>no running
>that item limit
>Text-based poke-storage system
>"You can't catch Mewtwo! Gotta change boxes first!"
>This little piggy earned 4 EXP
>This little piggy earned 2
>This little piggy earned 1 roast beef
>This little piggy earned 1
>RHYDON used Earthquake
>GENGAR fainted!
Why does this old game play like an old game?
>>24641878
What's your point? Are you saying they should remake Red and Blue and add the shitty mechanics back in to the game?
you never replay old games?
Nintendo is squarely aiming at nostalgiafags with these VC releases. Easy money. You're free to ignore these and emulate them on your computer/phone/DS flash cart/4 function calculator as you please.
>>24641878
Are they all going to be the same price?
Because you'd kinda be getting ripped off if you get Red or Blue instead of Yellow.
>>24641961
How? Yellow doesn't have any additional content over Red and Blue, just a slightly different story. On top of that Yellow has fewer available Pokemon.
>>24641966
Better sprites, able to get all 3 starters, some bug fixes. I know I'm missing something else too.
Did it really have fewer available Pokemon? I don't remember that.
We get it, you're a butthurt anti-genwunner.
I swear this is the only fanbase that complains about old games having old mechanics.
I never see anyone screaming that playing the original Super Mario Bros is a waste of time just because it doesn't have shit like ground pounding. That's not the point of wanting to play Super Mario Bros in the first place. Same case applies here.
>>24641978
You can complete the Pokédex in Gen I with just one copy each of Red and Blue. Sure, you'd need multiple saves for stuff like the starters, the Eeveelutions, and the birds, but it can be done.
With Yellow, though, you'd need both other versions to complete the Pokédex, as some Pokémon are exclusive to Red or Blue.
So, with Red, you can complete the Dex with just Blue, and with Blue, you can complete the Dex with just Red, but for Yellow, you'll need Pokémon can be found only in Red AND only in Blue.
Even /vp/'s waifu don't want these genwunner glitched poor ports.
>>24642022
How the fuck do you get all 3 starters with only 1 cartridge?
>>24642033
The fuck is she on about?
The game is hardly glitching on a game-breaking scale.
>>24642033
For ONCE i agree with her
>>24642107
Bitching to bitch honestly, just like op
>>24642097
I assume you mean only one other cartridge, since I never said you could get all three starters with just one.
Say you're on Red version, and you chose Bulbasaur. You trade over a Squirtle that you got in Blue, but now you need a Charmander, so you delete the file where you got Squirtle and then choose Charmander. Of course, you'll have to play up until you get Eevee to get all the Eeveelutions, too (I mentioned the birds is that post you quoted but I fucked up majorly).
Unless you were talking about Yellow, where you can get all the starters just by progressing through the game.
>>24641886
>>24641910
Of course I do, but not every "Old game" has aged as horribly as Pokemon has and I think it's an insult to make it sound like every old game is as bad as Gen one was.
>>24642013
This is the stupidest thing I've heard.
Not being able to ground pound in mario was intentional, unlike all the bugs and glitches in R/B/Y. Not to mention it doesn't deter from any enjoyment. There's no NEED to ground pound in that game, it wasn't designed with it in mind. Slogging through menus for your PC, waiting for it to save every time you want to change a box, moving at a snails pace, and all around bad design choices do deter from enjoyment, regardless of whether or not it's an "old" game.
Super Mario Bros has aged well for an old game, Pokemon R/B/Y hasn't.
>>24641978
I find Yellow sprites soooo ugly. But Red/Blue sprites are charming.
Also, you can't have Raichu, aside from another exclusive Pokémon from the other games.
>>24642120
Well, she IS a bitch. What did you expect?
>>24642107
It really isn't, I always scoff when I see shit like this on /vp/.
99.9999999999999% of these glitches won't be encountered in normal gameplay. You need to be actively trying to trigger them. It's a non-fucking issue.
>>24642158
>unlike all the bugs and glitches in R/B/Y
Guess what? Super Mario Bros also has bugs and glitches. Who woulda thunk!
>There's no NEED to ground pound in that game, it wasn't designed with it in mind
Just like there's no NEED for running, no NEED for items being limitless, no NEED for a special defense stat
> Slogging through menus for your PC, waiting for it to save every time you want to change a box
"Super Mario Bros is shit because I can't save after every level! Waaaaah!"
Old games have technical limitations, more news at 11
>Pokemon R/B/Y hasn't.
Why? Because of a few obscure bugs that barely affect how the game plays? It's PLENTY playable and enjoyable if you want a nostalgia trip. Just Mario Bros or Mega Man. Oh wait Mega Man must be shit too because WAAAH NO SLIDING OBJECTIVELY BAD DESIGN CHOICE WAAAH
>>24641878
Levitate sucks, I don't know why you want it. I'm not a genwunner at all, but Levitate is super lame.
>>24641878
>Re-Re-Release
>Currently playing LG
>DAT PIKACHU DOE!
>RIVAL ASSHOLE sent out EEVEE!
>ZOMG SO HYPE DOE!!11!!!
Don't forget, Pokemon is for kids
>>24642205
But they went out of their way to take out sliding with Megaman 9 and 10.
>>24642183
>Yellow sprites soooo ugly. But Red/Blue sprites are charming.
niceme.me
>>24642183
I feel the exact opposite.
Yellow > Gold > Silver > Red/Blue > Green, imo
I will say though, Silver has some sprites that blow the Gold sprites out of the water, so I consider them pretty close.
>>24642211
>Desperate marketing
>Out of ideas
>ITSA MARIO TIME!
>KIDS LOOK! THE ORIGINAL PIKA-PIKA!
>LOSERS! BUY A 3DS! SAVE US!
>Meanwhile, kids play minecraft on iphone
>"Pokemon's gay"
>>24642205
No, there is no need for items to be limitless or need for a special defense stat, but that makes the game infinitely less enjoyable. You can't compare it, it just doesn't work. Super Mario Bros still plays the same as you'd expect any Mario game to play, R/B/Y are just broken.
>Old games have technical limitations
Fucking so? There are so many old games that do shit way better then R/B/Y that were from that time, monster collecting RPG's that did better with that sort of stuff then Pokemon did even. Stop using this "It's old so we can excuse shit!" argument. Shit is shit. Just because it's old doesn't mean it should get a free pass.
>>24642205
>It's PLENTY playable and enjoyable if you want a nostalgia trip
Opinion discarded.
>>24642225
>>24642022
>You can complete the Pokédex in Gen I with just one copy each of Red and Blue
>each
Obviously. Isn't that the fucking point? To trade Pokemon?
>>24641878
its not a remake just a port with wireless activity
>tfw no Gen1 wifi battles
>>24642265
I wish that guy was back making more of these.
know what's be cool? press R to toggle between 2d overview old-school styled, or tap R to go back to 3D XY style graphics. remember the Old School Music item in HGSS? shame more people didn't discover it.
>>24642284
this.
And it was called GB Sounds.
>>24642291
i was upset when there wasnt GBA sounds in ORAS
And of course, someone will once again not be invited to the party.
>You can encounter Mewunder the truck.
I would laugh my fucking ass off. Nintendo would actually have a sense of humour.
>>24641878
How different is yellow compared to red and blue? I know you get a pika, and there's jessie and james.
Is it worth buying 2 of them for the difference they give?
>>24641878
>You can't catch Mewtwo! Gotta change boxes first!"
>gotta change boxes
holy fuck I remember this bullshit. pls never again
>>24641878
Do you think these game will have post game stuff like gen 3's Sevii islands?
>>24642299
More colours in graphics. Following Pikachu with better learned moves. You can get all the starters and more wild Pokemon in relative to RBG. Better balance mechanics overhaul; Pokemon learn more TMs, Charizard can FLY.
I don't know why you would buy Red or Blue instead unless they are updated.
what I want to know about is if the Casino will be there or not.
on the DS games the casinos had to be removed because European fuckers made a law that a game couldn't be rated E if it involved gambling, so Pokemon just removed it from all their games so they didn't have to replace it with something special just for EU faggot.
for a country with no nudity or language censorship you sure censor weird shit..
>>24642312
Hang on, are they remakes or rereleases? I just assumed they'd remake them.
Surely they wouldn't be that expensive to buy then..
>>24642325
They're not remakes. Fire Red and Leaf Green were remakes. These are re-releases.
They have already confirmed they're making some adjustments to the original game (like local wireless), but whether they make any other changes are anyones' guess.
>>24642323
>for a country with no nudity or language censorship you sure censor weird shit..
>for a country
What country would that be?
Don't group all Europeans to German bullshit.
>>24642331
Aw damn, I was hoping for the game to be redone in the new 3D engine and all.
It has been 12 years since fire red and leaf green, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to do so.
>>24642186
Sorry anon, never heard of her before. Just assumed she was bitching to bitch.
>>24642323
>Europe is a country
>>24642307
Anon, are you stupid?
>>24641878
I can't wait for kids to try out the Missigno-glitch they read about online and then complain to Nintendo that their save is fucked up.
>making some adjustments to the original game
>They remove missingno
They better not do this. Missingno is an important part of pokemon. It's a cultural heritage glitch.
>>24642265
These are always missing the best one, with Onix looking for his contact lens
>>24642381
Would be nice if they keep it, but contain it in a way it doesn't actually fuck anything up on your save.
>>24642364
why not? how is it they can program in modern wireless in a game that needs wires?
>>24642391
they should just add it as a regular poke. it would have balanced stats but the same movepool sans the 2nd water gun
>>24642258
Where did you get the idea that the 3DS isn't selling well or that Nintendo is in trouble at all?
I'd buy this in a blink if not for the fact I still have my GBC so if I want to go nostalgia, I'll go FULL nostalgia.
Unless of course it's pokebank compatible, then sure I'll buy it. Otherwise, I'll stick to my old school GBC and maybe emulating.
>>24642323
>>24642202
>99.9999999999999% of these glitches won't be encountered in normal gameplay.
You know, besides all those status moves that don't work right.
>>24641978
Fucking idiot not thinking GS will fix bugs before being released in the VC
>>24641978
>Did it really have fewer available Pokemon? I don't remember that.
>weedle
>ekans
>raichu
>meowth
>koffing
>jynx
>electabuzz
>magmar
And the any evolutions of the above.
Last gen: 2 new remakes. This gen: 3 new remakes. Why is everyone raging?
Isn't this only in Europe and Japan?
Who the fuck doesnt still own RBY GSC?
>>24642669
>Remakes
>Literally the same game
>Just with a tweaked wireless trade system
Not remakes. just extra content. a remake would be a full 3D title on 3DS with glorious 3D kanto. but NOOOO lets just repackage our old shit and sell it to the fans that way!
>>24641886
>old games are shoddy
I hate this meme.
>>24642272
You mean how he says Pidgeotto has his back turned and he's a badass that doesnt even need to look at the opponent but when Fearow does it he's suddenly too afraid to fight?
>>24643367
nice memes and strawmans
>>24642260
>No, there is no need for items to be limitless
>infinitely less enjoyable
Man, do you ever stop and think about the shit you post sometimes? It's embarrasing really
RBY's item management problems come from the fact that everything is crammed into a single bag. That means key items, HMs, poké balls etc. GSC's bag split was a great help in that regard
The problem does not come from limited space. That just makes you think about what to carry. And that is not inherently negative.
Why are everyone so fucking pissed by the fact that they're releasing these as VC games? I can't remember any other fanbase reacting this way to any other games coming to VC. If people stopped and considered the idea that they don't have to buy these games, and that they can freely emulate them if they want, all these issues disappear.
Then again, most of you are probably just funposting. If so, please kill yourself.
>>24643382
Batteries might be depleted. Hardware might not work. Can be several reasons you can't play the cart version. If you don't want to buy them, then just emulate them? I mean, nobody actually cares.
Oh, and it might be directed at people who don't own the original games. There's quite a lot of those.
>>24643416
>I don't understand the meaning of either of these buzzwords but I'll use them nonetheless
That pic does summarise a LOT of problems. And although a few of them like recovery move failure are almost certainly not going to be encountered unless you go out of your way to find them, & others like Disable/Mimic don't matter at all, there's still a lot of really broken shit in there.
Seeing as the articles I've seen say the games are going to be 'recreated to be as true to the originals as possible' I'm hoping the fundamental mechanics are going to be different enough to avoid this sorta shit
>>24643424
>Oh, and it might be directed at people who don't own the original games. There's quite a lot of those.
I own the games and the hardware but will be rebuying the games for convenience, novelty, and to trade and battle with my friends and family. There are all sorts of reasons why this is going to print money for Ninty.
>>24643367
I always wondered something: how come no one makes bugfix patches? They do that for SNES FFVI while ports still fix them, and it's bugcount is just as bad.
We have a disassembly of Red for crying out loud, this is child's play.
>>24643367
Most of this shit is just "these things don't work the way they do now, so Gen 1 is a broken mess!"
There's maybe a handful of things on that list that actually matter and/or are actual glitches.
Sorry guys, but RBY were objectively bad games.
Half the moves didn't even work right, Bug, Dragon, and Ghost types had no viable offensive moves at all, and Psychic was immune to Ghost when it should've been weak to it.
You can't defend that bullshit.
>>24643446
>I have not looked at the game code
Go forth and tell us how much of that is caused by it being incomplete.
>>24643460
>you have to look at the game's code to know which of those things actually make a fucking difference to the average player
Does it make you mad that people LOVE Gen 1? I mean, they fucking love RBY more than any other Pokemon games in existence.
>>24643475
Bruh it's my favorite gen. But it's a fucking mess internally. Though a few are simple rule changes, most of the things mentioned are legit fuckups.
>>24643487
>Though a few are simple rule changes, most of the things mentioned are legit fuckups.
And almost none of them matter to the average player. So why does everyone care so much?
>>24643493
Are you telling me that psychic being immune to ghost attacks is only a minor problem?
Or hyper Beam not needing a recharge if you KO an enemy with it?
>>24642205
>Old games have technical limitations, more news at 11
Technical limitations don't prevent the team from doing some very, very basic playtesting and bug fixing though you retard.
>people seriously want to buy Kanto for a 5th time despite it not being heavily updated to today's standards
All right kids, it's your money. I don't care if you guys somehow get Kanto remakes voted inwards to the developers through sales of these games, but just know you will be spending actual money on what is essentially ROMs with changed trading format.
>>24643367
>Censored version
>>24643493
>do not effect the average player
Kid me used Focus Energy first every time and found the toxic seed trick on my Venusaur. And I didn't even know how Pokemon Centers worked because I was a faggot.
Also granted Fire Spin is usually an extremely high level move, but you never got wrapped or put to sleep by the AI? They'll do it again pretty quickly most of the time.
And let's not forget the final battle in the game's movesets.
>>24643446
>Focus Energy is SUPPOSED to cut your critical rate instead of increasing it like it says in the move description!
>Stats are MEANT to roll over to insanely low numbers if you boost them too much! This is totally not because of a programming bug its a FEATURE
Etc, etc.
>>24643500
>>24643521
>And I didn't even know how Pokemon Centers worked because I was a faggot.
I cannot take you faggots seriously enough to give you a proper reply. Here you go.
>>24643526
I did say that a handful of the things on that list WERE actual glitches, Anon.
Learn to fucking read you retarded cunt.
>>24643440
The code is a massive fucking mess, at least the FF6 developers are more organized and their code is actually readable, besides, GB assembly is shit, while SNES assembly is quite fun to mess around with.
>>24643529
How could you not expect a retard after inquiring about the average player, anon?
>>24643534
Gee, you sure are angry.
I only want to get these games just to abuse the fuck out of them and kick my friend's asses who are going ape shit over this thinking god has spoken to them for releasing them.
I'm also going to reevaluate who I consider friends.
Maybe if it was G/S/C i'd be all for it also why the fuck does this have wireless capabilities and the fucking TCG doesn't? I wanna card pop and play with my friends.
RBY are fucking garbage games that didn't "age poorly", they were broken even in the period they were released and are just genuinely bad.
>>24643566
Because the TCG was by competent devs and required little big fixes.
RBY were an utter mess which is probably why they're taking so long to put it out. Anyway if you're going to put a lot of effort into fixing shit you might as well put in the effort to add wireless and enable the main features.
>>24641878
>why can't I run everywhere like an autist?
I bet you run to class too faggot lel
>>24643906
>RBY were an utter mess which is probably why they're taking so long to put it out.
They're releasing it for the 20th anniversary, dumbass.
