>OU
>OU
>BL
>UU
>NU
>PU
How the mighty have fallen.
who gives a crap about competitive pokemon
http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue24/rby_stars
>>24608701
>not using Specs Chlorophill Exeggutor in OU
>Venusaur
BL/UU/BL/UU/OU/OU
>Charizard
UU/BL/BL/NU/NU/OU
>Blastoise
Forever UU. It's its natural habitat.
>>24608770
>Forever UU. It's its natural habitat.
>>24608703
This. I use Mega Gengar on the same team as Leafeon. I give no fucks and I love it.
>>24608816
How do you use them together?
Is Leafy a Baton'er or is he full-on offensive?
>>24608701
>OU all gens and a mega in Ubers
Feels great
>>24608724
>Golem was once high tier
It's amazing how things change.
>>24608763
>wanting to be an easy switchin for heatran, Latios, charizard, etc
>NU
>NU
>UU
>OU
>mega under suspect
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/mega-sableye-and-its-effect-on-the-metagame.3554509/
fear the gremlin.
guess the gen1 mon
>BL
>UU
>OU
>OU
>OU
>OU
>>24608879
Gyarados
>>24608879
gyarados
>>24608878
>fear the gremlin
It's a love child of a kobold and the Hopkinsville Goblin.
>>24608701
Well, Psychic used to be a much better type.You can still use Exeggutor in OU with the right team, desu~
>>24608701
You don't like Sunflora, you don't know pain. Gen 2 was filled with adorable pokémon I love, but I can never use.
>>24608848
>Zard being an safe switch-in
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Exeggutor Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Charizard: 270-318 (90.9 - 107%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
That's Non-mega.
>Yard
252+ SpA Choice Specs Exeggutor Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 210-247 (70.7 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>Zard X
252+ SpA Choice Specs Exeggutor Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 270-318 (90.9 - 107%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Y while taking less damage gets outsped by Chlorophyl and dies next turn if it switches into a Psychic.
X beats it if it doesn't die switching in however.
>>24608914
I know that feel
>competitive pokemon
what a joke
>>24608969
taking 90% switching in isn't really a viable way to counter executor. Executors real problems is that U-turners force it out giving the enemy team free momentum, special walls handle it really well, and being weak to knock off and being dependent on an item is a terrible combination
>>24608975
Here's your reply.
>OU
>OU
>OU
>OU
>OU
Feels great
>>24608724
When the fuck was Tauros ever viable? Gen 1?
>>24608999
You're parroting what the article said, so yes.
>>24608890
>>24608893
Good.
Guess the gen1 mon:
>OU
>OU
>OU
>OU
>OU
>RU
>>24609008
Jolteon
>>24609008
Poor Jolteon.
and to think Raikou vs Jolteon was a thing in Gen 4.
>>24608848
>HP Ground, Shadow Ball, HP Rock
your move big boy :^)
>OU
>NU
>NU
>OU (both regular and mega)
Who am I?
>>24609030
Executor isn't even going to run those moves if it has any hope of functioning in OU, so no.
>>24609031
Gardevoir
>>24609039
who is Executor, Arnold's cousin?
>>24608770
Wasn't Venusaur in uber during gen V?
>>24609030
>yeah, let's all run redundant, superspecific, inefficient moves on our latias, charizard, etc
>>24609054
A quick look at its BW2 smogon analysis says no. It was a huge threat, but no gamebreaking, so why would it be?
Try to guess this one:
>UU
>OU
>BL
>NU
>NU
>PU
>>24609078
Marowak
>>24609064
Chlorophill + growth was very nasty back in gen V thanks to the sun lasting a long while.
>>24609092
DING DING DING
Keep in mind what the name of the bottom tier is in each gen. In 1-2 it's UU, in 3-5 it's NU, and a few weeks ago we got Gen 6 PU for complete trash. So obviously gen 1 UU is not equivalent with gen 6 one.
It's also worth noting that not a single legendary was found in the lowest tier in the first three generations. Most likely because of the general playstyle, which corresponded closely to bulky offense (gen 1) and balance/stall (2 and 3), allowing legends to benefit from their above-average bulk and attack stat despite their atrocious movepools (which most Pokemon had anyway). Gen 4 killed viability of half of them when being as mediocre as they were was no longer sufficient.
>>24609030
But if it has a Choice item, it's locked into one move.
>BL
>BL
>BL
>UU
>UU
>NU
>NU
>NU
>PU
I didn't think it was this bad.
Poor bastard.
>>24609255
Being Staraptor is suffering. Always one step away from the top.
>>24609256
I think a lot of pokemon might fall into this category.
Fearow?
I'm wondering how differently things would be if NFEs weren't allowed.
>>24609276
Fearow was UU in gen 3. I was thinking flareon.
>>24609276
>>24609288
Farfetch'd, actually. Shouldn't be a surprise.
>>24608971
Nigga fuck people telling you otherwise. It's as effective as any other sticky web users. With a focus sash it's good for two turns. I like mine carrying alot of priority, shadow sneak and sucker punch to do as much minimal damage as possible. And if you can get away with another turn, it's swarm mega horn is pretty vicious. Sticky web itself is such a useful means of speed control any team appreciates are bro mons contribution.
>>24609255
What would push Staraptor over the edge?
>>24609480
Extreme Speed. Like every already good physical Normal type that doesn't know it.
>PU
why would anyone play that trash?
>>24608703
/thread
Is FU any good?
>>24609540
This is why FU is now a thing, anon.
>>24609480
Gale Wings.
A mega evolution.
Extremespeed.
A +10 boost to speed.
Of course the +10 boost some mons got in Gen 6 is off the table because retarded Game Freak decided to give the 10 point boost to its special defense for some reason. Special fucking defense. God damn
>>24609560
sure, especially if you're an electabuzz fan
guess the gen 1 mon
>OU
>UU
>BL
>UU
>UU
>OU
>>24609570
>+10 in Sp. Def
B-but, it needed that extra protection from being revenge killed by Vacuum Wave, anon!
>>24608909
Hey man, I guess you must be a bit new but, you're meant to turn your trip code off unless is necessary in the thread, just a heads up from someone whose been here a while longer than you
>>24609540
>Vullaby
nobody uses it
>Pawniard
NU
>Clefairy
Only sometimes and it plays a different role than Clefable usually does in OU anyway.
All this said, of the three fully evolved mons you posted, Lumineon is the only one that sees even a little use and it's generally outclassed by Pelipper as a water type defogger anyway. PU doesn't have that much in the way of NFE mons either outside of the occasional Fraxure, Machoke, or Clefairy.
>>24610001
Slowbro
>>24610044
I guess you must be a bit new to /vp/ if you don't know Buttscab
>>24610060
Pawniard just dropped back to PU, actually.
Pawniard, Gorebyss, Exeggutor, Bouffalant, and Gothitelle all dropped to PU this month.
>>24609560
Do you like monkeys? Then FU is the tier for you.
>OU in every gen
Is my memory faulty? Because I remember Dragonite being BL in gens 3/4.
>>24610113
buttscab spotted
everyone else has him on filter as it should be
>>24610140
>Gothitelle
What the fuck? Is this non-shadow tag goth?
>>24610152
Yes. Plus, Dragonite got some new killer moves and abilities during these last seven years, making him a solid OU guy.
>>24610167
>Is this non-shadow tag goth?
Yes. Shadow Tag is banned in every tier below OU because UU banned it.
If a move/ability is banned from one tier, it's automatically banned from all lower tiers too.
>>24608992
>tfw Blissey fell thanks to Chansey
So is it "Skarmsey" now?
>>24610191
SkarmChan
>>24610167
Yeah, I knew Multiscale pushed him into OU for gens 5 and 6, but I remember him being considered fairly lackluster in 3 and 4.
>>24610209
S-skarm-chan
Is Regigigas PU or FU?
>>24610214
>him
>>24610214
He was still OU in gen 4.
>>24608878
>Sableye suspect
SMOGON LOVES STALL THEY SAID
Guess the gen 3 Pokémon:
>Ubers
>Ubers
>Ubers
>Ubers and thanks to its mega Smogon created a new tier.
>>24612039
Zigzagoon
>>24612039
>>24610166
you actually let him trigger you? I just ignore him like a normal person
>BL
>NU
>NU
>OU
>>24612109
I think that normal people would ignore my tripcode and have a normal discussion with me like any anon but I don't know how many normal people browse /vp/.
Funposters make funposts about me.
Truly misguided people filter me, but that's fine. Probably not too many of those anyways.
>>24613632
What tier do you think Gardevoir would be if it didn't get a mega?
>>24613657
Probably UU. Alomola would be also a nice UU mon...
>>24613657
Fuck off, retard.
>UU
>UU
>UU
>NU
>RU
>PU
It hurts.
>>24613756
What's that, mega Flygon?
>>24608703
>gauging on how often a pokemon is used and why its good enough to be used that much
>lol who gives a shit about that
Stay salty your favourites are bottom of the barrel, bud
>>24608818
I sometime use a Leafy on my mixed teams aswell, and he can do serious damage against cookie-cutter ou teams run by people who don't have much experience with non-ou mons. I initially tried him out just for fun because I needed a knock off user and didn't want to use the common ones. High attack stat, not terrible speed and one of the highest physical defenses in the game.
So a great physical wall that hits hard, many of those annoying bulky water mons go down to one leaf blade, an unexpected aerial ace can destroy fighting types and fellow grass types if they try any spore/sleep powder shenanigans. Synthesis lets him live long and prosper a slong as he's kept away from those special ice beams and fire blasts. Final move slot is sometimes wish or heal bell just help heal other pokes too, sometimes sword's dance or roar, or for further coverage x-scissor.
Basically he's a really versatile mon, he can be an awesome attacker or a great support mon with decent attacking potential. And most importantly he's adorable.
>>24609008
it was already horrible in gens IV and V
>>24613756
neither poliwrath nor sandslash are PU
can't find anything else that fits your criteria
>OU in 5 gens including 6
Guess it
>>24613657
>I think that normal people would ignore my tripcode and have a normal discussion with me like any anon
Except that every post you make is one towards developing a persona visible and recallable to therest of us, because you're shoving your identity in our face in a place built for anonymous discussion. You aren't using your tripcode correctly. The point isn't about just having a rational discussion, it's about the disruption inherent to repeated use of an identity in an anonymous forum. You either know this and are a dedicated faggot, or are severely delusional.
As for your le carefully crafted identity, nobody likes you or wants you here. Your posts are all shitty. You have no good ideas and apparently barely play Pokemon. You're an underage which has clear evidence yet aren't banned for some reason. Just fuck off.
>>24614154
gengar, starmie, etc
>>24614159
They phrased it awkwardly so they probably meant something that's been straight OU since Gen 2 like Skarmory.
Unfortunately, my tripcode apparently gives me a bad identity which makes all my posts shitty and makes people legitimately mad. :(
>>24613964
Thunder Jolteon was actually amazing in the days of infinite rain. Sadly, nowadays people like Raikou more for that additional bulk/power.
>>24614367
Would Alomola do decent in OU?
>>24614367
>Thunder Jolteon was actually amazing in the days of infinite rain.
so was literally every single electric type
>>24614377
yes it would, too bad people think furry shit like vaporeon and milotic are better
What's Pinsir?
>>24614410
Well, let's see.
We've got Rotom and Magnezone which miss out on speed and don't really do the same thing as Jolteon anyways.
Thundurus-T is also pretty slow and prefers boosting sets anyways.
Thundurus-I is actually banned.
Raikou's a decent alternative but it misses outspeeding Alakazam, +1 Gyarados/Dragonite, Starmie, and the rest of the unboosted tier. It also doesn't have an ability.
Stunfisk was amazing and is still amazing.
But I guess Arceus-Electric... no wait, that lacks Volt Switch.
Ah, I forgot what your argument was. I'm probably trippin'.
Started from the bottom, now we here.
Zero to hero, just like that.
>BL
>BL
>UU
>OU
>OU
>UU
>>24614445
UU/UU/UU/NU/NU/OU
I don't know much about Pinsir but I don't think it was ever really that impressive pre-mega but I think it was always fairly decent in the tier it was in.
>>24614496
Could be anything that got a mega, really, Pinsir works for this along with Altaria, Lopunny, Gardevoir... and you could say a few things that got a lot of boosts like Mandibuzz, Bisharp, and Clefable rose a lot too.
>>24614545
Tentacruel?
>>24608770
Yeah thanks to megas.
Regular Charizard is still shit.
>>24614377
>>24614410
Alomomola is used pretty frequently in teams over 1600+ actually, to the point where people believe Vaporeon is the inferior choice. Milotic's OU analysis uneventfully disappeared while Alomomola's was updated two times.
>UU
>UU
>NU
>NU
>NUwith a sarcastic Smogon page calling it OU
>PU
If it was even useable in any of those tiers it wouldn't be so bad, but it doesn't even fit there.
Tier below PU when?
>>24608724
>Snorlax used to be the king of GSC and shape the entire metagame around his existence
>>24608701
Did anyone else read this post thinking OP was trying to spell out Exeggutor's cry?
>>24614878
>Implying base form Charizard isn't OU
Oh you silly Venushitters
>>24616022
It is, but only because of the Megas
As soon as Smogon starts tiering Megas separately from the base forms, Charizard is going back to NU
>>24615088
>what is FU
>>24615088
Liking Farfetch'D is suffering.
>>24615088
the worst thing is, even if it got an evolution, it would still be horrible in little cup
>>24614578
fuck off tripfag
>>24616495
Just filter them.
>NU
>NU
>NU
>Mega in Uber
Truly the achieving the dream.
>>24609157
Remember those days when you fucked up your IVs and zeroed your attack after a Swords Dance?
>>24615088
>Tier below PU when?
What is FU
Chubs decked btw
>>24616058
>>24617616
I thought that was an unofficial tier ("unofficial" compared to Smogon's "official" tiers I mean). I don't see an FU Showdown ladder at least so I assume it's not that popular.
>>24617628
It'll become an official tier like PU did soon. If I had to guess I'd say a little after Gen VII comes out.
>>24618746
But by the time that happens there will be too many Pokémon better than Farfetch'd that we'll need a tier below FU!
>UU
>UU
>NU
>NU
>RU
>NU
Guess who I am
>>24616604
Its fucking horrible in ubers. Plus it got their by extremely lazy means. Huge power makes everything good.
>>24616033
>As soon as Smogon starts tiering Megas separately from the base forms
So never?
>>24619506
They already said they're doing this as soon as Z comes out.
>>24619155
do you know what little cup is? it's 1st stage only. that includes stuff like rattata and pichu, but not pikachu.
if farfetch'd were to have an evolution it would become eligible to be used in little cup. the sad thing is, even there it would suck balls, since even doduo does it's job better. still defiant, stick and leaf blade give it somewhat of a niche i suppose.
>>24619518
If it got an evolution I would place my hopes on its evolution being useable and then use that. Considering GF's treatment of the duck though it's far-fetched to think that'll ever happen.
>>24619536
>far-fetched
