
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>>24707417
I havent seen the usual art influx for PSMD like there would be for most other pokemon games. What's up with that?
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>>24707461
Yeah these 3d graphics can be really beautiful sometimes. I'm looking forward to the future of gen 6 and even gen 7 however that'll go.
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>>24707382
>That blatant shot for shot Symphonia rip off ending


The Great tree takes off into the sky
Everyone works to keep it from leaving
Gets the tree to germinate and expels the dark matter
Tree comes back to life
Xerneas appears
"I am the tree of life" "I am life itself"
Promise to protect the tree for future generations


Even so, I'm pleasantly surprised by the story. I didnt expect this to even come close to rivaling PMD2.

Glad we didnt get another Gates.
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So did you guys go with whatever the personality test has chosen for you?

I got Riolu on my first try. The small, tiny /vp/ contrarian in me said "no", but it felt wrong to ignore tradition, and Riolu is actually pretty challenging by itself. Chose my partner, as per Blue/Sky tradition.
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>>24707477
S P O I L E R S
YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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Anyone find joltik and or galvantula yet?

I'm in post game trying to make my favorite team, and I just need galvantula.
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>>24707477
is this a new meme?
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>>24707477
>reposting my spoilered version from the last thread unspoiled

You ass.
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>>24707468
The game's fairly new in the west, and it's almost thanksgiving, so give the tumblr art landwhales a little more time to get inspired and filled.

I just can't find the time myself, but I want to make some quality art so bad
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>>24707485
Im at 300 pokemon collected and still havent seen him, he must be one of the very last ones to collect
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>>24707480
If you have Riolu as MC, I would almost suggest Fennekin as your partner, but Chespin is currently the undisputed champ along with Totodile for shenanagins.
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Okay but can someone photoshop this face in a rotom?

Because that mission was some Undertale bullshit.
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>>24707480
I ended up getting Pikachu on my first try. Decided to retake the test out of curiosity, only to get the same questions. Picked Fennekin because I thought it'd be a pretty cute partner.

Recently got past the credits, and I can't wait until I hopefully learn Discharge. Other than being a room nuke, it'll be nice to have an electric move that isn't Electro Ball.
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>>24707485
I found Galvantula last night, lemme see if i can pull it up.
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>>24707506
Please. I want to main my spider bro
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Does anyone wanna help me choose my starter/partner?

I'm pretty set on pairing Totodile with Fennekin, I just dont know which one I want as a partner.

While I really want to control Fennekin myself, I realize that she's much more effective as a sniper and the totodile would be better for attacking up close.

But man I want to be a fucking wizard so bad.
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>>24707501
Chespin works great as the partner, personality-wise and is also a great choice for MC. It's awesome.
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>>24707524
>She

I have a fennekin player with a riolu partner. Fennekin is much better as a main.
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>>24707480
got cyndaquil, but wanted a cute ADD fennekin, so I had to drop him.
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>>24707524
Choose Fenny as main MC, since teammates AI is generally retarded in regards to saving PP on sniping attacks.

Plus, Totodile fits the teammate's troublemaker personality more.
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>>24707509
Found it. Mysterious Plains. Found mine at floor 6, and there's also the Lawnmower Rotom, which I found at floor 4.

It's a good idea to post when/where you find roaming pokemon so others can try to find it through the archives just like this.
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>Sawk used Rock Smash
>Sawk used Rock Smash
>Sawk used Rock Smash
>Sawk used Rock Smash
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>>24707537
thanks, will do.

Suprisingly, I have mow rotom, but not galv.
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Hey so I've got this lil Axew dude on my team now, will he just stay with me or is he gonna leave eventually? I really want that third party member
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>>24707502
I lucked out on that one and had an easy layout

plus Rotom is ballin'
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>>24707533
I think Fenny and Totodile fit the personality equally. I'm just worried about having Totodile behind me the entire time since most of its attacks are close range.
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>>24707544
I was thinking that there's only a chance it'll show up, or it's a random floor, so you wouldn't get something if you didn't get far enough. Good luck, Anon. I was hype as fuck when I found my Spinarak bro too.
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>>24707382
If anyone wanted a 1080p version of that wallpaper, here.

I made these and I can provide versions without the logo if you want.
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>Enter dungeon
>Take 2 steps
>Vulpix picked up the Barrage
m u r d e r
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>>24707546
Once you unlock him you can use him for non-story missions
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>>24707541
Shit, that was like a horror movie. Being in literal Pokemon hell didn't help matters much

>>24707546
Connected Pokemon never ever leave your team unless it's for vacation.

>>24707549
Oh yeah, that's a good point, huh. Using either have their pros and cons, but since the game hands out Elixers like halloween candy, you COULD go with Todo.
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What does it mean when you attack an enemy and the Connection orb reacts?
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>>24707565
Actually I can just go with Fenny and switch to todo when I need to rip things apart up close.

As long as the game continues to let me switch through my party.
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>>24707574
They get added as a circle in your connection orb. It doesn't connect with them, just adds their slot in.
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>>24707565
>>24707561
Since he's around my level is he every going to "go on vacation"?
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>>24707590
I don't understand how that shit works. My MC is level 32, and I've been using team ACTs charizard for about 10 missions in a row and its level 41. Meanwhile I've got Pokemon in the mid 30's that are going on vacation. Why isn't Charizard taking a break?
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Is there any reason at all to evolve anyone?
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>>24707590
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Way less often than higher-levelled Pokemon. I rely on a Cincinno and Machoke for same-level powerhousing, and sometimes, but rarely, they will be unavailable.
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>>24707606
Nah
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>>24707606
>not wanting a 3 wobbuffet team
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Just met Ampharos and got to Poliwrath River. Does the game open up at all soon? I miss having my own house and being able to freely visit dungeons

Other than that, having a good time
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>>24707606
Expanded movepool and whether or not your want same Pokemon, but different strategies. I immediately evolved MC Riolu because I really coudn't take his limited movepool anymore. Worm Pokemon also don't develop anymore and should evolve immediately.

Lucario is now owning shit with Dark Pulse, Close Combat, and Aura Sphere.
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>>24707616
Just keep going man you haven't seen shit yet. You should also avoid these threads because shitheads occasionally post spoilers w/o tags.
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>>24707401
Probably triangle cave is always good.
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>>24707624
Thanks. Just figured I'd check since I'm past two bosses now

Don't worry, haven't read shit in the threads. First time on /vp/ since the game came out
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So, let me get this straight really quick.

>it's name is Dark Matter
>It has the power to control or influence others to do its bidding
>It's essentially the ultimate evil

Pokemon shares a universe with Kirby. Confirmed.
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>>24707636
Good luck dude, all I can say is be very prepared for the coming fights. Stock up on orbs, LOTS of reviver seeds, orans, apples, wands, etc. use the shit out of emeras.

The game will pick up a lot soon for you. Have fun bro
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>>24707645
Its also Yami from Okami.
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>>24707645
It's also the berserk, rejected dark self of Mew
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>>24707645
>Kirby found the Triforce in Kirby Super Star
>Pokemon, LoZ, and Kirby all share a universe
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>>24707667
Okay whoa, I didn't get that far, fella.
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>>24707667
I aM a ShAdOw

tHe TrUe SeLf
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>mfw Xatu and co. show up in the finale
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I'm a little disappointed that turning on the 3D effect kills the resolution of some textures.
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>>24707705
it does?
I've had it turned on except for the occasional laggy scene like the mega tyranitar battle.
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>>24707705
>>24707708
I haven't noticed the resolution of textures being turned down.
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So for all the other games, I'd explore all/most of each floor before moving on, but that's getting me killed now. If I just beeline straight to the stairs, will I be underleveled?
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Hey guys, does anyone have any tips for the fight with Yveltal and co. at the top of the tree? I can knock out Nuzleaf and be Beeheyem fine, but the damage from Oblivion Wing in the beginning hurts.
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>>24707708
>>24707708
It really shows in dungeons, especially ones with grass or cracked ground. Only a few places in the overworld get lowered textures.
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Do we ever not have this retarded "Taking a break" mechanic with pokemon?

I really want a coherent team, but they always go on break when I need them to stay.

Its fucking annoying.
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>Get to Dark Matter
>When he starts screaming "OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH" (not going to take the time typing retardedly) all I could hear was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FPHqPix208
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>>24707717
Slumber orbs like always
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>>24707717
use a pounce wand an focus on taking out yveltal first
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>>24707717
Hope you picked up a Ban seed?
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>>24707717
Ban Seed
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>>24707724
>not using the same Sylveon in your team since the very start
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>>24707724
it's based on the difference in levels, so you can't just use Salamence every time
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>>24707737
Sylveon goes on break all the time.
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>>24707726
>>24707729
>>24707734
>>24707735
Slumber Orbs and a few seeds it is. Thanks guys.
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>>24707734
>ban seed
oh
ooooohhhh
so that's how you're supposed to get past mewtwo's 960hp recover
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>>24707742
I'm in the post game, I have a team of Chandelure, Lilligant and Galvantula, and both Lil and chan keep going on break, they're level 32, and Galv is 28.

are you saying that much of a difference is causing this?
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>do axew quest
>axew quest requires me to kill a salamence
>salamence hits so hard every pokemon in my team get one shot
>in the end luck out
>both axew and salamance join
>salamance is level 50 and has twice the stat and firepower than any other pokemon it joined my team so far

the fuck? was that supposed to happen?
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>>24707667
>That fucking "I accept you" line
OH MY GOD
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>>24707742
Are there joy seeds? Thats fucking retarded I need my pokemon up 10 levels just to keep my team steady.
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>>24707743
My Sylveon literally went on break once. At the beginning of the game. She hasn't gone on break since.
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>>24707754
yeah, the connection orb missions link you to powerful stuff. this won't be your first, anon.
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Does the A button attack still always do 5 of damage?
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>>24707759
Just don't use Salamence.
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>>24707443
>not wooper

Motherfucker even gets Earth Power this time around
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>>24707759
Haven't seen any and I beat the game, so if there are, they're rare as fuck.
Not even Cofag sells them.
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>>24707768
I'm not using salamence -_- I'm post game and trying to get a team together thats not including my starter since my retarded partner left when they became mew.
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>>24707778
>not using spoilers
>>24707767
yes
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>>24707762
same.

>>24707743
Is Sylveon a huge level gap ahead of you? More than five levels? That might be it.
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>>24707480
Nah. The game offered Piplup/Torchic, which while not totally bad, my autism prevents me from taking water.
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>>24707783
Meh. Thanks
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>>24707708
My god the frames dropped hard during that battle
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>hear all this shit about poliwrath river and the heliolisk
>heliolisk annoying but can easily bet them the most annoying thing in the whole dungeon is lotad
>get to poliwrath it was really easy
>mfw I bet it with my riolu and snivy shit team
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>the events leading up to Purifying Cave

Shit man, what a rollercoaster, even if it wasn't for too long.
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>>24707778
OH GODDAMMIT
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I understand the reason for Swirlix's character, but holy shit what a fucking retard.
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Just connected with Mankey after the hardest battle I've done yet. Got KO'd so many times I ran out of Tiny Reviver Seeds and lost Froakie. Almost lost Vulpix too, which now that I think about it, I don't even know why I had Vulpix on the team instead of Fennekin. I wondered why Psybeam was gone...
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>>24707798
The entire game is just a mega rollercoaster
The beginning is all build up to the peak, and then once you leave the Village it gets WIIIIIIIILD
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Seriously? These client Pokemon have no fucking HP. He only took like 30 damage.
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Where do I get arceus?
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>>24707804
>Tfw you've had Vulpix on your team since getting her
The Type Triforce man. She never goes on break either, she's always revving
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>>24707809
Get all other 719 pokemon.
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>>24707807
At least they're actually competent, not level 5, and can actually be revived.
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>The absolute fucking faggots the dog trio are
God.
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>>24707812
there is a bit more to it
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>>24707820
Just wait.
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>>24707820
It's all a ruse
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Is it normal to not get motivated pokes everyday? Its been two ingame days and i have not gotten more
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>>24707815
Yeah, thank god. Sawsbuck was pretty helpful throughout that whole dungeon but geez he just has no health.
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What's wrong with snivy? I haven't had any problems yet, am I naive?
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>>24707805
Yeah pretty much
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okay, does training motivated pokes with non motivated ones get me anything for the non motivated ones?
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>>24707836
he's a boy
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>>24707382

What are the best tactics?
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>>24707836
I have snivy now and I have to say moveset isn't great
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>>24707840
no.
you have to bring all 3 motivated ones.
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I tried out the Blue Mystery Dungeon or whatever it was called and I don't like it that much, it seems overly simple in like...every way, especially dungeon design.

Does it get better? Will I like this new one more?
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>>24707830
Yes
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>>24707847
Well that sucks. I dont want to sue any of these assholes.
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Money making tip that people probably already know: Sell your apples that have the gold sparkle. They sell for 100 each and if you store them they turn into regular apples that sell for only 20 each. I just noticed this.
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fighting The Final Boss with only 1 Tiny Revive Seed and a shitton of wands.

How fucked is my Empoleon/Sceptile team?
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Where do I input the code for the theme anywat? Eshop says it doesn't work
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>>24707859
>tfw can't do this anymore


>>24707866
Should give you directions, but
>theme shop>enter code should work
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>>24707864
Yvaltal or Dark Matter? If it's Dark Matter you're not fucked at all. Yvaltal, well, good fucking luck.
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>>24707867
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>>24707866
where do I get my code at?
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>>24707866
The back of the cover where the code is tells you how to do it.
>Tap home menu
>Tap on 'Change theme'
>Tap on 'Theme shop'
>Tap the button in the top right corner
>Put in the code
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>>24707527
My favorite thing about PSMD is getting to see what it would be like if Chesnaught was OP
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>Mew reveals himself
>Leaves
>Camera shows MC crying at the tree
>Credits roll right fucking there

Jesus
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>>24707849
the rescue games were kinda eh, but Explorers was a 10/10 game and I'd recommend you play that one first. SMD is also really good if you just want to talk about it before people here start casually dropping spoilers without boxes.

These games aren't for everyone, though.
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>>24707849
it's really outdated

SMD is way better
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At what chapter can I start evolving?
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is there a way to check an enemy pokemon moveset and ability?
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I don't like the partner, but their theme music is pretty great
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>>24707872
I'm going to miss doing that a bit. I've been having a terrible time making money and everything I get goes to Tiny Reviver Seeds and occasionally Reviver Seeds. At least the normal sized seeds are cheaper than they used to be and we can buy 5 Tiny seeds for 1 gold bar. Saving the money for the passes is going to be hell for me though.
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>>24707892
you can't fully evolve until the postgame.

you can temporarily evolve during some fights, just wait
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Okay, so I'm at the end of story mode or whatever, Dark Matter is here and I keep getting my shit kicked in after the scarves break and I'm forced back to being a shitty starter with no moves. Is there either a way to make this easier or a way to skip the fucking endless dialogue/cutscenes between phases?
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>>24707886
>MC just cries the entire time
They pulled no punches with the feels this time.
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>>24707901
The damage you do saves. Getting knocked out doesn't matter at all. Give up, go back in, Dark Matter will still be hurt.
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>>24707901
>he didn't buy 30 reviver seeds before going there
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>>24707864
You can do it. Don't give up.
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>>24707901
Just mash/hold B to try and skip dialogue.

I'm curious as to why you're having trouble with the final boss, since I thought it was much easier than Yveltal
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>>24707878
If you bought the physical game, look in the case

If you bought digital check you eshop receipt
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>>24707903
>>24707886
I didn't feel that sad. There wasn't enough buildup.
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>>24707836
His moveset is abysmal
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>>24707899
Spoilers, bro.
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>>24707836
As soon as you can, get Energy Ball.
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>>24707836
You're just being Contrary
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>>24707901
determination
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>>24707916
honestly if you don't want to be spoiled stop lurking these threads and finish the fucking game

if you're a yurofriend just don't lurk these threads in general
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>>24707928
I've already beat the game.
Just be considerate.
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>>24707893
Not the moveset, but enemy pokemon abilities are displayed if you're right in front of them and hold L
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US region passwords added to gamefags:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/160809-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/cheats
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>>24707907
Okay, that makes it seem a lot easier suddenly. I'll start doing that; thanks.

>>24707908
Last time I quit I went to Peli Island and did just that because I've been here for two days now and never even bothered to check what that was
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Do you think the MC knew he wouldn't be able to return the second time he became a pokemon? I like to think they did, knowing what was at stake if they didn't return
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>Take a break after the whole Revelation mountain thing
>Come back to playing
>WELCOME TO HELL
THIS GAME
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>>24707933
Welcome to two days ago!
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>>24707942
Well excuse me. I checked earlier today and they weren't up there. Figured I'd let other people know in case they had no clue.
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>>24707933
>http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/160809-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/cheats
I'm curious, does this affect the starter rankings at all now that we can get the tm's by ch2?
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Are there any level-boosting items this time or did they ditch them?
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>>24707952
It wasn't, but it was already being passed around here
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>Tfw missing all this disscussion because I don't have the game yet
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>>24707975
Why the fuck are you in here?
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>>24707931

i know that but it doesn't tell me what the ability does
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>>24707975
>Tfw missing all this discussion because I'm not finished the game yet
So many black lines. My curiosity is grating
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>>24707989
Finish the game
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>>24707994
Considering I only have one boss left (I think), I'm pretty close. I think
I'm almost there. This fucking wildride holy shit
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>"What's with that look?"
>"I promise this isn't a monster house!"
god is dead
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>>24707989
>tfw every plot point was spoiled for you right before they happened
>nobody indicates which spoilers are meme spoilers
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>>24708008
>Tfw you accidentally read a spoiler and immediately into playing that spoiler happened
>But then that turned out to be a ruse
This ride is so wild that they might as well call it Persona: Mystery Dungeon
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>going through jukebox
>track 114
>the scene right before the credits roll
please
no
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>>24708037
Pokémon Super Ruse Cruise ™
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>complaining about spoilers
>in a thread discussing the game
just finish the fucking game holy shit. This is like going to /v/ and complaining about your partner is mew and you have to kill him or nuke Lively Town
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>>24707975
You're in a bad place. You should go. This thread will only make you want the game more and more until you lose your sanity. Do the smart thing.
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So is the last half of the Dark Matter fight literally just UnderTale's pacifist ending?
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>>24708045
Shh
No words
Only tears
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>>24708047
I fucked your mom
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>>24708008
>don't have most of the plot spoiled, just one twist and the ending
>the sun thing also but I totally forgot about that until it was made clear
>find it impossible to take most of the game's plot seriously anyways

I must've become too jaded.
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>>24708050
Just asking because I'm quite literally playing "Save the World" over this fight.
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Well, I just hit the ending and now the credits are happening.

That was really fucking underwhelming. The player getting all sad and "wuh I don't wanna go" felt pretty forced (since quite frankly I'm feeling ready to put this game down and play something else) and the whole bait-and-switch with the partner leaving wasn't all that interesting either. Why exactly did the partner have to leave again? Hadn't he accepted Dark Matter as a part of himself? Sure, some of Dark Matter was from Mew's negativity, but accepting it shouldn't have made him vanish like that. He didn't travel through time, he was reincarnated. If accepting Dark Matter made him disappear despite the fact that he was a completely different Pokemon now, doesn't that mean that everyone should have disappeared because they all accepted it?

The whole story from Dark Matter onwards made no fucking sense.
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>>24708046
>That massive info dump
The fucking elaborate ruse cruise
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>>24708053
The twist where your partner is Mew really ruined the ending for me. Having your partner be the human and you were a Pokemon all along anyway would have fit more. And it needed to be revealed sooner so that there was actual buildup.
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>>24708050
If you mean by in a way that you can't techincally die, yes. You'll still lose all your shit, though.
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Jellicent is so good in this game, holy shit

>Cursed body ability, which causes moves that hit him to be sealed about half the time
>learns Ominous Wind, an amazing room clearer
>also learns Water Spout, which oneshots anything if you have full HP
>also can heal himself
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>>24708007
Smeargle? After that little asshole Rotom, I went in expecting a monster house and was pleasantly surprised.

>>24708047
Not everyone has the game yet, or plays through it as fast as everyone else. God fucking damnit. I should have seen that spoiler coming. Who wants to beat the last two minutes out of my memory?
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>>24708051
That fucking credits roll.
I was prepared for an ending - but not for that. Chunsoft keep playing games with my heart every time ;~;
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>>24708059
Xerneas is weird.
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>>24707916
Nuzleaf is evil
Yveltals a dick
Dark matter is behind everything
Your partner is mew.

There. I saved you two long boobless months. Now get out.
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>>24708059
Completely agreed. The ending didn't have any emotional punch at all - even Gates to Infinity was super fucking sad at the end, but this ending just felt incredibly rushed and shoehorned
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>>24708067
Fuck Rotom man. Immediately after that I got a "Sekret Base" meetup with Zoroark pop up
Fucking cheeky cunts
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>>24708078
Already beat the game. You're just pissing everyone else off.
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>>24708062
Other than Nuzleaf every "twist" is either completely done without real consequence, ends up being an untwist, or it all happens way too quickly to have any actual impact.

Really the whole plot after getting out of the Voidlands is just poor to me.
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>>24708052
I gave your bitch of a mother aids.
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>>24708078
>two months
It takes you two months to beat a game like this? I knew /vp/ was filled with casuals, but this is sad.
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>>24707933
Are the extra dungeons that are unlocked by the cheat codes only unlockable that way? Or can you unlock them normally in-game?
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>>24708094
aussies or yuros dont get it until january
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>>24708050
It's a rehash of Bittercold with worse visual design but better battle design. I don't recall Bittercold quipping at you with bargain bin "embodiment of evil" dialogue wither.
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>>24707477
FUCK YOU.
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>Yfw Voidlands
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so is the only way to recruit more pokemon in this game to do quest? that's it? no more 0,1% kecleons?

also what's exactly the point of alliance attack? it seems to me all your monster simply pull off all their attack in a single turn and that's it
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>>24708104
You have eyes and the ability to not read something.

you only have yourself to blame. If you're so weak willed you can't look away, thats your fault.
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>>24708110
Burst pretty much. The alliance attack is just quick damage all at once
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>>24708110
1. It lets you move your pokemon closer to the enemy without wasting a turn or two moving them
2. It lets you ignore enemy typing, fire does full damage against water types for example
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I'd have liked a chapter after getting turned to stone where you played as Ampharos instead of the whole voidlands thing. Gather pokemon willing to fight the cause and beat down Nuzleaf for the luminous water and free everyone else. The rest of the story could be unchanged since it'd end up at the same conclusion, plus we never really get to see Ampharos in action beyond him being strong enough to make Entei stand down.
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>>24708110
Alliance ignores type disadvantages, focuses damage on a target, and doesn't make it so you need to spend time positioning everyone, so it's basically just a boss buster.
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>>24708108
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>>24708123
We don't really see a lot of the Expedition team do much that causes them to keep their name other from based Buizel
For crying out loud, Mawile's implied heavily on having the ability to solo Entei or any of the Dog trio 1v1
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>>24708111
>be on page 0
>this post catches my eye
>follow the reply chain
>see at a glance that it's a spoiler about SMD
>haven't had a chance to buy it yet, don't want any spoilers
>willed my brain to not process the words my eyes were seeing

Can confirm, >>24708104 is a willpower-less faggot.
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>>24708141
I was really hoping Ampharos would have introduced the mega mechanic in a fight at some point. But alas.
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Was there any justification for there being Mystery Dungeons? In all the previous ones the games claimed that they came to be due to world destabilization (Temporal Tower, Bittercold) but they don't discuss dungeons at all - are they just there?
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>>24708073
No kidding. That explains a lot.

Apologies for being snappy there, but my snideness is aimed less at you and more at the writing here. What the heck happened? The more I try to make sense of everything the more everything starts to fall apart. What happened?

>>24708079
Honestly, I wasn't really feeling that motivated to continue the game aside from trying to get the partner back, but now I don't even feel like trying to do that, either. Might as well just get to Silver rank and then use the game as a Future Trio gameplay machine.
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>>24708150
>Not using four chan filters to filter out SMD threads
>Being in SMD threads at all hen you dont have the game.

Thats like being in a TPP thread and expecting everyone to not talk about Venom shake being medic.
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>>24708154
[headcannon]I always just thought they were magically imbued with the power of randomness.[/headcannon]
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>>24708123
>Get turned to stone
>Thought this would be the end and you'd play a completely different character like Amphy and try to free everyone

>Mfw Voidlands
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>>24708154
In SMD they're accepted as a naturally occurring thing.
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I would've liked in the Epilogue to actually play through the bit with Mew getting sick and taking them to the tree instead of the overall pointless drama of "suddenly" waking up at the tree with no memory of the past few days.

I don't see why they couldn't have just told you how to save the partner and had you do it either.
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>>24708111
>>24708150
I looked away, but that is really a big dick move. Like, that's not even a minor spoiler, that's right near the end.
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>>24707714
Yeah. What area/level are you at? Have you been using a team of motivated pokemon when you get the chance?
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>>24708154
you think thats stupid?

How about the pokemon despite having civilized societies on all the continents just up and attacking you in said dungeons?

Previous games there was agression and tension

[spiler]
Here it could even be the fucking dark matter possesion, but nope. also DARK ILLUSIONS was the stupidest fucking thing id' ever read. Why illusions? Why not just dark amtter possesed pokemon? Nuzleaf and Yvetal were possesed, why not some random steelix?

The whole thing is stupid.
[/spoiler[
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>>24707714
You might be. Shoot your level and your dungeon
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>>24708183
>spelled both tags wrong
Lmfao
I agree. The game's plot isn't as well thought out as previous games.
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>>24708183
>Fucking up the spoiler
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>>24708183
How could you fuck up spoiler tags that badly.
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>>24708059
They accepted Dark Matter was part of them so by killing Dark Matter they killed themselves, so deep.

Seriously though, yeah, shit's dumb, they try to use this as an explanation for this shit but it doesn't really explain anything. It just raises more questions.
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>>24708190
>>24708191
>>24708196
He did it on purpose to spoil others and be absolved from doing so
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>>24708167
I think the point of the purification cave deal was to see if the MC valued his partner enough. Even with the alleged possibility of dark matter returning he was willing to take on the burden of defeating it again if necessary. The willingness to take on that burden showed the desire to have their friend back strongly enough for that wish to come true.
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>>24708079
>>24708059
It did feel rushed, didn't it? But maybe it doesn't help that we're used to the general formula they use in this series either, so it doesn't really pack as much of a punch.

That said, I still cried at the end. Just not as hard as in Sky. The build up, music and everything felt a lot "stronger" in that.
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>>24708183
Ctrl+S is your friend.
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I'm having an existential nightmare here...
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>>24708228
So it's not just me that was having this problem?

Like, I know that you've got your player and partner there, but I mean, I've been seeing multiples of the same Pokemon besides that. Like two Blazikens. What's up with this game?
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I wish I could lose my memory and wake up in another world as a qt grass hedgehog
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>>24708210
That seems like something pretty pointless, because if they didn't value them enough, wouldn't it not work anyways? What repercussions would it be if they didn't care enough? And considering they already came back to fight Dark Matter a second time, why not a third time? Seems a bit silly to me, I dunno.

>>24708232
>>24708228
There are multiples of Pokemon with visual gender differences or multiple forms.
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You've had a great adventure today, you should rest before you play more.
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>everything about sudowoodo's mission
kek
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>>24708158
>>Being in SMD threads at all hen you dont have the game
>what is page 0
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>>24707913
They should've done a montage of flashbacks like in Explorers of Sky. That one hit me pretty hard.
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>>24708238
Maybe making the decision under pressure was the only way to get them to feel strongly enough about it for it to work and activate the plot scarves
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>>24708285
>using the front page
>not the Catalog
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For those of you in post-game, do they expect you to keep using your starters for these super hard dungeons? Do they just want you to use higher level pokemon you recruit regularly, or do they just expect you to grind more?
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>>24708270
Fuck that, it was in Gates too, so annoying.
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>>24708285
Not my problem
>Not using filters
Thats your problem
>B-but I don't want to!
Tough.
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Gonna be honest, the ending is probably the first PMD ending to not make me cry like a bitch. I was too bewildered by the idea of Treecko actually being a reincarnation of Mew to take it seriously, and it wasn't until after lots of hard thinking that I found the ending somewhat sad, but not sad enough to cry about. If anything, the idea that someone who's been through hell with you just suddenly dissapearing is kind of depressing, but not as depressing as watching yourself go back home/getting erased from time and having those around you mourn for your loss.
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>solo story dungeons
>oh fuck
>fire types everywhere
>NOPE

How do I live against such shit?
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