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Balancing gen 7:
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Stats:
>all fully evolved pokemon gets at least 500 BST
>all megas have 600 BST
>all fully evolved pokemon (including legends) have a maximum of 560 BST

Abilities:
>Parental Bond reduced to 25% extra damage
> -iate damage boost removed
>Huge/Pure Power reduced to 50%
>Prankster only gives priority to STAB status moves
>Protean reduces damage dealt by 20%
>flying type moves reduced by 30% when paired with Gale Wings

Moves:
>when transfered, all moves not learned by hatching or leveling up are removed

Types:
>grass resists fairy
>ice resists water
>fire no longer resists fairy
>fairy weak to grass
>fairy no longer resists bug
>steel resists dark and ghost

Would this solve all the problems with competitive, /vp/? Is every single "cancer" covered by this?
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Yep, it's pretty perfect!
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Limiting BST is too restrictive. M-Sableye is one of the best Pokemon yet it doesn't even have a 500 BST.
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>>24607242
> -iate damage boost removed
Then it would almost be useless, I would say just give it a small boost like 10%.
>ice resists water
Make it resist dragon and flying instead.
>fairy weak to grass
Fairy and grass are very similar in style it should stay neutral.
>fire no longer resists fairy
Fire resists fairy magic, it's only fair to have an additional resistance as fire type. Fairy is already good.
>steel resists dark and ghost
Keep it as it is, steel gained super effectiveness against fairy and those resistances didn't make sense. Besides, steel is already reliable with the many resistances that it has.

The first thing that needs to happen is a base stats rebalancing so there will be less need for overpowered/gimmick abilities to make low stats Pokemon viable. This will have the biggest impact on the gameplay before changing anything else.
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>>24607242

>steel resists dark and ghost
>actually buffing steel

Your kidding right? Also bug needs a buff still.
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>>24607426
Why not? Even in gen 6 steel is still the second worst type offensively with low BP moves.

>>24607258
I agree actually. Not sure how to make lower megas useful though.
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>>24607546
>steel is bad offensively
>let's make it even more overpowered defensively!
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>>24607242
>Moves:
>>when transfered, all moves not learned by hatching or leveling up are removed

Why would a Pokemon just forget something because someone else owns it now?
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No to equalizing stats. Why should something like Raticate or Butterfree, basically the copper swords of Pokemon (it IS an RPG, remember!) be marginally better than something like Tyranitar which is more like a high powered weapon that takes a while to get?
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>>24607242
Stats:
>all fully evolved pokemon gets at least 500 BST
>all megas have 600 BST
>all fully evolved pokemon (including legends) have a maximum of 560 BST

Great, now Arceus get's 2HKO'd by Wigglytuff.
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>>24607599
>because someone else owns it now
What you mean by this?

It's just a way to phase out old tutor/event moves without locking the pokemon themselves. A pentagon rule that doesn't forces you to breed everything again.

>>24607573
Still not seeing the problem, they were fine gens 2 to 5.

>>24607626
Obviously uber legends wouldn't be included, no one wants Groudon in VGC.
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I've always thought that all pokemon should have its own signature move and that this move will be boosted in power when used by that pokemon. The boost is usually just more power, but can be something else such as priority or status. Thoughts on this?
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>>24607242
>Ice resists water
Bullshit
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>>24607616
Not OP, but they could do it similarly to what they did in gen 6 with talonflame. Give it a shit ability throughout the game, with the really good ability only being available in the postgame.
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>Scald now has 40BP
>Conversely it can stay 80 but have its burn chance reduced to 10%
>Knock Off is now 50BP, no longer deals bonus damage
>Incinerate now works similarly to knock off
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>>24607642
>Still not seeing the problem, they were fine gens 2 to 5.
>he doesn't know
Ferrothorn and Skarmbliss.
Hell Skarmory is still strong on its own
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>>24607258
same with mawile
though the nerf to huge power would mean it deserves more stats
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>>24607303
I agree with your post100%
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>>24608330
Will you spam this on every thread?
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>>24607242
It's fucking shit.
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>>24607242
>nerf everything
fuck you
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I wouldn't say things need nerfing as much as we need different playstyles, or styles that can trump others or make you think more critically rather than just sticking to a blueprint.

add new moves that can shit on stall somehow, cause right now the options against stall at the moment is either Taunt or just muscle through it with wallbreakers.

and even Taunt is not as viable anymore cause Mega Sableye laughs that off.

basically, provide a method for each playstyle to overcome others, instead of Balance and Bulky Offensive teams being absolutely walled by Stall and Hyper Offensive beating stall but losing to Balance and Bulky Offense.

as to how that would happen or if GF even cares, lol I dunno.
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>>24607242
>all fully evolved pokemon gets at least 500 BST
Sure, why not.
>all megas have 600 BST
No.
>all fully evolved pokemon (including legends) have a maximum of 560 BST
No yet again. This would make most mons clones of each other. We need differences to set them apart, even if some of them are just in the BST. Legendaries are also made to be overpowered, so it'd make no sense if the literal God of the universe would be able to go toe-to-toe with a fucking Farfetch'd.

>Parental Bond reduced to 25% extra damage
Agreed
> -iate damage boost removed
Just reduce it.
>Huge/Pure Power reduced to 50%
There is no need for this. No mon with huge power at the moment is overpowered. The only one that comes close to that is mega Mawile, who does fuck all in ubers and should be OU ever since ORAS came out.
>Prankster only gives priority to STAB status moves
No fucking reason for this again, Prankster isn't overpowered.
>Protean reduces damage dealt by 20%
No reason for this, as Greninja isn't overpowered and this would make Kecleon even more useless.
>flying type moves reduced by 30% when paired with Gale Wings
No, Talonflame isn't overpowered. Gale Wings is literally the only thing that makes it good, let it have something, otherwise it'd be an NU mon.
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>>24607242
The type chart is the most broken part imo; Bug, Grass and Psychic specifically. If I could change one thing I'd make Steel take neutral damage from Psychic.
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>>24607642
Transferring the Pokemon is the exact same thing as giving them to someone else in a different region, why would a Pokemon forget a move just because it was traded?
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>>24607242

>Not buffing Poison?
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>>24609744
>Steel take neutral damage from Psychic.
This would nerf Lucario and, as we all know, that would be unacceptable.
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>>24609523
Never nerfing anything is how we got with the dragon problem, or all the bans by Smogon in gen 6 until it was playable and actually fun. Keeping the power creep in check is necessary for a healthy metagame.
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>>24609754
Why it matters? You're thinking too much with it. If you really want to have a reason, traveling so far forward time and space made them forget some things, done.
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>>24607660
No
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>>24610414
Such well written and thoughtful post. Thanks for the insight.
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