Why doesn't GF make it so that some pokemon are "ultra rare" ? Like 0.1% or less chance of encountering it in the wild, but it can still be encountered. I always thought this would make the game fun, and add some actual "rare" pokemon, that aren't just unobtainables or pokemon from different games.
>>24686627
Because it is a tradition to be a never changing game at this point.
I also wish for this
>one person manages to catches one
>breeds it
>trades the babies to everyone they know
>you only need to catch it yourself if you want to breed it in a specific ball
alternatively
>someone injects it
>clones it 200 times
>wondertrades it and does a giveaway
Because running for 1 hour escaping from battles isn't fun nor a good mechanic.
>>24686675
Don't worry, you just got to make it a really bad Pokemon so that nobody is motivated to bother.
Feebas exists, so do things like Gen 1 Chansey. Or, you know, shinies. They've done this dozens of times, now that I think about it.
But for the sake of things, that doesn't matter at all in a game played by millions of people and when breeding exists.
The original draft of pokemon actually had something like that apparently. As for something like that happening today, good luck. The games get easier and easier every day and breeding undermines any rarity in the end.
Though I have to say I have fond memories of trying to find a Snorunt back in gen III. That's as close as I can remember to any pokemon being legit rare in the wild. Safari game in gen I was balls in regards to getting a Chansey from what I remember. Apparently Heracross was hard to find in gen II, but I never tried to search for one back then.
I've always thought they should do this with 'holon' variants, i.e. regular route mons with a different typing.
>>24686627
Because it's a stupid mechanic and adds nothing to the game. Even more brainless grinding is exactly the last thing we need.
>>24686627
Isn't this the very definition of shiny?
>>24686627
>Chansey
>Chimecho
>All the swarm mons in HGSS
1% is low enough for me anon
>>24686700
>Though I have to say I have fond memories of trying to find a Snorunt back in gen III. That's as close as I can remember to any pokemon being legit rare in the wild.
>10%
>rare
Your whole post is shit. Rarest Pokemon is objectively Cryogonal with 1% every season but Winter and 5% in Winter. And shinies are the definition of this idea.
>>24686719
Chansey with wild held items in Gen 3.
>>24686675
I didn't think about breeding, that does sort of ruin it I guess
>>24686683
is shinyhunting, which is basically the same thing x 1000 fun? how about breeding and hatching a million eggs to get a mon with perfect ivs/nature? people want to do what they want to do, you don't have to do anything.
>>24686722
10% is pretty low when your luck is shit. Also I basically skipped gen V so I didn't know about Cryognal.
Anyway, shinies aren't what the original rare pokemon were supposed to be really. It was more in line with the idea of Mew as a mythical pokemon, but something like a dragon in a cave that takes hours to find apparently.
>>24686722
>>24686707
Shinies are a colour variation of existing pokemon, and it's also a massively lower chance of getting it. This would be an entirely different pokemon, not just a colour alteration. Lots of people don't give half a fuck about shinies, but a lot of people want to have all the Pokemon, or maybe they just really want the rare one.
>RNG
>fun
Pick one.
Anything in any game that's governed by luck is cancer.
>>24686759
Hmm, I don't think you're playing the right game franchise, friend.
>>24686759
>pokemon
>not jam-packed with RNG at every corner
>>24686747
>he hunts for shinies
>>24686627
>Why doesn't GF make it so that some pokemon are "ultra rare" ? Like 0.1% or less chance of encountering it in the wild
Because thats not fun to spend 5 hours in the grass if you want to just use that pokemon?
>>24686722
shit - used cryogonal my first playthrough of Black - had totally forgotten how long i searched for him to avoid penis bear
>>24686627
Pinsir and Heracross in B2/W2
Both are only catchable in Hidden Grotto, the spawn rate are:
Pinsir: 0.25% (B2), 0.75% (W2)
Heracross: 0.75% (B2), 0.25% (W2)
Now Imagine how frustrating is going to be when trying to get one with HA.
>>24686627
I thought another cool idea would "Stray" Pokemon:
>You're in route 2
>Shitmons everywhere
>A single stray Ekans appears
>It's already got low HP
>Catch it and heal it
>You get to use an Ekans even though they normally can't be caught until later
>A particular Nurse Joy specialises in rescuing stray Pokemon
>>24686832
would the strays just be random?
what if, if you're online, you can "receive" stray pokemon that people release like that? that would be wacky huh
>>24686773
What do you mean? It's not fun to have to work for something you want? I don't understand
>>24686873
Then i have test for you: try to find a legit shiny bagon on route 8 in XY. Let us know if it was fun later on
>>24686886
I don't understand what your point is. You want something rare or strong, and you have to do stuff you don't want to do to get it. It's up to you whether to do it or not. Every single pokemon player makes this choice, some do it and some don't. It's not really about the process being fun or not.
>>24686886
there are thousands of people that shiny hunt all day long. i doubt it's fun, but they still do it, because getting the shiny mon is an accomplishment I assume.
>>24686900
>>24686893
Thats the point. Not everyone want to spend hours to find a super rare pokemon so there's no point of doing that. Those who want super rare pokes and dont mind spending that time on searching have shinies.
Dont like it? sucks to be you
>>24686920
Except lots of people don't give a fuck about a different colour of an existing pokemon, but would want to catch all the pokemon to fill the pokedex, or just to have a rare pokemon in general. Not everyone wants to spend time to find a rare pokemon so there's no point in doing it? What are you even talking about?
>>24686920
>anyone that is willing to put in the time to find a 0.1% pokemon would also certainly be willing to put in probably 10 times or more the amount of time to find an already existing pokemon in shiny version
yeah, I bet. flawless logic
I had this idea of alternate shinys. Hear me out cause I think this idea is actually good.
Albino pokemon
These pokes are just black and white as a throwback to the old games, could introduce them in the next Gen1 remake. They have a shiny star but make it a different color.
Or just have more colors, more shinys instead of just one alternate.
>>24686627
no. because they will make it run as soon as you encounter it. ORAS has the right mechanic so far I haven't used the Master Ball yet, all legendary was caught with an Ultra ball or less. That is what they need to do, not your shit.
>>24686870
>hoards of level 1 pokemon
>>24686811
You forgot to mention that there is only a 5% chance that the Hidden Grotto will reset after 256 steps.
http://serebii.net/black2white2/hiddenhollow.shtml
Now, hidden grottos are a nice idea, but like Challenge mode I wonder what the game designers at GF were smoking when they implemented it.
This is a genuinely terrible idea OP. In no way would this be fun or memorable or anything like that. All it would do is make it more tediuos. I agree that not everything should be as common as Zubats, but there is limit to everything. Anything lower than 1% is basically bullshit (talking about pokémon species here, shinies are okay as they don't affect the species distribution).
>>24686941
> all legendary was caught with an Ultra ball or less
What has that got to with anything? The catch rates haven't changed last time I checked.
>>24686722
Isn't Seedot like a fraction of a percent in emerald?
>>24686949
>hoards
>>24686745
so make it unbreedable
>>24686747
Of course its not fun. Its still not a good mechanic. what is your point?
>>24686627
sounds like more boring timesink grinding just to get a mon you want
oh wait I forgot /vp/ is full of unapologetic shiteaters who waste thousands of hours on playing RNG
>>24687157
Use your brain for a second, and then take a guess at what you think his point might have been.
>>24687166
why are you on /vp/? do you just play the storyline repeatedly, or maybe you only watch the anime or something?
There are plenty of Pokémon that only have a 1% chance of being found.
For example, Dragonite in Dragonspiral Tower by fishing in the rippling water spots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feeJRTfSjKo
>>24686745
Just add a mechanic to those Mon that they can't be traded. Go ahead breed and get a perfect one but limit how many you can trade
>>24686832
Thats a cool idea. Kinda like ashes charmander
>>24686627
Fuck you nigga 1% is bad enough.
>>24686699
>Gen 1 Chansey
>>24687128
1% on all three of the routes it appears on, and Nuzleaf also has a 1% chance on Route 114.
